[governance] NSA penetrates Brazilian telecom

Sun Jul 7 12:21:24 EDT 2013

Vivo, Claro, TIM and Oi have agreements with Verizon. : )

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<suresh at hserus.net>wrote:

> It depends on which carrier you use in brazil, who they have roaming
> agreements with and which of the carriers they have roaming agreements with
> has a stronger signal in the area you happen to be in. Could well be AT&T,
> t mobile or whatever else
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> On 07-Jul-2013, at 18:55, Diego Rafael Canabarro <diegocanabarro at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> When you use a mobile line in Brazil and come to the US, your roaming
> displays VERIZON.
> On Jul 7, 2013 8:09 AM, "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>
>>  From the below news item;
>>
>>
>> "As those two articles detail, all of this bulk, indiscriminate
>> surveillance aimed at populations of friendly foreign nations is part of
>> the NSA's "FAIRVIEW" program. Under that program, the *NSA partners with
>> a large US telecommunications company, the identity of which is currently
>> unknown, and that US company then partners with telecoms in the foreign
>> countries (emphasis added). *Those partnerships allow the US company
>> access to those countries' telecommunications systems, and that access is
>> then exploited to direct traffic to the NSA's repositories."
>>
>> There are basically two large US telecoms AT&T and Verizon... Any such
>> public private partnership for global snooping is very worrisome.
>>
>> parminder
>>
>>
>>  On Sunday 07 July 2013 10:10 AM, michael gurstein wrote:
>>
>>  The NSA's mass and indiscriminate spying on Brazilians****
>>
>> As it does in many non-adversarial countries, the surveillance agency is
>> bulk collecting the communications of millions of citizens of Brazil****
>> ****
>>
>> The National Security Administration headquarters in Fort Meade,
>> Maryland. Whistleblower Edward Snowden worked as a data miner for the NSA
>> in Hawaii. Photograph: Jim Lo Scalzo/EPA****
>>
>> I've written an article on NSA surveillance for the front page of the
>> Sunday edition of O Globo<http://oglobo.globo.com/mundo/eua-espionaram-milhoes-de-mails-ligacoes-de-brasileiros-8940934>,
>> the large Brazilian newspaper based in Rio de Janeiro. The article is
>> headlined (translated) "US spied on millions of emails and calls of
>> Brazilians", and I co-wrote it with Globo reporters Roberto Kaz and Jose
>> Casado. The rough translation of the article into English is here<http://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Foglobo.globo.com%2Fmundo%2Feua-espionaram-milhoes-de-mails-ligacoes-de-brasileiros-8940934&act=url>.
>> The main page of Globo's website lists related NSA<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/nsa>stories:
>> here <http://oglobo.globo.com/>.****
>>
>> As the headline suggests, the crux of the main article details how the
>> NSA has, for years, systematically tapped into the Brazilian
>> telecommunication network and indiscriminately intercepted, collected and
>> stored the email and telephone records of millions of Brazilians. The story
>> follows an article in Der Spiegel last week<http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/nsa-spies-on-500-million-german-data-connections-a-908648.html>,
>> written by Laura Poitras and reporters from that paper, detailing the NSA's
>> mass and indiscriminate collection of the electronic communications of
>> millions of Germans. There are many more populations of non-adversarial
>> countries which have been subjected to the same type of mass surveillance
>> net by the NSA: indeed, the list of those which haven't been are shorter
>> than those which have. The claim that any other nation is engaging in
>> anything remotely approaching indiscriminate worldwide surveillance of this
>> sort is baseless.****
>>
>> As those two articles detail, all of this bulk, indiscriminate
>> surveillance aimed at populations of friendly foreign nations is part of
>> the NSA's "FAIRVIEW" program. Under that program, the NSA partners with a
>> large US telecommunications company, the identity of which is currently
>> unknown, and that US company then partners with telecoms in the foreign
>> countries. Those partnerships allow the US company access to those
>> countries' telecommunications systems, and that access is then exploited to
>> direct traffic to the NSA's repositories. Both articles are based on top
>> secret documents provided by Edward Snowden; O Globo published several of
>> them.****
>>
>> The vast majority of the GuardianUS's revelations thus far have concerned
>> NSA domestic spying: the bulk collection of telephone records<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order>,
>> the PRISM program<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data>,
>> Obama's presidential directive<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/obama-china-targets-cyber-overseas>that authorizes domestic use of cyber-operations, the Boundless
