[governance] ITRs

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

So old wine in a lovely new bottle

--srs (iPad)

On 31-Oct-2012, at 2:52, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx> wrote:

> Suresh,
> 
> with variations, mabye, but it's been around since the dawn of (IP address) history, and it was noisier in WSIS times when Houlin Zhao, then ITU SG, touted it. Proven wrong then and earlier and later and on it will go. 
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> Desde: Suresh Ramasubramanian [suresh at hserus.net]
> Enviado el: martes, 30 de octubre de 2012 15:16
> Hasta: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; David Conrad
> Asunto: Re: [governance] ITRs
> 
> An extension of that would be "countries should themselves allocate IP addresses to their local businesses and citizens and not have to source them from an rir like ripe, arin, apnic etc.
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> Something that has been going on for a very long time indeed, I remember this position as before the first Athens igf as well and far predating it
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> --srs (htc one x)
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> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx>
> To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, "David Conrad" <drc at virtualized.org>
> Subject: [governance] ITRs
> Date: Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:09 PM
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> 
> David, Karl, all, 
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> ________________________________________
> Desde: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de David Conrad [drc at virtualized.org]
> Enviado el: martes, 30 de octubre de 2012 09:48
> Hasta: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Asunto: Re: [governance] ITRs
> 
> Karl,
> 
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Karl Auerbach <karl at cavebear.com> wrote:
> > The idea of "State control over Internet routing system" makes my head spin.
> [much accurate stuff deleted]
> 
> I suspect this is policy wonk code for national-level control/administration of RPKI/BGPSEC.
> 
> AP: Not in more than a couple countries IMO. Far less sophisticated. Stuff like "IP addresses are alphanumeric identifiers, therefore they should be under national numbering plan" kinda. Memories of a decade or decade and a half but some never noticed when that ship left the port. The mirage still blinds them.
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> Alejandro Pisanty
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> Regards,
> -drc
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