[governance] Google's Fight the ITU/WCIT website

Sun Nov 25 01:31:02 EST 2012

Well said Alejandro.

Fahd
On Nov 25, 2012 8:14 AM, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx>
wrote:

>  Tim,
>
>  maybe the document you are pointing at is
> http://files.wcitleaks.org/public/Retreat2012.pdf which is the leaflet
> distributed to participants in a meeting earlier this year. It describes in
> detail what the ITU perceives as the battle around the ITRs as "US vs. us."
>
>  Much of the ITU's media thrust can be found in the Twitter stream of
> Sarah Parkes, the ITU's media person, http://twitter.com/sarahparkesitu, which
> has pointers to the press articles they like. They are pitching things as a
> business catfight between Google and similar US companies vs. the "Internet
> ecosystem" as understood for example in the South Korean submission at
> http://www.itu.int/ml/lists/nomenu/arc/wcit-public/2012-11/msg00012.html well
> described in
> http://www.key4biz.it/News/2012/11/20/Policy/wcit12_itrs_korea_telecom_213952.html (in
> Italian), which uses even more colorful language than the ETNO's "sending
> party network pays", "beneficiary traffic generator pays."
>
>  More press from the ITU tends to point to resources of the ITU itself on
> education, cybersecurity, health, etc. which quickly come to dead ends such
> as a big fuss, documents, and meetings which in the end fizzle down to
> "helping countries cooperate with other entities", i.e. hand-holding adults
> to meet the IETF, ICANN, CERTs, RIRs, APWG, and so many others.
>
>  I think many of us have studied the WCIT documents, press releases, etc.
> seriously, to the best of our knowledge and in consultation with both ISOC,
> ICANN, etc. experts and with ITU old hands (that is my case at least; one
> of them chairs an ITU group to rewrite the Constitution) and have reached
> our own, independent conclusions.
>
>  Mine is that we can peel off the commercial disputes and still find
> enough reasons for concern in the proposals before WCIT that can throw sand
> in the gearbox or even try to hijack the ongoing Internet revolution, and
> that we must oppose them decisively.
>
>  The views expressed by the ITU spokespeople re transparency and access
> to the documents, as well as multistakeholder participation, are constantly
> denied by themselves. A stellar piece is one in which a pro-ITU writer
> sends you to read all WCIT documents... in Kieren McCarthy's dotnxtcon,
> which by the way is also available for paid subscribers only!
>
>  We will always have WCITLeaks.
>
>  Let me also underline that I do not subscribe the notion that "the UN is
> out to..." or opposing the UN as a whole in this process. That mantra is a
> great mobilizer in some countries, like the US, but I find it unfair and
> misguided, and also think that it causes unnecessary and unwarranted
> irritation among many who are both in favor of the UN in many ways and
> unfavorable to the proposed modifications of the ITRs. Vilifying the UN is
> not the way to go.
>
>  This in my view should find agreement from Louis Pouzin and Jean-Louis
> Fullsack, despite other important - philosophical and practical -
> differences.
>
>  A nuanced, objective, focussed analysis and strategy among dedicated
> people with more specialized knowledge may be at least as important as a
> simpler, massive campaign among a broader audience. That's where most of us
> should be.
>
>  Yours,
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
>
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> *Desde:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [
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> *Enviado el:* sábado, 24 de noviembre de 2012 22:41
> *Hasta:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Suresh Ramasubramanian
> *Asunto:* Re: [governance] Google's Fight the ITU/WCIT website
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <
> suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>
>> ITU view of Google's campaign
>>
>> http://itu4u.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/the-google-campaign-an-itu-view/
>>
>>
>  and the thinking behind that statement:
>
>
>  https://www.google.nl/search?q=itu+retreat+wcit&oq=itu+retreat+wcit
>
>  click on the 2nd link and then "Quick View" in order to see the document.
>
>  All ironies recognised!
>
>  --
>  Cheers,
>
> McTim
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