[governance] RFC 6852: Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards--Some Comments
michael gurstein
gurstein at gmail.com
Sat Jan 26 18:22:14 EST 2013
Lee,
Normally I would agree with position but this one is such a shoddy and
ideologically situated document that I, quite honestly, can't see how anyone
in civil society can with any conscience sign on to this in its current
form.
If we are not in support of the "public interest" and in support of the
broadest base of inclusion as opposed ,for example, to "competitive"
interests and documents that don't reference either inclusion or support for
those who are currently excluded, then what could we conceivably stand for
as civil society.
M
From: Lee W McKnight [mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:12 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein; 'Avri Doria'
Cc: housley at vigilsec.com; s.mills at ieee.org; jeff at w3.org;
bernard_aboba at hotmail.com; st.amour at isoc.org; ylu22 at syr.edu
Subject: RE: [governance] RFC 6852: Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for
Standards--Some Comments
Hey Michael,
Points well taken, as are Avri's comments.
There is also a Third Way ; )
For IGC's position, I might suggest we support RFC 6852 since it is better
than its absence; perhaps taking time to follow whatever procedure to try to
formally include some of Michael's language.
An offer of a quote from a standards-knowledgable co-coordinator like
Norbert on behalf of IGC might be well-received, eve if it includes some
form of 'but...' along the lines of Michael's additions.
Finally, fyi WiGiT v0.2 open spec draft already folds in the 'official' open
standards statement; which we will refine as Michael suggests. I will share
v0.2 with the list upon its Feb. 1 or latest Feb. 4 release.
Lee
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Subject: RE: [governance] RFC 6852: Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for
Standards--Some Comments
Avri and Stephane, and all
I gather that this is a "take it or leave it" i.e. no possibility for having
input into the document? If there is a possibiity I would like to contribute
my comments as interspersed below to a further revision of this document.
Please note my comments as a to a document which I would otherwise be
pleased to support...
Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards
Abstract
On 29 August 2012, the leaders of the IEEE Standards Association, the
IAB, the IETF, the Internet Society, and the W3C signed a statement
affirming the importance of a jointly developed set of principles
establishing a modern paradigm for global, open standards. These
principles have become known as the "OpenStand" principles. This
document contains the text of the affirmation that was signed.
Status of This Memo
This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is
published for informational purposes.
This document is a product of the Internet Architecture Board (IAB)
and represents information that the IAB has deemed valuable to
provide for permanent record. It represents the consensus of the
Internet Architecture Board (IAB). Documents approved for
publication by the IAB are not a candidate for any level of Internet
Standard; see Section 2 of RFC 5741.
Information about the current status of this document, any errata,
and how to provide feedback on it may be obtained at
http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc6852.
RFC 6852 Modern Paradigm for Standards January 2013
Copyright Notice
Copyright (c) 2013 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the
document authors. All rights reserved.
This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal
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to this document.
1. Introduction
On 29 August 2012, the leaders of the IEEE Standards Association, the
IAB, the IETF, the Internet Society, and the W3C signed a statement
affirming the importance of a jointly developed set of principles
establishing a modern paradigm for global, open standards. These
principles have become known as the "OpenStand" principles.
Section 2 of this document describes the five OpenStand principles.
Section 3 of this document contains the text of the signed
affirmation of the five OpenStand principles. Section 4 contains a
call for others to support the five OpenStand principles.
2. Modern Paradigm for Standards
Over the past several decades, the global economy has realized a huge
bounty due to the Internet and the World Wide Web. These could not
have been possible without the innovations and standardization of
many underlying technologies. This standardization occurred with
great speed and effectiveness only because of key characteristics of
a modern global standards paradigm. The affirmation below
characterizes the principles that have led to this success as a means
to ensure acceptance of standards activities that adhere to the
principles.
MG: AGREED...
We embrace a modern paradigm for standards where the economics of
global markets, fueled by technological advancements, drive global
deployment of standards regardless of their formal status.
MG: AGREED
In this paradigm standards support interoperability, foster global
competition, are developed through an open participatory process, and
are voluntarily adopted globally.
MG: AGREED
These voluntary standards serve as
building blocks for products and services targeted at meeting the
needs of the market and consumer, thereby driving innovation.
Innovation in turn contributes to the creation of new markets and the
growth and expansion of existing markets.
MG: DON'T THE STANDARDS ALSO AND PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY, PROVIDE THE
BUILDING BLOCK FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, SUPPORT THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND ENABLE
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE INTERNET AS A GLOBAL PUBLIC GOOD?
Participation in the modern paradigm demands:
1. Cooperation. Respectful cooperation between standards
organizations, whereby each respects the autonomy, integrity,
processes, and intellectual property rules of the others.
MG: AGREED
2. Adherence to principles. Adherence to the five fundamental
principles of standards development:
* Due process. Decisions are made with equity and fairness among
participants. No one party dominates or guides standards
development. Standards processes are transparent and
opportunities exist to appeal decisions. Processes for periodic
standards review and updating are well defined.
* Broad consensus. Processes allow for all views to be considered
and addressed, such that agreement can be found across a range
of interests.
* Transparency. Standards organizations provide advance public
notice of proposed standards development activities, the scope
of work to be undertaken, and conditions for participation.
