[governance] Asking the U.S. government to allow Google to publish more national security request data

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

You want them to be evil?  But why?  And how evil would you prefer that they be?

--srs (iPad)

On 12-Jun-2013, at 15:14, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:

> Maybe it's time google changed it's "don't be evil" mantra
> 
> On 12/06/2013, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> Google routinely publishes requests for takedown / information from various
>> governments around the world, including a large number of requests from the
>> USG .. the only time they don't is when any government uses a process that
>> forbids such disclosure.
>> 
>> In this case they are bound by law not to disclose these requests, so they
>> don't.  And they have published a copy of the letter they sent requesting
>> permission - which they arent likely to get - to post these requests.
>> 
>> So yes this is an exercise in PR - it also needs to be seen in perspective
>> with Google's larger pattern of full disclosure in such cases.
>> 
>> --srs (iPad)
>> 
>> On 12-Jun-2013, at 14:25, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday 11 June 2013 11:29 PM, McTim wrote:
>>>> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/06/asking-us-government-to-allow-google-to.html
>>> 
>>> Good to write this letter. And we understand, Google has not faced
>>> anything close to the trust deficit with non US customers that if faces
>>> today with PRISM related disclosures. I already see people around me,
>>> especially NGOS etc, that they would want to move out of gmail. google doc
>>> etc.... So, this letter to me is pure PR, and damage control...
>>> 
>>> I would like to see if they made any similar request to US gov before
>>> Edward Snowden happened. US government can of course neither prohibit them
>>> from writing such requests, nor sharing them publicly -- in any case, they
>>> can certainly be shared now. Any such request made before the issue went
>>> public despite google and the US gov is what would really count.
>>> 
>>> parminder
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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