From rguerra at privaterra.org Sat Mar 31 17:59:55 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:59:55 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGF12-Baku / Call for Workshop Proposals / April 12 Deadline (11 days and counting) Message-ID: A 3rd reminder that stakeholders wishing to hold workshops at the 2012 IGF Annual meeting in Baku are encouraged to submit proposals using the online workshop submission form. The deadline for submission is 12 April 2012 - some 11 days from now. http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 Workshops 2012 We are now accepting workshop proposals for the 2012 IGF Annual Meeting in Baku. The workshops will be held generally in parallel to the Main Sessions. Organizers of workshops are asked to present their proposals making use of the template posted below. Proposals should respect the organizational principles and criteria for the selection of workshops. The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) will assess the proposals. The final schedule will be determined in light of the number of proposals submitted. Organizational Principles • The guiding organizational principle for holding workshops is the multi-stakeholder approach. Geographical diversity is an equally relevant factor. • All proposals fulfilling the selection criteria and using the template will be posted on the IGF Web site. • Proposals should preferably be submitted in English. 12 April 2012 is set as the deadline for submitting proposals. • The rooms reserved for workshops and all equipment, including a screen and a PC or laptop for projections and a projector (XGA/SVGA Data), will be available free of charge. Details related to the logistics will be made available in due course. • There will be no interpretation provided for workshops. If interpretation is desired the workshop organizers are free to make their own arrangements in coordination with the IGF Secretariat. The organizers will be responsible for all associated costs. Content and format • They are two general workshop types: o Feeder workshops: will focus on the specific issues relevant to the Baku meeting themes and will act as leaders to the relevant main sessions. As was done in previous years in the relevant main sessions, the moderators of these sessions will call on the feeder workshop rapporteurs to relate the viewpoints expressed in the workshops. Each feeder workshop will be asked to assign a rapporteur whose role will include attending the relevant main session, giving a brief overview of the session's discussions and take part in a one hour round table session that will immediately proceed the main session on that topic. They should also be available to act as a resource to the moderators of the relevant main session. To the extent possible participants from the feeder workshops are also encouraged to attend the main sessions related to the feeder workshops in order to broaden the discussions on the sub-themes of the sessions. o Other workshops: Workshops on other topics of relevance to Internet Governance. (More details will be available in the draft programme paper.) • Workshops dealing with topics that are addressed in the main meeting will not be scheduled at the same time as the main meeting. • Workshops should explore a theme from different angles and different stakeholders' perspectives. Pure advocacy workshops will not be considered. • All workshops will be Webcast and have realtime transcription. • Workshops should respect the general format of meetings and should be structured to be interactive, allowing a large portion of their time for open discussion and interaction with meeting attendees, such as a Q&A session. They could include keynote presentations, moderated panels and discussions both from the floor and from remote participants. Workshops should be designed with the format that is most appropriate to the particular topic under discussion. Selection criteria • Relevance to the main themes and sub-themes. Priority will be given to proposals related to the main themes. • Demonstratively proposed or organized following the multi-stakeholder principle (e.g. at least three relevant stakeholder groups being represented in the organization of the workshop). • Capacity to improve understanding of the IGF themes and topics. • Proven experience, expertise and capacity to manage the staging of the workshop, including the raising of funds necessary to do so. • Timeliness, completeness and adherence to deadlines. • The provision of background papers. • Developing country support. • Gender balance. • Balance of speakers to participant discussion in the design of the workshop; that is, the degree of interaction planned. • Youth participation. • Suitability for remote participation, for example linkages to a hub event. • A name of a remote moderator is also required for each workshop. Template for submitting proposals An online form will be made available shortly for the submission of workshop proposals containing the following questions: Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall under? Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF workshop before? Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to various stakeholder groups.(Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Proposals should be between 200 - 1000 words. Reporting The organizers will be asked to prepare a short summary report of their workshop after the IGF annual meeting. A template for the report will be made available. 2012 Main sub theme questions http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/936-main-themes-questions The following are the main session questions proposed by the MAG: Emerging Issues Questions Question 1: What are the implications of the use of new technical and political instruments on the free flow of information, access to information, and with respect for human rights? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:Access to content, new models, common challenges for old and new media Low cost mobile access to the Internet Technical measures and use of intermediaries as instruments of law enforcement and intermediary safe harbors Question 2: What are acceptable and proportionate measures that offer Intellectual Property protection, yet allow for and respect individual users’ freedom to express themselves, to access and share content/culture, and to innovate and create? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Measures to protect intellectual property in balance with incentives for creativity and innovation Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television Legislative issues Creativity and human rights Innovation on the Internet The networked individual and expanded power of freedom Question 3: In what ways are new opportunities and challenges being created as the new Internet services and traditional media (such a broadcast TV and radio) are accessed through the ‘same screen’? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television User generated content: reliability and responsibility Low cost mobile access to the internet Question 4: To what extent do Internet based services offer new and radically different opportunities to help families, social groups, communities and broader structures in society organize and re-organize themselves when challenged by natural disaster or strife? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of; Internet and traditional media for disaster recovery and management Internet Governance for Disaster Reduction and Response – Best practice and possible collaboration framework Managing Critical Internet Resources Questions Question 1: What is the role and importance of IXPs in localizing content, including to ensure easier connectivity in cases of disasters? Question 2: How can IG policy choices ensure sustainability during natural disasters and recovery/relief efforts? Question 3: What IG choices, best practices and technical and policy challenges impact the migration of resources starting to run over IP, migration of resources? Question 4: What policy dialogues in international forums could impact these migrations? For example, what, if any, implications are there from the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) and its review of the International Telecommunications Regulations? What changes in this binding set of Treaty-level regulations could impact the future development of the Internet? Question 5: What new developments pose specific new policy and technical challenges? Introduction of new gTLDs, IPv4 and IPv6: Emerging IPv4 markets, and related governance issues relevant to market ideas/realties, Emergence of smart grids – what are best practices to enable an interconnected world? Question 6: With respect to multistakeholder accountability mechanisms, such as the AOC at ICANN, what are the results of such efforts, and what are the consequences for other CIR organizations? Questions for Feeder Workshops: What are the effects of jurisdiction and territoriality on the ongoing discussions about critical internet resource coordination? What is the relationship of the multi-stakeholder accountability mechanisms and the overall goal of enhanced cooperation? Security, Openness and Privacy Questions Question 1: What impact can security and governance issues have on the Internet and human rights? Question 2: Freedom of expression and free flow of information: how do legal framework, regulations, and principles impact this? What risks can Internet fragmentation pose to security, privacy and openness? What impact does cloud computing have on concerns over cybersecurity and cybercrime? Question 3: What risks do law enforcement, information suppression and surveillance have on security, privacy and openness and how can public and private sector cooperate to conform and observe human rights? Question 4: What measures can be taken to ensure freedom of expression, access to knowledge and privacy, including for children? What are challenges to protect freedom of expression online and what measures can be taken to better empower citizen’s access to information and participation in digital age? “Net Etiquette” and the roles and responsibilities of users as they relate to openness, privacy security? Question 5: What policies and practices that can assist in making the Internet an effective multistakeholder model to discuss national & regional issues and what best practices developing countries can benefit from. Access and Diversity Questions Question 1: What are the policy challenges around free flow of information, freedom of expression and human rights and the Internet as they relate to access? Question 2: What are the legal policy and regulatory choices including enabling environments that foster infrastructure investment, particularly for developing countries? Question 3: How is the increased demand for more bandwidth, lower costs of Internet access and revenue shifts affecting investment in broadband infrastructure and access networks? Question 4: What challenges do filtering, blocking and the diversity of national legal frameworks more generally pose to ensuring access and diversity? Question 5: Innovation and opportunities in spectrum technology and allocation---implications for access including mobile? Question 6: How can women be empowered in all dimensions of their life through access to the Internet and information? Question 7: How do language barriers impact access to the Internet? Question 8: What opportunities and challenges are presented by multilingualism? Question 9: Mobile access: what it takes to create opportunities for entrepreneurs, youth and developing country stakeholders? Internet Governance for Development Questions IG4D Thematic Cluster 1 "Pending Expansion of the Top Level Domain Space" Question 1:How do various actors in the developing world--governments, industry groupings, the technical community, civil society-perceive the relative costs and benefits of expanding the domain name space; Are there any issues on which greater clarification and mutual understanding would be helpful? Question 2: What kinds of support may be required to help communities, NGOs and businesses from the developing world to participate in the gTLD process? How do we we see the structure of the global market for registry and registrar services evolving in the years ahead?" IG4D Thematic Cluster 2 "Enabling Environment" Question 1: What does it take to attract investment in infrastructure and encourage innovation and growth of ICT services, including mobile technology and how can these technologies best be employed to address development challenges? Question 2: What does it take in terms of IG policy, legal and regulatory approaches? What are the challenges to and opportunities for participation of stakeholders from developing countries with a special focus on increasing participation by youth and women participation in IG from Least Developed Countries? IG4D Thematic Cluster 3 - "Infrastructure" Question 1: What are the key concerns regarding Internet infrastructure from developing countries' experiences and how can new technologies and the Global Internet Governance mechanisms address limitations, offer opportunities and enable development? Taking Stock and the Way Forward In the past year there has been a spate of declarations by various governments and intergovernmental groups that proposed guiding governance principles for various aspects of the Internet's development and use. Examples include, inter alia, the revised ITRs (ITU); the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (India); the International Code of Conduct for Information Security (China, Russia, Tajikistan Uzbekistan); 15 principles on policy making to be transferred into "guidelines" (OECD); the Internet Governance Declaration's 10 principles (CoE); the Deauville Declaration's 6 principles(Group of 8); the Tbilisi Declaration (OSCE), the Cybersecurity Principles (NATO); the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee 10 Principles, and the Draft Code of Ethics for the Information Society (UNESCO). Main Question: To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on guiding principles? Question 1: How are the rules for the Internet set? Question 2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? Question 3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through discussions successive IGFs. Question 4: To what extent do these principles raise distinctive implications and relevance to the world's population? Question 5: What are the prospects for the various countries embracing and implementing such principles or such harmonization of principles? -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 07:47:33 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 04:47:33 -0800 Subject: [governance] Verisign seizes .com domain registered via foreign Registrar on behalf of US Authorities Message-ID: <2EB0C5D2D3EF4C0DBE92B8881237182B@UserVAIO> http://blog2.easydns.org/2012/02/29/verisign-seizes-com-domain-registered-vi a-foreign-registrar-on-behalf-of-us-authorities/ -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 09:11:01 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 06:11:01 -0800 Subject: [governance] Remote Participation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0A0C1BD9E0304A6A98521D7BF7ABAB8C@UserVAIO> Tim, (Sorry that this got caught up in my recent e-travails... My comments were to try to put the IGF's interest in RP into some broader context (which is where it should be seen IMHO... You queried specifically my comments on "writings on RP"... I wasn't thinking specifically in the area of Community Informatics although there is a large research literature on participating in virtual communities/processes (the current Videocom project here in Canada being one) ... Rather I was pointing to the research on remote conferencing (focusing specifically on videoconferencing in the MIS and IS literatures going back dare I say it, some 30 years now including some very early attempts by the UN and others to include formal videoconferencing processes as part of their on-going operations. If one includes things like technical and social/organizational research on remote work/virtual engagement there is a huge literature in the area and a very strong linkage into various kinds of technical/commercial developments to support the virtualization of work and remote practice/participation. There really is no reason to repeat mistakes, not use low cost state of the art technologies (including social/management practices), build on previous experiences, and provide various of the commercial players in this sphere (and all the majors and no end of start-ups are involved) in a high profile, reasonably controlled environment for doing their beta implementations... To do this all that is really needed I would expect, is a relatively small amount of professional time from someone (they even exist in the UN system and certainly within every national bureaucracy) who actually knows something about RP beyond the attempts to re-create something that has been around for decades (in one form or another) on an ad hoc, semi-emergency, resourceless basis, every year. (Among the things that can be learned from even a very casual acquaintance with the research literature and experience from the broad field of current practice are the opportunities and particularly the limitations on "remote participation" and that is where I think our discussions particularly concerning RP policy should begin. Derrick Cogburn from the U. of Syracuse seems no longer to be part of these discussions but he has been working on this area as his main research interest (including launching this stuff within WSIS/IGF) for years and re-engaging with him and some of his grad students would probably be a worthwhile exercise. M -----Original Message----- From: tim.g.davies at gmail.com [mailto:tim.g.davies at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Tim Davies Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:46 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Roland Perry Subject: Re: [governance] Remote Participation Hey all, A few thoughts: . ... - Michael: you've mentioned various CI writings on RP. Is there a good resource list on experiences of RP anywhere? Would putting together a small collection of resources and papers also be useful for advocacy for better RP platforms and processes? All the best Tim On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Roland Perry wrote: In message dA7nJTFyVqAt345ZtNZEpw at mail.gmail.com>, at 06:35:00 on Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Ginger Paque writes Why have we, as civil society and the IGC, been so ineffective at developing and achieving implementation of inclusion and effective remote participation? After several years, why is RP not now an integral part of all IG and IGF policy processes? For the inter-sessional planning meetings, because they are still primarily institutionalised into the Geneva landscape (which for Europeans is at least better than having to go through the same exercise in New York). The only way this can be broken is for such meetings (and indeed similar non-UN meetings, this is not a criticism aimed particularly at DESA) to grind to a halt whenever there's a glitch in the remote participation, and not continue until the remote participation has been fixed. Of course, that results in an extreme waste of the resources of the people who *have* managed to get the funds to travel to the venue, so it's not an easy decision. But until such a rule is applied, then remote participants will always have an inherent second class status, and not just because of the greater difficulty of following and contributing to a meeting from 5,000 miles and 12hrs timezone away. The problem is that the world is largely organised around the idea of representative democracy, and this assume your representatives are able to get to the meetings. I've also got something to say about substitutes, for example in the MAG. I'm not sure it's very common for elected representatives to send substitutes to national Parliaments etc, or in the private sector to appoint a proxy who isn't already invited to the meeting. But in both cases it's entirely possible to arrange for an assistant to follow all the proceedings on mailing lists, and to brief the representative so that the latter's work is restricted to not much more than actually attending the physical meetings. -- Roland Perry ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- http://www.timdavies.org.uk 07834 856 303. @timdavies Co-director of Practical Participation: http://www.practicalparticipation.co.uk -------------------------- Practical Participation Ltd is a registered company in England and Wales - #5381958. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 12:13:02 2012 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:13:02 -0500 Subject: [governance] Is this for real? In-Reply-To: <67PH82Dd5iTPFAql@internetpolicyagency.com> References: <1AB5C29E-4E14-4AE0-860B-0FC40A7E4828@privaterra.org> <4F4CE5B8.8010604@digsys.bg> <4F4DEA42.6080600@digsys.bg> <67PH82Dd5iTPFAql@internetpolicyagency.com> Message-ID: As a general reflection (prompted by Roland's message below)... There's something deeper that has been going on, and I am not sure European authorities understand that from what I can see --or rather, from what I have not seen-- from their policies and strategies. Laws and state rule-making are no longer calling the shot like in the 19th and most part of the 20th century. Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc. are, in one way or the other (and yes, they still have to negotiate with states and pay fines in this transition time, but nevertheless...). They all are US companies, just as I bet the next digital giant will be. Those are the powers that are and will be setting the norms in the digital age and economy. Unless EU pursues a deliberate and creative strategy to enable competitive players to emerge who share and promote their values, norms re. individual rights, etc. they are just buying some time. While I understand this also depends on the ingenuity of people, for one, people don't alway need to be of a nationality to create a company of that nationality, for another, ingenuity can also emerge as a result of a strategy. Maybe those authorities no longer believe in their own values and they just want to tell their constituents: hey, we're doing our job by fining those companies who don't respect your rights! Bottom line, the law may correct tomorrow the technology loopholes or excesses of today, but there will be new ones by then. More proactive strategies that will enable a plurality of value propositions (both figuratively and literally) to the consumers and citizens --and show the world the proof that is hidden in the pudding-- would be a better way, IMHO. You may replace in the above, Europe by any other country or region sharing the same norms: Canada, New Zealand (?), Australia (?), etc. Or is everybody waiting for China (maybe they will figure out a way to come up with ideas that could also be palatable to many Internet users outside China?) or for emerging countries? I know there is a huge reserve of ingenuity in Africa but the structural challenges are still daunting... Not sure if we have to wait, but we'll certainly see. Best, Mawaki On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Roland Perry wrote: > at 08:29:12 on Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Deirdre Williams > writes > >>  But all this is technology and it will improve.... >> >> For better, or for [much] worse > > > It should make it better, because the law's catching up fast and service > providers need to show they are complying. > > For example, the current need for websites in EU to ask for "proper > permission" to install cookies. Not that it's happening much, but it's a > work in progress. > > Similarly, more recent EU proposals for a "right to be forgotten" and the > formal removal of ambiguity over whether things like IP and email addresses > are 'personal data' [they are] will mean more attention will be focussed on > the consumer/citizen's rights. > > And perhaps I'm unusual in thinking that Facebook's Timeline is a good > thing, because it shows the data subjects (as well as the rest of the world) > a much more comprehensive view of the information they've revealed - and a > better tool to edit/censor what other subscribers can see (even if there's > sometimes some doubt about whether it gets completely deleted at the > Facebook end). > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 12:14:28 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 05:14:28 +1200 Subject: [governance] China's remarks to the HRC panel on freedom of expression and the Internet In-Reply-To: <90C52C20-3287-42D3-AC86-57A813BD149F@uzh.ch> References: <90C52C20-3287-42D3-AC86-57A813BD149F@uzh.ch> Message-ID: Dear Bill, A few key issues emerge that require consideration [good news is that we included them to our contributions to the MAG]. There is no question against what is internationally agreed objectionable content which includes the like of Child Pornography, Hate Speech, Defamation, Direct and Public Incitement to commit Genocide, Advocacy of National, Racial and Religious Hatred, Incitement to discrimination, hostility and violence. Whilst the freedom of expression is not absolute, Article 19 does give notion to special duties and responsibilities that it may be subject to certain restrictions such as for the respect of the rights and reputation of others, protection of national security, or of public order or of public health or morals. China in a joint Statement [China, Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, Congo, Cuba, DPRK, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Mauritania, Myanmar, Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Palestine, Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Zimbabwe] alluded to this. Globally we continue to witness the extraordinary muzzling of Freedom of Expression through justification of the exception. For example things like defamation is taken out of context in some instances. Eg. There are tyrannical usurpers who create draconian anti-sedition legal instruments and instances. There are instances of abuse of power and a direct violations of existing checks and balance mechanisms and removal of accountability. We hear of Jurisdictions that do not even publish Auditor General's reports or who have closed down these offices etc. We see the manipulation of the exception. I have seen countries continuously promulgate State of Emergencies to justify the muzzling of Freedom of Expression or others continuously invoke the Doctrine of Necessity to hide behind the veil of National Security. The National Security exception and its boundaries in the midst of things like the Arab Springs and the Occupy "X" movements are undercurrents of a far deeper problem within those societies. In China, the Artist Ai Wei Wei whose art has nudity and in some jurisdictions this against the "Public Moral" in China, possibly or we hear of how recently in Tunisia ( http://globalvoicesonline.org/2012/02/20/tunisia-a-year-after-the-revolution-limitations-on-freedom-of-expression-continue / ) were arrested for publishing nudity in a newspaper. There are countries in the world whose public moral "accepts nudity" such as the tribal communities of parts of Africa and the Pacific and other countries where this is frowned upon due to the "public moral" in their societies. Take for example, Michaelangelo's "David" which is acclaimed to be a masterpiece of Renaissance culture between 1501 and 1504. In some countries, it would be a violation of the "public moral" and in others, it would be a work of art. I remember going to watch the land diving [this is the origin of Bungee jumping] in Pentecost Island in Vanuatu a few years ago where man would jump off a huge man made wooden tower from the top of a mountain with only a vine attached to his legs as part of a male initiation rite. If you don't jump you are not considered a "man" in their society and can't speak in meetings etc. I was shocked because they were all naked. Friends of mine who went to do some brief work on the island were shocked but after a while, we began to notice that for them, it was normal and has been engrained as a part of their culture. Of course, in some cities, if you were to walk naked in the city, you would be arrested on the spot. I think in essence countries and people misinterpret Article 19 of the ICCPR when they fail to consider what I feel is an often overlooked part of the ICCPR which is the "preamble" which gives context and fully explains the spirit in which Article 19 was carefully crafted. I am copying part of the preamble here: "Considering that, in accordance with the principles proclaimed in the Charter of the United Nations, *recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights *of *all members of the human family* is the *foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,* Recognizing that these *rights derive from the inherent dignity of the human person*, Recognizing that, in accordance with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the ideal of free human beings enjoying civil and political freedom and freedom from fear and want can only be achieved if conditions are created whereby everyone may enjoy his *civil and political rights*, as well as his *economic, social and cultural rights*, If we explore these building blocks that are mentioned in the preamble, we see the foundation is based on freedom, justice and peace. It is worthwhile asking whether our systems reflect that. We see how the New Delhi (India)'s Court had mentioned that ISPs should filter obscene publications and have mechanisms in place. We see how this is provided for in their Obscene Publication Act etc. One of the emerging issues in this regard is the *danger of lawful content* being filtered and how do we protect and safeguard this from happening. This lawful content if filtered is the muzzling of "freedom of expression". EU law precludes the imposition of an injunction by a national court which requires an Internet Service Provider (ISP) to install a filtering system with a view to preventing the illegal downloading of files, see the Press Release: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2011-11/cp110126en.pdf The actual Judgment that was just released on the 24th November, 2011 is available here: http://curia.europa.eu/jurisp/cgi-bin/form.pl?lang=EN&Submit=Submit&numaff=C-70/10 What is the role of civil society, governments and private sector in ensuring that lawful content is not muzzled? What kind of Policies should be set in place? What kind of Standards should be set in place? On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:12 AM, William Drake wrote: > > http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/2012/02/china-panel-on-right-to-freedom-of-expression-19th-session-human-rights-council.html > > On behalf of Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, Congo, Cuba, > DPRK, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Mauritania, Myanmar, > Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Palestine, Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, > Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Yemen, > Zimbabwe. > > > > > > > > *************************************************** > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch > www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake > www.williamdrake.org > **************************************************** > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Bill, > > A few key issues emerge that require consideration [good news is that we > included them to our contributions to the MAG]. > > There is no question against what is internationally agreed objectionable > content which includes the like of Child Pornography, Hate Speech, > Defamation, Direct and Public Incitement to commit Genocide, Advocacy of > National, Racial and Religious Hatred, Incitement to discrimination, > hostility and violence. > > Whilst the freedom of expression is not absolute, Article 19 does give > notion to special duties and responsibilities that it may be subject to > certain restrictions such as for the respect of the rights and reputation > of others, protection of national security, or of public order or of public > health or morals. China in a joint Statement [China, Algeria, Bangladesh, > Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, Congo, Cuba, DPRK, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, > Malaysia, Mauritania, Myanmar, Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Palestine, > Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkmenistan, > Venezuela, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Zimbabwe] alluded to this. > > > Globally we continue to witness the extraordinary muzzling of Freedom of > Expression through justification of the exception. For example things like > defamation is taken out of context in some instances. Eg. There are > tyrannical usurpers who create draconian anti-sedition legal instruments > and instances. There are instances of abuse of power and a direct > violations of existing checks and balance mechanisms and removal of > accountability. We hear of Jurisdictions that do not even publish Auditor > General's reports or who have closed down these offices etc. We see the > manipulation of the exception. I have seen countries continuously > promulgate State of Emergencies to justify the muzzling of Freedom of > Expression or others continuously invoke the Doctrine of Necessity to hide > behind the veil of National Security. > > The National Security exception and its boundaries in the midst of things > like the Arab Springs and the Occupy "X" movements are undercurrents of a > far deeper problem within those societies. > > In China, the Artist Ai Wei Wei whose art has nudity and in some > jurisdictions this against the "Public Moral" in China, possibly or we hear > of how recently in Tunisia ( > http://globalvoicesonline.org/2012/02/20/tunisia-a-year-after-the-revolution-limitations-on-freedom-of-expression-continue > / ) > were arrested for publishing nudity in a newspaper. > > There are countries in the world whose public moral "accepts nudity" such > as the tribal communities of parts of Africa and the Pacific and other > countries where this is frowned upon due to the "public moral" in their > societies. > > Take for example, Michaelangelo's "David" which is acclaimed to be a > masterpiece of Renaissance culture between 1501 and 1504. In some > countries, it would be a violation of the "public moral" and in others, it > would be a work of art. I remember going to watch the land diving [this is > the origin of Bungee jumping] in Pentecost Island in Vanuatu a few years > ago where man would jump off a huge man made wooden tower from the top of a > mountain with only a vine attached to his legs as part of a male initiation > rite. If you don't jump you are not considered a "man" in their society and > can't speak in meetings etc. I was shocked because they were all naked. > Friends of mine who went to do some brief work on the island were shocked > but after a while, we began to notice that for them, it was normal and has > been engrained as a part of their culture. Of course, in some cities, if > you were to walk naked in the city, you would be arrested on the spot. > > I think in essence countries and people misinterpret Article 19 of the > ICCPR when they fail to consider what I feel is an often overlooked part of > the ICCPR which is the "preamble" which gives context and fully explains > the spirit in which Article 19 was carefully crafted. I am copying part of > the preamble here: > > "Considering that, in accordance with the principles proclaimed in the > Charter of the United Nations, *recognition of the inherent dignity and > of the equal and inalienable rights *of *all members of the human family*is the > *foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,* > > Recognizing that these *rights derive from the inherent dignity of the > human person*, > > Recognizing that, in accordance with the Universal Declaration of Human > Rights, the ideal of free human beings enjoying civil and political freedom > and freedom from fear and want can only be achieved if conditions are > created whereby everyone may enjoy his *civil and political rights*, as > well as his *economic, social and cultural rights*, > If we explore these building blocks that are mentioned in the > preamble, we see the foundation is based on freedom, justice and peace. It > is worthwhile asking whether our systems reflect that. > We see how the New Delhi (India)'s Court had mentioned that > ISPs should filter obscene publications and have mechanisms in place. We > see how this is provided for in their Obscene Publication Act etc. > One of the emerging issues in this regard is the *danger of > lawful content* being filtered and how do we protect and safeguard this > from happening. This lawful content if filtered is the muzzling of "freedom > of expression". EU law precludes the imposition of an injunction by a > national court which requires an Internet Service Provider (ISP) to install > a filtering system with a view to preventing the illegal downloading of > files, see the Press Release: > http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2011-11/cp110126en.pdf > > The actual Judgment that was just released on the 24th > November, 2011 is available here: > http://curia.europa.eu/jurisp/cgi-bin/form.pl?lang=EN&Submit=Submit&numaff=C-70/10 > > What is the role of civil society, governments and private > sector in ensuring that lawful content is not muzzled? What kind of > Policies should be set in place? What kind of Standards should be set in > place? > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:12 AM, William Drake wrote: > >> >> http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/2012/02/china-panel-on-right-to-freedom-of-expression-19th-session-human-rights-council.html >> >> On behalf of Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, >> Congo, Cuba, DPRK, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Mauritania, Myanmar, >> Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Palestine, Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, >> Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Yemen, >> Zimbabwe. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *************************************************** >> William J. Drake >> International Fellow & Lecturer >> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >> University of Zurich, Switzerland >> william.drake at uzh.ch >> www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake >> www.williamdrake.org >> **************************************************** >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Three weeks later there is a copy of a resolution by Dirección Genero! de Migracion y Extranjeria, Servirzicza, Justicia: y Transparencia. This resolution is addressed to the Juan Santa Maria International Airport and contains a list of 24 names of participants who have been granted a visa for 30 days. I hope that the IGF Host Countries could designate someone like Sylvia Moya and pay special attention to the visa issues of the participants. ( Costa Rica has declared the ICANN meeting one of "National Interest". http://www.insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2012/january/26/costarica12012609.htm ) Sivasubramanian M ISOC India Chennai http://isocindiachennai.org http://internetstudio.in/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Imran------------------------------On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:33 PM PKT Sivasubramanian M wrote:>Hello,>>Costa Rica is hosting the 43rd ICANN meeting.>>On February 4 ICANN Constituency Travel sent an email message to all>participants seeking visa on arrival and asked us to send a copy of the>ticket and passport to Sylvia Moya of NIC, Costa Rica. Three weeks later>there is a copy of a resolution by Dirección Genero! de Migracion y> Extranjeria, Servirzicza, Justicia: y Transparencia. This resolution is>addressed to the Juan Santa Maria International Airport and contains a list>of 24 names of participants who have been granted a visa for 30 days.>>I hope that the IGF Host Countries could designate someone like Sylvia Moya>and pay special attention to the visa issues of the participants.>>( Costa Rica has declared the ICANN meeting one of "National Interest".>http://www.insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2012/january/26/costarica12012609.htm> )>>Sivasubramanian M>ISOC India Chennai>http://isocindiachennai.org>>>http://internetstudio.in/ -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 14:17:24 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 07:17:24 +1200 Subject: [governance] Host Country's attention to IGF participant Visas In-Reply-To: <1330627877.62177.yint-ygo-j2me@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1330627877.62177.yint-ygo-j2me@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Siva raises an important point. The excellent work done by Grace Githaiga in acting as a liaison for the IGC and Department of Immigration in Nairobi helped tremendously. It would be great if the Secretariat and Hosts worked together to facilitate visa coordination with ease so that people who have to fly out to other countries to collect a visa and cannot afford to send their passports in the mail are catered for. It is certainly easier to collect it on arrival, I think and if temporary visas can be granted, even better. I remember when the IGF was hosted by Lithuania, I had to pick up my visa in Tokyo, Japan, fortunately I could pick my Schengen visa, I had from Fiji. I suppose ICANN Travel have vast experience from organising travel fori 3 ICANN meetings per annum, and have achieved a level of "administrative efficiency" but yes there should be a workable model for the IGF Visa coordination that should be done many months before. Kind Regards, Sala On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: > > I also support this proposal > +1. > > Thanks > Imran------------------------------On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:33 PM PKT > Sivasubramanian M wrote:>Hello,>>Costa Rica is hosting the 43rd ICANN > meeting.>>On February 4 ICANN Constituency Travel sent an email message to > all>participants seeking visa on arrival and asked us to send a copy of > the>ticket and passport to Sylvia Moya of NIC, Costa Rica. Three weeks > later>there is a copy of a resolution by Dirección Genero! de Migracion y> > Extranjeria, Servirzicza, Justicia: y Transparencia. This resolution > is>addressed to the Juan Santa Maria International Airport and contains a > list>of 24 names of participants who have been granted a visa for 30 > days.>>I hope that the IGF Host Countries could designate someone like > Sylvia Moya>and pay special attention to the visa issues of the > participants.>>( Costa Rica has declared the ICANN meeting one of "National > Interest".> > http://www.insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2012/january/26/costarica12012609.htm> > )>>Sivasubramanian > M>ISOC India Chennai>http://isocindiachennai.org>>> > http://internetstudio.in/ > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From isolatedn at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 14:30:33 2012 From: isolatedn at gmail.com (Sivasubramanian M) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 01:00:33 +0530 Subject: [governance] Host Country's attention to IGF participant Visas In-Reply-To: References: <1330627877.62177.yint-ygo-j2me@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Sala For an event as significant as the IGF, it could work on a different level altogether. MAG / IGF Secreatriat, while finalizing the host country, could include in its criteria, a clause that the host country should designate at least two officers of a sufficient rank within the the ministry that oversees immigration to coordinate IGF visa arrangements on a "single window". The designated officers may not have to deal with individual email requests direct from participants, but could be asked to be responsive to collective requests from the IGC, from ICC, from ISOC, from a member of the MAG, from ICANN and of course from the IGF Secretariat, who could collectively forward a list of participants applyiing for visa. The Host country could go by the travel history submitted and the recommendation of these organizations to process them right there at the Minsitry of Immigration, rather than ask them to travel to the embassy office in their respective countries. MAG / UN Secretariat could stipulate / recommend such a gesture by the Host Country. ( If NIC, Costa Rica hasn't made this special arrangment I would have had to travel 2000 kilometers to Delhi and would have had to set aside at least four days if I travelled by air. In many cases participants spend as much time and travel as far to obtain their visas ) Sivasubramanian M On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > > Siva raises an important point. The excellent work done by Grace Githaiga > in acting as a liaison for the IGC and Department of Immigration in > Nairobi helped tremendously. It would be great if the Secretariat and Hosts > worked together to facilitate visa coordination with ease so that people > who have to fly out to other countries to collect a visa and cannot afford > to send their passports in the mail are catered for. > > It is certainly easier to collect it on arrival, I think and if temporary > visas can be granted, even better. I remember when the IGF was hosted by > Lithuania, I had to pick up my visa in Tokyo, Japan, fortunately I could > pick my Schengen visa, I had from Fiji. > > I suppose ICANN Travel have vast experience from organising travel fori 3 > ICANN meetings per annum, and have achieved a level of "administrative > efficiency" but yes there should be a workable model for the IGF Visa > coordination that should be done many months before. > > Kind Regards, > Sala > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: > >> >> I also support this proposal >> +1. >> >> Thanks >> Imran------------------------------On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:33 PM PKT >> Sivasubramanian M wrote:>Hello,>>Costa Rica is hosting the 43rd ICANN >> meeting.>>On February 4 ICANN Constituency Travel sent an email message to >> all>participants seeking visa on arrival and asked us to send a copy of >> the>ticket and passport to Sylvia Moya of NIC, Costa Rica. Three weeks >> later>there is a copy of a resolution by Dirección Genero! de Migracion y> >> Extranjeria, Servirzicza, Justicia: y Transparencia. This resolution >> is>addressed to the Juan Santa Maria International Airport and contains a >> list>of 24 names of participants who have been granted a visa for 30 >> days.>>I hope that the IGF Host Countries could designate someone like >> Sylvia Moya>and pay special attention to the visa issues of the >> participants.>>( Costa Rica has declared the ICANN meeting one of "National >> Interest".> >> http://www.insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2012/january/26/costarica12012609.htm> >> )>>Sivasubramanian >> M>ISOC India Chennai>http://isocindiachennai.org>>> >> http://internetstudio.in/ >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 07:32:08 +1200 Subject: [governance] Host Country's attention to IGF participant Visas In-Reply-To: References: <1330627877.62177.yint-ygo-j2me@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: +1 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Sivasubramanian M wrote: > Dear Sala > > For an event as significant as the IGF, it could work on a different level > altogether. MAG / IGF Secreatriat, while finalizing the host country, > could include in its criteria, a clause that the host country should > designate at least two officers of a sufficient rank within the the > ministry that oversees immigration to coordinate IGF visa arrangements on a > "single window". > > The designated officers may not have to deal with individual email > requests direct from participants, but could be asked to be responsive to > collective requests from the IGC, from ICC, from ISOC, from a member of the > MAG, from ICANN and of course from the IGF Secretariat, who could > collectively forward a list of participants applyiing for visa. The Host > country could go by the travel history submitted and the recommendation of > these organizations to process them right there at the Minsitry of > Immigration, rather than ask them to travel to the embassy office in their > respective countries. MAG / UN Secretariat could stipulate / recommend such > a gesture by the Host Country. > > ( If NIC, Costa Rica hasn't made this special arrangment I would have had > to travel 2000 kilometers to Delhi and would have had to set aside at least > four days if I travelled by air. In many cases participants spend as much > time and travel as far to obtain their visas ) > > Sivasubramanian M > > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < > salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Siva raises an important point. The excellent work done by Grace >> Githaiga in acting as a liaison for the IGC and Department of Immigration >> in Nairobi helped tremendously. It would be great if the Secretariat and >> Hosts worked together to facilitate visa coordination with ease so that >> people who have to fly out to other countries to collect a visa and cannot >> afford to send their passports in the mail are catered for. >> >> It is certainly easier to collect it on arrival, I think and if temporary >> visas can be granted, even better. I remember when the IGF was hosted by >> Lithuania, I had to pick up my visa in Tokyo, Japan, fortunately I could >> pick my Schengen visa, I had from Fiji. >> >> I suppose ICANN Travel have vast experience from organising travel fori 3 >> ICANN meetings per annum, and have achieved a level of "administrative >> efficiency" but yes there should be a workable model for the IGF Visa >> coordination that should be done many months before. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Sala >> >> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: >> >>> >>> I also support this proposal >>> +1. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Imran------------------------------On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:33 PM PKT >>> Sivasubramanian M wrote:>Hello,>>Costa Rica is hosting the 43rd ICANN >>> meeting.>>On February 4 ICANN Constituency Travel sent an email message to >>> all>participants seeking visa on arrival and asked us to send a copy of >>> the>ticket and passport to Sylvia Moya of NIC, Costa Rica. Three weeks >>> later>there is a copy of a resolution by Dirección Genero! de Migracion y> >>> Extranjeria, Servirzicza, Justicia: y Transparencia. This resolution >>> is>addressed to the Juan Santa Maria International Airport and contains a >>> list>of 24 names of participants who have been granted a visa for 30 >>> days.>>I hope that the IGF Host Countries could designate someone like >>> Sylvia Moya>and pay special attention to the visa issues of the >>> participants.>>( Costa Rica has declared the ICANN meeting one of "National >>> Interest".> >>> http://www.insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2012/january/26/costarica12012609.htm> >>> )>>Sivasubramanian >>> M>ISOC India Chennai>http://isocindiachennai.org>>> >>> http://internetstudio.in/ >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >> Cell: +679 998 2851 >> >> >> >> > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lehto.paul at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 14:43:55 2012 From: lehto.paul at gmail.com (Paul Lehto) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:43:55 -0500 Subject: [governance] China's remarks to the HRC panel on freedom of expression and the Internet In-Reply-To: <90C52C20-3287-42D3-AC86-57A813BD149F@uzh.ch> References: <90C52C20-3287-42D3-AC86-57A813BD149F@uzh.ch> Message-ID: The Joint Statement delivered by China below is a perfect example of an invocation of the most enforceable human "right" there is: The "right" to support the sovereignty and actions of the incumbent regime in one's home country. This right of supporting the powers the be is rarely violated, and is so common and non-controversial as to be omitted from most human rights instruments, but it is still the implicit foundation of the Joint Statement delivered by China: *"Mr. Moderator, all stakeholders of the international community should take concerted efforts to prevent and combat the abuse of freedom of expression on the Internet. Internet users of all countries should respect the rights and dignities of others, contribute to maintaining social stability, and safeguarding national security. The internet’s industry should act to foster a crime-free, reliable and secure cyberspace. Governments should strengthen legislation in the field of internet regulation and law enforcement activities with the aim of combating criminal activities."* Earlier in the Joint Statement, they make clear in more detail what the "abuses" of freedom of expression are. *"The abuse of the freedom of expression, on the internet in particular, can encroach on the rights and dignity of other individuals, undermine social safety and stability, even threaten national security. The Internet is often used to propagate terrorism, extremism, racism, xenophobia, even ideas of toppling legitimate authorities. Moreoever, the Internet is used by some groups to distort facts, exaggerate situations, provoke violence, and attempt to exaggerate tension wherever it appears to obtain political benefits." * Under the Joint Statement, "all users" of the Internet (which apparently includes those of us here on the IGC) should cooperate to "maintain social stability" and combat "abuses of freedom of expression" by those who "distort facts, exaggerate situations ... and attempt to exaggerate tension wherever it appears to obtain political benefits." To me, this Joint Statement is a clear invocation of the "right" to support incumbent regimes, styled as being a position "in strict accordance with international law" of human rights, which does give credence to national sovereignty ideas. To do so, they cite Article 19/20 of the ICCPR and other international law. The original statement on human rights that I drafted was anchored in a non-rights concept, namely that *the case for interference with free expression must always be the more difficult one to make than the case for upholding free expression*. One commenter noted that this was an "important point" but unfortunately it got edited out of the final statement, and instead several expression mentions of international human rights law were inserted. (Such laws will always be useless in domestic courts precisely when they are needed the most) No Country is particularly principled when it comes to upholding trenchant criticism of its governing policies or legitimacy, but this is precisely the moment and the context when freedom of expression is most important: to foster a peaceful process of change via changing others' opinions of the incumbent regime. If not only violence or attempts to provoke violence are prohibited free expression, but also speech that, as the Joint Statement puts it, tends not to "promote social stability" is also prohibited, then *all peaceful andall violent means of social change * on the internet are effectively prohibited. None of us truly needs a "right" to be a loyal citizen, to keep to one's own business, or to support the incumbent regime. We need rights only to protect us when some other powerful person or organization doesn't like what we have to say. Supporting the incumbent regime's security efforts may be "expression" but it is not free expression in the truest sense, in that it doesn't require the support of a right to encourage and foster its expression. The rights that mean the most are the ones that are being, or might be, violated. Like anything that is valuable, important human rights are subject to being stolen or violated. We should not confuse the extent of the violation of a right with the existence of the right or the enforceability of a right. If we do confuse human rights with the concepts of enforceability of those rights in domestic courts or under national laws, there will never be "rights without borders". As someone trained in the law, I of course do not oppose expansion of the recognition and enforcement of human rights globally, in domestic courts and elsewhere. But the most important times for human rights to apply will always be when domestic courts are of absolutely no use whatsoever, such as in Nazi Germany or cases of genocide. This is why we must, in my opinion, always keep our independence from not only national law, but even international law (in the sense in which international law is interpreted in domestic courts at least). Paul Lehto, J.D. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, William Drake wrote: > > http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/2012/02/china-panel-on-right-to-freedom-of-expression-19th-session-human-rights-council.html > > On behalf of Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, Congo, Cuba, > DPRK, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Mauritania, Myanmar, > Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Palestine, Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, > Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Yemen, > Zimbabwe. > > > > > > > > *************************************************** > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch > www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake > www.williamdrake.org > **************************************************** > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Paul R Lehto, J.D. P.O. Box 1 Ishpeming, MI 49849 lehto.paul at gmail.com 906-204-4026 (cell) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 07:57:02 +1200 Subject: [governance] China's remarks to the HRC panel on freedom of expression and the Internet In-Reply-To: References: <90C52C20-3287-42D3-AC86-57A813BD149F@uzh.ch> Message-ID: I agree wholeheartedly with you Paul which is why I personally liked the first consolidated draft better because I felt that you nailed it. I agree that it is the abuse of the "exceptions" that is worrying. I live in a country where in the absence of a parliament since the 2006 Coup D'Etat, there were a series of Decrees of State of Emergency was promulgated and constantly renewed whilst constantly justifying Freedom of Expression etc. Article 19 of the ICCPR is being misinterpreted that people very conveniently choose to omit the preamble which contains the spirit and culture within which Article 19 was meant to be read. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Paul Lehto wrote: > The Joint Statement delivered by China below is a perfect example of an > invocation of the most enforceable human "right" there is: The "right" to > support the sovereignty and actions of the incumbent regime in one's home > country. This right of supporting the powers the be is rarely violated, > and is so common and non-controversial as to be omitted from most human > rights instruments, but it is still the implicit foundation of the Joint > Statement delivered by China: > > *"Mr. Moderator, all stakeholders of the international community should > take concerted efforts to prevent and combat the abuse of freedom of > expression on the Internet. Internet users of all countries should > respect the rights and dignities of others, contribute to maintaining > social stability, and safeguarding national security. The internet’s > industry should act to foster a crime-free, reliable and secure cyberspace. > Governments should strengthen legislation in the field of internet > regulation and law enforcement activities with the aim of combating > criminal activities."* > > Earlier in the Joint Statement, they make clear in more detail what the > "abuses" of freedom of expression are. > > *"The abuse of the freedom of expression, on the internet in particular, > can encroach on the rights and dignity of other individuals, undermine > social safety and stability, even threaten national security. The Internet > is often used to propagate terrorism, extremism, racism, xenophobia, even > ideas of toppling legitimate authorities. Moreoever, the Internet is > used by some groups to distort facts, exaggerate situations, provoke > violence, and attempt to exaggerate tension wherever it appears to obtain > political benefits." > * > Under the Joint Statement, "all users" of the Internet (which apparently > includes those of us here on the IGC) should cooperate to "maintain social > stability" and combat "abuses of freedom of expression" by those who > "distort facts, exaggerate situations ... and attempt to exaggerate tension > wherever it appears to obtain political benefits." To me, this Joint > Statement is a clear invocation of the "right" to support incumbent > regimes, styled as being a position "in strict accordance with > international law" of human rights, which does give credence to national > sovereignty ideas. To do so, they cite Article 19/20 of the ICCPR and > other international law. > > The original statement on human rights that I drafted was anchored in a > non-rights concept, namely that *the case for interference with free > expression must always be the more difficult one to make than the case for > upholding free expression*. One commenter noted that this was an > "important point" but unfortunately it got edited out of the final > statement, and instead several expression mentions of international human > rights law were inserted. (Such laws will always be useless in domestic > courts precisely when they are needed the most) > > No Country is particularly principled when it comes to upholding trenchant > criticism of its governing policies or legitimacy, but this is precisely > the moment and the context when freedom of expression is most important: > to foster a peaceful process of change via changing others' opinions of the > incumbent regime. > > If not only violence or attempts to provoke violence are prohibited free > expression, but also speech that, as the Joint Statement puts it, tends not > to "promote social stability" is also prohibited, then *all peaceful andall violent means of social change > * on the internet are effectively prohibited. > > None of us truly needs a "right" to be a loyal citizen, to keep to one's > own business, or to support the incumbent regime. We need rights only to > protect us when some other powerful person or organization doesn't like > what we have to say. Supporting the incumbent regime's security efforts > may be "expression" but it is not free expression in the truest sense, in > that it doesn't require the support of a right to encourage and foster its > expression. > > The rights that mean the most are the ones that are being, or might be, > violated. Like anything that is valuable, important human rights are > subject to being stolen or violated. We should not confuse the extent of > the violation of a right with the existence of the right or the > enforceability of a right. > > If we do confuse human rights with the concepts of enforceability of those > rights in domestic courts or under national laws, there will never be > "rights without borders". > > As someone trained in the law, I of course do not oppose expansion of the > recognition and enforcement of human rights globally, in domestic courts > and elsewhere. But the most important times for human rights to apply will > always be when domestic courts are of absolutely no use whatsoever, such as > in Nazi Germany or cases of genocide. This is why we must, in my opinion, > always keep our independence from not only national law, but even > international law (in the sense in which international law is interpreted > in domestic courts at least). > > Paul Lehto, J.D. