[governance] CS Speakers for Baku

Mawaki Chango kichango at gmail.com
Wed Oct 31 18:09:48 EDT 2012 

Hi,

... Still, I'm not sure I understand the process that got us
nominating people and end up with a name that was never mentioned here
(this is nothing personal). Were there other CS groups that had been
running the same nomination process? Is this at the discretion of the
Secretariat? And what happens now to the idea of collectively prepared
discourse or talking points, and to Milton's good start on that?

Just asking.

mawaki

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Nnenna <nne75 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I think Carlos and Valentina make a great pair.
>
> Cheers
>
> N
>
>
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>
> To: william.drake at uzh.ch; glaser at cgi.br
> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
>
> :)
>
>
>
>
> Carlos A. Afonso
>
> William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> escreveu:
> My apologies to Carlos, I cut and paste from someone else's email
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:
>
>
> Correct name is => Carlos Alberto Afonso ...
>
> ==========================================
> On 31/10/12 17:04, William Drake wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> The secretariat has invited Carlos Alfonso for the opening session and
> Valentina Pellizzer for the closing session.
>
> Bill
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> Sorry for not following this up earlier. Just too many things to do.
>
> Though I said we may run a poll, I guess Carlos is already our de facto
> speaker,
> and Nnnena seems to have received good support and fulfills the gender
> balance
> and also from developing region.
>
> And as Ginger rightly suggested both speakers will take up the talking
> points
> into their text, with some degree of, of course, their own words to be
> added.
>
> May I ask you if this is our rough consensus?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> izumi
>
>
>
>
>
> 2012/10/11 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>:
>
> it's what they're sending registrants
>
> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Katy P wrote:
>
> What? When did this happen?
>
> On Oct 11, 2012 8:24 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>
> In light of the host country's jaw dropping decision to publicly
> disseminate all participants' passport numbers, I hope whoever we have
> speaking in the opening an closing will emphasize the centrality of personal
> privacy protection in Internet governance.
>
> Best
>
> Bill
>
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Nnenna wrote:
>
> +1 On each of the points below.  I am currently in the Côte d'Ivoire
> Internet Governance Forum and my drafting capacity is limited.  However, I
> would like to see a line that extends "Multistakeholderism" down to active
> national participation of all stakeholders. AFAIK, in as much as in some
> countries, the government is weighing in, in ways that may appear
> overbearing, in others, the decision-makers are actually note interested or
> think it is an NGO thing.
>
> Can we have a "Development Agenda" paragraph? I am also thinking that
> "Participation" may also need to be a paragraph of its own
>
> Best
>
> Nnenna
>
>
>
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>   |  Consultants
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>
> ________________________________
> From: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
> To: 'Ginger Paque' <ginger at paque.net>; "governance at lists.igcaucus.org"
> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
>
>
> From: gpaque at gmail.com [mailto:gpaque at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ginger Paque
>
> I think that both points are important... I would say 'in addition to' not
> 'rather than'. Whom we choose sends a signal as sometimes as significant as
> their words, and we tend to know their general positions as well as speaking
> abilities when we nominate them.
>
> Ginger and colleagues:
> Yes, of course it is "in addition to" not "rather than" - but has there
> been any substantive discussion yet? Frankly I think what they say is more
> important than who we choose, but agree that in some cases "the medium is
> the message."  At any rate we are long on "who" and rather short on "what"
> at the moment, so…
>
> let me throw out three short statements on issues that I passionately
> believe should be addressed. In doing so, I will make an attempt to address
> them in a way that takes into account the differences among us and hope
> others do so in the same spirit. Other candidate topics would include IPR,
> development…I defer to others there.
>
> Human rights
> CS believes that the absence of gatekeepers and the open, global
> communication enabled by the Internet realizes the promise of Article 19 of
> the UN UDHR. To erect (national) legal barriers to the free flow of
> information is a bad idea and contrary to the individual human right to
> freedom of expression. We therefore oppose efforts to create "national
> Internets," or to block and filter internet access in ways that deny
> individuals access to applications, content and services of their choice.
> All attempts to deem certain forms of communication and information illegal
> and remove them must follow established, transparent processes of law and
> should not involve prior restraint.
>
> Security and Securitization
> CS opposes efforts to militarize the Internet, or any actions that would
> foster a destructive and wasteful cyber arms race among governments and/or
> private actors. We consider the surreptitious use of exploits and malware
> for surveillance or attacks to be criminal regardless of whether they are
> deployed by governments, private corporations or organized criminals. We are
> skeptical of efforts to subordinate the design and use of information and
> communication technology to "national security" agendas. We believe that
> Internet security will be achieved primarily at the operational level and
> that national security and military agendas often work against rather than
> for users' security needs.
>
> Multistakeholderism
> Global governance institutions should not be restricted to states, so CS
> welcomes the additional participation in global policy making that
> multi-stakeholder processes provide. But CS cautions that multi-stakeholder
> participation is not an end in itself.  Opening up global governance
> institutions to additional voices from civil society and business does not
> by itself ensure that individual rights are adequately protected or that the
> best substantive policies are developed and enforced. In the informal spaces
> created by MS institutions, it is possible that powerful governmental and
> corporate actors can make deals contrary to the interests of Internet users.
> MS processes must incorporate and institutionalize concepts of due process,
> separation of powers and user's inalienable civil and political rights.
>
> Milton L. Mueller
> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
> Internet Governance Project
> http://blog.internetgovernance.org
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