[governance] Google's Lawyers Work Behind the Scenes to Carry the Day - NYTimes.com

Thomas Lowenhaupt toml at communisphere.com
Sun Jan 6 15:10:51 EST 2013


Regarding "right to know" and "right to say," the following was posted 
on a Transparent Search 
<http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/transparent-search> 
wiki page we host.

    "Such placements need to be carefully reviewed by fairness rules of
    what might be called "search journalism." Here in the U.S. the First
    Amendment  - "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom
    of speech, or of the press..." -  poses an apparent block to any
    regulation.

    "But it might be argued that there are parallels between the impact
    of technology on the interpretation of the First Amendment, perhaps
    with parallels drawn with the Second Amendment. Americans are all to
    familiar with a decades long controversy about that Amendment's
    guaranteeing a citizen's right to bare arms: Did the Founding
    Fathers intend that citizens be allowed to own and use powerful
    automatic weapons?  The corresponding First Amendment question might
    be: Was big data, big money, and search imagined by the Founding
    Fathers?"

    "So for the immediate future, regulation of search journalism is
    unlikely. And with the creation of a transparent "search.nyc" vital
    to our city's effective operation, a trusted entity must be
    identified to oversee its development."

Best,

Tom Lowenhaupt



On 1/6/2013 12:46 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
>
> Perhaps before trolling on you might want to actually read the 
> blogpost of which this was a "teaser"… http://wp.me/pJQl5-ab
>
> M
>
> *From:*Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh at hserus.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 06, 2013 8:52 AM
> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] FW: [IP] Google's Lawyers Work Behind the 
> Scenes to Carry the Day - NYTimes.com
>
> So do you get all your news from just news.google.com 
> <http://news.google.com> and other google search results, instead of 
> Facebook shares, Riaz gleefully posting every article he sees about 
> google being investigated for, say, giggling in church?
>
> And did Riaz find this news item anywhere other than google search?
>
> And does this reality distortion field google is supposed to have 
> actually hide any search results from you that are negative to it? 
>  Like search for "google FTC" and you get the EU action, statements 
> from Microsoft slamming the decision etc.
>
> And the last link on page 1 of the search results showing just where 
> google got spanked by the FTC. 
> http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/111650/why-does-everyone-think-google-beat-the-ftc# 
> <http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/111650/why-does-everyone-think-google-beat-the-ftc> is 
> worth a read as a kind f counterpoint to all the commentary about how 
> google got a get out of jail card because of intensive lobbying.
>
> Can we please
>
> 1. Have a reality check here
>
> 2. Go back to discussing Internet governance
>
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
>
> On 06-Jan-2013, at 22:00, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com 
> <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Riaz (and sorry for the really awkward phrasing…
>
>     To put that in English…
>
>     /I'm wondering whether it wouldn't be better to "investigate"
>     Google for possible "freedom of thought" violations rather than
>     issues concerning "freedom of speech"… Google has the potential
>     for much more serious impacts on our capacity to know (or not
>     know) certain things, than on what we can say or not say…/
>
>     //
>
>     /M/
>

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