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, William Drake wrote: > >> >> http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/2012/02/china-panel-on-right-to-freedom-of-expression-19th-session-human-rights-council.html >> >> On behalf of Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, >> Congo, Cuba, DPRK, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Mauritania, Myanmar, >> Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Palestine, Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, >> Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Yemen, >> Zimbabwe. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *************************************************** >> William J. Drake >> International Fellow & Lecturer >> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >> University of Zurich, Switzerland >> william.drake at uzh.ch >> www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake >> www.williamdrake.org >> **************************************************** >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Paul R Lehto, J.D. > P.O. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:27:02 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 08:27:02 +1200 Subject: [governance] China's remarks to the HRC panel on freedom of expression and the Internet In-Reply-To: References: <90C52C20-3287-42D3-AC86-57A813BD149F@uzh.ch> Message-ID: Apologies correction inline: On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > I agree wholeheartedly with you Paul which is why I personally liked the > first consolidated draft better because I felt that you nailed it. > > I agree that it is the abuse of the "exceptions" that is worrying. I live > in a country where in the absence of a parliament since the 2006 Coup > D'Etat, there were a series of Decrees of State of Emergency was > promulgated and constantly renewed whilst constantly justifying Freedom of > Expression etc. > "Constantly justifying attacks on Freedom of Expression" - people get charged with sedition and serious offences etc." > > Article 19 of the ICCPR is being misinterpreted that people very > conveniently choose to omit the preamble which contains the spirit and > culture within which Article 19 was meant to be read. > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Paul Lehto wrote: > >> The Joint Statement delivered by China below is a perfect example of an >> invocation of the most enforceable human "right" there is: The "right" to >> support the sovereignty and actions of the incumbent regime in one's home >> country. This right of supporting the powers the be is rarely violated, >> and is so common and non-controversial as to be omitted from most human >> rights instruments, but it is still the implicit foundation of the Joint >> Statement delivered by China: >> >> *"Mr. Moderator, all stakeholders of the international community should >> take concerted efforts to prevent and combat the abuse of freedom of >> expression on the Internet. Internet users of all countries should >> respect the rights and dignities of others, contribute to maintaining >> social stability, and safeguarding national security. The internet’s >> industry should act to foster a crime-free, reliable and secure cyberspace. >> Governments should strengthen legislation in the field of internet >> regulation and law enforcement activities with the aim of combating >> criminal activities."* >> >> Earlier in the Joint Statement, they make clear in more detail what the >> "abuses" of freedom of expression are. >> >> *"The abuse of the freedom of expression, on the internet in particular, >> can encroach on the rights and dignity of other individuals, undermine >> social safety and stability, even threaten national security. The Internet >> is often used to propagate terrorism, extremism, racism, xenophobia, even >> ideas of toppling legitimate authorities. Moreoever, the Internet is >> used by some groups to distort facts, exaggerate situations, provoke >> violence, and attempt to exaggerate tension wherever it appears to >> obtain political benefits." >> * >> Under the Joint Statement, "all users" of the Internet (which apparently >> includes those of us here on the IGC) should cooperate to "maintain social >> stability" and combat "abuses of freedom of expression" by those who >> "distort facts, exaggerate situations ... and attempt to exaggerate tension >> wherever it appears to obtain political benefits." To me, this Joint >> Statement is a clear invocation of the "right" to support incumbent >> regimes, styled as being a position "in strict accordance with >> international law" of human rights, which does give credence to national >> sovereignty ideas. To do so, they cite Article 19/20 of the ICCPR and >> other international law. >> >> The original statement on human rights that I drafted was anchored in a >> non-rights concept, namely that *the case for interference with free >> expression must always be the more difficult one to make than the case for >> upholding free expression*. One commenter noted that this was an >> "important point" but unfortunately it got edited out of the final >> statement, and instead several expression mentions of international human >> rights law were inserted. (Such laws will always be useless in domestic >> courts precisely when they are needed the most) >> >> No Country is particularly principled when it comes to upholding >> trenchant criticism of its governing policies or legitimacy, but this is >> precisely the moment and the context when freedom of expression is most >> important: to foster a peaceful process of change via changing others' >> opinions of the incumbent regime. >> >> If not only violence or attempts to provoke violence are prohibited free >> expression, but also speech that, as the Joint Statement puts it, tends not >> to "promote social stability" is also prohibited, then *all peaceful andall violent means of social change >> * on the internet are effectively prohibited. >> >> None of us truly needs a "right" to be a loyal citizen, to keep to one's >> own business, or to support the incumbent regime. We need rights only to >> protect us when some other powerful person or organization doesn't like >> what we have to say. Supporting the incumbent regime's security efforts >> may be "expression" but it is not free expression in the truest sense, in >> that it doesn't require the support of a right to encourage and foster its >> expression. >> >> The rights that mean the most are the ones that are being, or might be, >> violated. Like anything that is valuable, important human rights are >> subject to being stolen or violated. We should not confuse the extent of >> the violation of a right with the existence of the right or the >> enforceability of a right. >> >> If we do confuse human rights with the concepts of enforceability of >> those rights in domestic courts or under national laws, there will never be >> "rights without borders". >> >> As someone trained in the law, I of course do not oppose expansion of the >> recognition and enforcement of human rights globally, in domestic courts >> and elsewhere. But the most important times for human rights to apply will >> always be when domestic courts are of absolutely no use whatsoever, such as >> in Nazi Germany or cases of genocide. This is why we must, in my opinion, >> always keep our independence from not only national law, but even >> international law (in the sense in which international law is interpreted >> in domestic courts at least). >> >> Paul Lehto, J.D. >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, William Drake wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/2012/02/china-panel-on-right-to-freedom-of-expression-19th-session-human-rights-council.html >>> >>> On behalf of Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, >>> Congo, Cuba, DPRK, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Mauritania, Myanmar, >>> Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Palestine, Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, >>> Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Yemen, >>> Zimbabwe. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************************** >>> William J. Drake >>> International Fellow & Lecturer >>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >>> University of Zurich, Switzerland >>> william.drake at uzh.ch >>> www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake >>> www.williamdrake.org >>> **************************************************** >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Paul R Lehto, J.D. >> P.O. Box 1 >> Ishpeming, MI 49849 >> lehto.paul at gmail.com >> 906-204-4026 (cell) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:37:27 +1200 Subject: [governance] ICT Update - issue 67 | ICT Innovation | call for articles #ICT4D #IG4D Message-ID: ** ** ** ** *ICT Update - issue 67 | ICT Innovation | call for articles* * * *[image: ICTUpdate_logo_sq_web_02.jpg]* ** ** ** ICT Update magazine is looking for articles for our forthcoming issue on *ICT innovation*.** ** ** We would like to hear from anyone working in African, Caribbean or Pacific countries, developing new computer software, mobile phone apps, web applications or hardware, especially where it can be used for agricultural or rural development. **** ** ** If you are a software developer, entrepreneur, member of an app development lab or working in a related field, then please get in touch with brief details on the technology you are developing and how it can help farmers or rural communities in ACP countries.**** ** ** We can then send an article outline and list of questions to cover in the article, or organise a time for a telephone interview. **** ** ** We also greatly appreciate the responses to our previous calls for articles, and hope you will continue to support our efforts in forthcoming issues.**** ** ** For more information, send an email to: *jim at contactivity.com * * * ICT Update (http://ictupdate.cta.int) is a bimonthly printed bulletin, web magazine, and accompanying e-mail newsletter focusing on the use of information and communication technologies in agriculture in African, Caribbean and Pacific countries. 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The goal with things-internet should be to have electronic participation be as seamless as possible relative to in person participation. I would suggest a global find/replace to find "Remote Participation" and replace it with "Participation". If not now, then in the future. A call for "Participation without visas" does not seem out of line in the age of the internet, but what is sought is Participation, plain and simple. Sent via remote email, Paul Lehto, J.D. P.S. It seems the feeling many have had with technical problems in participation left them feeling quite "remote" to the process of participation. :) On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > The Statement is available via > http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/47 > > Michael your concerns are factored in the Statement, see Paragraph [4]. > > Kind Regards, > Sala > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:18 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > >> ** >> >> (Coming in late, this was caught up in my gmail issues... >> >> I'ld like to strongly agree with Ginger in this. For me Remote >> Participation is not a technical issue but rather has to do with policy. A >> commitment to "RP" has a lot of implications of which the technical and >> organizational are only part (and even then may be the least significant). >> RP implies that the processes of discussion are structured and designed -- >> including their planning, set-up, execution and follow-on -- in such a way >> that those who are participating remotely are equally enabled and empowered >> as those who are participating f2f. >> >> Achieving this is a huge undertaking to my mind but one worth pursuing >> both at the operational and at the policy level. >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto: >> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Ginger Paque >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:47 AM >> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Adam Peake >> *Subject:* Re: [governance] Remote Participation >> >> Adam said: >> >> I think it's petty to complain about technical problems with the >> transcripts etc from the MAG meeting, bad connections happen all the >> time (and if MAG members can't work out how to tell a group of people >> they are having problems with a connection it perhaps says more about >> them than it does about the secretariat/moderators.) >> >> I think that this full discussion and support for RP is very important >> and exciting. >> >> I think that using the occasion of the recent meetings as an example and >> illustration is a mistake. I agree with Adam that the tech glitches during >> last week's meetings should not even be addressed--these are obvious. >> Placing emphasis on tech details draws attention from the more valid, and >> more important principles. I know I am repeating myself, but I think they >> boil down to just one: >> >> RP must be institutionalized in meeting processes. >> >> The only serious problem I see with last week's meetings was the lack of >> a remote moderator and clear processes. If RP -- and I mean remote >> participation and remote engagement, not remote observation -- were an >> automatic, standard part of meeting strategies and processes, the inclusion >> of an onsite remote moderator would have been a given, as much as the >> presence of the traditional chair and moderator. I dare to say that if one >> of the members of the RPWG had been at the meetings, they might have >> 'requested' to be 'allowed' to act as remote moderator. Remote moderation >> and remote participation should not depend on collaboration of volunteers >> and serendipity. Implementation of RP may always need the collaboration of >> volunteers, and the RPWG exists as a volunteer organization, seeking the >> privilege of collaborating, but the planning process should originate in >> the IGF structure itself, not in the action of volunteers. >> >> If RP were institutionalized in the IGF process, the Secretariat might >> ask the RPWG for collaboration, and issue a call for volunteers. >> >> If RP were institutionalized in the IGF process, the Secretariat might >> include a RPWG (or other mechanism) liaison for strategy, planning and >> process and instead of an endless series of ad hoc situations. >> >> If RP were institutionalized, Remote Hubs -- an innovation of the RPWG >> catalysed by Marilia's energy and organization -- would become part of the >> IGF process, not the RPWG process, would include remote hubs whenever >> appropriate and would include support for regional IGFs. >> >> I would prefer to see a strong, clear, short statement asking that RP be >> institutionalised (maybe that is not the appropriate word) as an integral >> part of the IGF meeting process. >> >> Establishing principles and guidelines is separate process which has been >> started, and should be coordinated to take advantage of, and include the >> different input. It should not be done in a hurry, in response to one >> frustrating meeting. Nor should one frustrating meeting opaque the progress >> the IGF has made toward inclusive RP. We should use this meeting to >> energize forward progress in an orderly manner. Can we form a better >> strategy and focus for productive results? I think so. I have not made >> comments on the existing statement, because I would re-write it completely, >> with a different approach, with points I have made above. >> >> Is it proper/possible for me to propose an alternate text? I do not have >> the sense that there is consensus for the posts I have made previously, so >> I have not done so. >> >> Anyway, again, my 2 cents. Cheers for the energy around remote >> participation! >> >> Ginger >> >> >> >> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >> >> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu >> Diplo Foundation >> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme >> www.diplomacy.edu/ig >> *The latest from Diplo....*From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the >> most exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May >> 2012: *Bilateral Diplomacy*, *Diplomacy of Small States*, and * >> E-diplomacy*. Apply now to reserve your place: >> http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses** >> >> >> >> On 23 February 2012 05:13, Adam Peake wrote: >> >>> Comment below: >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >>> wrote: >>> > Dear All, >>> > >>> > Firstly thank you Deirdre for copying it onto word and making it much >>> easier >>> > to incorporate the new feedback that we received from Schombe, Jovan, >>> > Anriette, Jeremy, Roland, Mariela etc. >>> > >>> > Whilst I am copying the text onto this email, I will also place it on >>> the >>> > Statement Workspace as well: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > STATEMENT BY THE CIVIL SOCIETY INTERNET GOVERNANCE CAUCUS ON REMOTE >>> > PARTICIPATION >>> > >>> > We would like to acknowledge the excellent work that the Internet >>> Governance >>> > Forum Remote Participation Working Group have been doing over the last >>> five >>> > years. We appreciate the numerous hours of sacrifice and work behind >>> the >>> > scenes to build remote participation to what it is today. We have >>> seen how >>> > whilst Technology is important, that it goes hand in hand with >>> extraordinary >>> > levels of sacrifice and commitment. It is this commitment that >>> enables the >>> > spirit of the IGF which is in sharing, dialogue, collaboration and >>> > ultimately access. >>> > >>> > We are fortunate that the Internet Governance Forum Secretariat and UN >>> DESA >>> > are open .and committed to continued improvements to Remote >>> Participation. >>> > Each year the IGF RPWG commences its operations with training of remote >>> > moderators many weeks ahead of the meeting, where they discuss with >>> remote >>> > hubs and encourage participation and liaise with the Secretariat to >>> make >>> > remote participation a reality. >>> > >>> > We would like to reiterate and underscore that remote participation is >>> a >>> > crucial part of organizing the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) and we >>> > appreciate the effort to provide remote participation for the Open >>> > Consultation, the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) meetings, and >>> the >>> > MAG meeting this month – February 2012 – which was opened to observers. >>> > >>> > The IGC believes that Remote Participation (RP) should be an integral >>> part >>> > of Internet Governance and IGF Policy Processes. It is impossible to >>> sustain >>> > an inclusive global policy process without effective remote >>> participation. >>> > We would like to explore how we can assist in working together to >>> address >>> > the issues raised in 2008 by various stakeholders that have yet to be >>> > addressed[1]. >>> > >>> > The MAG and IGF Secretariats should start working with the host to >>> ensure >>> > that real time transcriptions are available for all sessions and not >>> just >>> > the Main Sessions. >>> > >>> >>> from the Nairobi chair's summary document: >>> >>> "The entire meeting was Webcast, with video streaming provided from >>> the main session room and audio streaming provided from all workshop >>> meeting rooms. All the main sessions and workshops had real time >>> transcription. The text transcripts and video of all meetings were >>> made available through the IGF Website." >>> >>> I think it's petty to complain about technical problems with the >>> transcripts etc from the MAG meeting, bad connections happen all the >>> time (and if MAG members can't work out how to tell a group of people >>> they are having problems with a connection it perhaps says more about >>> them than it does about the secretariat/moderators.) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> > We would like to commend the excellent work of the technical team from >>> > Politecnico di Torino, (The Polytechnic University of Turin) which was >>> > originally brought by our colleague and former IGC Civil Society >>> Coordinator >>> > Vittorio Bertola. >>> > >>> > However, we would like to point out some difficulties that occurred >>> with the >>> > system during the open MAG meeting. On the third day, morning session, >>> (the >>> > second day of the open MAG meeting), remote observers were effectively >>> > excluded because they had no access to live transcript. >>> > >>> > Also MAG members trying to participate online had difficulty in >>> contacting >>> > moderators, partly because the moderators were serving more than one >>> > function. >>> > >>> > We strongly urge MAG and IGF Secretariats and ourselves to consider the >>> > following for the future IGF organizing work and the IGF itself, and >>> work >>> > together to bring them about: >>> > >>> > · Ensuring equal participation between online and offline >>> participants >>> > through planning meetings to give online and offline participants an >>> equal >>> > opportunity to participate and contribute to meetings. >>> > >>> > · Ensuring that there is sufficient capacity and appropriate >>> bandwidth to >>> > sustain remote participation by liaising with hosts well in advance to >>> > enable greater interactions from offline participants. >>> > >>> > · Preparing a clear comprehensive guideline for remote participation >>> and >>> > its moderation and post session or meeting reporting for meeting hosts, >>> > facilitators and chairs. >>> > >>> > · Clearly advertising opportunities for RP in advance of all >>> meetings, >>> > with clear guidance for participants on the opportunities to engage >>> through >>> > RP that will be available. >>> > >>> > ·Always assigning exclusive remote participation >>> coordinator/moderators (who >>> > do not have other jobs at the same time, and are responsible for >>> > interactions between the meeting’s physical participants/current >>> speaker, >>> > the Chair and the remote participants). >>> > >>> > · Establishing a clear procedure that would encourage remote >>> participants >>> > to intervene. Such a system is desirable both for those physically >>> present >>> > in Geneva and those observing the meeting remotely. >>> > >>> > · Providing as much interactivity as possible by giving remote >>> > participants to interact and engage in meetings. >>> > >>> > · Providing multiple methods – video, voice and text channel, as >>> well as >>> > real-time transcription and video streaming – of coverage of the >>> meeting >>> > >>> > · Enabling the meeting and remote participation through interactive >>> > presentations access through RP. >>> > >>> > · Creating a select Task force or Working Group created that has >>> > representatives from the Government, Private Sector and Civil Society >>> that >>> > is dedicated to seeing improvements of Remote Participation and to >>> ensure >>> > the incorporation of critical elements that have been highlighted to >>> ensure >>> > improved remote participation processes. >>> > >>> > Because only limited funds are available for face- to >>> -face participation, >>> > this issue is crucially important to all stakeholders from all >>> > constituencies who are entitled to participate in the meetings, and >>> who wish >>> > to do so from a remote location. Meeting Chairs also play a central >>> role in >>> > creating a dynamic and inclusive environment that welcomes remote >>> > participation. >>> > >>> > We also encourage greater partnership between the governments and >>> private >>> > sector in enhancing remote participation. >>> > >>> > We have to move beyond advocacy to listing and creating tangible >>> outcomes to >>> > make improved, stable and sustainable remote participation a reality. >>> > >>> > There are regions around the world where transportation is extremely >>> > expensive and one such region is the Pacific which has 22 countries and >>> > territories. Remote participation was the only way that any of these >>> > countries could access the IGF. >>> > >>> > However there is room to improve processes and create an IGF culture >>> where >>> > remote participation is prioritised through exploring tested >>> methodology. >>> > >>> > The appropriate technical solutions need also to be explored as well >>> > bandwidth and ensuring that there is uninterrupted power supply and >>> > redundancy options where backup generators are critical to maintain a >>> > consistent and seamless flow. The MAG and IGF Secretariats should also >>> > ensure that there is sufficient and dedicated bandwidth capacity to >>> sustain >>> > the volume of traffic from remote participation. >>> > >>> > Aside from having the appropriate technical solutions and should also >>> > include the following:- >>> > >>> > · Outreach. >>> > >>> > · Mapping local and regional stakeholders; >>> > >>> > · Coordinating with people on the ground significantly before >>> the >>> > IGF in a series of strategic roll out. >>> > >>> > · Creation of Guidelines for Meeting Chairs and Moderators >>> whilst >>> > noting the limitations. >>> > >>> > · Identifying how the private sector, civil society and >>> governments >>> > can be better involved in the remote hubs etc. >>> > >>> > · Encourage greater collaboration between the IGF RPWG and >>> national, >>> > sub regional and regional IGFs. >>> > >>> > We also express our support of the IGF RPWG which published guidelines >>> and >>> > recommendations for remote participation and IGF 2011 WS-67 >>> participants >>> > prepared a draft of e-participation principles. >>> > >>> > Ends >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ________________________________ >>> > >>> > [1] http://wiki.igf-online.net/wiki/IGF_Virtual_Community >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Deirdre Williams >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Dear Sala, >>> >> I have been unavoidably out of contact all day, and am just catching >>> up >>> >> with reading the messages. >>> >> I am not clear which document you want me to send. >>> >> I have attached a word copy of my response yesterday, although from >>> >> reading the discussion that has perhaps been superseded during the >>> >> discussions today? >>> >> Please let me know as I would be delighted to help. >>> >> De >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 22 February 2012 14:15, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Deirdre, >>> >>> >>> >>> As you know our initial statement was used by the civil society >>> component >>> >>> of the CSTDWG as advised by Marilia. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you could please send it in a word document that would be super >>> >>> helpful and easy to put up on the Statement Workspace. We will also >>> be >>> >>> sending our Statement to the IGF Secretariat. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>> >>> >>> >>> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>> >>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>> >>> Cell: +679 998 2851 <%2B679%20998%202851> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>> William >>> >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>> > >>> > Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>> > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>> > Cell: +679 998 2851 <%2B679%20998%202851> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> > >>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> > >>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> > >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> !DSPAM:2676,4f461b5125626162813518! >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Paul R Lehto, J.D. 