[governance] Google's Fight the ITU/WCIT website

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Thu Nov 22 23:51:28 EST 2012


Yes.  And my point has been to decry the use of propaganda methods in civil society discourse  about internet governance, by attacking the motives of other stakeholders rather than addressing the points that they have raised so far.

I haven't yet seen you pointing that out to Parminder, though doubtless you've done so "offlist".

You have made your point.  I have made mine.  Now, let us end this thread.

--srs (iPad)

On 23-Nov-2012, at 9:17, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Suresh,
> 
> The point is this. You can discuss things concerning Internet Governance. Your postings were off topic and as moderator and as a co-coordinator, I am exercising my discretion to notify you. 
> 
> Any other postings to you in relation to this matter will soon be offlist.
> 
> Sala
> 
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> I am sorry but I will still emphatically reject your understanding of what I posted
>> 
>> For the last time, I did not apply that epithet to anyone and my sole intention has been to decry the widespread use of propaganda as a tactic unsuitable to civil society organizations. 
>> 
>> --srs (htc one x)
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
>> To: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>
>> Cc: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>> Subject: [governance] Google's Fight the ITU/WCIT website
>> Date: Fri, Nov 23, 2012 9:03 AM
>> 
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> The reprimand was to serve as a warning to those who posted and also to
>> those who are  participating and is based on the nature of the derogatory
>> comments/attacks that were made.
>> 
>> There are participants on this list who have received numerous warnings in
>> private from me on occasion and the matter was sorted/settled.
>> 
>> The nature of the derogatory attack was too vulgar that it required a
>> public remand so that a clear message is sent to the list on how to conduct
>> oneself on the list.
>> 
>> The matter being discussed has to relate to Internet Governance and I do
>> not apologise for my stance.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Sala
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:34 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > *Sala,*
>> 
>> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
>> > salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Suresh,
>> >>
>> >> Please refrain from using words like "Nazi" on this list.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't think that IGC coordinators get to proclaim that there are words
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>> >
>> > One of the very first IG cases was about the online sale of Nazi
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>> >
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>> 
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> 
> -- 
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> 
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