[governance] banning list members

[Nyangkwe Agien Aaron]

I think, the decision would have been taken some 4 years ago.
I quite remember Suresh unguarded language some four years ago leading
to a heated debate on "intimation tactics" on this forum.

Sala's is timely and merit support from all members who want convivial
democratic debates not insults against fellow members.

Aaron

On 1/8/13, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu> wrote:
> Hi McTim,
>
> I fully support Sala's decision re temporary banning Suresh from this list.
>
> Whether or not a member of this caucus contributes "actual, productive
> Internet governance in the technical community" seems pretty irrelevant
> for the assessment of the communication style of this member.
>
> I've been on this list since 2003 or so and was its co-coordinator for a
> few years. I have always found the communication culture on this list a
> real pain. An enormous amount of energy among the active participants
> seems to be wasted on being aggressive or fending off aggressive behaviour.
>
> I have more or less given up contributing to these debates not only
> because I dislike this macho "if you can't stand the heat, get out of
> the kitchen" approach but also because following these endless
> repetitions of the same arguments is very very tiresome.
>
> While it may be true that there are more candidates than just Sala who
> deserves being banned from this list, Sala deserves respect for the fact
> that she is still trying to improve this very important communication
> environment. I have always felt that this cross-stakeholder platform
> fulfills a very important function for the interaction between civil
> society and the technical community and I wished that more people helped
> creating an atmosphere that makes this conversation a pleasure.
>
> jeanette
>
>
>
> Am 08.01.2013 14:18, schrieb McTim:
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
>> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>    Suresh gets booted from this list for
>>>> trying to say that anti-Google campaign is boring, while those who
>>>> mistakenly label folk as "right-wing"
>>>> (the people in the US who normally bash Google) are seen as victims?
>>>> Does anyone on this list understand the irony involved here? anyone??
>>>
>>>
>>> For the record, Suresh was not removed for his ideas but was removed for
>>> the
>>> manner in which he attacked Riaz.
>>
>> Can you specify the manner of this "attack"?  What exact words
>> constituted an "attack"?
>>
>> Riaz has a history of using loaded words.  This provocation is
>> unchallenged by the coordinators.
>>
>> Suresh has a long history of doing actual, productive Internet
>> governance in the technical community.
>>
>>
>>
>> The spirit of the list should be where
>>> dialogue is encouraged and there is an expected level of decorum expected
>>> of
>>> lists. There was a distinct pattern
>>
>> Yes, there is a pattern, it's not however the pattern that you see.
>> The pattern is that one person uses provocative words.
>> People react to those words in like manner.  The provocatuer then
>> cries "ad hominem" and you react to that.
>>
>> In short, you are being conned madame, and i ask that you re-consider
>> your decision.
>>
>> I ask that 4 other Members of the caucus +1 the request for an appeal.
>>
>
>


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