[governance] Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being Spied Upon, Pew Study Finds

[michael gurstein]

Yes, they do. (My comment was not meant to be negative towards Pew...

M

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Pew Study Finds

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:52 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for that, it looks a quite sophisticated attempt to get around 
> the cell issue I was pointing to... I`ll be interested to see some 
> analyses of how well this approach is able to handle it and if it 
> introduces (and is able to control for) other related sources of 
> potential bias (demographics, income, geography etc.).
>

I don't know. But I believe Pew has a good reputation, see
<http://www.pewinternet.org/>

Adam


> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: apeake at gmail.com [mailto:apeake at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Adam 
> Peake
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:38 PM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being Spied 
> Upon, Pew Study Finds
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:31 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> The fundamental problem with these surveys now is that a very large 
>> and rapidly growing segment of the population are not reachable as 
>> these surveys are drawn from the numbers in telephone books.  So 
>> those with mobiles (and the demographics that they represent) are 
>> very very significantly underrepresented in these samples.
>
>
> Sorry, I should have included a little more in the quote I sent, 
> actually finished the sentence.  The survey was on landlines and mobile.
>
> "The analysis in this report is based on telephone interviews 
> conducted June 6-9, 2013, among a national sample of 1,004 adults 18 
> years of age or older living in the continental United States (501 
> respondents were interviewed on a landline telephone, and 503 were 
> interviewed on a cell phone, including
> 247 who had no landline telephone)."
>
> It's still at
> <http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-track
> ing-as
> -acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/2/>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>>  Various survey firms are desperately trying to figure out how to 
>> correct for that but a couple of very significant mismatches between 
>> survey results and electoral results in Canada in the last year have 
>> really thrown into question the validity of these kinds of studies.
>>
>> (The other issue is of course, the question that was asked... Pew 
>> tends to be quite straightforward in thieir surveys (questions) but a 
>> quick glance at this one indicated that it was a forced choice 
>> between security and privacy which, depending on other factors may 
>> not give a very useful insight into what is more generally a 
>> spectrum/series of tradeoffs between more/less security vs. more/less 
>> privacy.)
>>
>> M
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
>> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Adam 
>> Peake
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:30 AM
>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being 
>> Spied Upon, Pew Study Finds
>>
>> http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-track
>> i
>> ng-as-
>> acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/2/
>>
>> ABOUT THE SURVEY
>> The analysis in this report is based on telephone interviews 
>> conducted June 6-9, 2013, among a national sample of 1,004 adults 18 
>> years of age or older living in the continental United States ... etc 
>> etc
>>
>>
>> Pew's considered good.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Simon Ontoyin wrote:
>>
>>> A contagiously hilarious study. 100 people?
>>>
>>>
>
> SNIP
>
>



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