AW: [governance] reality check on economics

"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de
Sun May 20 12:01:50 EDT 2012


see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot
 
wolfgang

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Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Avri Doria
Gesendet: So 20.05.2012 17:29
An: IGC
Betreff: Re: [governance] reality check on economics



Hi,

You are twisting my words. Nothing new there.  We all do it sometimes. So I forgive you.

In the technical environment geeks are usually the way to go.
This is not the case of other environments.
Many geeks are idiots when out of their milieu.

As for idiots, we all can become idiots in some fame of reference or other. 
And no, I am not calling all non geeks idiots.
Only the ones who enter an environment they know nothing about while proclaiming their knowledge.

cheers,

avri


On 20 May 2012, at 11:21, Roland Perry wrote:

> In message <669E63CE-E03B-4FE9-A197-21943202AE50 at ella.com>, at 10:35:32 on Sun, 20 May 2012, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> writes
>>>> Unfortunately outside of perhaps the IETF, being on an equal footing
>>>> is still a more a goal than a reality
>>>
>>> Do governments have an equal say in the IETF? I always presumed it was heavily biassed towards people who could demonstrate a working
>>> knowledge of the technology.
>>
>> In my experience at the IETF, governments were as likely to contribute people who have a working knowledge as anyone else.  I know of very few
>> governments who do not have some very knowledgeable people.  True in some case, as with companies and academia, the knowledgeable have trouble
>> finding their way around the mass of idiots, often to do manage to do so - as much in governments as i beleive in any other bureaucratic
>> organization.
>
> Does that mean you agree that the only people likely to make an impact are geeks (employed by Governments)? It's a bit harsh to characterise non-geeks as "idiots", by the way. That's typical of why venues like the IETF are seen as hostile by policymakers who understand the law (which very few geeks do).
>
> What's needed is a way to bridge this divide, not emphasise it.
> --
> Roland Perry
>
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