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:55:14 +1200 Subject: [governance] Bloggers [IGC Website] Message-ID: For those who are interested in sharing their Blogs related to Internet Governance or blogging about any aspect of Internet Governance. You can log in using your name and password and blog: http://igcaucus.org/blog When blogging keep in mind what the IGC is about: http://igcaucus.org/about and the rules prescribed within the Charter. Although your blogs won't reflect the views of the IGC as a whole but you are free to write about anything related to Internet Governance. Happy Blogging! -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, Naveed-ul-Haq Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:55:14 +1200 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Bloggers [IGC Website] For those who are interested in sharing their Blogs related to Internet Governance or blogging about any aspect of Internet Governance. You can log in using your name and password and blog: http://igcaucus.org/blog When blogging keep in mind what the IGC is about: http://igcaucus.org/about and the rules prescribed within the Charter. Although your blogs won't reflect the views of the IGC as a whole but you are free to write about anything related to Internet Governance. Happy Blogging! -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaTSkype:Salanieta.TamanikaiwaimaroCell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From b.schombe at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 13:07:41 2012 From: b.schombe at gmail.com (Baudouin SCHOMBE) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 19:07:41 +0100 Subject: [governance] Remote Participation In-Reply-To: References: <3FAA017C9B294353BC3AF4FB8E3274EC@UserVAIO> Message-ID: I'm not really believe that we must reject the RP option. Physical participation is essential, we must create a physical cable between participation and local actors. Moreover, what is digital technology if it can not solve communication problems and meet our needs? Wherever you may be right is that you know how to create optimal conditions for this process will not stop. The ideas are good but it is the realization and sustainability of these ideas may be of concern. For the case of my country, this is an option worth its weight in gold. But, we must develop a business continuity strategy. Here is the importance of mailing lists that must be alive with compelling content that meet the concerns and interest of the actors involved. SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN Téléphone mobile:+243998983491 email : b.schombe at gmail.com skype : b.schombe blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr Site Web : www.ticafrica.net 2012/3/2 Paul Lehto > I do understand why the request here is for "Remote Participation" but I > would suggest re-framing this request because what people really want is > Participation, not "Remote Participation" per se. > > The goal with things-internet should be to have electronic participation > be as seamless as possible relative to in person participation. I would > suggest a global find/replace to find "Remote Participation" and replace it > with "Participation". If not now, then in the future. A call for > "Participation without visas" does not seem out of line in the age of the > internet, but what is sought is Participation, plain and simple. > > Sent via remote email, > Paul Lehto, J.D. > > P.S. It seems the feeling many have had with technical problems in > participation left them feeling quite "remote" to the process of > participation. :) > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < > salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Statement is available via >> http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/47 >> >> Michael your concerns are factored in the Statement, see Paragraph [4]. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Sala >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:18 AM, michael gurstein wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> (Coming in late, this was caught up in my gmail issues... >>> >>> I'ld like to strongly agree with Ginger in this. For me Remote >>> Participation is not a technical issue but rather has to do with policy. A >>> commitment to "RP" has a lot of implications of which the technical and >>> organizational are only part (and even then may be the least significant). >>> RP implies that the processes of discussion are structured and designed -- >>> including their planning, set-up, execution and follow-on -- in such a way >>> that those who are participating remotely are equally enabled and empowered >>> as those who are participating f2f. >>> >>> Achieving this is a huge undertaking to my mind but one worth pursuing >>> both at the operational and at the policy level. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto: >>> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Ginger Paque >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:47 AM >>> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Adam Peake >>> *Subject:* Re: [governance] Remote Participation >>> >>> Adam said: >>> >>> I think it's petty to complain about technical problems with the >>> transcripts etc from the MAG meeting, bad connections happen all the >>> time (and if MAG members can't work out how to tell a group of people >>> they are having problems with a connection it perhaps says more about >>> them than it does about the secretariat/moderators.) >>> >>> I think that this full discussion and support for RP is very important >>> and exciting. >>> >>> I think that using the occasion of the recent meetings as an example and >>> illustration is a mistake. I agree with Adam that the tech glitches during >>> last week's meetings should not even be addressed--these are obvious. >>> Placing emphasis on tech details draws attention from the more valid, and >>> more important principles. I know I am repeating myself, but I think they >>> boil down to just one: >>> >>> RP must be institutionalized in meeting processes. >>> >>> The only serious problem I see with last week's meetings was the lack of >>> a remote moderator and clear processes. If RP -- and I mean remote >>> participation and remote engagement, not remote observation -- were an >>> automatic, standard part of meeting strategies and processes, the inclusion >>> of an onsite remote moderator would have been a given, as much as the >>> presence of the traditional chair and moderator. I dare to say that if one >>> of the members of the RPWG had been at the meetings, they might have >>> 'requested' to be 'allowed' to act as remote moderator. Remote moderation >>> and remote participation should not depend on collaboration of volunteers >>> and serendipity. Implementation of RP may always need the collaboration of >>> volunteers, and the RPWG exists as a volunteer organization, seeking the >>> privilege of collaborating, but the planning process should originate in >>> the IGF structure itself, not in the action of volunteers. >>> >>> If RP were institutionalized in the IGF process, the Secretariat might >>> ask the RPWG for collaboration, and issue a call for volunteers. >>> >>> If RP were institutionalized in the IGF process, the Secretariat might >>> include a RPWG (or other mechanism) liaison for strategy, planning and >>> process and instead of an endless series of ad hoc situations. >>> >>> If RP were institutionalized, Remote Hubs -- an innovation of the RPWG >>> catalysed by Marilia's energy and organization -- would become part of the >>> IGF process, not the RPWG process, would include remote hubs whenever >>> appropriate and would include support for regional IGFs. >>> >>> I would prefer to see a strong, clear, short statement asking that RP be >>> institutionalised (maybe that is not the appropriate word) as an integral >>> part of the IGF meeting process. >>> >>> Establishing principles and guidelines is separate process which has >>> been started, and should be coordinated to take advantage of, and include >>> the different input. It should not be done in a hurry, in response to one >>> frustrating meeting. Nor should one frustrating meeting opaque the progress >>> the IGF has made toward inclusive RP. We should use this meeting to >>> energize forward progress in an orderly manner. Can we form a better >>> strategy and focus for productive results? I think so. I have not made >>> comments on the existing statement, because I would re-write it completely, >>> with a different approach, with points I have made above. >>> >>> Is it proper/possible for me to propose an alternate text? I do not have >>> the sense that there is consensus for the posts I have made previously, so >>> I have not done so. >>> >>> Anyway, again, my 2 cents. Cheers for the energy around remote >>> participation! >>> >>> Ginger >>> >>> >>> >>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >>> >>> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu >>> Diplo Foundation >>> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme >>> www.diplomacy.edu/ig >>> *The latest from Diplo....*From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the >>> most exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May >>> 2012: *Bilateral Diplomacy*, *Diplomacy of Small States*, and * >>> E-diplomacy*. Apply now to reserve your place: >>> http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses** >>> >>> >>> >>> On 23 February 2012 05:13, Adam Peake wrote: >>> >>>> Comment below: >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>> wrote: >>>> > Dear All, >>>> > >>>> > Firstly thank you Deirdre for copying it onto word and making it much >>>> easier >>>> > to incorporate the new feedback that we received from Schombe, Jovan, >>>> > Anriette, Jeremy, Roland, Mariela etc. >>>> > >>>> > Whilst I am copying the text onto this email, I will also place it on >>>> the >>>> > Statement Workspace as well: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > STATEMENT BY THE CIVIL SOCIETY INTERNET GOVERNANCE CAUCUS ON REMOTE >>>> > PARTICIPATION >>>> > >>>> > We would like to acknowledge the excellent work that the Internet >>>> Governance >>>> > Forum Remote Participation Working Group have been doing over the >>>> last five >>>> > years. We appreciate the numerous hours of sacrifice and work behind >>>> the >>>> > scenes to build remote participation to what it is today. We have >>>> seen how >>>> > whilst Technology is important, that it goes hand in hand with >>>> extraordinary >>>> > levels of sacrifice and commitment. It is this commitment that >>>> enables the >>>> > spirit of the IGF which is in sharing, dialogue, collaboration and >>>> > ultimately access. >>>> > >>>> > We are fortunate that the Internet Governance Forum Secretariat and >>>> UN DESA >>>> > are open .and committed to continued improvements to Remote >>>> Participation. >>>> > Each year the IGF RPWG commences its operations with training of >>>> remote >>>> > moderators many weeks ahead of the meeting, where they discuss with >>>> remote >>>> > hubs and encourage participation and liaise with the Secretariat to >>>> make >>>> > remote participation a reality. >>>> > >>>> > We would like to reiterate and underscore that remote participation >>>> is a >>>> > crucial part of organizing the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) and we >>>> > appreciate the effort to provide remote participation for the Open >>>> > Consultation, the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) meetings, >>>> and the >>>> > MAG meeting this month – February 2012 – which was opened to >>>> observers. >>>> > >>>> > The IGC believes that Remote Participation (RP) should be an integral >>>> part >>>> > of Internet Governance and IGF Policy Processes. It is impossible to >>>> sustain >>>> > an inclusive global policy process without effective remote >>>> participation. >>>> > We would like to explore how we can assist in working together to >>>> address >>>> > the issues raised in 2008 by various stakeholders that have yet to be >>>> > addressed[1]. >>>> > >>>> > The MAG and IGF Secretariats should start working with the host to >>>> ensure >>>> > that real time transcriptions are available for all sessions and not >>>> just >>>> > the Main Sessions. >>>> > >>>> >>>> from the Nairobi chair's summary document: >>>> >>>> "The entire meeting was Webcast, with video streaming provided from >>>> the main session room and audio streaming provided from all workshop >>>> meeting rooms. All the main sessions and workshops had real time >>>> transcription. The text transcripts and video of all meetings were >>>> made available through the IGF Website." >>>> >>>> I think it's petty to complain about technical problems with the >>>> transcripts etc from the MAG meeting, bad connections happen all the >>>> time (and if MAG members can't work out how to tell a group of people >>>> they are having problems with a connection it perhaps says more about >>>> them than it does about the secretariat/moderators.) >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> > We would like to commend the excellent work of the technical team from >>>> > Politecnico di Torino, (The Polytechnic University of Turin) which was >>>> > originally brought by our colleague and former IGC Civil Society >>>> Coordinator >>>> > Vittorio Bertola. >>>> > >>>> > However, we would like to point out some difficulties that occurred >>>> with the >>>> > system during the open MAG meeting. On the third day, morning >>>> session, (the >>>> > second day of the open MAG meeting), remote observers were effectively >>>> > excluded because they had no access to live transcript. >>>> > >>>> > Also MAG members trying to participate online had difficulty in >>>> contacting >>>> > moderators, partly because the moderators were serving more than one >>>> > function. >>>> > >>>> > We strongly urge MAG and IGF Secretariats and ourselves to consider >>>> the >>>> > following for the future IGF organizing work and the IGF itself, and >>>> work >>>> > together to bring them about: >>>> > >>>> > · Ensuring equal participation between online and offline >>>> participants >>>> > through planning meetings to give online and offline participants an >>>> equal >>>> > opportunity to participate and contribute to meetings. >>>> > >>>> > · Ensuring that there is sufficient capacity and appropriate >>>> bandwidth to >>>> > sustain remote participation by liaising with hosts well in advance to >>>> > enable greater interactions from offline participants. >>>> > >>>> > · Preparing a clear comprehensive guideline for remote >>>> participation and >>>> > its moderation and post session or meeting reporting for meeting >>>> hosts, >>>> > facilitators and chairs. >>>> > >>>> > · Clearly advertising opportunities for RP in advance of all >>>> meetings, >>>> > with clear guidance for participants on the opportunities to engage >>>> through >>>> > RP that will be available. >>>> > >>>> > ·Always assigning exclusive remote participation >>>> coordinator/moderators (who >>>> > do not have other jobs at the same time, and are responsible for >>>> > interactions between the meeting’s physical participants/current >>>> speaker, >>>> > the Chair and the remote participants). >>>> > >>>> > · Establishing a clear procedure that would encourage remote >>>> participants >>>> > to intervene. Such a system is desirable both for those physically >>>> present >>>> > in Geneva and those observing the meeting remotely. >>>> > >>>> > · Providing as much interactivity as possible by giving remote >>>> > participants to interact and engage in meetings. >>>> > >>>> > · Providing multiple methods – video, voice and text channel, as >>>> well as >>>> > real-time transcription and video streaming – of coverage of the >>>> meeting >>>> > >>>> > · Enabling the meeting and remote participation through interactive >>>> > presentations access through RP. >>>> > >>>> > · Creating a select Task force or Working Group created that has >>>> > representatives from the Government, Private Sector and Civil Society >>>> that >>>> > is dedicated to seeing improvements of Remote Participation and to >>>> ensure >>>> > the incorporation of critical elements that have been highlighted to >>>> ensure >>>> > improved remote participation processes. >>>> > >>>> > Because only limited funds are available for face- to >>>> -face participation, >>>> > this issue is crucially important to all stakeholders from all >>>> > constituencies who are entitled to participate in the meetings, and >>>> who wish >>>> > to do so from a remote location. Meeting Chairs also play a central >>>> role in >>>> > creating a dynamic and inclusive environment that welcomes remote >>>> > participation. >>>> > >>>> > We also encourage greater partnership between the governments and >>>> private >>>> > sector in enhancing remote participation. >>>> > >>>> > We have to move beyond advocacy to listing and creating tangible >>>> outcomes to >>>> > make improved, stable and sustainable remote participation a reality. >>>> > >>>> > There are regions around the world where transportation is extremely >>>> > expensive and one such region is the Pacific which has 22 countries >>>> and >>>> > territories. Remote participation was the only way that any of these >>>> > countries could access the IGF. >>>> > >>>> > However there is room to improve processes and create an IGF culture >>>> where >>>> > remote participation is prioritised through exploring tested >>>> methodology. >>>> > >>>> > The appropriate technical solutions need also to be explored as well >>>> > bandwidth and ensuring that there is uninterrupted power supply and >>>> > redundancy options where backup generators are critical to maintain a >>>> > consistent and seamless flow. The MAG and IGF Secretariats should also >>>> > ensure that there is sufficient and dedicated bandwidth capacity to >>>> sustain >>>> > the volume of traffic from remote participation. >>>> > >>>> > Aside from having the appropriate technical solutions and should also >>>> > include the following:- >>>> > >>>> > · Outreach. >>>> > >>>> > · Mapping local and regional stakeholders; >>>> > >>>> > · Coordinating with people on the ground significantly before >>>> the >>>> > IGF in a series of strategic roll out. >>>> > >>>> > · Creation of Guidelines for Meeting Chairs and Moderators >>>> whilst >>>> > noting the limitations. >>>> > >>>> > · Identifying how the private sector, civil society and >>>> governments >>>> > can be better involved in the remote hubs etc. >>>> > >>>> > · Encourage greater collaboration between the IGF RPWG and >>>> national, >>>> > sub regional and regional IGFs. >>>> > >>>> > We also express our support of the IGF RPWG which published >>>> guidelines and >>>> > recommendations for remote participation and IGF 2011 WS-67 >>>> participants >>>> > prepared a draft of e-participation principles. >>>> > >>>> > Ends >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ________________________________ >>>> > >>>> > [1] http://wiki.igf-online.net/wiki/IGF_Virtual_Community >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Deirdre Williams >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Dear Sala, >>>> >> I have been unavoidably out of contact all day, and am just catching >>>> up >>>> >> with reading the messages. >>>> >> I am not clear which document you want me to send. >>>> >> I have attached a word copy of my response yesterday, although from >>>> >> reading the discussion that has perhaps been superseded during the >>>> >> discussions today? >>>> >> Please let me know as I would be delighted to help. >>>> >> De >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 22 February 2012 14:15, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Dear Deirdre, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> As you know our initial statement was used by the civil society >>>> component >>>> >>> of the CSTDWG as advised by Marilia. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> If you could please send it in a word document that would be super >>>> >>> helpful and easy to put up on the Statement Workspace. We will also >>>> be >>>> >>> sending our Statement to the IGF Secretariat. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>>> >>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>> >>> Cell: +679 998 2851 <%2B679%20998%202851> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>>> William >>>> >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>>> > >>>> > Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>>> > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>> > Cell: +679 998 2851 <%2B679%20998%202851> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> > >>>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> > >>>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> !DSPAM:2676,4f461b5125626162813518! >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >> Cell: +679 998 2851 >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Paul R Lehto, J.D. > P.O. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 15:48:10 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 08:48:10 +1200 Subject: [governance] WikiLeaks: Stratfor leak shows US's covert plan to prosecute Assange In-Reply-To: <4F4DE27B.5030306@gmail.com> References: <4F4DD2E2.1010608@mail.ngo.za> <4F4DE27B.5030306@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Riaz, Thank you for this and these are some thoughts. This is really interesting. If we look at the case of:- China [alleged imtimidation of Ai Wei Wei for threats against Odre Public/Public Order]; US [alleged intention to prosecute Assange for threats to "national security"]; Pakistan [RFPs for filtering for threats against Public Order]; India [New Delhi - where Court said that ISPs have to block content for threats against Public Order/Moral]; Europe [where ECJ held that the danger of blocking lawful content was a far greater risk in terms of filtering attempts] then we have a deeper appreciation of the need to see what are legitimate exceptions. Sala On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: > > WikiLeaks: Stratfor leak shows US's covert plan to prosecute Assange > Wednesday, February 29, 2012 > Julian Assange. > > WikiLeaks released the statementbelow on February 28. > > * * * > > Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm > Stratfor show that the United States government has had a secret indictment > against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for more than 12 months. > > Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice-President for Counterterrorism and Corporate > Security, is a former Deputy Chief of the Department of State’s (DoS) > counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). > > In early 2011, Burton revealed in internal Stratfor correspondence that a > secret Grand Jury had already issued a sealed indictment for Assange: "Not > for Pub — We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect." (375123) > According to Burton: "Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. > Screw the terrorist. He’ll be eating cat food forever." (1056988) A few > weeks earlier, following Julian Assange’s release from a London jail, where > he had been remanded as a result of a Swedish prosecutor’s arrest warrant, > Fred Burton told SkyNews: "extradition [to the US is] more and more > likely". (373862). > > Emails from Fred Burton reveal that the US government employs the same > counterterrorism strategy against Julian Assange and WikiLeaks as against > Al Qaeda: "Take down the money. Go after his infrastructure. The tools we > are using to nail and de-construct Wiki are the same tools used to > dismantle and track aQ [Al Qaeda]. Thank Cheney & 43 [former US President > George W. Bush]. Big Brother owns his liberal terrorist arse." (1067796) > > Ten days after the CIA reportedly assassinated Osama bin Laden, Burton > writes in an email sent to Stratfor’s "Secure" mailing list that he "can > get access to the materials seized from the OBL [Osama bin Laden] safe > house." (1660854) > > Burton states: "Ferreting out [Julian Assange’s] confederates is also key. > Find out what other disgruntled rogues inside the tent or outside [sic]. > Pile on. Move him from country to country to face various charges for the > next 25 years. But, seize everything he and his family own, to include > every person linked to Wiki." (1056763) > > Along with the FBI, the Diplomatic Security Service and the Department of > Defense (DoD) form a multi-agency US Government outfit seeking to > criminally indict and prosecute WikiLeaks and Julian Assange. According to > the Department of State, the DSS handles the investigation of all leads > that involve the DoS and assists the DoD in forensic analysis of hard > drives seized by the US government in its ongoing criminal investigation. > > Burton also says he "would pursue [c]onspiracy and [p]olitical [t]errorism > charges and declassify the death of a source someone which [he] could link > to Wiki" (1074383). Burton’s strategy is to: "[b]ankrupt the arsehole > first," Burton states, "ruin his life. Give him 7-12 yrs for conspiracy." > (1057220) > > WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said: "For over a year now, the US > Attorny General Eric Holder has been conducting a "secret" Grand Jury > investigation into WikiLeaks. This neo-McCarthyist witch hunt against > WikiLeaks may be Mr Holder’s defining legacy. Any student of American > history knows that secret justice is no justice at all. Justice must be > seen to be done. Legitimate authority arises out of the informed consent of > the governed, not Eric Holder’s press secretary. > > "Secret Grand Juries with secret indictments are apparently Eric Holder’s > preferred method of dealing with publishers who hold his administration to > account. Eric Holder has betrayed the legacy of Madison and Jefferson. He > should drop the case or resign. Should he continue, however, the Obama > administration may not — Democrats and Republicans alike believe in the > right to tell the truth." > > As early as June 2010, after the release of the Collateral Murder video > but prior to the Afghan War Diaries release, the emails talk of a sealed > indictment. In an email conversation between Shane Harris, a National > Security journalist, and Burton, Harris is surprised that Assange was > reporteded to be attending a Las Vegas Investigative Reporters and Editors > (IRE) conference. Burton remarks: "As a foreign national, we could revoke > [Julian Assange’s] travel status and deport. Could also be taken into > custody as a material witness. We COULD have a sealed indictment and lock > him up. Depends upon how far along the military case is" (391504). Julian > Assange cancelled his appearance at the IRE conference due to security > concerns. > > In another email to Stephen Feldhaus, Stratfor legal counsel, about Ronald > Kessler, a "pro-FBI journalist", Burton remarks: “I look forward to Manning > and Assange facing a bajillion-thousand counts [of espionage]." (1035283) > > In July 2010 alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning was moved from Camp > Arifjan, Kuwait to the Quantico Brig in the Military District of Washington > at the request of Maj. Gen. Terry Wolff, then Commanding General of the 1st > Armored Division/US Division – Center in Iraq. > > Wolff requested Manning’s move, the Pentagon reported, "due to a > potentially lengthy pre-trial confinement because of the complexity of the > charges and an ongoing investigation.” Three days before Manning arrived at > Quantico Brig, Burton wrote to George Friedman, Stratfor CEO and founder: > > “We probably asked the ASIS [Australian Secret Intelligence Service] to > monitor Wiki coms and email, after the soldier from Potomac was nabbed. So, > it’s reasonable to assume we probably already know who has done it. The > delay could be figuring out how to declassify and use the Aussie intel on > Wiki... The owner [Julian Assange] is a peacenik. He needs his head dunked > in a full toilet bowl at Gitmo.” (402168) > > The GI Files: http://wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html > > Please donate: http://shop.wikileaks.org/donate > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To some, the openness and interoperability is one of the greatest achievements of mankind in our lifetime. Do not give that up easily. You will regret it. You will hate it, because all of a sudden all that freedom, all that flexibility, you'll find it shipped away for one good reason after another," Schmidt said. "I cannot be more emphatic. Be very, very careful about moves which seem logical, but have the effect of balkanising the internet," he added, urging everyone to strongly resist the moves. The ITU is part of the United Nations and began discussing proposed changes that would take control from groups that were there at the inception of the Internet, such as ICANN. The proposals are rumored to be supported by China and Russia. Eric Schmidt's comments came from a question and answer period at the Mobile World Congress 2012 held in Barcelona, focusing on the future of mobile strategy and technology. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 08:40:57 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:40:57 +0200 Subject: [governance] China's remarks to the HRC panel on freedom of expression and the Internet In-Reply-To: References: <90C52C20-3287-42D3-AC86-57A813BD149F@uzh.ch> Message-ID: <4F50CDE9.1060504@gmail.com> Lehto Thanks for this post and your insights. Glad that someone is taking up the jealous liberal stance. One factor that needs to be taken into account is the relative power of countries. The US is exceptional, in the sense that it is a global power, with a "monopoly" on CIR in many respects. Also, it would seem like the list of supporting states for this declaration could almost be conflated with either rogue, axis of evil, or "unapproaved" regimes. The experience of these countries, i.e. interference in their affairs (from Reagan who said he was a "contra", through to the coup of Chavez, or the National Endowment of Democracy or similar groups funding the "greens" in Iran, etc, etc) should be kept in mind. This makes for complicated analysis, but coherence and even handedness are good defences to taking on these issues (as is evident, poor countries are in situations that democracy can be "hijacked" by "other" forces" besides the legitimate aspirations of the people - coming soon to a humanitarian invasion near you). We should not stifle debate and responses to Parminder's note would instructive... especially if we are interested in advancing a just cause for all, instead of being right... In other words, pretensions of human rights should not blind us to its parochial or political interpretations... Peace Riaz On 2012/03/01 09:43 PM, Paul Lehto wrote: > The Joint Statement delivered by China below is a perfect example of > an invocation of the most enforceable human "right" there is: The > "right" to support the sovereignty and actions of the incumbent regime > in one's home country. This right of supporting the powers the be is > rarely violated, and is so common and non-controversial as to be > omitted from most human rights instruments, but it is still the > implicit foundation of the Joint Statement delivered by China: > > /"Mr. Moderator, all stakeholders of the international community > should take concerted efforts *_to prevent and combat the abuse of > freedom of expression on the Internet_*. I*nternet *_*users of all > countries* should respect the rights and dignities of others, > contribute to maintaining social stability_, and safeguarding national > security. The internet’s industry should act to foster a crime-free, > reliable and secure cyberspace. Governments should strengthen > legislation in the field of internet regulation and law enforcement > activities with the aim of combating criminal activities."/ > > Earlier in the Joint Statement, they make clear in more detail what > the "abuses" of freedom of expression are. > > /"The *abuse of the freedom of expression*, on the internet in > particular, can encroach on the rights and dignity of other > individuals, undermine social safety and stability, even threaten > national security. The Internet is often used to propagate terrorism, > extremism, racism, xenophobia, _even ideas of toppling legitimate > authorities_. Moreoever, *the Internet is used by some groups to > distort facts, exaggerate situations,* provoke violence, and *attempt > to exaggerate tension wherever it appears to obtain political benefits.