[governance] WGEC: Questionnaire on internet governance

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

I do agree the bestbits statement is more nuanced - but its actual recommendations might need considerable tuning.

I still look for actual participation in the existing icann governance structures rather than starting off with an attempt to reject them and produce something that will end up functionally identical to bringing ICANN under UN control.

The IT for change responses are as adam says.

--srs (iPad)

On 29-Aug-2013, at 16:37, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

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> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> Perhaps he was referring to the statement Parminder is sending around looking for support.  It is perhaps confusing having two statements in circulation: one by the Best Bits and one by Parminder who is a participant in both the Best Bits collective and a member of the WGEC.
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> Yes, not so good when working group members are advising themselves in this way, multiple ways.  The IT for Change position makes many unsubstantiated claims, and again repeats that the Internet is a global commons, which it clearly is not (what's the point of engaging in honest debate on this list if ignored for the sake of some political doctrine?)  And bestbits, which I personally disagree with enough not to be able to support, but it much more thoughtful, but is also somewhat undermined by having WG members as authors.  Poor process.
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> Adam
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>> avri
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>> On 28 Aug 2013, at 06:57, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
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>>> On 27/08/2013, at 12:13 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
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>>>> On 27-Aug-2013, at 7:21, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Although the Caucus is a little fractured at the moment, Norbert and Sala might nevertheless wish to gauge the feeling of the Caucus towards signing on corporately.
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>>>> It would help gain broader consensus if the worst bits of that statement were removed.
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>>>> Bringing ICANN under UN oversight, really?  
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>>> Since there is nothing in the submission that suggests that, I have to ask, did you read it?
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