[governance] Yet another new -strategy - thread title: It may be broke - politically - but how to fix it, technopolitically? ; )
Suresh Ramasubramanian
suresh at hserus.net
Wed Jan 23 21:20:52 EST 2013
Most anything can be made to have a bearing on the Internet, but those would fall under a related but slightly different topic, e-governance, or possibly ICT related development.
Can we remain focused on Internet governance here? There is a multiplicity of UN, ICANN and other policy focused conferences that can and will demand our full attention, or at least our full attemtion at times when we aren't sniping at each other over words of ideology of course :)
--srs (iPad)
On 24-Jan-2013, at 6:12, "Ian Peter" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
> Alx, perhaps the compelling question over and above all of these issues, particularly for those who praise and promote the multistakeholder model as a guiding principle of internet governance, is what can we do to make the IGC more effective in dealing with all of these issues?
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> Ian Peter
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> PS while agreeing that involuntary poverty and greenhouse emissions have better places to be discussed, internet can do things as regards these issues. As regards tax - again there are probably wider fora that are better for discussing this issue, but we need to acknowledge that the tax implication of significant volumes of internet based trade are a new and significant problems for nation states. Best we try to address these in a multistakeholder forum, perhaps?
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> Subject: RE: [governance] Yet another new -strategy - thread title: It may be broke - politically - but how to fix it, technopolitically? ; )
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> Ian,
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> let's start by trimming and paring... involuntary poverty, greenhous emissions, and taxation have so far eluded the IGC's grasp.
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> What are the problems, say on the WGIG list of 40, where you see the IGC has had more success?
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> Yours,
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> Enviado el: miércoles, 23 de enero de 2013 13:46
> Hasta: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"; Norbert Bollow; Lee W McKnight
> Asunto: Re: [governance] Yet another new -strategy - thread title: It may be broke - politically - but how to fix it, technopolitically? ; )
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> Alx, I'm all for quick wins if we can find them - what are the "more
> approachable problems of internet governance" on which you think we should
> focus?
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> Ian Peter
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:36 AM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" ; Norbert
> Bollow ; Lee W McKnight
> Subject: RE: [governance] Yet another new -strategy - thread title: It may
> be broke - politically - but how to fix it, technopolitically? ; )
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> Wolfgang,
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> "and world peace", from the eminent and much admired philosopher Sandra
> Bullock.
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> Sala-now-Norbert, disclaimer, this is meant as a sort of joke containing
> irony with a tongue-in-cheek gesture and some eye-rolling as a
> humor-intended framework for a call to focus on the more approachable
> problems of Internet Governance. It may not be understood by some and may
> not be liked by others. Dismiss me from posting at will.
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> Alejandro Pisanty
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> Enviado el: miércoles, 23 de enero de 2013 11:09
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> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Lee W McKnight
> Asunto: AW: [governance] Yet another new -strategy - thread title: It may be
> broke - politically - but how to fix it, technopolitically? ; )
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> Norbert:
> From my perspective, I'm inclined to suggest that the key goal should be to
> solve the problems of eradicating involuntary poverty and
> sufficiently limiting greenhouse gas emissions.
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> Wolfgang:
> Good issues. However we have to link this to the Internet related aspects
> and we have to continue with our main priorities as human rights, consumer
> rights, bridging the digital divde, infrastructure development, privacy,
> (free) access, further conceptual enhancement of the multistakehoder IG
> model in ongoing international Internet negotiations in 2013 (WSIS 10+,
> WTPF, UNCSTD, WTDC, UNGA, HRC, IGF, ICAAN etc.) among others.
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