[governance] Twitter officially shutdown to Internet users in Pakistan
Ginger Paque
ginger at paque.net
Mon May 21 06:43:13 EDT 2012
Congratulations--when multistakeholder situations are not automatic, civil
society is exercising its rights!
On 21 May 2012 06:10, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
> After the very large local and global outcry:
>
> Twitter.com restored in Pakistan by Government after domestic and
> global outcry against the blocking!
>
>
> http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/2012/05/twittercom-restored-in-pakistan-by.html
>
>
> Best
>
> Fouad
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:31 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
> <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:
> > Just FYI:
> >
> > When we disucssed access to documents for the forthcoming ITU-WCIT
> conference in Dubai in December 2012 during the recent WSIS Forum, the
> governmental representative of the United Arab Emirates argued that there
> is no need that Civil Society people have access to those documents. They
> are represented by their national governments. At least the UAE represent
> "their people" he said and he hopes that also other governments represent
> "their people". Good to know.
> >
> > I would be interested how the "Emirates Identity Authority", which
> distributed in Geneva a 200 page publication advertising its "ID Card"
> project, which has fingerprints and other biometric individual data,
> included the local civil society organisations in developing the policy for
> the ID card. The UAE ID Card is obviously a great project which represents
> - as the authority says - the highest standard in the world. When I was
> searching for provisions for individual data protection I was unable to
> find even the word "data protection" or "privacy" in the 200 page report. I
> would be indeed interested to find out how the UAE governmental
> representative, who claimed to represent his people, has consulted the
> individuals who will get the ID card, in the PDP and decision making
> process for the making of the ID card.
> >
> > http://www.eida.gov.ae/en/home.aspx
> >
> > Wolfgang
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von William Drake
> > Gesendet: Mo 21.05.2012 09:38
> > An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder
> > Betreff: Re: [governance] Twitter officially shutdown to Internet users
> in Pakistan
> >
> >
> > Hi Parminder
> >
> >
> > On May 20, 2012, at 6:03 PM, parminder wrote:
> >
> >
> > Bill, I too missed what exactly you are pointing to...
> >
> > However, since you are parodying the statement issued by IT for
> Change
> >
> >
> > Parodying? I quoted from the doc.
> >
> >
> > and others (and supported by 66 organisations and 117 other
> individuals), apropos Michael's email, I must direct your attention to the
> fact that the statement seeks such a global Internet body to act primarily
> on the basis of human rights.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sure, I know you have a strong human rights orientation, even if the
> sentence on CIR doesn't actually specify that. But I don't believe that's
> what most of the governments supporting multilateral "oversight" are
> looking for or would agree to. If one of them raises the point at
> tomorrow's CSTD meeting, why don't you ask them, that could be
> illuminating...
> >
> >
> >
> > Incidentally, even India's CIRP proposal, among its 7 listed
> functions has the following function: promotion and protection of all human
> rights, namely, civil, political, social, economic and cultural rights,
> including the Right to Development;
> >
> >
> >
> > Sure. BTW, since you've been working closely with the government on
> this, you must have info the rest of us lack. Could you clarify what
> India's current stance is viz. the CIRP proposal? I wanted to ask Mr.
> Govind but didn't get a chance. He was quoted in the press as saying
> they'd dropped it as "not well thought out;" is that accurate? My notes
> say the Indian statement Friday was that CIRP was a response to the Tunis
> Agenda but India wants to be pragmatic and flexible, have a debate without
> a fixed outcome, and favors a WG on EC, which is different. So are they
> still supporting the proposal, or no? Have any other governments ever
> expressed support for it?
> >
> >
> >
> > We all do know that governments do all kinds of things, do we
> therefore then refuse to agree to constitute them at all, and certainly
> refuse to vote.... Do you take and practise such an anarchic view with
> respect to your own national politics. If not, why so? One can easily
> construct many such parodies vis a vis the US government,and what it
> implies to vote in any government at all for governing the US.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anarchic? You're confusing me with Avri, maybe...?
> >
> >
> >
> > Why do such anarchic dispositions rise up only when global
> politics is concerned. Is it a fear by the rich parts of the world of
> having to share the undue benefits and advantages that they may be sitting
> on?
> >
> >
> >
> > The rich parts of the world (a couple billion people) aren't a singular
> actor with a singular preference for anarchy (?), but it's fair to say one
> doesn't hear many expressions of support from there for multilateral
> oversight of CIR. I don't believe the reasons for this can be fairly
> reduced to fear of sharing undue benefits and advantages, or that's it's
> obvious what that might mean in this context.
> >
> > See you tomorrow,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sunday 20 May 2012 08:33 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
> >
> > Quite honestly Bill, the actual meaning/logic of your (I
> think meant to be)
> > ironic comment escapes me (I read it four times and it
> still escapes me...
> >
> > (and by my reckoning had either or both of Iran and
> Pakistan signed on to
> > some global treaty about Internet Rights/rights on the
> Internet (or
> > something similar) it would I'm assuming, be even a wee
> bit more difficult
> > for the respectie governments to act in this high-handed
> way by for example,
> > giving those internally in opposition an international
> agreement to point
> > to/argue for before the courts; and also give those
> externally who disagree
> > with those actions some specific context for them to
> exercise their
> > disagreement; or have I missed something here.
> >
> > M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf
> Of William Drake
> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:39 AM
> > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> > Subject: Re: [governance] Twitter officially shutdown to
> Internet users in
> > Pakistan
> >
> >
> > On May 20, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Twitter officially shutdown in Pakistan - Twitter
> Banned in Pakistan
> >
> http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/2012/05/twitter-officially-shu
> > tdown-in-pakistan.html
> >
> >
> > If only "the oversight of the Internet's critical
> technical and logical
> > infrastructure" could be "transferred to an appropriate,
> democratic and
> > participative multilateral body" so that Pakistan would
> not be forced to
> > take unilateral action merely to shut out this evil
> monopolist that, with
> > three other sites, controls "much of what is considered
> to be the Internet
> > today by most people today".
> >
> >
> > On May 13, 2012, at 12:25 AM, michael gurstein wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > "The telecommunications minister has
> ordered the use of domain names
> > ending with .ir" belonging to Iran, Asr
> Ertebatat reported.
> >
> > The order prohibits banks, insurance
> firms and telephone firms using
> > foreign hosts for their sites or to
> inform their clients using foreign
> > providers such as Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail
> or MSN, it said.
> >
> >
> > If only "the oversight of the Internet's critical
> technical and logical
> > infrastructure" could be "transferred to an appropriate,
> democratic and
> > participative multilateral body" so that Iran would not
> be forced to take
> > unilateral action merely to shut out these evil
> monopolists...
> >
> > We demand it!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> > To be removed from the list, visit:
> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
> >
> > For all other list information and functions, see:
> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
> > http://www.igcaucus.org/
> >
> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> > To be removed from the list, visit:
> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
> >
> > For all other list information and functions, see:
> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
> > http://www.igcaucus.org/
> >
> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards.
> --------------------------
> Fouad Bajwa
> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor
> My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/
> Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> To be removed from the list, visit:
> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
>
> For all other list information and functions, see:
> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
> http://www.igcaucus.org/
>
> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.igcaucus.org/pipermail/governance/attachments/20120521/b580ef91/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
____________________________________________________________
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
governance at lists.igcaucus.org
To be removed from the list, visit:
http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
For all other list information and functions, see:
http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
http://www.igcaucus.org/
Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
More information about the Governance
mailing list