[governance] CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation

Sun Mar 17 07:43:00 EDT 2013

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

> Parminder, your response to Constance was not written as one of an
> individual.
>
> Adam
>
> [ST>]  It is understood that when subscribers communicate and send posts
or emails, they do so in their own capacity unless they otherwise mention
as Constance did in her email to Anriette which was copied to the
governance.

>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:23 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday 17 March 2013 04:31 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
> >>
> >> Parminder, please don't speak for civil society or for members of the
> >> caucus.
> >>
> >> Adam
> >
> >
> > Adam, please dont jump to your conclusions, I have no authority to speak
> for
> > IGC, or civil society, and I know it very well. I have enough experience
> in
> > this area to know this, and conduct myself properly. What makes you
> think i
> > am trying to do what you are alleging I am. It is great that a civil
> society
> > member cannot conduct a simple dialogue with a representative of ISOC
> > withour your kind of over zealous protectiveness interfering, and helping
> > make a spectacle of all of us. I know that from what will follow this
> > particular exchange you may have effectively killed the dialogue I was
> > trying to make. Congrats.... parminder
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 7:19 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Constance,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your response. There a few other points i'd like to raise
> >>> but
> >>> for the present, quickly, just the following two.
> >>>
> >>> Good that you clearly state the criteria you used to identify who would
> >>> be
> >>> considered as members of the 'technical and academic community' for the
> >>> purpose of selection to the WG on Enhanced Cooperation in the
> following:
> >>>
> >>> "......community of organizations and individuals who are involved in
> the
> >>> day-to-day operational management of the Internet and who work within
> >>> this
> >>> community." (Constance)
> >>>
> >>> One of the main purposes of our proposed letter to you/ISOC was to
> obtain
> >>> this definition used by you. So thanks again. BTW, this definition seem
> >>> not
> >>> to match the understanding of most people  in our current discussion on
> >>> the
> >>> IGC, but on that later.
> >>>
> >>> Secondly, since you say; "...it is unclear how attacks between
> different
> >>> stakeholder groups can support multistakeholderism." (Constance)
> >>>
> >>> Would you help us to identify what in the proposed draft of the letter,
> >>> or
> >>> even in the recent discussion on the list, do you consider as 'attack
> on
> >>> a
> >>> stakeholder group'.
> >>>
> >>> Would you, for instance, consider a letter seeking clarity from a UN
> body
> >>> on
> >>> some process issues, or even raising concerns about some process
> issues,
> >>> as
> >>> an attack on that UN body, or on governments generally? IGC has often
> >>> done
> >>> such things.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards, parminder
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday 17 March 2013 02:48 PM, Constance Bommelaer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Anriette,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am writing to you in your capacity of focal point for the Civil
> >>>> Society
> >>>> for the nomination process of the CSTD working group on Enhanced
> >>>> Cooperation. At the outset, I would like to reaffirm the importance we
> >>>> attach to the relationships we have been able to build across various
> >>>> stakeholders groups throughout the years. For this reason I am also
> >>>> sending
> >>>> a copy to Ayesha and to the Civil Society group.
> >>>>
> >>>> The process of setting up the CSTD working Group on Enhanced
> Cooperation
> >>>> has taken an unfortunate twist. We noticed that there is a move
> underway
> >>>> to
> >>>> question the representation of the technical and academic community in
> >>>> the
> >>>> Working Group and we presume that this was triggered by the
> discussions
> >>>> surrounding the non-selection of Michael Gurstein.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was asked to coordinate the selection of the representatives of our
> >>>> stakeholder group and I did so in a thorough process within our
> >>>> community.
> >>>> The names put forward were subject to considerable discussion as well
> as
> >>>> oral dialogue with many individuals from Civil Society and the
> Business
> >>>> community (including their focal points). The criteria used were
> shared
> >>>> with
> >>>> all interested individuals as well as with the UN.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mr Gurstein’s application was assessed in light of the same criteria
> and
> >>>> his name was not retained. We fail to understand why he appeals to the
> >>>> Chairman of the CSTD and tries to question our procedures. Up until
> >>>> February
> >>>> 2013, he considered himself being part of Civil Society and spoke as
> one
> >>>> of
> >>>> its leaders and representatives at the recent WSIS+10 meeting. I also
> >>>> understand that he initially expressed an interest to be endorsed by
> the
> >>>> Civil Society to participate to the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced
> >>>> Cooperation, which also leads to confusion. For purpose of
> transparency,
> >>>> I
> >>>> mentioned his interest to the Chair of the CSTD who nominates the
> >>>> representatives of the various stakeholder groups. I do believe,
> >>>> however,
> >>>> that unsuccessful applicants in one process should not engage in
> >>>> “constituency shopping” and question the entire process.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Tunis Agenda identified the technical and academic community as a
> >>>> separate sub-group. De UN de facto recognized it as a separate group
> and
> >>>> always asked ISOC to coordinate the selection process. It is
> understood
> >>>> that
> >>>> the definition contained in the Tunis Agenda can be discussed; new
> >>>> groups
> >>>> could even appear tomorrow. However, the context was clear and it
> >>>> referred
> >>>> to the community of organizations and individuals who are involved in
> >>>> the
> >>>> day-to-day operational management of the Internet and who work within
> >>>> this
> >>>> community.  This category manifested itself in the WGIG process. Other
> >>>> academics had been involved in WSIS right from the start but
> identified
> >>>> themselves with Civil Society. This distinction has been used by the
> UN
> >>>> since 2005.
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile, it is unclear how attacks between different stakeholder
> >>>> groups
> >>>> can support multistakeholderism. In my view, advocating for the
> >>>> technical
> >>>> and academic community to be merged with Civil Society or even for its
> >>>> representatives to be appointed by governments contradicts the
> >>>> multistakeholder principle that we are all attached to. Furthermore, I
> >>>> believe no group should attempt to impose control upon another, nor
> >>>> should
> >>>> any group be beholden to another.  This would be the end of
> >>>> multistakeholderism.
> >>>>
> >>>> Multistakeholder cooperation is still in its beginning. It is a
> delicate
> >>>> plant but each stakeholder group can contribute to nurturing it with
> its
> >>>> own
> >>>> culture, and processes. The technical community’s work is based on
> open
> >>>> and
> >>>> inclusive development processes. In this spirit, the Internet Society
> >>>> has
> >>>> always demonstrated its commitment to open and inclusive policy
> >>>> dialogues.
> >>>> We systematically advocate for the inclusion of Civil Society in
> arenas
> >>>> where critical discussions are being held (e.g. ITU, OECD, etc). We
> also
> >>>> support the participation of individuals from all stakeholder groups
> in
> >>>> Internet governance discussions (IGF, IETF, etc.).
> >>>>
> >>>> Cooperation and reciprocal encouragements among all stakeholder groups
> >>>> are
> >>>> key to advance the cause of multistakeholderism. I look forward to
> >>>> working
> >>>> with all of you in this spirit.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you and best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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