[governance] Message to the IGC [Call for Wider Civil Society to engage in a Coalition]

Mon Dec 9 04:51:19 EST 2013

Receive warm greetings from Cameroon.
I-Vission International is interested in this offer.
Kindly find the answers next to questions below:

	1. Name of the Organisation or Network (and when organisation or network was first formed)
I-Vission International, formed on the 10th of September 2008
	1. Details of Constituency represented (Please also identify whether this is a country based/regional or international)
Represented in Sub Sahara Africa (Region)
	1. Name of Coordinator of Organisation/Network
Asama Abel Excel
	1. Contact Details (including website)
I-VISSION INTERNATIONAL
3rd Floor immeuble Centre Médical de Bessengué
 Box 13040 Blvd de la rep., Feu Rouge Bessengué
Douala Cameroon
E: ivissioninternational at yahoo.fr / excelasama at yahoo.fr :
info at ivission.net
T (bur): +237 33 76 55 76  (Mob): 99 44 43 91 / 76 14 26 23
Skype (office): i-vission (personal):
excelasama, My blog
Web: www.ivission.net 
Web album: www.flickr.com/ivission
Facebook: ivission.internationl
Twitter: www.twitter.com/ivission 
NWK: www.meetup.com/ivission

	1. Name of one Nominee to the Coalition who will speak on administrative matters where it comes to the wider coalition
             Asama Abel Excel

___________________________________
Asama Abel Excel
President and CEO
I-VISSION INTERNATIONAL
3rd Floor immeuble Centre Médical de Bessengué
 Box 13040 Blvd de la rep., Feu Rouge Bessengué
Douala Cameroon
E: ivissioninternational at yahoo.fr / excelasama at yahoo.fr : info at ivission.net
T (bur): +237 33 76 55 76  (Mob): 99 44 43 91 / 76 14 26 23Skype (office): i-vission (personal): excelasama, My blogWeb: www.ivission.net 
Web album: www.flickr.com/ivission
Facebook: ivission.internationl
Twitter: www.twitter.com/ivission 
NWK: www.meetup.com/ivission

Le Lundi 9 décembre 2013 9h00, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> a écrit :

Hi Ian

On Dec 8, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:

Hi Bill,

What you can tell your colleagues off list who are not already aware is 
that a group of civil society organisations, who in past years have nominated 
candidates to MAG CSTD etc separately, are working together to try to come up 
with common candidate slates for things like 1net steering committee, Brazil 
committees etc. I personally cant tell you the beginnings because I wasn’t there 
– I joined a little later when I was asked to take up a facilitation role.

The current members are Best Bits, NCSG, Diplo, APC and IGC – although IGC 
is perhaps less active given the rather difficult state of its affairs recently. 
Hopefully this is a temporary situation.
Yes I know about the nomcom, not my question.  I was asking for some friendly clarifications about BB, presumably to the BB steering committee.

>There has been no approach from ISOC to join. As far as I know ISOC 
organises technical community representation for MAG CSTD etc so probably has a 
quite different role to perform.
You must be responding to Avri here, I didn’t mention ISOC.

>There has been confusion because some people are talking of a wider civil 
society coalition emerging (This prompted my questions and those of Carlos as to 
how this would relate to organisations such as Best Bits IGC etc). Although I 
have no problems which such an initiative if there is a need for it, I have made 
it clear that my personal involvement here is purely facilitating co-operation 
for the selection of common representatives, and any wider organisation 
establishment is a different process and will need to be facilitated 
separately.  
> 
>I hope that helps. This is a genuine attempt to get common nominations from 
civil society groups, and certainly has involvement and support of some of those 
most active in this field. 
I recognize that, and was not asking about it.

And certainly the nominations and expressions of 
interest coming forward are from a very wide range of civil society interests 
who are involved with the above groups and their diverse global networks.
> 
>As regards statements – all of the above organisations, and individuals 
within them, are likely to make statements on issues that others in this 
coordination group would not agree with, on this list and on others. There have 
been no official statements on issues from this group to date and if there are 
in future they will be clearly identified as such.
Right.

All the best,

Bill

> 
>Ian Peter 
>From: William Drake 
>Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:35 AM
>To: Governance ; Avri Doria 
>Subject: Re: [governance] Message to the IGC [Call for Wider Civil 
Society to engage in a Coalition]
>  Hi 
> 
>On Dec 8, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>>
>>If it is networks and not organizations, or 
  organized entities, thanx I do not believe that IGC belongs in the list of 
  enumerated networks.
>>
>>Especially since almost all the members of the IGC 
  are also in the BB. To me this this looks like double dipping.
>>
> I understand the argument but am not sure which is the second 
dip.  To my knowledge, BB is a platform that allows orgs and individuals to 
sign onto statements, it doesn’t have a fixed membership.  So absent a sign 
on in support, who would the representative of BB on the 1net coordination group 
or any other collaboration (e.g. the SP committees) actually represent, besides 
the five BB steering committee members?
> 
>BB is a good initiative with good folks but I just don’t understand its 
status in this context.   Nor do I understand what its position is on 
1net and related, since key participants keep saying rather different things on 
the lists, some of them in rather ringingly definitive terms like “Civil society 
believes xyz” (needless to say, the rest of civil society was not asked and may 
not agree).    I think it’d be helpful if the steering committee 
would pow wow and come out with a clear statement as to its positions and for 
whom exactly they are speaking, as the various messages have caused a lot of 
confusion among other stakeholders on 1net who’ve been asking off list who are 
these folks and what’s the deal with them, and I have no idea how to 
respond.
> 
>Best
> 
>Bill
>
>>ISOC is a reasonable 
addition.
>>~~~
>>avri
>>
>
>
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