*" > / > Under the Joint Statement, "all users" of the Internet (which > apparently includes those of us here on the IGC) should cooperate to > "maintain social stability" and combat "abuses of freedom of > expression" by those who "distort facts, exaggerate situations ... and > attempt to exaggerate tension wherever it appears to obtain political > benefits." To me, this Joint Statement is a clear invocation of the > "right" to support incumbent regimes, styled as being a position "in > strict accordance with international law" of human rights, which does > give credence to national sovereignty ideas. To do so, they cite > Article 19/20 of the ICCPR and other international law. > > The original statement on human rights that I drafted was anchored in > a non-rights concept, namely that /the case for interference with free > expression must always be the more difficult one to make than the case > for upholding free expression/. One commenter noted that this was an > "important point" but unfortunately it got edited out of the final > statement, and instead several expression mentions of international > human rights law were inserted. (Such laws will always be useless in > domestic courts precisely when they are needed the most) > > No Country is particularly principled when it comes to upholding > trenchant criticism of its governing policies or legitimacy, but this > is precisely the moment and the context when freedom of expression is > most important: to foster a peaceful process of change via changing > others' opinions of the incumbent regime. > > If not only violence or attempts to provoke violence are prohibited > free expression, but also speech that, as the Joint Statement puts it, > tends not to "promote social stability" is also prohibited, then *_all > peaceful and_ all violent means of social change* on the internet are > effectively prohibited. > > None of us truly needs a "right" to be a loyal citizen, to keep to > one's own business, or to support the incumbent regime. We need > rights only to protect us when some other powerful person or > organization doesn't like what we have to say. Supporting the > incumbent regime's security efforts may be "expression" but it is not > free expression in the truest sense, in that it doesn't require the > support of a right to encourage and foster its expression. > > The rights that mean the most are the ones that are being, or might > be, violated. Like anything that is valuable, important human rights > are subject to being stolen or violated. We should not confuse the > extent of the violation of a right with the existence of the right or > the enforceability of a right. > > If we do confuse human rights with the concepts of enforceability of > those rights in domestic courts or under national laws, there will > never be "rights without borders". > > As someone trained in the law, I of course do not oppose expansion of > the recognition and enforcement of human rights globally, in domestic > courts and elsewhere. But the most important times for human rights > to apply will always be when domestic courts are of absolutely no use > whatsoever, such as in Nazi Germany or cases of genocide. This is why > we must, in my opinion, always keep our independence from not only > national law, but even international law (in the sense in which > international law is interpreted in domestic courts at least). > > Paul Lehto, J.D. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, William Drake > wrote: > > http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/2012/02/china-panel-on-right-to-freedom-of-expression-19th-session-human-rights-council.html > > On behalf of Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, > Congo, Cuba, DPRK, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Mauritania, > Myanmar, Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Palestine, Philippines, > Russia, Saudi Arabia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, > Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Zimbabwe. > > > > > > > > *************************************************** > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch > www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake > > www.williamdrake.org > **************************************************** > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > Paul R Lehto, J.D. > P.O. Box 1 > Ishpeming, MI 49849 > lehto.paul at gmail.com > 906-204-4026 (cell) > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 17:40:26 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:40:26 +0200 Subject: [governance] WikiLeaks: Stratfor leak shows US's covert plan to prosecute Assange In-Reply-To: References: <4F4DD2E2.1010608@mail.ngo.za> <4F4DE27B.5030306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F514C5A.80904@gmail.com> Yes it would be very good if a General Comment could be worked on in relevant HR committees, this is essential to getting some of the challenges related to the medium (these would have to be a sufficient level of generality). Perhaps it should anticipate changes as user needs change. I suppose it will also involve some responsibilities on the part of users too. But general contracting principles, like fair contracting terms, may be a useful guide. The trouble is imperial actions and/or pretensions do bread paranoid politics in developing countries. And we need to be cognisant of the fact that some of the vested interests strengthened by their influence on government positions in the rich countries for developing countries tend to "blowback" to the developed world. Riaz On 2012/03/02 10:48 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > Dear Riaz, > > Thank you for this and these are some thoughts. This is really > interesting. If we look at the case of:- > > China [alleged imtimidation of Ai Wei Wei for threats against > Odre Public/Public Order]; > US [alleged intention to prosecute Assange for threats to "national > security"]; > Pakistan [RFPs for filtering for threats against Public Order]; > India [New Delhi - where Court said that ISPs have to block content > for threats against Public Order/Moral]; > Europe [where ECJ held that the danger of blocking lawful content was > a far greater risk in terms of filtering attempts] > > then we have a deeper appreciation of the need to see what are > legitimate exceptions. > > Sala > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Riaz K Tayob > wrote: > > > WikiLeaks: Stratfor leak shows US's covert plan to prosecute Assange > > Wednesday, February 29, 2012 > Julian Assange. > > WikiLeaks released the statement > below on > February 28. > > * * * > > Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm > Stratfor show that the United States government has had a secret > indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for more than > 12 months. > > Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice-President for Counterterrorism and > Corporate Security, is a former Deputy Chief of the Department of > State’s (DoS) counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic > Security Service (DSS). > > In early 2011, Burton revealed in internal Stratfor correspondence > that a secret Grand Jury had already issued a sealed indictment > for Assange: "Not for Pub — We have a sealed indictment on > Assange. Pls protect." (375123) According to Burton: "Assange is > going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He’ll > be eating cat food forever." (1056988) A few weeks earlier, > following Julian Assange’s release from a London jail, where he > had been remanded as a result of a Swedish prosecutor’s arrest > warrant, Fred Burton told SkyNews: "extradition [to the US is] > more and more likely". (373862). > > Emails from Fred Burton reveal that the US government employs the > same counterterrorism strategy against Julian Assange and > WikiLeaks as against Al Qaeda: "Take down the money. Go after his > infrastructure. The tools we are using to nail and de-construct > Wiki are the same tools used to dismantle and track aQ [Al Qaeda]. > Thank Cheney & 43 [former US President George W. Bush]. Big > Brother owns his liberal terrorist arse." (1067796) > > Ten days after the CIA reportedly assassinated Osama bin Laden, > Burton writes in an email sent to Stratfor’s "Secure" mailing list > that he "can get access to the materials seized from the OBL > [Osama bin Laden] safe house." (1660854) > > Burton states: "Ferreting out [Julian Assange’s] confederates is > also key. Find out what other disgruntled rogues inside the tent > or outside [sic]. Pile on. Move him from country to country to > face various charges for the next 25 years. But, seize everything > he and his family own, to include every person linked to Wiki." > (1056763) > > Along with the FBI, the Diplomatic Security Service and the > Department of Defense (DoD) form a multi-agency US Government > outfit seeking to criminally indict and prosecute WikiLeaks and > Julian Assange. According to the Department of State, the DSS > handles the investigation of all leads that involve the DoS and > assists the DoD in forensic analysis of hard drives seized by the > US government in its ongoing criminal investigation. > > Burton also says he "would pursue [c]onspiracy and [p]olitical > [t]errorism charges and declassify the death of a source someone > which [he] could link to Wiki" (1074383). Burton’s strategy is to: > "[b]ankrupt the arsehole first," Burton states, "ruin his life. > Give him 7-12 yrs for conspiracy." (1057220) > > WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said: "For over a year now, the > US Attorny General Eric Holder has been conducting a "secret" > Grand Jury investigation into WikiLeaks. This neo-McCarthyist > witch hunt against WikiLeaks may be Mr Holder’s defining legacy. > Any student of American history knows that secret justice is no > justice at all. Justice must be seen to be done. Legitimate > authority arises out of the informed consent of the governed, not > Eric Holder’s press secretary. > > "Secret Grand Juries with secret indictments are apparently Eric > Holder’s preferred method of dealing with publishers who hold his > administration to account. Eric Holder has betrayed the legacy of > Madison and Jefferson. He should drop the case or resign. Should > he continue, however, the Obama administration may not — Democrats > and Republicans alike believe in the right to tell the truth." > > As early as June 2010, after the release of the Collateral Murder > video but prior to the Afghan War Diaries release, the emails talk > of a sealed indictment. In an email conversation between Shane > Harris, a National Security journalist, and Burton, Harris is > surprised that Assange was reporteded to be attending a Las Vegas > Investigative Reporters and Editors (IRE) conference. Burton > remarks: "As a foreign national, we could revoke [Julian > Assange’s] travel status and deport. Could also be taken into > custody as a material witness. We COULD have a sealed indictment > and lock him up. Depends upon how far along the military case is" > (391504). Julian Assange cancelled his appearance at the IRE > conference due to security concerns. > > In another email to Stephen Feldhaus, Stratfor legal counsel, > about Ronald Kessler, a "pro-FBI journalist", Burton remarks: “I > look forward to Manning and Assange facing a bajillion-thousand > counts [of espionage]." (1035283) > > In July 2010 alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning was moved > from Camp Arifjan, Kuwait to the Quantico Brig in the Military > District of Washington at the request of Maj. Gen. Terry Wolff, > then Commanding General of the 1st Armored Division/US Division – > Center in Iraq. > > Wolff requested Manning’s move, the Pentagon reported, "due to a > potentially lengthy pre-trial confinement because of the > complexity of the charges and an ongoing investigation.” Three > days before Manning arrived at Quantico Brig, Burton wrote to > George Friedman, Stratfor CEO and founder: > > “We probably asked the ASIS [Australian Secret Intelligence > Service] to monitor Wiki coms and email, after the soldier from > Potomac was nabbed. So, it’s reasonable to assume we probably > already know who has done it. The delay could be figuring out how > to declassify and use the Aussie intel on Wiki... The owner > [Julian Assange] is a peacenik. He needs his head dunked in a full > toilet bowl at Gitmo.” (402168) > > The GI Files: http://wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html > > Please donate: http://shop.wikileaks.org/donate > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Special vehicles will be provided for those with limited mobility Venue: Proposal that Opening & Closing session take place at the Heydar Aliyev Palace. Organizing committee is proposing that the IGF not take place at one single venue, but instead be “split” among 3 key hotels NOTE: the comment that the venue would be “split” caused an immediate reaction from some of the key private sector and civil society representatives at the Open Consultation. * Concern that multiple venues will make logistics very complex and increase time required to move around different “IGF spaces” * IGF Secretariat mentioned that the UN Security team has – NOT YET – visited the (proposed) venue * Bakutel (18th Annual Azerbaijan International Telecommunications conference, 7-10Nov) is also taking place in Baku. (http://www.bakutel.com) * Concern by many that this would fragment and/or dilute IGF audience * Concern that with 2 events taking place at the same time accommodation will be at a premium and difficult to obtain * Concern that Bakutel and IGF might be hosted at the same venue. Visas : Arrangements with Azeri foreign ministry are being negotiated. An expedited process is likely to be arranged so as to make “process as easy as possible”. Normally can take up to 5-7 days for a visa to obtained. This will be expedited for IGF participants. Comment made that “will try and see if Visas can be obtained upon arrival” by IGF participants. Information about visas will be announced no later then 3 months before event (Aug 2012) Flights: Airport : Heydar Aliyev International Airport (IATA: GYD) Served by several airlines: * Aeroflot (Moscow), BMI Codeshare (London) , Austrian Airlines (Vienna), Turkish Airlines (Istanbul), (Dubai), Qatar Airlines (Doha), (Milan) and Lufthansa (Frankfurt) * Air Baltic also offers flights with good prices from/via Riga. * Comprehensive list of Airlines servicing Baku can be found here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heydar_Aliyev_International_Airport Accommodation: A variety of options will be available – from “Guest Houses” to 5 star hotels Request is made for people “not yet to book hotels”, as “preferred rates will be negotiated” Host country website where one will be able to obtain additional details and IGF negotiated rate will be available in 2-3 weeks (by 1st week in March) Refs: http://wikitravel.org/en/Baku https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku Map of Baku - http://goo.gl/8iEgy . Google Map for Baku - http://g.co/maps/r25zm Summary of key Interventions and/or announcements 1. A variety of organizations and/or countries announced they were contributing funding to the IGF secretariat: (Number Resource Organisation (NRO) ISOC (will increase funding from 10K to 50K USD UK. Will make 15,000 £ donation (Approx 24, 900 USD) 2. Azerbaijan – Details of 2012 IGF Will take place in November (Week of Nov 5th) Will start with (closed) ministerial meeting on the 5th, and IGF will start on the 6th Concurs with the Chinese delegation’s view that Human rights should not appear in the nor in the title of the next IGF nor as a key cross cutting theme. 3. Brazil – Creation of a UNESCO Regional Centre on the Information Society For training of Govts & Civil Society on Internet Governance Hopes regional centre will contribute to enhanced knowledge and participation of developing countries at IGF 4. Argentina – South-South School on Internet Governance Will take place 19-23 March in Bogota http://www.south-ssig.com.ar/ 5. Kuwait Information Technology Society : 1st Annual Arab IGF Will take place in Early Oct, in Kuwait Contact : Qusai Al-Shatti, qshatti at gmail.com 6. IGF Secretariat – IGF update Call for MAG candidates was extended until Feb 24th (mostly due to requests by Govts, who have not yet named their reps) Special Advisor to the Secretary General has not yet been named. This is a prerogative of the Secretary General Executive Coordinator Position has not yet been filled The UN recruitment office reviewed over 100 applications. Short list has been developed. IGF trust fund does is not yet large enough to support the position and run the secretariat. Filling the position on hold until “adequate funds” are available to appoint someone to the position Call for workshop proposals will be issued in March Renewed MAG will meet in May (during WSIS week) – week of May 13th. Open IGF consultation – 15 May, Open MAG meeting – 16, 17 May 8. Proposed Topics (Proposed at the open consultation, not the open MAG meeting) Economic development (China) Accessibility & Disability (Hungary) There should be a focus on “current developments” (Egypt) A ministerial meeting should take place the day before (Egypt) Cloud Computing (Indonesia) Cyber Security (Indonesia) Access (Indonesia) Multi-Linguisim (Indonesia) Internet Filtering (Argentina, CitizenLab, LACNIC, ISOC) Privacy (CitizenLab, LACNIC) Human Rights (Sweden, Finland, Argentina, APC, CitizenLab) Developing Country Perspectives (ICC) Economic Growth & Job Creation (Walt Disney/ICC, EU) Security, Openness & Privacy (UK, EU, Walt Disney/ICC) New Models of sharing content (Argentina) Internet Governance for Sustainable development (Pakistan & China) Internet Intermediaries Critical Internet Resources ICTs for disaster management/preparedness ICT for development (Azerbaijan) Creating an enabling environment (UK) Cloud Computing, particularly in Developing countries (GIIC) Social Networks & Role of Youth (Azerbaijan) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Because news stories are submitted and voted up social media style, it used to be one of the best sources on the web for alternative news./ /I am personally one of the top 100 or so posters to Reddit. Specifically, I have submitted many stories written by other authors on other websites, and have more than 150,000 “karma” points./ /As such, I am saddened to see Reddit go the way of Digg and other sites which have been ruined by censorship./ The Bush administration gutted free speech rights by limiting protesters to “free speech zones ” which were often miles away from the meetings or conventions being protested, and well away from the media spotlight. For example, here is the “free speech zone” for protesters at the 2004 Democratic National Convention: First amendment zone2 Social Media Giants Set Up Free Speech Zones to Censor Dissent blank Social Media Giants Set Up Free Speech Zones to Censor Dissent First amendment zone1 Social Media Giants Set Up Free Speech Zones to Censor Dissent Obviously, whatever speech protesters made went unheard. Which is no different from censoring the speech. Social media sites like Reddit are doing the same thing. For example, a friend submitted the following world news stories to the largest Reddit category, WorldNews*: * 81% of Israelis Oppose Unilateral Strike on Iran * Iran’s Head Religious Leader: The Production, Possession, Use or Threatened Use of Nuclear Weapons Is a “Great Sin” Reddit filtered the stories out, and moderator davidreiss666 said: Please summit those to /r/WorldPolitics or /r/Israel instead. Thank you.” Worldnews has more than /1,200,000/ readers. Posting on Worldnews means one’s speech will be heard … like protesting in front of a convention. In contrast, Reddit’s Worldpolitics section has less than 50,000 readers. And the Israel section has just over 7,000 readers. These are back alleys where almost no one goes. So Reddit is doing just what George W. Bush did: banishing protest to “free speech zones”. Note 1: See this for background on censorship by Reddit and other social media websites. Note 2: It is not a lack of understanding of Reddit’s rules which is causing this site to be censored on Reddit. For example, the friend submitting the posts to Reddit is one of the 20 most popular Redditors. Two Reddit moderators – one who is much more popular than davidreiss666 – support the right of this site to free speech. /And – prior to the involvement of 1 or 2 moderators who have decided to censor this site – stories from this site were voted up to Reddit’s front page on numerous occasions./ This proves that it is the political agenda of certain moderators – rather than failure to follow posting guidelines or a lack of interest in stories from this site – which is the main problem. /* The politics category has 1,173,005 subscribers; but you can’t post world news stories to politics. In addition, davidreiss666 is also a moderator of the politics Reddit, he has stated that he wants to ban submissions from Washington’s Blog, and we appear to be censored there, as well./ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nhklein at gmx.net Thu Mar 1 20:56:12 2012 From: nhklein at gmx.net (nhklein) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 08:56:12 +0700 Subject: [governance] Is this for real? In-Reply-To: References: <1AB5C29E-4E14-4AE0-860B-0FC40A7E4828@privaterra.org> <4F4CE5B8.8010604@digsys.bg> <4F4DEA42.6080600@digsys.bg> <67PH82Dd5iTPFAql@internetpolicyagency.com> Message-ID: <4F5028BC.3000708@gmx.net> On 03/02/2012 12:13 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > ...Bottom line, the law may correct tomorrow the technology loopholes or > excesses of today, but there will be new ones by then. More proactive > strategies that will enable a plurality of value propositions (both > figuratively and literally) to the consumers and citizens --and show > the world the proof that is hidden in the pudding-- would be a better > way, IMHO. > > You may replace in the above, Europe by any other country or region > sharing the same norms... Thanks, Mawaki, for sharing the obvious (which is not seen as obvious to many). Norbert Klein -- In April 2011, I started a new blog: ...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia http://www.thinking21.org/ continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia. This is my latest postings: The Russian Prime Minister Putin prepares for the next elections (17.2.2012) http://www.thinking21.org/?p=780 Why such selective law enforcement? (20.2.2012) http://www.thinking21.org/?p=794 Myanmar’s Roadmap to Democracy (27.2.2012 http://www.thinking21.org/?p=800 Norbert Klein nhklein at gmx.net Phnom Penh / Cambodia -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 01:30:59 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 18:30:59 +1200 Subject: [governance] Feb IGF12 Consultations / Draft Notes In-Reply-To: <5F23F90A-905C-435D-A562-34D662900EA4@privaterra.org> References: <5F23F90A-905C-435D-A562-34D662900EA4@privaterra.org> Message-ID: Thank you Robert for this comprehensive report. Kind Regards, Sala On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Wanted to share with the list my very summarized notes from the Open IGF > consultation & Open MAG meeting that took place this past Feb in Geneva > > > > Azerbaijan – Information regarding 2012 IGF > > - Will take place in November (Week of Nov 5th): Nov 5 (Monday) > Ministerial meeting, Nov 6 (Tuesday) IGF Start > - Several venues are being considered: The Baku Expo Centre or > Hilton+ Park Inn > - Key hotels: Park Inn, Hilton Hotel & Marriott (Park Inn & Hilton > are next to each other) > - Shuttle buses will be arranged. Special vehicles will be provided > for those with limited mobility > > Venue: > Proposal that Opening & Closing session take place at the Heydar > Aliyev Palace. > Organizing committee is proposing that the IGF not take place at > one single venue, but instead be “split” among 3 key hotels > > NOTE: the comment that the venue would be “split” caused an > immediate reaction from some of the key private sector and civil society > representatives at the Open Consultation. > > * Concern that multiple venues will make logistics very complex and > increase time required to move around different “IGF spaces” > * IGF Secretariat mentioned that the UN Security team has – NOT YET > – visited the (proposed) venue > * Bakutel (18th Annual Azerbaijan International Telecommunications > conference, 7-10Nov) is also taking place in Baku. ( > http://www.bakutel.com) > * Concern by many that this would fragment and/or dilute IGF audience > * Concern that with 2 events taking place at the same time > accommodation will be at a premium and difficult to obtain > * Concern that Bakutel and IGF might be hosted at the same venue. > > Visas : Arrangements with Azeri foreign ministry are being negotiated. > An expedited process is likely to be arranged so as to make > “process as easy as possible”. > Normally can take up to 5-7 days for a visa to obtained. This will > be expedited for IGF participants. > Comment made that “will try and see if Visas can be obtained upon > arrival” by IGF participants. > Information about visas will be announced no later then 3 months > before event (Aug 2012) > > Flights: > Airport : Heydar Aliyev International Airport (IATA: GYD) > Served by several airlines: > * Aeroflot (Moscow), BMI Codeshare (London) , Austrian Airlines > (Vienna), Turkish Airlines (Istanbul), (Dubai), Qatar Airlines (Doha), > (Milan) and Lufthansa (Frankfurt) > * Air Baltic also offers flights with good prices from/via Riga. > * Comprehensive list of Airlines servicing Baku can be found here - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heydar_Aliyev_International_Airport > > Accommodation: > A variety of options will be available – from “Guest Houses” to 5 > star hotels > Request is made for people “not yet to book hotels”, as “preferred > rates will be negotiated” > Host country website where one will be able to obtain additional > details and IGF negotiated rate will be available in 2-3 weeks (by 1st week > in March) > > Refs: > http://wikitravel.org/en/Baku > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku > Map of Baku - http://goo.gl/8iEgy > . Google Map for Baku - http://g.co/maps/r25zm > > > > Summary of key Interventions and/or announcements > > 1. A variety of organizations and/or countries announced they were > contributing funding to the IGF secretariat: > (Number Resource Organisation (NRO) > ISOC (will increase funding from 10K to 50K USD > UK. Will make 15,000 £ donation (Approx 24, 900 USD) > > 2. Azerbaijan – Details of 2012 IGF > Will take place in November (Week of Nov 5th) > Will start with (closed) ministerial meeting on the 5th, and IGF > will start on the 6th > Concurs with the Chinese delegation’s view that Human rights should > not appear in the nor in the title of the next IGF nor as a key cross > cutting theme. > > 3. Brazil – Creation of a UNESCO Regional Centre on the Information > Society > For training of Govts & Civil Society on Internet Governance > Hopes regional centre will contribute to enhanced knowledge and > participation of developing countries at IGF > > 4. Argentina – South-South School on Internet Governance > Will take place 19-23 March in Bogota > http://www.south-ssig.com.ar/ > > 5. Kuwait Information Technology Society : 1st Annual Arab IGF > Will take place in Early Oct, in Kuwait > Contact : Qusai Al-Shatti, qshatti at gmail.com > > > 6. IGF Secretariat – IGF update > Call for MAG candidates was extended until Feb 24th (mostly due to > requests by Govts, who have not yet named their reps) > Special Advisor to the Secretary General has not yet been named. > This is a prerogative of the Secretary General > > Executive Coordinator Position has not yet been filled > > The UN recruitment office reviewed over 100 applications. Short > list has been developed. IGF trust fund does is not yet large enough to > support the position and run the secretariat. Filling the position on hold > until “adequate funds” are available to appoint someone to the position > > Call for workshop proposals will be issued in March > Renewed MAG will meet in May (during WSIS week) – week of May 13th. > Open IGF consultation – 15 May, Open MAG meeting – 16, 17 May > > > > 8. Proposed Topics (Proposed at the open consultation, not the open > MAG meeting) > > Economic development (China) > Accessibility & Disability (Hungary) > There should be a focus on “current developments” (Egypt) > A ministerial meeting should take place the day before (Egypt) > Cloud Computing (Indonesia) > Cyber Security (Indonesia) > Access (Indonesia) > Multi-Linguisim (Indonesia) > Internet Filtering (Argentina, CitizenLab, LACNIC, ISOC) > Privacy (CitizenLab, LACNIC) > Human Rights (Sweden, Finland, Argentina, APC, CitizenLab) > Developing Country Perspectives (ICC) > Economic Growth & Job Creation (Walt Disney/ICC, EU) > Security, Openness & Privacy (UK, EU, Walt Disney/ICC) > New Models of sharing content (Argentina) > Internet Governance for Sustainable development (Pakistan & China) > Internet Intermediaries > Critical Internet Resources > ICTs for disaster management/preparedness > ICT for development (Azerbaijan) > Creating an enabling environment (UK) > Cloud Computing, particularly in Developing countries (GIIC) > Social Networks & Role of Youth (Azerbaijan) > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > > For those who are interested in sharing their Blogs related to Internet > Governance or blogging about any aspect of Internet Governance. You can log > in using your name and password and blog: http://igcaucus.org/blog > > When blogging keep in mind what the IGC is about: > http://igcaucus.org/about and the rules prescribed within the Charter. > > Although your blogs won't reflect the views of the IGC as a whole but you > are free to write about anything related to Internet Governance. > > > Happy Blogging! > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From william.drake at uzh.ch Sat Mar 3 04:30:38 2012 From: william.drake at uzh.ch (William Drake) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 10:30:38 +0100 Subject: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR? In-Reply-To: References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> Hi Tulika There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and questions for the CIR session. Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!), migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants, the government reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their thoughts either way. Since you are not on the (still active) 2011 MAG I don't know if you can join, but you might try, otherwise I'd be happy to pass along any statements from you as inputs. Best Bill On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY wrote: > Dear All, > > I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his inputs on ITU initiatives. > > > Tulika Pandey > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Dear people, > > The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the > IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet > resources": > > --- begin doc citation --- > > 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several > commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the > institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP > addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points. > > 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues > theme, including, inter alia; > > • Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet; > > • IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that > may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion > of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries? > > • What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names, > i.e. IDN.IDN? > > • Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and > IDN gTLDs; > > • Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues > drive or impact policy. > > --- end doc citation --- > > In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at, > among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take > account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above > points are far from sufficient. > > At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU > meetings' outcomes. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > _______________________________________________ > igf_members mailing list > igf_members at intgovforum.org > http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org > > > > -- > Tulika Pandey > Additional Director > Department of Information Technology > Room 3089, Electronics Niketan > 6 CGO Complex, New Delhi - 110 003 > > Tel(0): 91-11-24364739 > Mob: +91- 9810670981 > _______________________________________________ > igf-cir mailing list > igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se > http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Mar 3 04:32:14 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 10:32:14 +0100 Subject: [governance] Privacy, USG & RFC References: <5F23F90A-905C-435D-A562-34D662900EA4@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC92A@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr_privacy_rfc_notice_03052012.pdf FYI wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From isolatednet at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 05:18:43 2012 From: isolatednet at gmail.com (Sivasubramanian M) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 15:48:43 +0530 Subject: [governance] Privacy, USG & RFC In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC92A@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <5F23F90A-905C-435D-A562-34D662900EA4@privaterra.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC92A@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: Dear Wolfgang I like the title, for a start. "*Multistakeholder Process* to Develop Consumer Data Privacy Codes of Conduct" Sivasubramanian M On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" < wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote: > > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr_privacy_rfc_notice_03052012.pdf > > FYI > > wolfgang > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Mar 3 05:52:58 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:52:58 +0100 Subject: SV: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR? References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC92B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Hi all Bill is right in making some critical observations with regard to the CIR session ion Baku. However we have to see all the WGs in a certain interdependence. I am engaged in the "emerging issues" WG, chaired by Romolo. Here we want to discuss in detail the emerging political and legal frameworks for the global Internet. Our plan is to go beyond rather general discussions (as we had in Nairobi) around proposed "principles" (COE, OECD) and various "projects" (IBSA, Shanghai) but to look forward towards the emergence of a general (multistakeholder) "Framework of Commitments" in which the various governmental activities at the national and international level (as WCIT, ACTA, SOPA, CIRP, CoC, G8 etc.) - are embedded. This should not be the outdated version of "Governmental Control vs. Private Sector Leadership", but it should try to figure out what the respective roles of the stakeholders in the Internet of tomorrow could and should be, based on shared principls and policies. It is still vague, but input is more than welcome. Best wishes wolfgang ________________________________ Fra: William Drake [mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch] Sendt: lø 03-03-2012 10:30 Til: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; IGF Members; governance at lists.igcaucus.org Emne: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR? Hi Tulika There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and questions for the CIR session. Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!), migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants, the government reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their thoughts either way. Since you are not on the (still active) 2011 MAG I don't know if you can join, but you might try, otherwise I'd be happy to pass along any statements from you as inputs. Best Bill On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY wrote: Dear All, I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his inputs on ITU initiatives. Tulika Pandey On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: Dear people, The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet resources": --- begin doc citation --- 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points. 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues theme, including, inter alia; * Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet; * IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries? * What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names, i.e. IDN.IDN? * Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and IDN gTLDs; * Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues drive or impact policy. --- end doc citation --- In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at, among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above points are far from sufficient. At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU meetings' outcomes. fraternal regards --c.a. _______________________________________________ igf_members mailing list igf_members at intgovforum.org http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org -- Tulika Pandey Additional Director Department of Information Technology Room 3089, Electronics Niketan 6 CGO Complex, New Delhi - 110 003 Tel(0): 91-11-24364739 Mob: +91- 9810670981 _______________________________________________ igf-cir mailing list igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Mar 3 07:10:40 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 13:10:40 +0100 Subject: [governance] Report IGF Improvment References: <4F4DD2E2.1010608@mail.ngo.za> <4F4DE27B.5030306@gmail.com> <4F514C5A.80904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC92C@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Hi everybody the draft of the Report of the UNCSTD IGF Improvement Working Group is now nearly ready. Time to summarize some experiences, reflections and conclusions from inside: 1. The WG was another good exersice that multistakeholder collaboration works in reality. If you remember the beginning: it was first designed as a "governmental only" WG. Then, after protest and pressure, 15 non-governmental individuals, including five from civil society, were included but it was uncelar whether they will have only "secondary status". Furthermore, the two first meetings were overshadowed by intergovernmental conflicts which prevented the achievement of consensus recommendation for the UNCSTD meeting in May 2011. After ECOSOC extended the mandate - and the UNGA disconnected the discussion around "enhanced cooperation" from "IGF Improvment" - the climate in the group changed from mistrust to constructive collaboration. Non-governmental participants, including civil society, were treated as "equals" by the chair and nobody protested. In contrary, the contributions of those NGO-individuals enriched substantially the debate and allowed the chair and the group as a whole to move towards a better understanding and, at the end, to rough consensus over a number of key issues. It is worth to mention, that the "equal treatment" continued also in the drafting process when the chair was looking for "language". Text proposed by civil society made its way directly into the final document and it was very welcomed by the other stakeholders, including governments. This could not be expected in the beginning. 2. With regard to substance one has to be fair: The report is a good step in the right direction, but it is not a "big step". But who expected a "revolution" for an evolutionary process which is still in its early stage? The debate reached a moment where we discussed whether the WG is for "IGF change" or "IGF Improvement"? Right, there was an expectation that the WG will propose "IGF change". But what this would have mean in this concrete case? Back to an intergovernmentel body? The WG was wise enough to avoid radical changes and to prefer the step-by-step approach, strenthening the multistakeholder model by taking into account that the "respective roles" of the involved stakeholders has to be further developed. With other words, it would make sense to establish another IGF Improvment WG in 2015 to evaluate what has been achieved. Such a ongoing process could work similar to ICANNs review mechanism, where multistakeholder review teams work on recommendations for ICANN improvment in concrete fields. 3. There are a number of recommendations in the report which will drive the IGF beyond its present format to make it more effective, more professionell, more inclusive, more democratic, more balanced. The report is not "IGF is good, keep going", it says IGF is good but could be done better or "have to be better". With other words, the report produces pressure to move forward. No big jumps but small steps. 4. Key new (or enhanced) elements are a. call for more tangible outputs, including "messages that map out converging and diverging opinions on given questions"; b. call for an improved preparatory process (content, logistics, timetable), for an improved MAG (a key element here is the proposed selection procedure for the MAG, which gives the main authority into the hands of the stakeholder groups themselves and their own election/selection mechanisms, keeping the role of the UN Secretary General as the final decision maker) and an improved secretairat (calling for filling as early as possible the vacany of the Special Adviser and the Ex Secretary). c. call for a better funding (the problem here was that the fear to become dependent from donors - private or governments or UN regular budget - blocked a little bit broader consensus, however the recommendations allow the development of a creative mixed funding mechanism which will be one of the tasks of the new Ex Secretary. An important element here is transparency and accountability, which was strengthened and will (hopefully) help to encourage donnors) d. call for broader participation and capacity building (This section was mainly driven by the proposals from civil society and is aimed to bring more developing, LDC and other underprivilged groups closer to the IGF process. The recommendations are very specific - from low bandwith connections to enhanced remote participation capabilities to innovative funding schemes to enable F2F participation to capacity building measures (IGF Academy?) and data/research collection (IGF Obervatory?) e. call for a better linked IGF both within the world politics ecosystem (from G8 to UN to other groups) as well as the Internet Governance Ecosystem (ICANN, IETF, RIRs) plus the own emerging IGF Ecosystem with local and regional IGFs around the globe. What is needed here is also a more proferssional communication and marketing strategy and this depends also from the people who will lead the process. Insofar the pressure to fill the vacancies of the two open positions is growing. Summarizing the outcome one can say that after a complicated start the group was able to deliver something. The outcome of then work of the group are realistic recommendations, no dreams. Now it is up to the UNCSTD, later to the ECOSOC and the UN General Assembly, to translate this into clear guideliens for the IGF in 2013, 2014 and 2015. As said above, one reason why a constructive outcome was possible is that the controversy over "enhanced cooperation" was de-coupled from IGF Improvement. There will be a one day workshop on enhanced cooperation within the UNCSTD meeting in May 2012 in Geneva. I would be surprised if this workshop would end in harmony.One option could be that at the end of this day, when the smog fills the room, somebody could propose to establish a "UNCSTD Working Group on the Improvment of Enhanced Cooperation (WGIEC). If this would be the case the last two years with the existing WG could be a good source of inspiration. A final word to civil society involvement and the role of the IGC. IGC was diretly represented by its present chair (and two former chairs). The fact that CS had the three IBSA countries in the team, was very useful. When Marillia, Anriette or Parminder took the floor, people were listening. Well done. CS demonstrated that they can work in a team with other stakeholders, sticking to their principles, fighting for their very concrete objectives by having also the flexibility to respect the role of other stakeholders and entering into a rough consensus, where needed. Sometimes it was like in the good old WSIS times ten years ago!! Bets wishes wolfgang b. call for a more visible commujnication (and marketing) strategy to place ther IGF ________________________________ Fra: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org på vegne af Riaz K Tayob Sendt: fr 02-03-2012 23:40 Til: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro; governance at lists.igcaucus.org Emne: Re: [governance] WikiLeaks: Stratfor leak shows US's covert plan to prosecute Assange Yes it would be very good if a General Comment could be worked on in relevant HR committees, this is essential to getting some of the challenges related to the medium (these would have to be a sufficient level of generality). Perhaps it should anticipate changes as user needs change. I suppose it will also involve some responsibilities on the part of users too. But general contracting principles, like fair contracting terms, may be a useful guide. The trouble is imperial actions and/or pretensions do bread paranoid politics in developing countries. And we need to be cognisant of the fact that some of the vested interests strengthened by their influence on government positions in the rich countries for developing countries tend to "blowback" to the developed world. Riaz On 2012/03/02 10:48 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: Dear Riaz, Thank you for this and these are some thoughts. This is really interesting. If we look at the case of:- China [alleged imtimidation of Ai Wei Wei for threats against Odre Public/Public Order]; US [alleged intention to prosecute Assange for threats to "national security"]; Pakistan [RFPs for filtering for threats against Public Order]; India [New Delhi - where Court said that ISPs have to block content for threats against Public Order/Moral]; Europe [where ECJ held that the danger of blocking lawful content was a far greater risk in terms of filtering attempts] then we have a deeper appreciation of the need to see what are legitimate exceptions. Sala On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: WikiLeaks: Stratfor leak shows US's covert plan to prosecute Assange Wednesday, February 29, 2012 Julian Assange. WikiLeaks released the statement below on February 28. * * * Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm Stratfor show that the United States government has had a secret indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for more than 12 months. Fred Burton, Stratfor's Vice-President for Counterterrorism and Corporate Security, is a former Deputy Chief of the Department of State's (DoS) counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). In early 2011, Burton revealed in internal Stratfor correspondence that a secret Grand Jury had already issued a sealed indictment for Assange: "Not for Pub - We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect." (375123) According to Burton: "Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He'll be eating cat food forever." (1056988) A few weeks earlier, following Julian Assange's release from a London jail, where he had been remanded as a result of a Swedish prosecutor's arrest warrant, Fred Burton told SkyNews: "extradition [to the US is] more and more likely". (373862). Emails from Fred Burton reveal that the US government employs the same counterterrorism strategy against Julian Assange and WikiLeaks as against Al Qaeda: "Take down the money. Go after his infrastructure. The tools we are using to nail and de-construct Wiki are the same tools used to dismantle and track aQ [Al Qaeda]. Thank Cheney & 43 [former US President George W. Bush]. Big Brother owns his liberal terrorist arse." (1067796) Ten days after the CIA reportedly assassinated Osama bin Laden, Burton writes in an email sent to Stratfor's "Secure" mailing list that he "can get access to the materials seized from the OBL [Osama bin Laden] safe house." (1660854) Burton states: "Ferreting out [Julian Assange's] confederates is also key. Find out what other disgruntled rogues inside the tent or outside [sic]. Pile on. Move him from country to country to face various charges for the next 25 years. But, seize everything he and his family own, to include every person linked to Wiki." (1056763) Along with the FBI, the Diplomatic Security Service and the Department of Defense (DoD) form a multi-agency US Government outfit seeking to criminally indict and prosecute WikiLeaks and Julian Assange. According to the Department of State, the DSS handles the investigation of all leads that involve the DoS and assists the DoD in forensic analysis of hard drives seized by the US government in its ongoing criminal investigation. Burton also says he "would pursue [c]onspiracy and [p]olitical [t]errorism charges and declassify the death of a source someone which [he] could link to Wiki" (1074383). Burton's strategy is to: "[b]ankrupt the arsehole first," Burton states, "ruin his life. Give him 7-12 yrs for conspiracy." (1057220) WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said: "For over a year now, the US Attorny General Eric Holder has been conducting a "secret" Grand Jury investigation into WikiLeaks. This neo-McCarthyist witch hunt against WikiLeaks may be Mr Holder's defining legacy. Any student of American history knows that secret justice is no justice at all. Justice must be seen to be done. Legitimate authority arises out of the informed consent of the governed, not Eric Holder's press secretary. "Secret Grand Juries with secret indictments are apparently Eric Holder's preferred method of dealing with publishers who hold his administration to account. Eric Holder has betrayed the legacy of Madison and Jefferson. He should drop the case or resign. Should he continue, however, the Obama administration may not - Democrats and Republicans alike believe in the right to tell the truth." As early as June 2010, after the release of the Collateral Murder video but prior to the Afghan War Diaries release, the emails talk of a sealed indictment. In an email conversation between Shane Harris, a National Security journalist, and Burton, Harris is surprised that Assange was reporteded to be attending a Las Vegas Investigative Reporters and Editors (IRE) conference. Burton remarks: "As a foreign national, we could revoke [Julian Assange's] travel status and deport. Could also be taken into custody as a material witness. We COULD have a sealed indictment and lock him up. Depends upon how far along the military case is" (391504). Julian Assange cancelled his appearance at the IRE conference due to security concerns. In another email to Stephen Feldhaus, Stratfor legal counsel, about Ronald Kessler, a "pro-FBI journalist", Burton remarks: "I look forward to Manning and Assange facing a bajillion-thousand counts [of espionage]." (1035283) In July 2010 alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning was moved from Camp Arifjan, Kuwait to the Quantico Brig in the Military District of Washington at the request of Maj. Gen. Terry Wolff, then Commanding General of the 1st Armored Division/US Division - Center in Iraq. Wolff requested Manning's move, the Pentagon reported, "due to a potentially lengthy pre-trial confinement because of the complexity of the charges and an ongoing investigation." Three days before Manning arrived at Quantico Brig, Burton wrote to George Friedman, Stratfor CEO and founder: "We probably asked the ASIS [Australian Secret Intelligence Service] to monitor Wiki coms and email, after the soldier from Potomac was nabbed. So, it's reasonable to assume we probably already know who has done it. The delay could be figuring out how to declassify and use the Aussie intel on Wiki... The owner [Julian Assange] is a peacenik. He needs his head dunked in a full toilet bowl at Gitmo." (402168) The GI Files: http://wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html Please donate: http://shop.wikileaks.org/donate ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From pbekono at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 10:39:33 2012 From: pbekono at gmail.com (Pascal Bekono) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 16:39:33 +0100 Subject: [governance] Feb IGF12 Consultations / Draft Notes In-Reply-To: References: <5F23F90A-905C-435D-A562-34D662900EA4@privaterra.org> Message-ID: Thank you Robert, well summarised, good job ! 2012/3/3, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro : > Thank you Robert for this comprehensive report. > > Kind Regards, > Sala > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Robert Guerra > wrote: > >> Wanted to share with the list my very summarized notes from the Open IGF >> consultation & Open MAG meeting that took place this past Feb in Geneva >> >> >> >> Azerbaijan – Information regarding 2012 IGF >> >> - Will take place in November (Week of Nov 5th): Nov 5 (Monday) >> Ministerial meeting, Nov 6 (Tuesday) IGF Start >> - Several venues are being considered: The Baku Expo Centre or >> Hilton+ Park Inn >> - Key hotels: Park Inn, Hilton Hotel & Marriott (Park Inn & Hilton >> are next to each other) >> - Shuttle buses will be arranged. Special vehicles will be provided >> for those with limited mobility >> >> Venue: >> Proposal that Opening & Closing session take place at the Heydar >> Aliyev Palace. >> Organizing committee is proposing that the IGF not take place at >> one single venue, but instead be “split” among 3 key hotels >> >> NOTE: the comment that the venue would be “split” caused an >> immediate reaction from some of the key private sector and civil society >> representatives at the Open Consultation. >> >> * Concern that multiple venues will make logistics very complex and >> increase time required to move around different “IGF spaces” >> * IGF Secretariat mentioned that the UN Security team has – NOT YET >> – visited the (proposed) venue >> * Bakutel (18th Annual Azerbaijan International Telecommunications >> conference, 7-10Nov) is also taking place in Baku. ( >> http://www.bakutel.com) >> * Concern by many that this would fragment and/or dilute IGF >> audience >> * Concern that with 2 events taking place at the same time >> accommodation will be at a premium and difficult to obtain >> * Concern that Bakutel and IGF might be hosted at the same venue. >> >> Visas : Arrangements with Azeri foreign ministry are being negotiated. >> An expedited process is likely to be arranged so as to make >> “process as easy as possible”. >> Normally can take up to 5-7 days for a visa to obtained. This will >> be expedited for IGF participants. >> Comment made that “will try and see if Visas can be obtained upon >> arrival” by IGF participants. >> Information about visas will be announced no later then 3 months >> before event (Aug 2012) >> >> Flights: >> Airport : Heydar Aliyev International Airport (IATA: GYD) >> Served by several airlines: >> * Aeroflot (Moscow), BMI Codeshare (London) , Austrian Airlines >> (Vienna), Turkish Airlines (Istanbul), (Dubai), Qatar Airlines (Doha), >> (Milan) and Lufthansa (Frankfurt) >> * Air Baltic also offers flights with good prices from/via Riga. >> * Comprehensive list of Airlines servicing Baku can be found here - >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heydar_Aliyev_International_Airport >> >> Accommodation: >> A variety of options will be available – from “Guest Houses” to 5 >> star hotels >> Request is made for people “not yet to book hotels”, as “preferred >> rates will be negotiated” >> Host country website where one will be able to obtain additional >> details and IGF negotiated rate will be available in 2-3 weeks (by 1st >> week >> in March) >> >> Refs: >> http://wikitravel.org/en/Baku >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku >> Map of Baku - http://goo.gl/8iEgy >> . Google Map for Baku - http://g.co/maps/r25zm >> >> >> >> Summary of key Interventions and/or announcements >> >> 1. A variety of organizations and/or countries announced they were >> contributing funding to the IGF secretariat: >> (Number Resource Organisation (NRO) >> ISOC (will increase funding from 10K to 50K USD >> UK. Will make 15,000 £ donation (Approx 24, 900 USD) >> >> 2. Azerbaijan – Details of 2012 IGF >> Will take place in November (Week of Nov 5th) >> Will start with (closed) ministerial meeting on the 5th, and IGF >> will start on the 6th >> Concurs with the Chinese delegation’s view that Human rights should >> not appear in the nor in the title of the next IGF nor as a key cross >> cutting theme. >> >> 3. Brazil – Creation of a UNESCO Regional Centre on the Information >> Society >> For training of Govts & Civil Society on Internet Governance >> Hopes regional centre will contribute to enhanced knowledge and >> participation of developing countries at IGF >> >> 4. Argentina – South-South School on Internet Governance >> Will take place 19-23 March in Bogota >> http://www.south-ssig.com.ar/ >> >> 5. Kuwait Information Technology Society : 1st Annual Arab IGF >> Will take place in Early Oct, in Kuwait >> Contact : Qusai Al-Shatti, qshatti at gmail.com >> >> >> 6. IGF Secretariat – IGF update >> Call for MAG candidates was extended until Feb 24th (mostly due to >> requests by Govts, who have not yet named their reps) >> Special Advisor to the Secretary General has not yet been named. >> This is a prerogative of the Secretary General >> >> Executive Coordinator Position has not yet been filled >> >> The UN recruitment office reviewed over 100 applications. Short >> list has been developed. IGF trust fund does is not yet large enough to >> support the position and run the secretariat. Filling the position on hold >> until “adequate funds” are available to appoint someone to the position >> >> Call for workshop proposals will be issued in March >> Renewed MAG will meet in May (during WSIS week) – week of May 13th. >> Open IGF consultation – 15 May, Open MAG meeting – 16, 17 May >> >> >> >> 8. Proposed Topics (Proposed at the open consultation, not the open >> MAG meeting) >> >> Economic development (China) >> Accessibility & Disability (Hungary) >> There should be a focus on “current developments” (Egypt) >> A ministerial meeting should take place the day before (Egypt) >> Cloud Computing (Indonesia) >> Cyber Security (Indonesia) >> Access (Indonesia) >> Multi-Linguisim (Indonesia) >> Internet Filtering (Argentina, CitizenLab, LACNIC, ISOC) >> Privacy (CitizenLab, LACNIC) >> Human Rights (Sweden, Finland, Argentina, APC, CitizenLab) >> Developing Country Perspectives (ICC) >> Economic Growth & Job Creation (Walt Disney/ICC, EU) >> Security, Openness & Privacy (UK, EU, Walt Disney/ICC) >> New Models of sharing content (Argentina) >> Internet Governance for Sustainable development (Pakistan & China) >> Internet Intermediaries >> Critical Internet Resources >> ICTs for disaster management/preparedness >> ICT for development (Azerbaijan) >> Creating an enabling environment (UK) >> Cloud Computing, particularly in Developing countries (GIIC) >> Social Networks & Role of Youth (Azerbaijan) >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sat Mar 3 10:54:00 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 10:54:00 -0500 Subject: [governance] Feb IGF12 Consultations / Draft Notes In-Reply-To: References: <5F23F90A-905C-435D-A562-34D662900EA4@privaterra.org> Message-ID: On 2012-03-03, at 1:30 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > Thank you Robert for this comprehensive report. > > Kind Regards, > Sala Sala, Happy you and others on the list find my draft notes useful. It is likely I might have overlooked one or more items, so please do feel free to send me any comments and/or questions you might have about the draft. I'll post the final report once it is ready to the list as well. regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Whether it's ludicrous or not, it's relevant to what's happening, and reveals the (messed up) ways Stratfor thinks about internet governance and then presumably advises its high profile client list accordingly. These clients are paying Stratfor good money for advice about internet governance and other issues. Just think, Stratfor could have made more money and assembled better advice about internet governance by cutting and pasting from this listserv. :) Paul Lehto, J.D. On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, McTim wrote: > On 3/2/12, Petko Kolev wrote: > > Might be interesting - > > > http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/ > > Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for > many years, not a likely activity for a “Bulgarian billionaire > telecommunications oligarch”. > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there." 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sat Mar 3 12:15:38 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0500 Subject: [governance] Economist on abuses committed by Azerbaijan along way to hosting Eurovision Song Contest Message-ID: <8F861E88-50A4-4306-82B8-3B1809D5C0EE@privaterra.org> Thought i'd share the following tweet just posted online by the Executive Director of Human Rights Watch, Ken Roth on Azerbaijan. https://twitter.com/#!