[governance] abuse by the coordinator

[Adam Peake]

here we go...

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:24 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> Milton of course has a long long history of over the top ad hominems,
> personal attacks, collective attacks etc.etc.
>
> Most of the time folks just shrug it off as Milton being Milton doing
> Miltonisms... Yes, for those new to the list, we on the IGC even have a
> (semi-affectionate/semi-derisive) name for them...
>
> Sometimes people object and react and the behaviours disappear for a while
> only to reimerge in later perhaps less guarded moments. And of course, he is
> a very valuable member of the discussion when he moderates his rhetoric and
> he clearly isn't a troll interfering with the flow of the discussion as some
> whose name we won't mention but whose absence has allowed for useful
> discussion to reemerge on this list.
>

Exactly the kind of mealy-mouthed cowardly attack that so divides this list.

Adam





> It is a wee bit po-faced for Milton to respond as though the admonition from
> the co-coordinator had to with his useful if contentious attack appended to
> the co-coordinator's message rather than to his earlier Miltonisms in
> responding in an over the top manner to Parminder's contributions concerning
> the definition issues (I believe it was...
>
> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Lee W McKnight
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:01 AM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; McTim; Milton L Mueller
> Subject: RE: [governance] abuse by the coordinator
>
> Hi,
>
> As everyone just saw, Milton's advocacy for one position did not stop me
> from posting a different view. Hence Milton's expression demonstrably did
> not stop the ongoing list discussion.
>
> On the other hand, achieving the right balance of -coordinating - an IGC
> discussion; and asserting/inserting one's own views, is frankly something
> the current co-co's are still learning.  In my my ever-humble opinion. (And
> of course I hope no offense is taken Norbert, since none is meant.)
>
> Personally, rather than elevating all this in to yet another instance of the
> IGC list discussion meandering into one more endless internal process
> discussion, I hope Norbert and Milton agree to virtually shake hands and say
> oops never mind.
>
> And then we can get back to our regularly scheduled random discussions.
>
> Hey I can dream right? : )
>
> Lee
> ________________________________________
> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of McTim
> [dogwallah at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:38 AM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller
> Subject: Re: [governance] abuse by the coordinator
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>> Dear colleagues:
>> I forward this message to the list so that you can see your coordinator in
> action.
>
> <snip>
>
>> This is an attempt to suppress discussion. It is Norbert who is acting as
> the bully here. This is unacceptable. I call upon members of this list to
> protest this arbitrary and biased action.
>
>
> Agreed it is an unacceptable attempt to suppress a valid perspective.
>
> I note this is not the first instance of this in the last month or so.
>
> I am happy to protest.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>
>
>
>
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