[governance] CIRP+

[Anriette Esterhuysen]

Another rather short response from me....

This part of Mike's message really resonates for me in relation to
"Enhanced Cooperation":

 "(The suggestion here being that rather than starting off as a UN body,
the next stage IGF framework might begin as a non-UN agency but with the
possibility that it might, as it universalizes, evolve in that direction.)"

I remain unconvinced that setting up any kind of oversight body inside
the UN system at this point is (1) workable considering how hard it is
for governments to agree with one another, (2) likely to strengthen the
chances of an open internet that allows the free flow of information,
or, (3) increase civil society's influence over IG.

But.. I like the idea of exploring a new paradigm, and even a new body
of some kind, that might, if it proves itself, evolve into a more
institutionalised form, linked to the UN.

How can we better use the IGF to explore such a process?

Anriette


On 09/05/12 16:59, michael gurstein wrote:
> With respect to Wolfgang's note below which crossed my own note... I think
> that the non-UN/non-OECD OGP does go beyond these in the ways that Wolfgang
> suggests as being necessary.
> 
> Please note that the OGP Declaration does reference both the UNDHR and the
> UN Convention Against Corruption, that the UN (and the OECD) were
> represented and participating at the OGP meeting, and at least some
> representatives of those organizations seemed to think that the OGP
> initiative would ultimately find a home within the UN systems somewhere.
> Although exactly the path to achieving that was as yet very obscure. (The
> suggestion here being that rather than starting off as a UN body, the next
> stage IGF framework might begin as a non-UN agency but with the possibility
> that it might, as it universalizes, evolve in that direction.)
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of "Kleinwächter,
> Wolfgang"
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 7:03 AM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder; governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Subject: [governance] CIRP+
> 
> 
> Parminder:
> UN CIRP proposal has as multistakeholder a structure as OECD's Internet
> policy making mechanism (which is the default global Internet policy making
> system at present), plus seeking strong linkages with a rather empowered
> multistakeholder IGF (India IGF proposal). If something else/more is needed
> and possible that it must be spelt out.
> 
> Wolfgang:
> The Problem with the OECD MS model is, that it evolved from an existing
> (intergovernmental) structure. It did not create a new body. It just added
> to an IGO with one existing advisory committee to other advisory committees
> (CS and TC). This was good. But .- as you can see in the drafting of the
> Internet policy Making guidelines document - not good enough. There is no
> mechanism how the advisory bodies are directly involved into the decision
> making procedure. Remember the Internet Governance definition whre "shared
> decsion making procedures" are mentioned as a key element similar to the
> involvement of the various stakeholders in their respective roles.  
>  
> If a new (UN) body should be created to fill a (possible) gap in the
> existing global Internet Governance Ecosystem, such a new body has to go
> beyond "advisory committees" and introduce a mechanism which follows the
> definition of "shared decision making". This would be new, but this is what
> is needed. We need here innovation and creativity in internaitonal politics.
> WGIG is a good example that this can work. The UNCSTD IGF Improvement WG has
> also demonstrated that it can be done. If a renewed CIRP proposal follows
> the WGIG model, it could be the starting point for a new discussion,
> embedded into the IGF discussions on a multistakeholder "Framework of
> Committments". 
> 
> 
> 

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