/KenRoth/statuses/175988951767724032 Economist on abuses committed by #Azerbaijan along way to hosting #Eurovision Song Contest. References @HRW report. http://econ.st/yaxkOS http://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2012/03/eurovision-song-contest The Eurovision Song Contest Can Engelbert Humperdinck free Azerbaijan? Mar 2nd 2012, 16:46 by G.E. | TBILISI ENGELBERT HUMPERDINCK, the 75-year old chosen by the BBC to represent Britain at the Eurovision song contest, is more famous for such hits as “After the Lovin’” than for political campaigning. But some activists hope that when he showcases his crooning in Baku in Azerbaijan on May 26th, the event will be made memorable for another reason. With some 120m people expected to tune in, they want to highlight the country’s deteriorating human-rights record. [snipped] -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From petko.kolev49 at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 12:32:19 2012 From: petko.kolev49 at gmail.com (Petko Kolev) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 19:32:19 +0200 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is an English translation of the original article: http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=137218 People in Bulgaria doesn`t seem to care about how Statfor describes Veni (imo, its ludicrous, yes), but care about what he might have done during his affiliation with the "private CIA", because in the same time he was an adviser to the Bulgarian president and to the minister of IT. For example, he contacted Statfor from a governmental mailbox. (http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/558496_email-of-fred-burton-.html) Cheers, Petko On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Paul Lehto wrote: > > Unless the authenticity of the Stratfor documents is attacked (and I'm not > aware that it is being attacked) then no matter how "ludicrous" it is, or > appears to be, it nevertheless reveals the processes of the Stratfor > organization that seems to style itself as a private CIA, specifically as > these processes touch upon internet governance, even including discussion of > Veni (a member of this list for many years). > > Whether it's ludicrous or not, it's relevant to what's happening, and > reveals the (messed up) ways Stratfor thinks about internet governance and > then presumably advises its high profile client list accordingly.   These > clients are paying Stratfor good money for advice about internet governance > and other issues. > > Just think, Stratfor could have made more money and assembled better advice > about internet governance by cutting and pasting from this listserv.  :) > > Paul Lehto, J.D. > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, McTim wrote: >> >> On 3/2/12, Petko Kolev wrote: >> > Might be interesting - >> > >> > http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/ >> >> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for >> many years, not a likely activity for a “Bulgarian billionaire >> telecommunications oligarch”. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > -- > Paul R Lehto, J.D. > P.O. Box 1 > Ishpeming, MI  49849 > lehto.paul at gmail.com > 906-204-4026 (cell) > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 13:12:42 2012 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 14:12:42 -0400 Subject: [governance] Remote Participation In-Reply-To: References: <3FAA017C9B294353BC3AF4FB8E3274EC@UserVAIO> Message-ID: I disagree. It seems to me 'participation' is available already; what we are fighting for now is the *real* institutionalisation of remote participation. Adam pointed out that remote participation is already present in the documentation - now we need to ensure that it is also present, as a matter of course, at all of the meetings. I accept your arguments, but they seem to me to support keeping the qualifier 'remote' until such times as the goal you describe below - > to have electronic participation be as seamless as possible relative to in > person participation has been achieved. Deirdre On 1 March 2012 19:02, Paul Lehto wrote: > I do understand why the request here is for "Remote Participation" but I > would suggest re-framing this request because what people really want is > Participation, not "Remote Participation" per se. > > The goal with things-internet should be to have electronic participation > be as seamless as possible relative to in person participation. I would > suggest a global find/replace to find "Remote Participation" and replace it > with "Participation". If not now, then in the future. A call for > "Participation without visas" does not seem out of line in the age of the > internet, but what is sought is Participation, plain and simple. > > Sent via remote email, > Paul Lehto, J.D. > > P.S. It seems the feeling many have had with technical problems in > participation left them feeling quite "remote" to the process of > participation. :) > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < > salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Statement is available via >> http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/47 >> >> Michael your concerns are factored in the Statement, see Paragraph [4]. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Sala >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:18 AM, michael gurstein wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> (Coming in late, this was caught up in my gmail issues... >>> >>> I'ld like to strongly agree with Ginger in this. For me Remote >>> Participation is not a technical issue but rather has to do with policy. A >>> commitment to "RP" has a lot of implications of which the technical and >>> organizational are only part (and even then may be the least significant). >>> RP implies that the processes of discussion are structured and designed -- >>> including their planning, set-up, execution and follow-on -- in such a way >>> that those who are participating remotely are equally enabled and empowered >>> as those who are participating f2f. >>> >>> Achieving this is a huge undertaking to my mind but one worth pursuing >>> both at the operational and at the policy level. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto: >>> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Ginger Paque >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:47 AM >>> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Adam Peake >>> *Subject:* Re: [governance] Remote Participation >>> >>> Adam said: >>> >>> I think it's petty to complain about technical problems with the >>> transcripts etc from the MAG meeting, bad connections happen all the >>> time (and if MAG members can't work out how to tell a group of people >>> they are having problems with a connection it perhaps says more about >>> them than it does about the secretariat/moderators.) >>> >>> I think that this full discussion and support for RP is very important >>> and exciting. >>> >>> I think that using the occasion of the recent meetings as an example and >>> illustration is a mistake. I agree with Adam that the tech glitches during >>> last week's meetings should not even be addressed--these are obvious. >>> Placing emphasis on tech details draws attention from the more valid, and >>> more important principles. I know I am repeating myself, but I think they >>> boil down to just one: >>> >>> RP must be institutionalized in meeting processes. >>> >>> The only serious problem I see with last week's meetings was the lack of >>> a remote moderator and clear processes. If RP -- and I mean remote >>> participation and remote engagement, not remote observation -- were an >>> automatic, standard part of meeting strategies and processes, the inclusion >>> of an onsite remote moderator would have been a given, as much as the >>> presence of the traditional chair and moderator. I dare to say that if one >>> of the members of the RPWG had been at the meetings, they might have >>> 'requested' to be 'allowed' to act as remote moderator. Remote moderation >>> and remote participation should not depend on collaboration of volunteers >>> and serendipity. Implementation of RP may always need the collaboration of >>> volunteers, and the RPWG exists as a volunteer organization, seeking the >>> privilege of collaborating, but the planning process should originate in >>> the IGF structure itself, not in the action of volunteers. >>> >>> If RP were institutionalized in the IGF process, the Secretariat might >>> ask the RPWG for collaboration, and issue a call for volunteers. >>> >>> If RP were institutionalized in the IGF process, the Secretariat might >>> include a RPWG (or other mechanism) liaison for strategy, planning and >>> process and instead of an endless series of ad hoc situations. >>> >>> If RP were institutionalized, Remote Hubs -- an innovation of the RPWG >>> catalysed by Marilia's energy and organization -- would become part of the >>> IGF process, not the RPWG process, would include remote hubs whenever >>> appropriate and would include support for regional IGFs. >>> >>> I would prefer to see a strong, clear, short statement asking that RP be >>> institutionalised (maybe that is not the appropriate word) as an integral >>> part of the IGF meeting process. >>> >>> Establishing principles and guidelines is separate process which has >>> been started, and should be coordinated to take advantage of, and include >>> the different input. It should not be done in a hurry, in response to one >>> frustrating meeting. Nor should one frustrating meeting opaque the progress >>> the IGF has made toward inclusive RP. We should use this meeting to >>> energize forward progress in an orderly manner. Can we form a better >>> strategy and focus for productive results? I think so. I have not made >>> comments on the existing statement, because I would re-write it completely, >>> with a different approach, with points I have made above. >>> >>> Is it proper/possible for me to propose an alternate text? I do not have >>> the sense that there is consensus for the posts I have made previously, so >>> I have not done so. >>> >>> Anyway, again, my 2 cents. Cheers for the energy around remote >>> participation! >>> >>> Ginger >>> >>> >>> >>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >>> >>> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu >>> Diplo Foundation >>> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme >>> www.diplomacy.edu/ig >>> *The latest from Diplo....*From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the >>> most exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May >>> 2012: *Bilateral Diplomacy*, *Diplomacy of Small States*, and * >>> E-diplomacy*. Apply now to reserve your place: >>> http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses** >>> >>> >>> >>> On 23 February 2012 05:13, Adam Peake wrote: >>> >>>> Comment below: >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>> wrote: >>>> > Dear All, >>>> > >>>> > Firstly thank you Deirdre for copying it onto word and making it much >>>> easier >>>> > to incorporate the new feedback that we received from Schombe, Jovan, >>>> > Anriette, Jeremy, Roland, Mariela etc. >>>> > >>>> > Whilst I am copying the text onto this email, I will also place it on >>>> the >>>> > Statement Workspace as well: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > STATEMENT BY THE CIVIL SOCIETY INTERNET GOVERNANCE CAUCUS ON REMOTE >>>> > PARTICIPATION >>>> > >>>> > We would like to acknowledge the excellent work that the Internet >>>> Governance >>>> > Forum Remote Participation Working Group have been doing over the >>>> last five >>>> > years. We appreciate the numerous hours of sacrifice and work behind >>>> the >>>> > scenes to build remote participation to what it is today. We have >>>> seen how >>>> > whilst Technology is important, that it goes hand in hand with >>>> extraordinary >>>> > levels of sacrifice and commitment. It is this commitment that >>>> enables the >>>> > spirit of the IGF which is in sharing, dialogue, collaboration and >>>> > ultimately access. >>>> > >>>> > We are fortunate that the Internet Governance Forum Secretariat and >>>> UN DESA >>>> > are open .and committed to continued improvements to Remote >>>> Participation. >>>> > Each year the IGF RPWG commences its operations with training of >>>> remote >>>> > moderators many weeks ahead of the meeting, where they discuss with >>>> remote >>>> > hubs and encourage participation and liaise with the Secretariat to >>>> make >>>> > remote participation a reality. >>>> > >>>> > We would like to reiterate and underscore that remote participation >>>> is a >>>> > crucial part of organizing the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) and we >>>> > appreciate the effort to provide remote participation for the Open >>>> > Consultation, the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) meetings, >>>> and the >>>> > MAG meeting this month – February 2012 – which was opened to >>>> observers. >>>> > >>>> > The IGC believes that Remote Participation (RP) should be an integral >>>> part >>>> > of Internet Governance and IGF Policy Processes. It is impossible to >>>> sustain >>>> > an inclusive global policy process without effective remote >>>> participation. >>>> > We would like to explore how we can assist in working together to >>>> address >>>> > the issues raised in 2008 by various stakeholders that have yet to be >>>> > addressed[1]. >>>> > >>>> > The MAG and IGF Secretariats should start working with the host to >>>> ensure >>>> > that real time transcriptions are available for all sessions and not >>>> just >>>> > the Main Sessions. >>>> > >>>> >>>> from the Nairobi chair's summary document: >>>> >>>> "The entire meeting was Webcast, with video streaming provided from >>>> the main session room and audio streaming provided from all workshop >>>> meeting rooms. All the main sessions and workshops had real time >>>> transcription. The text transcripts and video of all meetings were >>>> made available through the IGF Website." >>>> >>>> I think it's petty to complain about technical problems with the >>>> transcripts etc from the MAG meeting, bad connections happen all the >>>> time (and if MAG members can't work out how to tell a group of people >>>> they are having problems with a connection it perhaps says more about >>>> them than it does about the secretariat/moderators.) >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> > We would like to commend the excellent work of the technical team from >>>> > Politecnico di Torino, (The Polytechnic University of Turin) which was >>>> > originally brought by our colleague and former IGC Civil Society >>>> Coordinator >>>> > Vittorio Bertola. >>>> > >>>> > However, we would like to point out some difficulties that occurred >>>> with the >>>> > system during the open MAG meeting. On the third day, morning >>>> session, (the >>>> > second day of the open MAG meeting), remote observers were effectively >>>> > excluded because they had no access to live transcript. >>>> > >>>> > Also MAG members trying to participate online had difficulty in >>>> contacting >>>> > moderators, partly because the moderators were serving more than one >>>> > function. >>>> > >>>> > We strongly urge MAG and IGF Secretariats and ourselves to consider >>>> the >>>> > following for the future IGF organizing work and the IGF itself, and >>>> work >>>> > together to bring them about: >>>> > >>>> > · Ensuring equal participation between online and offline >>>> participants >>>> > through planning meetings to give online and offline participants an >>>> equal >>>> > opportunity to participate and contribute to meetings. >>>> > >>>> > · Ensuring that there is sufficient capacity and appropriate >>>> bandwidth to >>>> > sustain remote participation by liaising with hosts well in advance to >>>> > enable greater interactions from offline participants. >>>> > >>>> > · Preparing a clear comprehensive guideline for remote >>>> participation and >>>> > its moderation and post session or meeting reporting for meeting >>>> hosts, >>>> > facilitators and chairs. >>>> > >>>> > · Clearly advertising opportunities for RP in advance of all >>>> meetings, >>>> > with clear guidance for participants on the opportunities to engage >>>> through >>>> > RP that will be available. >>>> > >>>> > ·Always assigning exclusive remote participation >>>> coordinator/moderators (who >>>> > do not have other jobs at the same time, and are responsible for >>>> > interactions between the meeting’s physical participants/current >>>> speaker, >>>> > the Chair and the remote participants). >>>> > >>>> > · Establishing a clear procedure that would encourage remote >>>> participants >>>> > to intervene. Such a system is desirable both for those physically >>>> present >>>> > in Geneva and those observing the meeting remotely. >>>> > >>>> > · Providing as much interactivity as possible by giving remote >>>> > participants to interact and engage in meetings. >>>> > >>>> > · Providing multiple methods – video, voice and text channel, as >>>> well as >>>> > real-time transcription and video streaming – of coverage of the >>>> meeting >>>> > >>>> > · Enabling the meeting and remote participation through interactive >>>> > presentations access through RP. >>>> > >>>> > · Creating a select Task force or Working Group created that has >>>> > representatives from the Government, Private Sector and Civil Society >>>> that >>>> > is dedicated to seeing improvements of Remote Participation and to >>>> ensure >>>> > the incorporation of critical elements that have been highlighted to >>>> ensure >>>> > improved remote participation processes. >>>> > >>>> > Because only limited funds are available for face- to >>>> -face participation, >>>> > this issue is crucially important to all stakeholders from all >>>> > constituencies who are entitled to participate in the meetings, and >>>> who wish >>>> > to do so from a remote location. Meeting Chairs also play a central >>>> role in >>>> > creating a dynamic and inclusive environment that welcomes remote >>>> > participation. >>>> > >>>> > We also encourage greater partnership between the governments and >>>> private >>>> > sector in enhancing remote participation. >>>> > >>>> > We have to move beyond advocacy to listing and creating tangible >>>> outcomes to >>>> > make improved, stable and sustainable remote participation a reality. >>>> > >>>> > There are regions around the world where transportation is extremely >>>> > expensive and one such region is the Pacific which has 22 countries >>>> and >>>> > territories. Remote participation was the only way that any of these >>>> > countries could access the IGF. >>>> > >>>> > However there is room to improve processes and create an IGF culture >>>> where >>>> > remote participation is prioritised through exploring tested >>>> methodology. >>>> > >>>> > The appropriate technical solutions need also to be explored as well >>>> > bandwidth and ensuring that there is uninterrupted power supply and >>>> > redundancy options where backup generators are critical to maintain a >>>> > consistent and seamless flow. The MAG and IGF Secretariats should also >>>> > ensure that there is sufficient and dedicated bandwidth capacity to >>>> sustain >>>> > the volume of traffic from remote participation. >>>> > >>>> > Aside from having the appropriate technical solutions and should also >>>> > include the following:- >>>> > >>>> > · Outreach. >>>> > >>>> > · Mapping local and regional stakeholders; >>>> > >>>> > · Coordinating with people on the ground significantly before >>>> the >>>> > IGF in a series of strategic roll out. >>>> > >>>> > · Creation of Guidelines for Meeting Chairs and Moderators >>>> whilst >>>> > noting the limitations. >>>> > >>>> > · Identifying how the private sector, civil society and >>>> governments >>>> > can be better involved in the remote hubs etc. >>>> > >>>> > · Encourage greater collaboration between the IGF RPWG and >>>> national, >>>> > sub regional and regional IGFs. >>>> > >>>> > We also express our support of the IGF RPWG which published >>>> guidelines and >>>> > recommendations for remote participation and IGF 2011 WS-67 >>>> participants >>>> > prepared a draft of e-participation principles. >>>> > >>>> > Ends >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ________________________________ >>>> > >>>> > [1] http://wiki.igf-online.net/wiki/IGF_Virtual_Community >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Deirdre Williams >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Dear Sala, >>>> >> I have been unavoidably out of contact all day, and am just catching >>>> up >>>> >> with reading the messages. >>>> >> I am not clear which document you want me to send. >>>> >> I have attached a word copy of my response yesterday, although from >>>> >> reading the discussion that has perhaps been superseded during the >>>> >> discussions today? >>>> >> Please let me know as I would be delighted to help. >>>> >> De >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 22 February 2012 14:15, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Dear Deirdre, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> As you know our initial statement was used by the civil society >>>> component >>>> >>> of the CSTDWG as advised by Marilia. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> If you could please send it in a word document that would be super >>>> >>> helpful and easy to put up on the Statement Workspace. We will also >>>> be >>>> >>> sending our Statement to the IGF Secretariat. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>>> >>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>> >>> Cell: +679 998 2851 <%2B679%20998%202851> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>>> William >>>> >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>>> > >>>> > Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>>> > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>> > Cell: +679 998 2851 <%2B679%20998%202851> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> > >>>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> > >>>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> !DSPAM:2676,4f461b5125626162813518! >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >> Cell: +679 998 2851 >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Paul R Lehto, J.D. > P.O. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 13:17:30 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 06:17:30 +1200 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: But is that enough to insinuate that the leak came from him? Could someone have hacked into his mailbox or sent the email from his government mailing address with the intention of destroying his reputation? Would a reasonable person intending to send information do so from a public address which is subject to internal scrutiny and mechanisms? Assuming that there was a deliberate move to destroy Veni, what I am interested in is what is the reason behind targeting Veni and what is the "unseen play" that "someone" does'nt want us to "see". Hmmmm On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Petko Kolev wrote: > Here is an English translation of the original article: > http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=137218 > > People in Bulgaria doesn`t seem to care about how Statfor describes > Veni (imo, its ludicrous, yes), but care about what he might have done > during his affiliation with the "private CIA", because in the same > time he was an adviser to the Bulgarian president and to the minister > of IT. For example, he contacted Statfor from a governmental mailbox. > (http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/558496_email-of-fred-burton-.html) > > Cheers, > Petko > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Paul Lehto wrote: > > > > Unless the authenticity of the Stratfor documents is attacked (and I'm > not > > aware that it is being attacked) then no matter how "ludicrous" it is, or > > appears to be, it nevertheless reveals the processes of the Stratfor > > organization that seems to style itself as a private CIA, specifically as > > these processes touch upon internet governance, even including > discussion of > > Veni (a member of this list for many years). > > > > Whether it's ludicrous or not, it's relevant to what's happening, and > > reveals the (messed up) ways Stratfor thinks about internet governance > and > > then presumably advises its high profile client list accordingly. These > > clients are paying Stratfor good money for advice about internet > governance > > and other issues. > > > > Just think, Stratfor could have made more money and assembled better > advice > > about internet governance by cutting and pasting from this listserv. :) > > > > Paul Lehto, J.D. > > > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, McTim wrote: > >> > >> On 3/2/12, Petko Kolev wrote: > >> > Might be interesting - > >> > > >> > > http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/ > >> > >> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for > >> many years, not a likely activity for a “Bulgarian billionaire > >> telecommunications oligarch”. > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers, > >> > >> McTim > >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul R Lehto, J.D. > > P.O. Box 1 > > Ishpeming, MI 49849 > > lehto.paul at gmail.com > > 906-204-4026 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Sat Mar 3 15:03:33 2012 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 07:03:33 +1100 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >From my knowledge of Veni, this sort of contact was way within his range of possibilities if he saw personal advancement from it. Whats unclear from the releases so far as summarised at http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=137218 is whether anything involved goes beyond simple naivety. I personally don't think it will but this story might have a few twists and turns yet. Ian Peter > From: McTim > Reply-To: , McTim > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 06:18:44 +0000 > To: , Petko Kolev > Subject: Re: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor > > On 3/2/12, Petko Kolev wrote: >> Might be interesting - >> http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/ > > Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for > many years, not a likely activity for a ³Bulgarian billionaire > telecommunications oligarch². > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Sat Mar 3 16:46:41 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 23:46:41 +0200 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32713B4E-1A15-4044-8B48-B94F60FBAD71@digsys.bg> I will try to avoid commenting much on this, but knowing Veni since he was teenager… all this is possible, and then some. The reasons are rather complex and some of them can hardly be explained to parties who do not have some background of Bulgarian history and Veni's origins. But.. something like this had to leak some day. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Sat Mar 3 17:20:30 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 00:20:30 +0200 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72E24025-3339-4EF7-B0A2-D0D7599A0323@digsys.bg> On Mar 3, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > But is that enough to insinuate that the leak came from him? Could someone have hacked into his mailbox or sent the email from his government mailing address with the intention of destroying his reputation? This can in theory be confirmed by that government agency. They do keep records for any and all e-mail correspondence. (we had to verify that few times already) But.. the agency itself was somehow shady and it was later dismantled for various (political and other) reasons. So it's archives might have been destroyed as well -- or will be destroyed shortly :) Like I already mentioned, I don't have any doubt this correspondence is authentic. I also have no doubts, that the agency will not confirm anything. > Would a reasonable person intending to send information do so from a public address which is subject to internal scrutiny and mechanisms? The people working at that agency had rather close relationship with the then ruling party in the Bulgarian Government. That party is the ancestor of the Bulgarian Communist Party and for many, represent the "old regime" (ok, it's more complex than that, but the word "oligarch" sort of describes the situation). So one could pretty much imagine, that anyone at DAITS felt untouchable. They would imagine that they control .. everything. Then, sending the e-mail from an Government endorsed e-mail address makes it more "important" (in the eyes of those people). > Assuming that there was a deliberate move to destroy Veni, what I am interested in is what is the reason behind targeting Veni and what is the "unseen play" that "someone" does'nt want us to "see". Ironically, if you ask Veni who that might be, my name would be first in the list. :-) Ironically again, I don't have that much spare time to waste to hack his e-mail accounts and impersonate him. I also doubt very much anyone would be interested in dong this -- Veni has done enough himself trough the years -- much more than anyone else could achieve. Internet is one of those wonderful things, where anonymity is non-existent and anything you do is recorded forever. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 03:34:20 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 10:34:20 +0200 Subject: [governance] ACTA in UK: 10 years in jail for 'illegal downloads Message-ID: <4F53290C.70507@gmail.com> ACTA in UK: 10 years in jail for 'illegal downloads' Get short URL email story to a friend print version Published: 03 March, 2012, 14:24 SOCA parked page on former RnBxclusive.com file-share service SOCA parked page on former RnBxclusive.com file-share service *TRENDS:* SOPA *TAGS:* Crime , Scandal , UK , Protest , Human rights , Law , Piracy , Internet , Marina Dzhashi , Laura Smith UK web surfers have caught a grim glimpse of the future with Internet users being threatened with 10 years in jail for "illegal downloading" after a prominent music file-sharing site was shut down shortly after Britain signed the notorious ACTA bill. It is the first time such a move has been made against Internet users in the UK. The British government introduced regulations in 2009 enabling Internet providers to track users who downloaded illegal content from the web and disable their connection if warning letters had no effect. But signing the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) has brought the conflict to a whole new level. In Europe, people are taking to the streets in protest at the contradictory Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, with some countries refusing to sign it. After hackers from the activist group Anonymous attacked practically all US government websites in retaliation, the authorities are now considering adopting their own home-grown anti-counterfeiting laws like PIPA (Protect Intellectual Property Act) / SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act). In February, Britain's organized crime police shut down RnBxclusive.com, a prominent music file-sharing website with about 250,000 subscribers on Facebook alone and up to 70,000 visitors per day. In fact, the British police effectively took on the role of personal enforcer to the recording industry, standing guard to protect corporate profits. However sad it might be for many, this is a part of a legal game between copyright owners and the police on the one hand, and defenders of the free Internet on the other. Normally, the Serious Organized Crime Agency (SOCA) tackles crimes "that affect the UK and its citizens." Now, it seems that downloading content from a file-sharing website has been put on a par with "Class A drugs, people smuggling and human trafficking, major gun crime, fraud and money laundering." The practices of SOCA, while enforcing its crackdown on "illegal downloading," raises even more questions. ­10 years behind bars for 'stealing' £60? SOCA is threatening anyone who has downloaded content from RnBxclusive.com or even visited the website with investigation, prosecution, and even jail sentences. Once the police unit gained control of the RnBxclusive web site, it posted a parked page carrying the following warning. SOCA?s warning SOCA's warning ­/"A 10-year prison sentence you'd expect to be handed down for very serious offenses, sexual assaults and rape, manslaughter,"/ Andrew Pierson from the Howard League for Penal Reform told RT. /"You would not normally expect it to be handed down for downloading music illegally." / The SOCA confirmed it had arrested the owner of the site, but refused to tell RT why it is threatening users with a decade behind bars. Instead, they sent this statement: /"SOCA targets organized criminal enterprises profiting from the exploitation of the UK public and legitimate businesses. Much of the music offered for download by the RnBxclusive.com website was illegally obtained from artists, leading the industry to attribute losses of approximately £15 million per year to the site's activity."