[governance] Yes! Hands off the Internet!

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Let me be frank.. It is an established fact that a contract to engage in illegal behavior is an invalid contract, ab initio. 

So, if a website's contract with a user was to contravene some existing law in a country where the user is located, or were it to  contravene US law, it would be automatically rendered invalid. 

Which is, I am sure you will appreciate, the reason why any such contact and all its revisions, would go through extensive due diligence legal review. 

And, especially when a country's privacy, data protection, fair trade etc regulator has received complaints about the website, their lawyers would carry out an equally thorough review with a view to possible enforcement action against the website 

So.. This might be more difficult than simply blogging about how disrespectful of user privacy a website is, but try to find where they violate local laws in their collection and use of your personal data, and complain to the appropriate regulator 

--srs (htc one x)


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From: "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com>
To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, "'Pranesh Prakash'" <pranesh at cis-india.org>
Subject: [governance] Yes! Hands off the Internet!
Date: Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:49 PM


Pranesh, I think the (high) relevance of the Nader article is in response to the position articulated by (I believe it was) David Conrad and Suresh, with respect to (particularly Facebook) that "ya' pays yer money and ya' takes yer chances" errr... you sign up to the service which includes "assenting" to some indecipherable contract waiver and then (according to them) you are subject to whatever whims or fancies their over-clever and over-priced lawyers and evil twin marketers come up with in their capricious privacy (or whatever) statement of the day... forevermore... 

M

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From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Pranesh Prakash
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 2:01 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Riaz K Tayob
Subject: Re: [governance] Yes! Hands off the Internet!

Riaz K Tayob [2012-12-29 18:37]:
> See Nader on this issue... here
> <https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/contract-peonage-by-ralph-nader/>.

While Nader is quite relevant to the current discussion, I fail to see how this article of his pertains to this thread.

> Will try to dig out something on why oligopoly is a better approach to 
> understand these kinds of markets than the simple competition vs 
> monopoly argument...

Even assuming oligopoly is the better approach, what is the precise statement of the problem and what is the solution that the "oligopoly approach" provides?

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Pranesh Prakash
Policy Director
Centre for Internet and Society
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