[governance] Google's Fight the ITU/WCIT website

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

I would agree with what you say if, and only if, the other side does not have politics confused with policy.   If they're playing politics, then it will simply not be possible to engage in a constructive debate.  Likewise if the discussion is held in a politically charged atmosphere.

Anyway that's my absolute last post on this thread.  My next post is going to be on something that's puzzling me considerably .. India's position in the WCIT - their DoT position (as expressed officially in their WCIT submission) and some statements made by Minister Sibal, quoted in a newspaper article today morning.

--srs (iPad)

On 23-Nov-2012, at 12:08, Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:47:28AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (suresh at hserus.net) wrote:
> 
>> Sir, when responding to any discussion, it is important to consider
>> motivations that people have when making points, in order to address
>> any points that are made.
> 
> I must disagree here. It is often much better to explicitly ignore
> even obvious motivations and hidden agendas and respond only to
> the arguments explicitly made, following Socrates' dictum that
> the value of an argument does not depend on who said it -
> even though we of course know that in politics the opposite is
> usually closer to the truth. But in politics rhetorics trumps
> logic, there's rarely any real argumentation in public.
> 
> But sticking to the point, to what is actually said, avoiding
> reading between the lines, tends to keep discussion more civil
> and constructive. Analyzing other people's motives in a debate
> generally makes sense only if you want to impress the audience
> rather than find a solution to the issue at hand.
> 
> -- 
> Tapani Tarvainen
> 
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