FW: [governance] Twitter officially shutdown to Internet users in Pakistan

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Wed May 23 10:45:43 EDT 2012


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Andrea Glorioso
<andrea at digitalpolicy.it> wrote:
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Andrea Glorioso
>> <andrea at digitalpolicy.it> wrote:
>>
>> > It is interesting you put the word "multilateralism" in quotes. Is this
>> > because you feel there isn't a broadly accepted (a "rough consensus"? :)
>> > notion of what "multilateralism" actually means, or because you feel
>> > that
>> > multilateralism it is per se incompatible with multi-stakeholderism
>>
>> neither.  I put it in quotes to point out that it was the only thing
>> on offer in this context.
>
>
> I'm not an expert in quotology, but I must say this is the strangest use of
> quotes I ever saw. :)
>
> Anyway, there are many forms of multilateralism, some of which may include
> more or less attention to multi-stakeholderism. It seems to me you are
> simplifying reality.


perhaps (not that there is anything wrong with that).

>
>>
>> I don't think IG should be multilateral at all.  I don't think the
>> CSIGC should roll over and play dead on this point.
>
>
> So I assume that for you "multi-lateralism" and "multi-stakeholderism" are
> mutually exclusive?

I think multilateralism leaves us outside the room, we did that at
WSIS.   MSHism gives us a seat at the table.


>
>>
>> If we do, then the IGC is no longer useful IMHO.
>
>
> I will not argue on this as I guess this is a decision for IGC members to
> take - perhaps by "humming"? (Yes, I'm being ironical, my apologies - I know
> the IGC has a rather sophisticated online voting system, which begs the
> question whether on strategic decision-making the IGC works mostly by "rough
> consensus" or by old-style voting).


If you scroll thru the archives, you will find I opposed the evoting
development on the
grounds that it makes gauging consensus too much like an election.

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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