Easily accessible records of decisions and the materials used in
reaching those decisions are provided. Public comment periods
are provided before final standards approval and adoption.
* Balance. Standards activities are not exclusively dominated by
any particular person, company or interest group.
* Openness. Standards processes are open to all interested and
informed parties.
MG: AGREED
3. Collective empowerment. Commitment by affirming standards
organizations and their participants to collective empowerment by
striving for standards that:
* are chosen and defined based on technical merit, as judged by
the contributed expertise of each participant;
* provide global interoperability, scalability, stability, and
resiliency;
* enable global competition;
MG: WHAT ABOUT ENABLING GLOBAL COOPERATION AS WELL AS COMPETITION?
* serve as building blocks for further innovation; and
* contribute to the creation of global communities, benefiting
humanity.
MG: WHAT ABOUT CONTRIBUTING TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND TO ENABLING THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE INTERNET AS A GLOBAL PUBLIC GOOD?
4. Availability. Standards specifications are made accessible to all
for implementation and deployment. Affirming standards
organizations have defined procedures to develop specifications
that can be implemented under fair terms. Given market diversity,
fair terms may vary from royalty-free to fair, reasonable, and
non-discriminatory terms (FRAND).
MG: WHAT ABOUT NON-MARKET BASED FORMS OF IMPLEMENTATION?
5. Voluntary adoption. Standards are voluntarily adopted and success
is determined by the market.
MG: IS SUCCESS IN THE MARKET THE ONLY POSSIBLE MEANS OF VALIDATION OF
STANDARDS--HAVE THEIR POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTION TO ENHANCING THE GLOBAL PUBLIC
GOOD/GLOBAL PUBLIC WELL-BEING BEEN CONSIDERED AS WELL?
3. Affirmation
We embrace a modern paradigm for standards where the economics of
global markets, fueled by technological advancements, drive global
deployment of standards regardless of their formal status.
MG: COULDN'T THE REALIZATION OF THE STANDARDS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST BE
EQUALLY, IF NOT MORE IMPORTANT, AS A PARADIGM DETERMINING DEPLOYMENT?
In this paradigm standards support interoperability, foster global
competition, are developed through an open participatory process, and
are voluntarily adopted globally. These voluntary standards serve as
building blocks for products and services targeted at meeting the
needs of the market and consumer, thereby driving innovation.
Innovation in turn contributes to the creation of new markets and the
growth and expansion of existing markets.
MG: COULD THIS PARADIGM NOT INCLUDE SUPPORTING GLOBAL COOPERATION AND
PROVIDING BUILDING BLOCKS FOR DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND
SUPPORTIVE OF THE PUBLIC GOOD.
MG: SHOULD NOT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF STANDARDS AS SUPPORTIVE OF BROAD BASED
INLUSION BE INCLUDED AS A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE--INCLUDING INCLUSION OF
THOSE WITH PHYSICAL DISABILITIES, THOSE IN RURAL AND REMOTE LOCATION, THOSE
WHO ARE SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY MARGINALIZED?
MIKE GURSTEIN
By signing this statement, we affirm our support for and adherence to
these principles.
Lynn St.Amour
President and CEO
Internet Society
Russ Housley
Chair
Internet Engineering Task Force
Bernard Aboba
Chair
Internet Architecture Board
Jeff Jaffe
CEO
W3C
Steve Mills
President
IEEE Standards Association
Housley, et al. Informational [Page 4]
RFC 6852 Modern Paradigm for Standards January 2013
4. Call for Endorsement
We invite other standards organizations, governments, corporations
and technology innovators globally to support these principles. You
can publicly show your support at <http://www.open-stand.org>.
5. Security Considerations
Nothing in this document directly affects the security of the
Internet.
6. IAB Members at Time of Approval
Internet Architecture Board Members at the time this document was
approved were:
Bernard Aboba
Jari Arkko
Marc Blanchet
Ross Callon
Alissa Cooper
Spencer Dawkins
Joel Halpern
Russ Housley
David Kessens
Danny McPherson
Jon Peterson
Dave Thaler
Hannes Tschofenig
Authors' Addresses
Russ Housley
EMail: housley at vigilsec.com
Steve Mills
EMail: s.mills at ieee.org
Jeff Jaffe
EMail: jeff at w3.org
Bernard Aboba
EMail: bernard_aboba at hotmail.com
Lynn St.Amour
EMail: st.amour at isoc.org
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From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:50 AM
To: IGC
Subject: Re: [governance] RFC 6852: Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for
Standards
On 26 Jan 2013, at 09:12, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> <http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6852.txt>
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6852.txt
>
> (It is the OpenStand declaration, republished as a RFC. Key words:
> standards, IETF, ITU, IEEE, W3C...)
It is a good document.
At end thee is a call:
"
4. Call for Endorsement
We invite other standards organizations, governments, corporations
and technology innovators globally to support these principles. You
can publicly show your support at < <http://www.open-stand.org>
http://www.open-stand.org>.
"
While the IGC is not among the : " standards organizations, governments,
corporations
and technology innovators"
and while it is unfortunate that they neglected to call for support from
civil society (a blind spot which I beleive often gets in way of getting
civil society support and cooperation)
Perhaps we should discuss supporting, or at least finding, a broad IGC
consensus on this document.
avri
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