[governance] US House Bill to Affirm the Policy of the United States Regarding Internet Governance
Gene Kimmelman
genekimmelman at gmail.com
Wed Apr 17 08:57:19 EDT 2013
>From someone who has focused on legislation for almost 30 years, maybe the
better take away from all of this is to be careful about characterizations
of legislation that is under review and subject to amendment. It doesn't
change the arguments that can be made about implications for policy, but
possibly the tone and conclusive suggestions about something that is
subject to change?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
> Jeremy:****
>
> By now you should be aware that the bill was amended to remove the clause
> about opposing “government control of the Internet.” This suggests to me
> that you are wrong about it being bogus. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Faced with a choice between articulating a global public policy principle
> that could be used to challenge some of the US government’s own special
> powers and gutting the bill so that it only contains an anodyne expression
> of support for “the multistakeholder model,” the U.S. congress chose the
> latter. ****
>
> ** **
>
> I’ll blog on this topic in more detail, but to me their need to delete it
> due to the concerns expressed by Rep. Eshoo bolsters my feeling that it was
> a good principle. ****
>
> ** **
>
> The analogy with the USSR (or Chinese) constitution is quite bogus,
> however, because there was no freedom of expression in USSR so public
> advocacy could not call attention to the contradiction between the
> principle and the reality. In the U.S. that would not be the case. ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:
> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Malcolm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:15 PM
> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] US House Bill to Affirm the Policy of the
> United States Regarding Internet Governance****
>
> ** **
>
> On 16/04/13 23:10, Milton L Mueller wrote:****
>
> ****
>
> *[Milton L Mueller] By “ignored” you mean that Rep. Walden refused to
> modify his principle to make an exception for U.S. forms of control. Which
> is all to the good. The principle stands.*****
>
> ...
>
> ****
>
> *[Milton L Mueller] I think the bill provides a good principle to guide
> that “unfinished work.” You know, or should know, that most of the
> countries pushing for “enhanced cooperation” want governments to assume a
> greater role in making and enforcing “public policy” for the global
> internet. ... Remember that “WSIS Principles” under the TA means that
> governments are the primary source of Internet public policy, and the rest
> of us provide “input” which they may utilize as they see fit. So we truly
> NEED a statement of the principle that IG should not lead to “government
> control of the internet.” Tell me again why you oppose that? *****
>
>
> Because from this source, it is bogus. It's like the old constitution of
> the USSR which said things like "citizens of the USSR are guaranteed
> freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly, meetings, street
> processions and demonstrations". The meaning that it bears on its face is
> so palpably at variance with the way it is applied that to say is little
> more than an insult. The only good point I can see about this is that it
> will highlight how bald-faced is the US government's hypocrisy on control
> of the Internet, but it was pretty apparent already anyway.****
>
> -- ****
>
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