>> Informant data<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-informant-global-datamining>detailing billions of records collected from US systems, the serial
>> falsehoods publicly voiced<http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/19/fisa-court-oversight-process-secrecy>by top Obama officials about the NSA's surveillance schemes, and most
>> recently, the bulk collection of email and internet metadata<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/27/nsa-data-mining-authorised-obama>records for Americans. Future stories in the GuardianUS will largely
>> continue to focus on the NSA's domestic spying.****
>>
>> But contrary to what some want to suggest, the privacy rights of
>> Americans aren't the only ones that matter. That the US government - in
>> complete secrecy - is constructing a ubiquitous spying apparatus aimed not
>> only at its own citizens, but *all of the world's citizens*, has
>> profound consequences. It erodes, if not eliminates, the ability to use the
>> internet with any remnant of privacy or personal security. It vests the US
>> government with boundless power over those to whom it has no
>> accountability. It permits allies of the US - including aggressively
>> oppressive ones - to benefit from indiscriminate spying on their citizens'
>> communications. It radically alters the balance of power between the US and
>> ordinary citizens of the world. And it sends an unmistakable signal to the
>> world that while the US *very minimally *values the privacy rights of
>> Americans, it assigns zero value to the privacy of everyone else on the
>> planet.****
>>
>> This development - the construction of a worldwide, ubiquitous electronic
>> surveillance apparatus - is self-evidently newsworthy, extreme, and
>> dangerous. It deserves transparency. People around the world have no idea
>> that all of their telephonic and internet communications are being
>> collected, stored and analyzed by a distant government. But that's exactly
>> what is happening, in secrecy and with virtually no accountability. And it
>> is inexorably growing, all in the dark. At the very least, it merits public
>> understanding and debate. That is now possible thanks solely to these
>> disclosures.****
>> The Guardian's reporting****
>>
>> One brief note on the Guardian is merited here: I've been continuously
>> amazed by how intrepid, fearless and committed the Guardian's editors have
>> been in reporting these NSA stories as effectively and aggressively as
>> possible. They have never flinched in reporting these stories, have spared
>> no expense in pursuing them, have refused to allow vague and baseless
>> government assertions to suppress any of the newsworthy revelations, have
>> devoted extraordinary resources to ensure accuracy and potency, and have
>> generally been animated by exactly the kind of adversarial journalistic
>> ethos that has been all too lacking over the last decade or so (see this
>> Atlantic article<http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/07/the-british-are-coming-and-theyve-brought-newspapers/277486/>from yesterday highlighting the role played by the Guardian US's
>> editor-in-chief, Janine Gibson).****
>>
>> I don't need to say any of this, but do so only because it's so true and
>> impressive: they deserve a lot of credit for the impact these stories have
>> had. To underscore that: because we're currently working on so many
>> articles involving NSA domestic spying, it would have been weeks, at least,
>> before we would have been able to publish this story about indiscriminate
>> NSA surveillance of Brazilians. Rather than sit on such a newsworthy story
>> - especially at a time when Latin America, for several<http://news.yahoo.com/bolivia-plane-incident-infuriates-latin-america-211051576.html>
>> reasons<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/06/venezuela-nicaragua-offer-asylum-edward-snowden>,
>> is so focused on these revelations - they were enthused about my partnering
>> with O Globo, where it could produce the most impact. In other words, they
>> sacrificed short-term competitive advantage for the sake of the story by
>> encouraging me to write this story with O Globo. I don't think many media
>> outlets would have made that choice, but that's the kind of journalistic
>> virtue that has driven the paper's editors from the start of this story.
>> ****
>>
>> This has been a Guardian story from the start and will continue to be.
>> Snowden came to us before coming to any other media outlet, and I'll
>> continue to write virtually all NSA stories right in this very space. But
>> the O Globo story will resonate greatly in Brazil and more broadly in Latin
>> America, where most people had no idea that their electronic communications
>> were being collected in bulk by this highly secretive US agency. For more
>> on how the Guardian's editors have overseen the reporting of the NSA
>> stories, see this informative interview on the Charlie Rose Show from last
>> week with Gibson and Guardian editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger: ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>>
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