[governance] Interesting story of the never ending ICANN Conflict of Interest. This time on .africa?

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Sigh. OK, let us wait for who finally gets .africa 

Meanwhile, in that circleid post, "so called", "chicanery" ... The usual tirade I see.

--srs (iPad)

On 25-Oct-2012, at 22:43, Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Suresh Ramasubramanian,
>  
> Of course, the sentiments that you have conveyed in your posting below shows that you remain disrespectful of DCA.   This is quite unfair and absolutely unjustified on your part. You have not given yourself the chance to really understand DCA's side of the story.  I recall DCA and others arguing endlessly with you on CircleID in the comments section of the Blog posting (Re: http://www.circleid.com/posts/is_africa_ready_for_a_dotafrica_gtld_future/) that was posted by me at the time, when I was just a fan of DCA.
>  
> First, you claim that DCA shot itself in the foot by bidding for the wrong TLD.  Nothing could be farther from the truth. You are probably not aware that ICANN already approved DCA's Change Request regarding the gTLD string name applied-for.   Therefore, ICANN now officially recognizes DCA Trust as an applicant for the .Africa string name, so DCA has not applied for the wrong TLD as you have erroneously stated in your posting.
>  
> Second, if you claim that this issue will have to be seen "from the prism of dueling commercial interests", then it would be good for everyone to patiently wait for the Initial and Final Evaluation results of the applications to be announced by ICANN.  On what basis would you now be favouring one commercial interest over another?  Is it fair or legitimate for a "commercial interest" to claim that it has the endorsement of the African Union Commission to apply on behalf of the African Community, but then submits an application to ICANN that does not even acknowledge this same Community that it claims to support it?  Perhaps it would be necessary for you to look through your prism again.
>  
> Third, you blame DCA for launching extremely vitriolic campaign against anybody at all they saw as opposed to their interests. Please note that DCA has fully explained why it had to engage on the 'No Campaigns', and that is now in the past. Everyone has already moved on.
>  
> Finally, stating that one has lost is similar to the misleading notions contained in the Domainincite article that you have referred to. I would also like to refer you to DCA's official response to the writer of that Domainincite blog. http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs053/1102516344150/archive/1110608545772.html,  or perhaps what other bloggers also think of his opinion, you so value http://domainingafrica.com/i-will-win-africa-because-i-have-friends-in-high-places-case-of-conflicted-board-members/    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and calling the results of the application prematurely based on the fact that you do not like DCA is quite subjective. 
>  
> You may recall that at the time you claimed that DCA did not impress you,  UniForum had not even shown any interest to apply for .Africa at that time. Therefore, your really have no justification for being against DotConnectAfrica Trust.
>  
> Finally, you may not want to miss this latest clarification on circleid, to sort out the  same confusion you and the author DCA is replying to, on the declaration of Victory, that seem to be limited by Prism sphere. http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121024_icann_africa_strategy_is_not_the_same_as_the_african_agenda/
>  
> Thanks.  
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> Replying to an email of Riaz Tayob's - posted in the archives -
>> 
>> As far as I can see dotconnectafrica shot themselves in their own foot by first 
>> bidding for the wrong TLD, and then launching an extremely vitriolic attack
>> campaign against anybody at all they saw as opposed to their interests.
>> 
>> This on circleid for example was the first I heard of this group and their 
>> campaign, and it failed to impress me right at the start.
>> 
>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/is_africa_ready_for_a_dotafrica_gtld_future/ 
>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121008_icann_africa_strategy_a_new_approach_to_africa/ 
>> 
>> Anything at all more on this issue will have to be seen from the prism of 
>> dueling commercial interests, one of which has apparently lost out but is still
>> aggressively claiming victory.
>> 
>> This article says it all - 
>> http://domainincite.com/9802-dotconnectafrica-disconnected-from-reality 
>> 
>> thanks 
>> --srs
>> 
>> On 2012/10/12 04:11 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote: 
>> 
>> > the claims are vague enough to be consistent with "one more turn of the 
>> > extortion screw",
>> 
>> Whatever does this mean? 
>> 
>> 
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