[governance] Appeal request Re: [] Updates on MAG 2013

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Mon Jan 7 03:54:29 EST 2013


On Monday 07 January 2013 11:38 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
> On 6 Jan 2013, at 22:24, Adam Peake wrote:
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>> Hi Avri,
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>> Could you explain why an abuse.  You've been something of a master of
>> the caucus' charter, would be good to understand more before +1'ing or
>> not.
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>> Thank you,
>>
>> Adam
> the Nomcom process, included by reference as part of the charter says:
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>> Each nomcom will be selected for a specific decision and will be disbanded after the decision is made.However, in special cases where several different nominating committees would need to be completed in a shortened time frame that did not allow for multiple nominating committees, the co-coordinators may jointly request one nominating committee to fill several functions.
> The request for a Nomcom to fulfill several tasks is an a-prioir requirement, not something that can be done a-posteriori as in "oh my, we knew we needed to set up a nomcom but dod not get around to it, so lets just make the last nomcom do it"

I agree. and in addition there is also the need to meet the condition of 
their being a 'shortened time frame' that does not allow for multiple 
nomcoms to overrule the basic requirement that " Each nomcom will be 
selected for a specific decision and will be disbanded after the 
decision is made." With many months gone since the nomcom did its work, 
this condition is also not met.

I know that contextual flexibilities are often required but, Sala, you 
have not explained to me why it takes much more time to get a new nomcom 
out or an existing set of volunteers, with a 2 day opt out/ out in window...

The problem with arbitrariness, or taking the view that the earlier 
noncom worked well (or even worse, produced good results), is that at 
some time it can abused by those who for the wrong reason may want to 
continue with one or the other nomcom. Therefore, as far as possible, it 
is best not to build precedents that can be mis used in the future....

Also, Sala, I did not understand what is to be proposed to be included 
in the vote for new co-coordinator with regard to the nomcom. Can you 
please elaborate.

parminder



> We discussed  changing to the charter to make it possible to have a nomcom per year.  But we never got around to doing anything about it.  To do so now on the whim of a single coordinator is an abuse of power by the coordinator.
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> We knew that MAG nominations would be required at the beginning of the year, but we did nothing about it.
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> We have gotten into the habit of ignoring the charter and just doing things in an ad-hoc manner when all of a sudden we realize we are very late getting ourselves into gear.
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> This habit of ignoring the charter in favor of coordinator last minute urges is what I view as a charter abuse.  Deciding to reactivate a disbanded nomcom is an ad-hoc replacement of process.  Better we miss submitting names than that we bless this current regime of neglect by our coordinators with further last minute ad-hoc process.
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> If we keep it up this way, we will be ignoring our processes as much as ICANN has begun to ignore its processes.
> And that is no way to participate in the IGF.
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> In any case, that is what the Appeals team is for.  If 4 members of the IGC request a review, they get one.
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> avri
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> BTW, with the irregularities in the last election I am not sure whether I am a member or not.  Hence my request for 4 co-requestoers - just in case the powers that be decide to invalidate my request.  Another issues that was never dealt with by our co-coordinators.
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