[governance] WGEC: Questionnaire on internet governance

Adam Peake ajp at glocom.ac.jp
Fri Aug 30 03:44:47 EDT 2013 

On Aug 30, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:

> Hi people, as a member of WGEC, I do not recall any decision that would
> preclude its members' organizations from presenting their responses to
> the questionnaire. As is well known, WGEC (like the MAG) members are
> there in their personal capacities as members of stakeholder groups, not
> as reps or "ambassadors" of their respective organizations.


Hi Carlos,

I don't see how this questioning is relevant to my comment, I didn't mention rules, MAG etc.  Basically I was expressing an opinion that a WGEC member shopping a statement around for support so they could be presented as the views of a wider group was not a great idea.  

About the WGEC members and your view of your role, I read the statement by Miguel Palomino de la Gala, Chairman of CSTD about the composition of the working group differently, see 

http://unctad.org/en/pages/newsdetails.aspx?OriginalVersionID=442&Sitemap_x0020_Taxonomy=Commission%20on%20Science%20and%20Technology%20for%20Development;#1944;#Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation (WGEC)

he says:

"I would like to express my sincere appreciation to the designated focal points for each regional and stakeholder group, for their efforts in facilitating consultations on their respective representatives ... "

and

"I intend to have the meetings of the Working Group be open for observers, including Member States regardless of whether or not they are members of the CSTD, and representatives of business, civil society, technical and academic communities..."

I read 'representatives of'.  Good chance I may have missed other statements from the CSTD about the working group, you might have had discussions in the WG about your roles, and as a senior member of the group I am sure you know better and will clarify.  Or you might start to act accordingly as a representative of civil society and consult with us.  It would be nice to think you are interested in the views of you civil society colleagues.    

Whatever, I don't see how this is relevant to my earlier email.  


> Where did
> you get this from, Adam?
> 

I didn't get anything from anywhere... I think you are reading things that were not there.

Adam
 


> fraternal regards
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 08/29/2013 08:07 AM, Adam Peake wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Perhaps he was referring to the statement Parminder is sending around looking for support.  It is perhaps confusing having two statements in circulation: one by the Best Bits and one by Parminder who is a participant in both the Best Bits collective and a member of the WGEC.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, not so good when working group members are advising themselves in this way, multiple ways.  The IT for Change position makes many unsubstantiated claims, and again repeats that the Internet is a global commons, which it clearly is not (what's the point of engaging in honest debate on this list if ignored for the sake of some political doctrine?)  And bestbits, which I personally disagree with enough not to be able to support, but it much more thoughtful, but is also somewhat undermined by having WG members as authors.  Poor process.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> avri
>>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2013, at 06:57, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 27/08/2013, at 12:13 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 27-Aug-2013, at 7:21, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Although the Caucus is a little fractured at the moment, Norbert and Sala might nevertheless wish to gauge the feeling of the Caucus towards signing on corporately.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It would help gain broader consensus if the worst bits of that statement were removed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bringing ICANN under UN oversight, really?  
>>>> 
>>>> Since there is nothing in the submission that suggests that, I have to ask, did you read it?
>>>> 
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