[governance] US House Bill to Affirm the Policy of the United States Regarding Internet Governance

[Roland Perry]

In message 
<CAOLD2+Y2HG5xLTjJ-7LzXg+ZLoYekAKiVPhV7EOTnpmLrHc=YA at mail.gmail.com>, at 
17:35:50 on Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Andrea Glorioso <andrea at digitalpolicy.it> 
writes
>Roland,
>My question was meant to have a slightly different objective than
>assessing what is seen as legitimate or not, although this is also an
>element.

I was trying hard not to pre-empt whether the activities I listed were 
in fact legitimate, rather I was picking [one small] area of "Internet" 
policy where I hope people can see that there are a *range* of issues to 
be addressed, and that you can't (eg) put all VoIP issues into one box 
and accept or deny "government control" of either "none of them" or "all 
of them". Each aspect needs a debate of its own.

Some might not even agree that all three aspects of my example are 
*Internet* Governance.

>I'm more interested in understanding who is supposed to enforce laws.

Whichever agencies have those laws within their remit. Which is often a 
domestic agency, but might be an international one.

And a tricky question from me: If people who uphold the law are 
potentially not a legitimate stakeholder, what about the people who 
break the law? [Who could be individuals, corporations and even 
sometimes governments]

R.

>Best,
>Andrea
>On Saturday, April 13, 2013, Roland Perry <roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:
>> In message <CAOLD2+bn6d3vqZDShzUH=70zbbEQjk6j=
>c6aAjOROBVArLDEjQ at mail.gmail.com>, at 13:56:01 on Sat, 13 Apr 2013,
>Andrea Glorioso <andrea at digitalpolicy.it> writes
>>
>>> How can be governments / public authorities be "one of the
>stakeholders" when enforcing existing laws?
>>>
>>> It's not a trick question, although it might be a tricky one.
>>
>> It all depends what is meant by "The Internet".
>>
>> Let's take an example: If a government outlawed VoIP within its
>borders, and required ISPs to block it, that would most likely be the
>kind of control which would draw disapproval from a wide audience.
>>
>> But if a government approached a VoIP provider and said "by law we
>require you record identities of subscribers, and *today* we require
>you to divulge the identity of *this* subscriber, because either (a)
>his house is apparently on fire and he couldn't tell the emergency
>operator what the address was; or (b) a call from that number triggered
>an explosive device, and we wish to investigate whether he is the
>perpetrator"; then perhaps such control would draw a greater degree of
>general approval.
>>
>> And halfway in between, should a government be allowed to control
>what telephone numbers are assigned, by the supplier, to VoIP
>subscribers, so that they are globally unique and not already in use by
>a completely different telco's subscriber?
>> --
>> Roland Perry
>>
>>
>
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