[governance] FW: [IP] re the post Dubai ITU-T - "traitor tracing"

[Lee W McKnight]

Since I forwarded the prior red herring doc...here's a comment.
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From: DAVID J. FARBER [farber at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:12 PM
To: ip
Subject: [IP] re the post Dubai ITU-T - "traitor tracing"

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From: Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder at Opus1.COM>
Subject: Re: [IP] the post Dubai ITU-T - "traitor tracing"
Date: February 19, 2013 11:31:41 AM EST
To: trutkowski at netmagic.com
Cc: dave at farber.net

Oh, come on, Tony.  I wrote X.6, 21 years ago, and if you've read it, it's a complete piece of useless nonsense which had applicability to X.25 and X.32, both of which are now as irrelevant as SNA.  No one bothered with it then, and certainly no one is going to bother with it now.

You have enough years on the ground to know exactly what this is: some clueless newbie who has no context for what any of this means just wandering around trying to make a contribution because he doesn't know what else to do.

There may be a pile of manure coming out of ITU, but some Iranian contribution to X.6 is not the problem.  You're going to have to come up with a better example (and I am sure you won't have any problems) than that.  Plus, of course, the term "traitor tracing" is completely undefined and could mean ANYTHING in the context of Multicast, from some highly scientific definition of someone "betraying" the multicast group mechanics in some way (maybe failing to re-broadcast or whatever) to a poor translation of "insider threat"---something that security people ARE always interested in.

Let's get real about getting real here...

jms


On 2/19/13 5:16 PM, Dave Farber wrote:
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Tony Rutkowski*
> Date: Tuesday, February 19, 2013
> Subject: the post Dubai ITU-T - "traitor tracing"
> To: Dave Farber <dave at farber.net <mailto:dave at farber.net>>
>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Even the most jaded ITU watcher
> will marvel at this new work
> proposed yesterday by a new Iranian
> ministry for pursuit in ITU-T at
> its first post-Dubai security group
> meeting.
>
> This is just one of many "new normal"
> G89 activities now being pursued,
> and being underwritten by voluntary
> financial contributions by the U.S.
>
> Maybe IP readership can collectively
> ask why the U.S. has not joined the
> many other G55 nations that walked
> out of the WCIT in reducing their
> funding for this kind of activity.
>
> --tony
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