[governance] who owns the new gTLDs?

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Is there actual market demand at all? The vast majority are just 
corporations doing protective registration of their brand names and 
some speculation.

I have not seen very many that are community driven though those too exist.

In which case, my comparison of domaining to the tulip bubble holds 
good here. http://www.circleid.com/posts/domain_name_portfolios_worth/

--srs (htc one x)



On 5 March 2013 7:03:58 AM Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu> wrote:
> Re:
>
> > And whatever happened to the differential developing country gTLD
> > application rates that I heard about at one point (and seems to be
> > mentioned in the minutes of one ICANN meeting), but seems to have
> > disappeared again?
>
> JAS?  I don't think many folks used it, but Avri may know more, since
> she was on the JAS WG I think.
>
> My comment: ICANN did prep the process...but as McTim noted, very few 
> applications came in. As noted Avri may have more specifics.
>
> Frankly, my take is that even with the discounts, the amount of 
> time/effort to go through the process, and then promise to keep a gTLD 
> up more or less indefinitely, for an economic value proposition of high 
> uncertainty; was something that very few developing country ngo-type 
> groups were prepared to gamble their limited resources on.    Since 
> they don't have cash piles parked in offshore accounts, generally 
> speaking, that was probably a wise move.
>
> Although I expect a few more may choose to participate next time 
> around, if the value proposition is clearer, based on how the present 
> round works out.
>
> Lee
> ________________________________________
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> [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of McTim 
> [dogwallah at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 8:00 PM
> To: Pranesh Prakash
> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] who owns the new gTLDs?
>
> Hi Pranesh,
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Pranesh Prakash <pranesh at cis-india.org> wrote:
> > McTim [2013-03-05 02:36]:
> >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Diego Rafael Canabarro
> >> <diegocanabarro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> "The application process is open and we do have developing country
> >>> applications to some extent."
> >>>
> >>> That, per se, cannot be taken as a measure of fairness and equality in the
> >>> process, can it? Especially in the context of path dependent effects that
> >>> favor incumbents (North American) ICT firms. No surprise at all, but it
> >>> doesn't mean that these self-reinforcing trends shall not be object of
> >>> policy-making, does it?
> >>
> >> I would be happy to hear your suggestions on realistic policy
> >> proposals that would have changed these outcomes.
> >
> > I would be happy to hear your suggestions on this very same issue too,
>
>
> I don't think it is possible to have changed the outcome (marginally
> changed, yes, significantly changed, probably not).
>
> > McTim.  Or is there nothing whatsoever objectionable about North
> > American companies dominating the gTLD space?  C'est la vie (et le
> > fonctionnement du marché libre)?
>
>
> Are we talking back end providers (the 74% figure cited in CA's mail)
> or dominance by companies applying for newTLDs?
>
> As for backend providers, It's worth noting.  I'm not sure that I
> object to it.  There is nothing artificial in it I think.  More to the
> point, I don't think that ICANN could (or should try) to do anything
> about it.
>
> You might as well ask if I find it "objectionable" that France
> dominates in Brie production.
>
> For front-end registries, I think the answer is similar in that lots
> of domainers are Americans, and they have the "cyber real-estate"
> mentality, and are more willing to speculate with their money on new
> TLDs.
>
>
> > And whatever happened to the differential developing country gTLD
> > application rates that I heard about at one point (and seems to be
> > mentioned in the minutes of one ICANN meeting), but seems to have
> > disappeared again?
>
> JAS?  I don't think many folks used it, but Avri may know more, since
> she was on the JAS WG I think.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>
>



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