[governance] We need a new formulation of end-to-end analysis

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

:) which is fun because Richard is one of the most vocal critics of the Susan Crawford etc school of Thoth on net neutrality.  I do happen to agree with him by and large, but at least on the IP list that puts me in a slightly small minority,

--srs (iPad)

On 04-Feb-2013, at 21:37, "Louis Pouzin (well)" <pouzin at well.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Karl Auerbach <karl at cavebear.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 01/24/2013 08:20 AM, Riaz K Tayob wrote:
>> 
>> >     We need a new formulation of end-to-end analysis
>> >
>> > End-to-end analysis is the major theoretization of the Internet that was
>> > proposed by Jerome Saltzer, David Reed and David Clark
>> > <http://www.reed.com/dpr/locus/Papers/EndtoEnd.html>
>> 
>> Less on topic and more of a question about internet history...
>> 
>> I had always attributed the idea of moving intelligence out of the
>> packet switches and into the attached hosts came from Cyclades (from our friend on this list Louis Pouzin).  Is my understanding incorrect?
>> 
>>         --karl--
> - - - 
> 
> Hi Karl, and other end-to-end debaters,
> 
> An article by Richard Bennett presents a fine analysis of end-to-end principles, their origins, innovations, evolutions and distortions.
> 
> Designed for Change: End-to-End Arguments, Internet Innovation, and the Net Neutrality Debate
> 
> http://www.itif.org/files/2009-designed-for-change.pdf
> 
> an excerpt:
> 
> « The Inter­net is an adaptable system because its experimental character provides it with a built-in learning function that enables engineers to make network and proto­col design decisions empirically. It’s fair to say that its design is dictated more by a commitment to contin­ual improvement than by obedience to hard and fast rules: It was meant to be a system in which experi­ments would have the consequence of improving the network. This method of designing networks was pio­neered by CYCLADES, the datagram network created by Louis Pouzin in France in the early 1970s, and was subsequently adopted by the Internet and several other networks. The experimental approach to network de­sign and operation is challenged by the modern-day network neutrality framework, which relies more on a rigid system of rules to make decisions about the place­ment of network functions than on experience and empirical evidence. »
> 
> Enjoy, Louis
> 
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