RES: [governance] Vint Cerf OpEd in the New York Times: "Keep the Internet Open"
Vanda UOL
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Sun May 27 19:12:36 EDT 2012
HI Sergio, I tried to enter and apply to see if I wll get authorization to
enter. Kke you psoted. Thank you for your points.
All the best,
Vanda Scartezini
Nominating Committee Chair
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[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] Em nome de Sérgio Alves Jr.
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 25 de maio de 2012 13:15
Para: Adam Peake; governance at lists.igcaucus.org
Assunto: Re: [governance] Vint Cerf OpEd in the New York Times: "Keep the
Internet Open"
Adam,
The other day, someone mentioned that UAE represents its civil society
before the ITU. I'm not so so arrogant to affirm I represent the whole
Brazilian one there.
I'm not sure whether I or my country would be penalized at the ITU if every
document we have access to was made public here or some other forum. I have
tried that before, and someone from this list said I should not do it.
The ITU TIES account (http://www.itu.int/TIES/) is managed by focal points
from each Member State, according to the country's own policy. Once you have
it, you can access anything that is free (except for some publications that
are sold even for governments).
In Brazil, the policy is guaranteeing access to anyone who identifies
herself as a "brasileira" at the application form
(http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/mm/scripts/reg.screen1.html?_languageid=1).
One does not need to be from gov or telecom sector.
In this sense, CS should go after its own country focal points, and ask for
clarification on their policy.
This is not enough, I'm sure. I believe CS does not have to express itself
through the voice of a telecom regulator. We know that and we try to, but It
has been really difficult to find partners within the ITU in favor of
opening the Union's processes.
I cannot speak for the ITU membership, not even for Brazil, but if that
helps clarifying our strategy, these are the touchstones to guide our
participation at any ITU meeting or conference regarding Internet-related
public policy issues:
http://www.cgi.br/english/regulations/resolution2009-003.htm
My opion: forget about WCIT, it is already decided. Nothing is going to
chance.
The focus should be WTPF-13, WSIS+10 and PP-14. In the between, CWG-Internet
might shad some light on the oldie ITU.
Abraços,
Sérgio
2012/5/25 Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>
Rumors are the main problem, when there's a lack of information lobbying is
of course effective. The ITU gave a briefing on WCIT during the WSIS reviews
in Geneva last week. ITU Secretariat emphasized they wanted to be as open
and transparent as possible. A couple of sector members asked if they could
share the information they had access to with their members, if I remember
correctly the answer from the Secretariat was ask the ITU Council. Requests
for information were stonewalled. The presentation did not give any
information about the substance of what was being discussed (your email, a
couple of sentences, is more informative), but somewhat bizarrely it did
mention summary documents of the regional preparatory meetings and
submissions to date had been prepared. At least two people asked if those
documents could be made public, and the answer was a negative non-committal.
What was the point of mentioning the existence of the documents?
Sérgio, governments that care about the ITRs might do well to make sure
information is made available, or the ITRs are likely to end up in the same
place as ACTA, SOPA, and PIPA, etc. Look at ACTA, treaties don't seem to be
quite as certain as they recently were.
Of course the U.S. wants to make the ITRs as ineffectual as possible, and
the lack of information from others makes their lobbying all the more
effective.
Best,
Adam
WCIT has nothing to do with expanding ITU's mandate on the internet. Any
proposal in this sense is stillborn.
This OpEd adds zero to the ITRs debate. This is the kind of American
strategy that is killing the conference.
The real topics are international connectivity, accounting rules, finances.
Brazilian proposals, for instance, are focused on increasing transparency
and lowering international roaming rates (topics that many, including US,
don't agree to negotiate either).
The only thing I agree in the text is that civil society is kept unfairly
out the debate. Were SC in, there wouldn't be so many nonsense rumors like
this.
Abraços,
Sérgio Alves Jr
Em 25/05/2012 09:16, "Adam Peake"
<<mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp>ajp at glocom.ac.jp> escreveu:
Hamadoun Toure, May 1 speaking about WCIT:
"There are many important issues that may be addressed at WCIT, but I would
like to focus on one broader issue in particular: how do we ensure
sufficient investment in broadband network infrastructure?"
and
"And, the current ITRs are not properly equipped to deal with this challenge
either, which raises the question of how all this new infrastructure will be
paid for?"
and
"Everyone wants mobile broadband and the benefits it will bring. But few
seem willing to pay for it -- including both the over-the-top players, who
are generating vast new demand through their applications, and consumers,
who have become accustomed to unlimited packages."
<<http://www.itu.int/en/osg/speeches/Pages/2012-05-01.aspx>http://www.itu.in
t/en/osg/speeches/Pages/2012-05-01.aspx>
Hello Google, enter Vint :-)
Adam
Dear friends and colleagues,
I thought you would appreciate knowing that an OpEd by Vint Cerf as
above titled was printed today in the New York Times (and I believe
the IHT).
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/opinion/keep-the-internet-open.html?_r=1>
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/opinion/keep-the-internet-open.html?_r=1
--
Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart
Geneva Representative
Computer & Communications Industry Association
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