[governance] Fwd: [At-Large] The Internet as we know it is dead

[JFC Morfin]

At 18:44 30/08/2013, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>Yes, certainly there are. The whole idea of MuSH involves elevating 
>non-state actors to the same or comparable status of state actors in 
>the formulation of policy.

Milton,
I fear this is the problem. "Politics is the art of commanding free 
people" (Aristotle). The internet governance is about concerting 
among free people and organizations. In doing this there are only two 
tools: talks and acts. Civil society has reduced itself to talks. The 
other categories have retained and are developing their acting capacity.

>The standardization processes of your vaunted IETF used to be 
>performed by states, but in IETF was not.

IETF is no more neutral. RFC 6852 puts it in the private sector 
category. This is because actors (corporations, states, international 
organizations) had to disengaged themslves from the talking only 
category to stay tuned with the other two acting categories you can 
identify as ITU and UN.

>One simple example.
>ICANN was _supposed_ to be denationalized, but the US couldn't bring 
>itself to let go. But nothing about the original plan was "not 
>feasible" - it was a choice.

It was not an act of God but of Govs? It was sitted aside Peter de 
Blanc when he threatened Michael Roberts to reset to the ccTLD 
nuclear arsenal. This is part of the IANA battle.

>Governance of Internet routing is largely denationalized now.

 From reading you (I am not a specialist of lower layers) I 
understood it was "internationalized", the world being used to mean 
"US coordinated international cooperation" as per Zbigniew Brzezin'ski?

jfc




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