[governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax

Wed Jan 23 14:05:47 EST 2013

Here is a handy URL for Trade Acronyms:

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/11870/List_of_International_Trade_Acronyms.htm

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Koven Ronald <kovenronald at aol.com> wrote:

>
> As an aside I'm wondering if we as a group might not want to try to avoid
> specialized jargon and acronyms.  I know that I'm guilty of this as well
> from time to time but we need to recognize that we are a multi-lingual,
> multi-cultural group with a lot of people whose first language isn't Tech,
> International Relations, International Trade and that's apart from those
> who aren't able to communicate here in their other first languages :)
>
> + 1  with feeling!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
> To: 'William Drake' <william.drake at uzh.ch>; governance <
> governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 5:34 pm
> Subject: RE: [governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax
>
>  Thanks Bill, also very informative…
>
> As an aside I'm wondering if we as a group might not want to try to avoid
> specialized jargon and acronyms.  I know that I'm guilty of this as well
> from time to time but we need to recognize that we are a multi-lingual,
> multi-cultural group with a lot of people whose first language isn't Tech,
> International Relations, International Trade and that's apart from those
> who aren't able to communicate here in their other first languages :)
>
> M
>
>  *From:* William Drake [mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch<william.drake at uzh.ch?>]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:30 AM
> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax
>
> Hi Mike
>
>  The GATS has 15 General Obligations and Disciplines (GODs).  Absent
> waivers or other limitations, the key GODs of MFN and national treatment
> apply to their scheduled services, and the EC schedule is quite
> liberalizing and covers information services, which presumably includes the
> targeted "over the top" services.  If instead you wanted to argue for a
> narrowly content-based categorization, I've not looked at it in a decade
> but the EC schedule is probably more restrictive regarding advertising
> services; however, in this it's probably typical in not being reflective of
> contemporary web-based transactions like what Google, FB etc. are up to
> (could look on the WTO site). And of course, one could debate whether that
> simple category would suffice here.
>
>  In any event, despite all the intensive debate and rule making of the
> 1990s, com ministries don't generally appear to be all that attentive to
> the GATS, at least until the national trade ministries call and tell them
> there's a complaint etc.  I've not detected much attention to it in the ITU
> in some time, and certainly did not hear anyone talk about it or suggest it
> mattered to what they were proposing in Dubai.
>
>  Bill
>
>  On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:35 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Bill I'm very curious as to the specifics of your assertion below.
>
>  Could you provide?
>
>  Tks,
>
>  M
>
>   *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-<governance-?>
> request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *William Drake
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:23 PM
> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Nick Ashton-Hart
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax
>
>
>   On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at ccianet.org>
> wrote:
>
>  It would not be possible for a measure  to target foreign companies only
> - that would breach France's WTO obligations (and that of many other
> countries were they to try to do the same thing).
>
>   A small problem that seemed to receive zero discussion among the
> proponents in Dubai
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