[governance] When will ACTA II be fought out ?

Mon Sep 10 04:41:01 EDT 2012

Currently the TPP negotiations, the 14th round is being held in Leesburg,
Virginia from September 6-15, 2012 .

Today is the day allocated for those who have registered to take part in
the Stakeholders discussions. You had to register to participate. You can
visit: http://www.ustr.gov/tpp to access highlights and overviews and
actual FTAs. It has been reported from other news sources that His
Excellency B. Obama wants to conclude the TPP by this year's end.

There is an interesting article by Gordon Campbell, see:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1209/S00040/gordon-campbell-on-apec-and-its-significance-for-tpp-talks.htm

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks for this... informative and very useful links...
>
> I was hoping that middle class America would realise that ONE of the
> principle means that "good jobs" are lost is through the
> internationalisation of intellectual property rights... but Ihave no idea
> what passes for progressives or how issues come to light in these societies
> so your take is not only useful, but also puts forward some grounds for
> common interests...
>
> It is a pity that more was not done to raise the issue of conflation of
> domain names and trade marks...
>
> Just as a side issue, the close affiliation of govt and telecoms companies
> also had a material/technological basis - with fibre optics, govt needed to
> be at the telecom HQs (but I may be wrong)... and with the Bush
> retrospective legalisation - well that is about the worst thing in legal
> terms... retrospectivity...
>
> On 2012/09/10 11:01 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:
>
> Hi Riaz,
>
> Why I think this is the case ?
>
> It takes a bit of revisiting some history to set the scene. Who remembers,
> or has forgotten, the ATT-NSA spying net story between 2002 and 2005 ?
>
> You can glance through:
>
> https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/presskit/ATT_onepager.pdf
> http://cryptogon.com/?p=877
>
> In a nutshell, an ATT technician discovers in 2002 that the whole ATT
> backbone traffic (phone, voice, data, web) is mirrored illegally to NSA.
> Once retired in 2005 he talks to newspapers, and after much effort gets an
> article in the NYT. EFF files a class action lawsuit against ATT. The Bush
> admin moves to kill the case, calling the State secret exception. Once
> Obama elected the new admin legalizes retroactively NSA's spying, and
> declares immune from prosecution all phone companies involved in tapping.
>
> Ergo, Bush or Obama, same tricks. Whatever is illegal becomes legal if the
> president says so. A first step into dictatorship ?
>
> The US is no exception. Many governments have deployed illegal and secret
> mass surveillance systems. Their motivation is primarily controlling
> political opponents. Their natural allies (and financial donators) are
> marketing organisations eager to know everything on everybody, i.e.
> controlling consumers.
>
> If admins need justifications with their parliament (to get a budget) they
> conjure up terrorism, pedophilia, child protection, obscenity, social
> disorder, religion, IPR, what have you. It's the sort of decor adequate for
> painting spying as a public protection acceptable by the population or the
> political opposition, if any.
>
> During the GW Bush admin the first three were the excuse. Now those
> slogans have lost emotional drive. IPR is the new excuse, supported by the
> republican opposition and their media lobbies, working on more drastic laws
> to protect their revenues. Since the market is international the US has to
> coax other countries to get on the bandwagon and adopt similar legal
> provisions, .. thus similar control systems (a bonanza for the US
> surveillance industry), and an easy way for NSA to collect other countries
> data.
>
> Apparently this is part of what's going on under the TPP umbrella. It
> should be easier for the US to maneuver this limited coalition than the
> rest of the world.
>
> Last July general Keith Alexander, NSA's head, became Cyber Command's
> Commander. You can google his recent declarations and interviews. He is
> dead set on security (read spying). It seems DHS was not good enough, as
> Cyber Command (read NSA) is now to coordinate all US departments for
> securing ALL networks (read domestic and abroad). Ok, he may have a dream.
>
> All that leaves little else to be interpreted other than a determination
> to build a worldwide mass surveillance system centered in USA. IPR and
> other opportunistic lures serve as negotiation jokers for aggregating
> lobbies and other governments in the gang.
>
> It will be quite interesting to observe what approach will be taken with
> China, India, Russia, and EU. ACTA 2012 won't be forgotten any time soon.
> New convincing arguments for IPR will sound deja vu. The prospect of US
> controlled mass surveillance will look as attractive as a scarecrow. Then,
> what else US can offer ? Probably rude arm twisting, a not unusual tactic
> in real politics.
>
> I just read that EFF is up against TPP. Resistance goes on.
>
> Cheers, Louis
> - - -
>
> More on the subject
> http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/SER_klein_decl.pdf
> http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/SER_marcus_decl.pdf
> *  The two previous documents were on the web for several years, and have
> vanished recently
> *https://www.eff.org/issues/nsa-spying
> https://www.eff.org/nsa/faq
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy>
> NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy>
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/one-us-corporations-role-_b_815281.html
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/01/obama-sides-wit/
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Klein
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/07/AR2007110700006_pf.html
> http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/05/70944
> http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/05/kleininterview
>
> http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/01/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-klein-author-of-wiring-up-the-big-brother-machine/
> http://www.mainheadlinenews.com/video/qrBapXsLcro
> http://www.technewsworld.com/story/60204.html
> http://osdir.com/ml/culture.war.guerrelec/2006-04/msg00040.html
>
> http://www.dailytech.com/ATT+Accidentally+Leaks+Incriminating+NSA+Info/article2558.htm
>
> http://www.spamdailynews.com/publish/Bush_administration_to_intervene_in_ATT_surveillance_case.asp
>
> http://www.infowars.com/att-whistleblower-spy-bill-creates-%E2%80%98infrastructure-for-a-police-state%E2%80%99/
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=74c_1243652643&c=1
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/nsa-denies-wired/
>
> - - -
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why do you think this is the case?
>>
>> On 2012/09/07 03:34 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:
>>
>>> But whatever happens in November, the next USG is unlikely to change
>>> policy on IPR. Watch out.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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