[governance] banning list members

[Jeanette Hofmann]

Hi McTim,

I fully support Sala's decision re temporary banning Suresh from this list.

Whether or not a member of this caucus contributes "actual, productive 
Internet governance in the technical community" seems pretty irrelevant 
for the assessment of the communication style of this member.

I've been on this list since 2003 or so and was its co-coordinator for a 
few years. I have always found the communication culture on this list a 
real pain. An enormous amount of energy among the active participants 
seems to be wasted on being aggressive or fending off aggressive behaviour.

I have more or less given up contributing to these debates not only 
because I dislike this macho "if you can't stand the heat, get out of 
the kitchen" approach but also because following these endless 
repetitions of the same arguments is very very tiresome.

While it may be true that there are more candidates than just Sala who 
deserves being banned from this list, Sala deserves respect for the fact 
that she is still trying to improve this very important communication 
environment. I have always felt that this cross-stakeholder platform 
fulfills a very important function for the interaction between civil 
society and the technical community and I wished that more people helped 
creating an atmosphere that makes this conversation a pleasure.

jeanette



Am 08.01.2013 14:18, schrieb McTim:
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>    Suresh gets booted from this list for
>>> trying to say that anti-Google campaign is boring, while those who
>>> mistakenly label folk as "right-wing"
>>> (the people in the US who normally bash Google) are seen as victims?
>>> Does anyone on this list understand the irony involved here? anyone??
>>
>>
>> For the record, Suresh was not removed for his ideas but was removed for the
>> manner in which he attacked Riaz.
>
> Can you specify the manner of this "attack"?  What exact words
> constituted an "attack"?
>
> Riaz has a history of using loaded words.  This provocation is
> unchallenged by the coordinators.
>
> Suresh has a long history of doing actual, productive Internet
> governance in the technical community.
>
>
>
> The spirit of the list should be where
>> dialogue is encouraged and there is an expected level of decorum expected of
>> lists. There was a distinct pattern
>
> Yes, there is a pattern, it's not however the pattern that you see.
> The pattern is that one person uses provocative words.
> People react to those words in like manner.  The provocatuer then
> cries "ad hominem" and you react to that.
>
> In short, you are being conned madame, and i ask that you re-consider
> your decision.
>
> I ask that 4 other Members of the caucus +1 the request for an appeal.
>

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