[governance] Internet as a commons/ public good

[Riaz K Tayob]

So glad someone asked :)

There are many types of Third Worldists, but there is a 
movement/network, rough ilk bandying together who variously have the 
method and analytic that 1) the categorisation is valid because it 
correctly describes the dialectic relationship of the violence 
(structuralist and otherwise) of the relationship between the first and 
third worlds (including now much of the second world), 2) historical 
understanding of the current situation, and the need to seek a Just 
World Under Law (as opposed to a World Under Law) - hence 'full spectrum 
engagement' ( radical and reform, that may seem contradictory to the 
untrained eye); and 3) serves as an organising principle. It is not to 
be dogmatically affirmed in all circumstances, and does not preclude 
other forms of analytic categories such as gender, sexual orientation, 
class. Its limitations are well known, not least the collaboration of 
people from the third world with that of the first - but that is a 
truism, because when has domination been sustained without 
collaboration, eh?

 From my rough assessment yes the Third Worldist groups I link with take 
legitimacy issues very seriously, especially since the post-colonial 
condition has not meant independence and suffers from major 
international constraints that influence 'rough' local politics.

Not sure what you mean by 2nd of 4th wayists... the ebb and tide of 
currents on this list changes, but over years it is possible to discern 
some trends, but these are so fluid it is hard to keep track as 
circumstances change also. It would be so nice to have some alternatives 
instead of the lowest common denominator consensus building... it has 
been a torrid relationship and Norbert has at least set a tone for some 
further exploration, not least helped by Curran, Roland, and others who 
weigh in in ways that enable some greater scope for discussion...

So, like a ladder, its up and down...



On 2013/04/26 02:30 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> On 26 Apr 2013, at 03:16, Riaz K Tayob wrote:
>
>> Third Worldists
>
> don't think I am one of those either.
> not sure i know what it is.
>
> are Third Worldists and One Rooters in opposition?
> Can someone explain that?
>
> do we have any 2nd Wayist
> or 4th Optionists in the mix?
>
> thanks
>
> avri
>
>


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