[governance] FW: [IP] NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data, secrAnet files reveal | World news | guardian.co.uk

[McTim]

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> That's just silly... and you know it as well or better than anyone...


If being an idealist is silly, then I will proudly wear that badge

>
> We already know by admission what is going on and what has been going on for
> at least 7 years (according to Mr. Clapper of the NSA)...


excellent timeline by EFF here: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline


>
> We also know that anyone/country which can/will do its surveillance and to
> the max, that's the nature of that beast..

so we shouldn't oppose it?


-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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