[governance] Re: caucus contribution, consultation and MAG meeting

[Adam Peake]

Thanks Parminder.  Agreed.

Adam



On Tuesday, February 12, 2013, parminder wrote:

> Norbert / All
>
> Thanks for bringing these inputs and/or proposed changes to the statement
> to the elist. In fact I prefer that all substantial inputs/ proposed
> changes are made on this list, and not just on the web page... It helps
> engage others to comment, and may be, without suggesting that anyone is
> being irresponsible, increases the sense of responsibility  of whoever
> makes suggestions for changes. As argued earlier deliberative democracy is
> the key legitimacy of civil society, and I have found that inputting in the
> ensconced solitude of writing comments on editable web pages is often not
> the best way to promote deliberative democracy.
>
> May I request that from now on whoever wants to make substantial
> amendments to the proposed statements also sends an email to this group
> about it - preferably with some amount of due reasoning.
>
> parminder
>
>
> On Tuesday 12 February 2013 03:20 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
>
> [IGC Coordinator hat on]
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 I wrote:
>
> Given that only a week is remaining until the submission deadline,
> let's have an internal deadline of February 10 for suggesting points
> to add or raising concerns about parts of the draft text.
>
> A number of comments have been made that we now need to resolve. In the
> following, I will give, for each of the paragraphs, the comment, and
> then propose a resolution.
>
> If from your perspective either the current text or the proposed
> resolution is not acceptable, please say so by Wednesday Feb 13, 23.59
> PST. If we get opposition to both variants, the coordinators may be
> forced to make a rough consensus call or, in the worst case, drop the
> conflicted paragraph from the statement in its entirety. Let's try to
> avoid that eventuality.
>
> All references are to http://www.igcaucus.org/**digressit/archives/107<http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/107>
>
> Paragraph 3
> ===========
> Current text: "There has been a sense of impatience and great urgency
> vis a vis the fact that IGF has really not addressed key global public
> policy questions that it was created to contribute towards resolution
> of. For too long it has remained caught in matters of process and form.
> It is time to do what it really needed to do."
>
> McTim has commented: "This seems to be overly editorial to me. What
> does it “really need to do”?"
>
> Proposed resolution: Delete the two final sentences of the paragraph,
> resulting in: "There has been a sense of impatience and great urgency
> vis a vis the fact that IGF has really not addressed key global public
> policy questions that it was created to contribute towards resolution
> of."
>
> Paragraph 12
> ============
> Current text: "A possible overall theme for 2013 could be: “Meaningful
> participation of all stakeholders in Internet governance”."
>
> Nick Ashton-Hart has commented: "That is a possible theme, but it is
> also really dry – and  what connection does it have with the lives of
> real Internet users? How about something like “How can Internet
> Governance Benefit Users Worldwide?”"
>
> Proposed resolution: Offer both proposals, resulting in: "A possible
> overall theme for 2013 could be: “Meaningful participation of all
> stakeholders in Internet governance”, or “How can Internet
> Governance Benefit Users Worldwide?”."
>
> Paragraphs 13 + 14
> ==================
> Current text of paragraph 13: "Main sessions and workshops should not
> be competing with each other, as they are not substitutes.  Workshops
> are the best forum for self-selected groups to exchange information,
> opinions and experiences.  These can be more productive than main
> sessions, but are often limited to narrow communities of interest and
> can therefore lack external impact.  Main sessions are better for
> bringing the insights developed through workshops and dynamic coalition
> members to the broader community of IGF participants, including those
> with influence over or connections to processes of policy development.
> Main sessions have the potential to allow for high-level
> consensus-building and strategising on how these insights can be
> reflected in policy and/or technical processes elsewhere, sometimes
> across issue areas: for example, messages on critical Internet
> resources might also be relevant to those involved in security or
> openness issues and vice versa. Therefore, main sessions should not be
> treated as just “big workshops” relevant only to those with topical
> interests, but should be for the broadest possible segment of the IGF
> community to attend. Consequently, the programme should be restructured
> so that main sessions and workshops are not happening at the same time.
> Maybe the IGF could be extended to five says?"
>
> Current text of paragraph 14: "Even then a reduction of the number of
> main sessions and a reduction of the number of workshops is necessary.
> The specific choice of main session topics should vary year by year to
> address truly “hot topics” that are on the tips of tongues everywhere."
>
> Nick Ashton-Hart has attached the following comment to paragraph 13:
> "There should not be ‘reruns’ of sessions held at previous IGFs and new
> voices should be prioritised over those who have been heard from many
> times."
>
> Proposed resolution: Add Nick's text to the end or paragraph 14,
> resulting in the following new text for paragraph 14: "Even then a
> reduction of the number of main
>
>
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