[governance] Indian Express on privacy

[Fahd A. Batayneh]

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Fahd
On Nov 25, 2012 3:31 AM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:

> Sorry?  How do their local ISPs benefit from peering with a western
> country when they don't peer locally?
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> On 24-Nov-2012, at 21:14, "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Would say that it is true for developed countries, but not for developing
> and least developed where some benefit (financially) from peering to
> Western countries.
>
> Fahd
> On Nov 24, 2012 5:16 PM, "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh <
>> fahd.batayneh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh <
>>>> fahd.batayneh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While I do have Facebook and Twitter accounts, I have not accessed any
>>>>> of them for quite a long time, and I do not use them. This is what one can
>>>>> expect when posting personal data online. However, if we look at things
>>>>> differently, who is not exposed (Internet users)? All our Internet traffic
>>>>> passes through the various Tier-1 ISPs in the USA and EU
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ALL, is a pretty strong statement.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we can exclude local traffic passing via IXPs or maybe within the
>>> same network, and maybe very sensitive data that move across the same
>>> Intranet, or maybe traffic that moves within censorship-driven countries.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any evidence for it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No one has evidence about either scenario (everything is monitored vs.
>>> something is monitored vs. nothing is monitored). But would you disagree
>>> that Internet traffic moving overseas does have to pass at access points
>>> based in Western countries?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes. There are major CDN nodes and IXPs where Tier1s (and Tier2s and 3s)
>> peer around the globe.  Your traffic does not have to go to US/EU.  In fact
>> it does not even have to transit a Tier1 provider.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> , and some of them might want to inspect traffic randomly as measures
>>>>> of "National Security".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> None of them "want to", as it would impact business of passing packets.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not really. Business is one aspect of the story, but national interests
>>> is another (especially Western countries that keep using the term "War on
>>> Terror").
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Then that would be a "MUST" not a "WANT".
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
>> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>>
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