/ A simple calculation shows that dividing £15 million even by 250,000 known users of RnBxclusive.com gives not more than £60 worth of "stolen" content per person. Does that mean that the British judicial system believes 10 years in prison correlate with the "theft" of just £60? https://rt.com/news/acta-uk-illegal-downloading-jail-753/ ­Unprecedented intimidation ­The message sent by SOCA has given those concerned with Internet freedom an unpleasant taste of what a more regulated future might hold, if the ACTA treaty to protect online copyright infringement and piracy goes ahead. /"It (SOCA) claimed that your IP address was being monitored, so you could be monitored and tracked. Again, this was a move which seems quite unprecedented in the UK," /Loz Kaye from the Pirate Party told RT. /"I'm really afraid that we're going to see this kind of abuse on an industrial scale if ACTA comes to pass,"/ he said. After a shocked response from Internet campaigners, SOCA has taken down the harsh message, and replaced it with a simpler one, which just says they have taken control of the domain. But it has already caused much worry and distress, with many Twitter users apparently unaware that they were visiting a dodgy site, and certainly never dreaming they might be liable to do time for it. Internet campaigners say the notice was meant to frighten -- and in reality, severe penalties could not be applied to casual downloaders. They also argue there is nothing to link RnBxclusive with criminal gangs. So why is SOCA even involved? 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That’s sadly amusing considering that here in China, music.google.cn basically makes available any and all music, free, to listen to or to download. Last I checked, this site wasn’t accessible from outside of China. Best, Eric From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Riaz K Tayob Sent: Sunday, 04 March 2012 16:34 To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: [governance] ACTA in UK: 10 years in jail for 'illegal downloads ACTA in UK: 10 years in jail for 'illegal downloads' Get short URL email story to a friend print version Published: 03 March, 2012, 14:24 SOCA parkedpage on former RnBxclusive.com file-share service SOCA parked page on former RnBxclusive.com file-share service TRENDS: SOPA TAGS: Crime , Scandal , UK , Protest , Human rights , Law , Piracy , Internet , Marina Dzhashi , Laura Smith UK web surfers have caught a grim glimpse of the future with Internet users being threatened with 10 years in jail for “illegal downloading” after a prominent music file-sharing site was shut down shortly after Britain signed the notorious ACTA bill. It is the first time such a move has been made against Internet users in the UK. The British government introduced regulations in 2009 enabling Internet providers to track users who downloaded illegal content from the web and disable their connection if warning letters had no effect. But signing the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) has brought the conflict to a whole new level. In Europe, people are taking to the streets in protest at the contradictory Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, with some countries refusing to sign it. After hackers from the activist group Anonymous attacked practically all US government websites in retaliation, the authorities are now considering adopting their own home-grown anti-counterfeiting laws like PIPA (Protect Intellectual Property Act) / SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act). In February, Britain's organized crime police shut down RnBxclusive.com, a prominent music file-sharing website with about 250,000 subscribers on Facebook alone and up to 70,000 visitors per day. In fact, the British police effectively took on the role of personal enforcer to the recording industry, standing guard to protect corporate profits. However sad it might be for many, this is a part of a legal game between copyright owners and the police on the one hand, and defenders of the free Internet on the other. Normally, the Serious Organized Crime Agency (SOCA) tackles crimes “that affect the UK and its citizens.” Now, it seems that downloading content from a file-sharing website has been put on a par with “Class A drugs, people smuggling and human trafficking, major gun crime, fraud and money laundering.” The practices of SOCA, while enforcing its crackdown on “illegal downloading,” raises even more questions. ­10 years behind bars for ‘stealing’ £60? SOCA is threatening anyone who has downloaded content from RnBxclusive.com or even visited the website with investigation, prosecution, and even jail sentences. Once the police unit gained control of the RnBxclusive web site, it posted a parked page carrying the following warning. SOCA′swarning SOCA's warning ­“A 10-year prison sentence you’d expect to be handed down for very serious offenses, sexual assaults and rape, manslaughter,” Andrew Pierson from the Howard League for Penal Reform told RT. “You would not normally expect it to be handed down for downloading music illegally.” The SOCA confirmed it had arrested the owner of the site, but refused to tell RT why it is threatening users with a decade behind bars. Instead, they sent this statement: “SOCA targets organized criminal enterprises profiting from the exploitation of the UK public and legitimate businesses. Much of the music offered for download by the RnBxclusive.com website was illegally obtained from artists, leading the industry to attribute losses of approximately £15 million per year to the site’s activity.” A simple calculation shows that dividing £15 million even by 250,000 known users of RnBxclusive.com gives not more than £60 worth of “stolen” content per person. Does that mean that the British judicial system believes 10 years in prison correlate with the “theft” of just £60? https://rt.com/news/acta-uk-illegal-downloading-jail-753/ ­Unprecedented intimidation ­The message sent by SOCA has given those concerned with Internet freedom an unpleasant taste of what a more regulated future might hold, if the ACTA treaty to protect online copyright infringement and piracy goes ahead. “It (SOCA) claimed that your IP address was being monitored, so you could be monitored and tracked. Again, this was a move which seems quite unprecedented in the UK,” Loz Kaye from the Pirate Party told RT. “I’m really afraid that we’re going to see this kind of abuse on an industrial scale if ACTA comes to pass,” he said. After a shocked response from Internet campaigners, SOCA has taken down the harsh message, and replaced it with a simpler one, which just says they have taken control of the domain. But it has already caused much worry and distress, with many Twitter users apparently unaware that they were visiting a dodgy site, and certainly never dreaming they might be liable to do time for it. Internet campaigners say the notice was meant to frighten – and in reality, severe penalties could not be applied to casual downloaders. They also argue there is nothing to link RnBxclusive with criminal gangs. So why is SOCA even involved? 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Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 130195 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From b.schombe at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 02:51:27 2012 From: b.schombe at gmail.com (Baudouin SCHOMBE) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 08:51:27 +0100 Subject: [governance] Remote Participation In-Reply-To: References: <3FAA017C9B294353BC3AF4FB8E3274EC@UserVAIO> Message-ID: Williams actually, we are on the same wavelength but in different realities. Anyway, I agree with you that we must formalize the concept of RP sustainably and institutionalize this concept for the application which can be feasible in space and time required according to standards established in each country. Which also will capitalize on the experiences of each other in the process of materialization of this concept. SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN Téléphone mobile:+243998983491 email : b.schombe at gmail.com skype : b.schombe blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr Site Web : www.ticafrica.net 2012/3/3 Deirdre Williams > I disagree. > It seems to me 'participation' is available already; what we are fighting > for now is the *real* institutionalisation of remote participation. Adam > pointed out that remote participation is already present in the > documentation - now we need to ensure that it is also present, as a matter > of course, at all of the meetings. > I accept your arguments, but they seem to me to support keeping the > qualifier 'remote' until such times as the goal you describe below - > >> to have electronic participation be as seamless as possible relative to >> in person participation > > has been achieved. > Deirdre > > On 1 March 2012 19:02, Paul Lehto wrote: > >> I do understand why the request here is for "Remote Participation" but I >> would suggest re-framing this request because what people really want is >> Participation, not "Remote Participation" per se. >> >> The goal with things-internet should be to have electronic participation >> be as seamless as possible relative to in person participation. I would >> suggest a global find/replace to find "Remote Participation" and replace it >> with "Participation". If not now, then in the future. A call for >> "Participation without visas" does not seem out of line in the age of the >> internet, but what is sought is Participation, plain and simple. >> >> Sent via remote email, >> Paul Lehto, J.D. >> >> P.S. It seems the feeling many have had with technical problems in >> participation left them feeling quite "remote" to the process of >> participation. :) >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The Statement is available via >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/47 >>> >>> Michael your concerns are factored in the Statement, see Paragraph [4]. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Sala >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:18 AM, michael gurstein wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> (Coming in late, this was caught up in my gmail issues... >>>> >>>> I'ld like to strongly agree with Ginger in this. For me Remote >>>> Participation is not a technical issue but rather has to do with policy. A >>>> commitment to "RP" has a lot of implications of which the technical and >>>> organizational are only part (and even then may be the least significant). >>>> RP implies that the processes of discussion are structured and designed -- >>>> including their planning, set-up, execution and follow-on -- in such a way >>>> that those who are participating remotely are equally enabled and empowered >>>> as those who are participating f2f. >>>> >>>> Achieving this is a huge undertaking to my mind but one worth pursuing >>>> both at the operational and at the policy level. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto: >>>> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Ginger Paque >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:47 AM >>>> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Adam Peake >>>> *Subject:* Re: [governance] Remote Participation >>>> >>>> Adam said: >>>> >>>> I think it's petty to complain about technical problems with the >>>> transcripts etc from the MAG meeting, bad connections happen all the >>>> time (and if MAG members can't work out how to tell a group of people >>>> they are having problems with a connection it perhaps says more about >>>> them than it does about the secretariat/moderators.) >>>> >>>> I think that this full discussion and support for RP is very important >>>> and exciting. >>>> >>>> I think that using the occasion of the recent meetings as an example >>>> and illustration is a mistake. I agree with Adam that the tech glitches >>>> during last week's meetings should not even be addressed--these are >>>> obvious. Placing emphasis on tech details draws attention from the more >>>> valid, and more important principles. I know I am repeating myself, but I >>>> think they boil down to just one: >>>> >>>> RP must be institutionalized in meeting processes. >>>> >>>> The only serious problem I see with last week's meetings was the lack >>>> of a remote moderator and clear processes. If RP -- and I mean remote >>>> participation and remote engagement, not remote observation -- were an >>>> automatic, standard part of meeting strategies and processes, the inclusion >>>> of an onsite remote moderator would have been a given, as much as the >>>> presence of the traditional chair and moderator. I dare to say that if one >>>> of the members of the RPWG had been at the meetings, they might have >>>> 'requested' to be 'allowed' to act as remote moderator. Remote moderation >>>> and remote participation should not depend on collaboration of volunteers >>>> and serendipity. Implementation of RP may always need the collaboration of >>>> volunteers, and the RPWG exists as a volunteer organization, seeking the >>>> privilege of collaborating, but the planning process should originate in >>>> the IGF structure itself, not in the action of volunteers. >>>> >>>> If RP were institutionalized in the IGF process, the Secretariat might >>>> ask the RPWG for collaboration, and issue a call for volunteers. >>>> >>>> If RP were institutionalized in the IGF process, the Secretariat might >>>> include a RPWG (or other mechanism) liaison for strategy, planning and >>>> process and instead of an endless series of ad hoc situations. >>>> >>>> If RP were institutionalized, Remote Hubs -- an innovation of the RPWG >>>> catalysed by Marilia's energy and organization -- would become part of the >>>> IGF process, not the RPWG process, would include remote hubs whenever >>>> appropriate and would include support for regional IGFs. >>>> >>>> I would prefer to see a strong, clear, short statement asking that RP >>>> be institutionalised (maybe that is not the appropriate word) as an >>>> integral part of the IGF meeting process. >>>> >>>> Establishing principles and guidelines is separate process which has >>>> been started, and should be coordinated to take advantage of, and include >>>> the different input. It should not be done in a hurry, in response to one >>>> frustrating meeting. Nor should one frustrating meeting opaque the progress >>>> the IGF has made toward inclusive RP. We should use this meeting to >>>> energize forward progress in an orderly manner. Can we form a better >>>> strategy and focus for productive results? I think so. I have not made >>>> comments on the existing statement, because I would re-write it completely, >>>> with a different approach, with points I have made above. >>>> >>>> Is it proper/possible for me to propose an alternate text? I do not >>>> have the sense that there is consensus for the posts I have made >>>> previously, so I have not done so. >>>> >>>> Anyway, again, my 2 cents. Cheers for the energy around remote >>>> participation! >>>> >>>> Ginger >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >>>> >>>> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu >>>> Diplo Foundation >>>> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme >>>> www.diplomacy.edu/ig >>>> *The latest from Diplo....*From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the >>>> most exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May >>>> 2012: *Bilateral Diplomacy*, *Diplomacy of Small States*, and * >>>> E-diplomacy*. Apply now to reserve your place: >>>> http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 February 2012 05:13, Adam Peake wrote: >>>> >>>>> Comment below: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Dear All, >>>>> > >>>>> > Firstly thank you Deirdre for copying it onto word and making it >>>>> much easier >>>>> > to incorporate the new feedback that we received from Schombe, Jovan, >>>>> > Anriette, Jeremy, Roland, Mariela etc. >>>>> > >>>>> > Whilst I am copying the text onto this email, I will also place it >>>>> on the >>>>> > Statement Workspace as well: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > STATEMENT BY THE CIVIL SOCIETY INTERNET GOVERNANCE CAUCUS ON REMOTE >>>>> > PARTICIPATION >>>>> > >>>>> > We would like to acknowledge the excellent work that the Internet >>>>> Governance >>>>> > Forum Remote Participation Working Group have been doing over the >>>>> last five >>>>> > years. We appreciate the numerous hours of sacrifice and work behind >>>>> the >>>>> > scenes to build remote participation to what it is today. We have >>>>> seen how >>>>> > whilst Technology is important, that it goes hand in hand with >>>>> extraordinary >>>>> > levels of sacrifice and commitment. It is this commitment that >>>>> enables the >>>>> > spirit of the IGF which is in sharing, dialogue, collaboration and >>>>> > ultimately access. >>>>> > >>>>> > We are fortunate that the Internet Governance Forum Secretariat and >>>>> UN DESA >>>>> > are open .and committed to continued improvements to Remote >>>>> Participation. >>>>> > Each year the IGF RPWG commences its operations with training of >>>>> remote >>>>> > moderators many weeks ahead of the meeting, where they discuss with >>>>> remote >>>>> > hubs and encourage participation and liaise with the Secretariat to >>>>> make >>>>> > remote participation a reality. >>>>> > >>>>> > We would like to reiterate and underscore that remote participation >>>>> is a >>>>> > crucial part of organizing the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) and we >>>>> > appreciate the effort to provide remote participation for the Open >>>>> > Consultation, the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) meetings, >>>>> and the >>>>> > MAG meeting this month – February 2012 – which was opened to >>>>> observers. >>>>> > >>>>> > The IGC believes that Remote Participation (RP) should be an >>>>> integral part >>>>> > of Internet Governance and IGF Policy Processes. It is impossible to >>>>> sustain >>>>> > an inclusive global policy process without effective remote >>>>> participation. >>>>> > We would like to explore how we can assist in working together to >>>>> address >>>>> > the issues raised in 2008 by various stakeholders that have yet to be >>>>> > addressed[1]. >>>>> > >>>>> > The MAG and IGF Secretariats should start working with the host to >>>>> ensure >>>>> > that real time transcriptions are available for all sessions and not >>>>> just >>>>> > the Main Sessions. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> from the Nairobi chair's summary document: >>>>> >>>>> "The entire meeting was Webcast, with video streaming provided from >>>>> the main session room and audio streaming provided from all workshop >>>>> meeting rooms. All the main sessions and workshops had real time >>>>> transcription. The text transcripts and video of all meetings were >>>>> made available through the IGF Website." >>>>> >>>>> I think it's petty to complain about technical problems with the >>>>> transcripts etc from the MAG meeting, bad connections happen all the >>>>> time (and if MAG members can't work out how to tell a group of people >>>>> they are having problems with a connection it perhaps says more about >>>>> them than it does about the secretariat/moderators.) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > We would like to commend the excellent work of the technical team >>>>> from >>>>> > Politecnico di Torino, (The Polytechnic University of Turin) which >>>>> was >>>>> > originally brought by our colleague and former IGC Civil Society >>>>> Coordinator >>>>> > Vittorio Bertola. >>>>> > >>>>> > However, we would like to point out some difficulties that occurred >>>>> with the >>>>> > system during the open MAG meeting. On the third day, morning >>>>> session, (the >>>>> > second day of the open MAG meeting), remote observers were >>>>> effectively >>>>> > excluded because they had no access to live transcript. >>>>> > >>>>> > Also MAG members trying to participate online had difficulty in >>>>> contacting >>>>> > moderators, partly because the moderators were serving more than one >>>>> > function. >>>>> > >>>>> > We strongly urge MAG and IGF Secretariats and ourselves to consider >>>>> the >>>>> > following for the future IGF organizing work and the IGF itself, and >>>>> work >>>>> > together to bring them about: >>>>> > >>>>> > · Ensuring equal participation between online and offline >>>>> participants >>>>> > through planning meetings to give online and offline participants an >>>>> equal >>>>> > opportunity to participate and contribute to meetings. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Ensuring that there is sufficient capacity and appropriate >>>>> bandwidth to >>>>> > sustain remote participation by liaising with hosts well in advance >>>>> to >>>>> > enable greater interactions from offline participants. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Preparing a clear comprehensive guideline for remote >>>>> participation and >>>>> > its moderation and post session or meeting reporting for meeting >>>>> hosts, >>>>> > facilitators and chairs. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Clearly advertising opportunities for RP in advance of all >>>>> meetings, >>>>> > with clear guidance for participants on the opportunities to engage >>>>> through >>>>> > RP that will be available. >>>>> > >>>>> > ·Always assigning exclusive remote participation >>>>> coordinator/moderators (who >>>>> > do not have other jobs at the same time, and are responsible for >>>>> > interactions between the meeting’s physical participants/current >>>>> speaker, >>>>> > the Chair and the remote participants). >>>>> > >>>>> > · Establishing a clear procedure that would encourage remote >>>>> participants >>>>> > to intervene. Such a system is desirable both for those physically >>>>> present >>>>> > in Geneva and those observing the meeting remotely. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Providing as much interactivity as possible by giving remote >>>>> > participants to interact and engage in meetings. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Providing multiple methods – video, voice and text channel, as >>>>> well as >>>>> > real-time transcription and video streaming – of coverage of the >>>>> meeting >>>>> > >>>>> > · Enabling the meeting and remote participation through interactive >>>>> > presentations access through RP. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Creating a select Task force or Working Group created that has >>>>> > representatives from the Government, Private Sector and Civil >>>>> Society that >>>>> > is dedicated to seeing improvements of Remote Participation and to >>>>> ensure >>>>> > the incorporation of critical elements that have been highlighted to >>>>> ensure >>>>> > improved remote participation processes. >>>>> > >>>>> > Because only limited funds are available for face- to >>>>> -face participation, >>>>> > this issue is crucially important to all stakeholders from all >>>>> > constituencies who are entitled to participate in the meetings, and >>>>> who wish >>>>> > to do so from a remote location. Meeting Chairs also play a central >>>>> role in >>>>> > creating a dynamic and inclusive environment that welcomes remote >>>>> > participation. >>>>> > >>>>> > We also encourage greater partnership between the governments and >>>>> private >>>>> > sector in enhancing remote participation. >>>>> > >>>>> > We have to move beyond advocacy to listing and creating tangible >>>>> outcomes to >>>>> > make improved, stable and sustainable remote participation a reality. >>>>> > >>>>> > There are regions around the world where transportation is extremely >>>>> > expensive and one such region is the Pacific which has 22 countries >>>>> and >>>>> > territories. Remote participation was the only way that any of these >>>>> > countries could access the IGF. >>>>> > >>>>> > However there is room to improve processes and create an IGF culture >>>>> where >>>>> > remote participation is prioritised through exploring tested >>>>> methodology. >>>>> > >>>>> > The appropriate technical solutions need also to be explored as well >>>>> > bandwidth and ensuring that there is uninterrupted power supply and >>>>> > redundancy options where backup generators are critical to maintain a >>>>> > consistent and seamless flow. The MAG and IGF Secretariats should >>>>> also >>>>> > ensure that there is sufficient and dedicated bandwidth capacity to >>>>> sustain >>>>> > the volume of traffic from remote participation. >>>>> > >>>>> > Aside from having the appropriate technical solutions and should also >>>>> > include the following:- >>>>> > >>>>> > · Outreach. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Mapping local and regional stakeholders; >>>>> > >>>>> > · Coordinating with people on the ground significantly >>>>> before the >>>>> > IGF in a series of strategic roll out. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Creation of Guidelines for Meeting Chairs and Moderators >>>>> whilst >>>>> > noting the limitations. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Identifying how the private sector, civil society and >>>>> governments >>>>> > can be better involved in the remote hubs etc. >>>>> > >>>>> > · Encourage greater collaboration between the IGF RPWG and >>>>> national, >>>>> > sub regional and regional IGFs. >>>>> > >>>>> > We also express our support of the IGF RPWG which published >>>>> guidelines and >>>>> > recommendations for remote participation and IGF 2011 WS-67 >>>>> participants >>>>> > prepared a draft of e-participation principles. >>>>> > >>>>> > Ends >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>> > >>>>> > [1] http://wiki.igf-online.net/wiki/IGF_Virtual_Community >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Deirdre Williams >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear Sala, >>>>> >> I have been unavoidably out of contact all day, and am just >>>>> catching up >>>>> >> with reading the messages. >>>>> >> I am not clear which document you want me to send. >>>>> >> I have attached a word copy of my response yesterday, although from >>>>> >> reading the discussion that has perhaps been superseded during the >>>>> >> discussions today? >>>>> >> Please let me know as I would be delighted to help. >>>>> >> De >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 22 February 2012 14:15, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Dear Deirdre, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> As you know our initial statement was used by the civil society >>>>> component >>>>> >>> of the CSTDWG as advised by Marilia. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> If you could please send it in a word document that would be super >>>>> >>> helpful and easy to put up on the Statement Workspace. We will >>>>> also be >>>>> >>> sending our Statement to the IGF Secretariat. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Kind Regards, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> -- >>>>> >>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>>>> >>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>>> >>> Cell: +679 998 2851 <%2B679%20998%202851> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>>>> William >>>>> >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>>>> > >>>>> > Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>>>> > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>>>> > Cell: +679 998 2851 <%2B679%20998%202851> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> > >>>>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> > >>>>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> !DSPAM:2676,4f461b5125626162813518! >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>> >>> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>> Cell: +679 998 2851 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Paul R Lehto, J.D. >> P.O. Box 1 >> Ishpeming, MI 49849 >> lehto.paul at gmail.com >> 906-204-4026 (cell) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please, I think this formula below is preferred or even both. For those who may have it in their country, but it sticks to those who can not, they can have it upon arrival. Azerbaijan has no diplomatic representation in many countries. SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN Téléphone mobile:+243998983491 email : b.schombe at gmail.com skype : b.schombe blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr Site Web : www.ticafrica.net 2012/3/2 Robert Guerra > Comment made that “will try and see if Visas can be obtained upon > arrival” by IGF participants. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 03:11:00 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:11:00 +0200 Subject: [governance] Web Platform Makes Professor Most Powerful Pirate Message-ID: <4F547514.2090805@gmail.com> 03/02/2012 Liquid Democracy Web Platform Makes Professor Most Powerful Pirate By Sven Becker Photos dapd *A linguistics professor in Bamberg is considered the most powerful member of Germany's burgeoning Pirate Party, even though he holds no office. Martin Haase engages in politics almost exclusively through the Internet using the party's Liquid Feedback software. The platform is flattening the political hierarchy and is unique among German political parties. * Martin Haase doesn't have to give any hard-hitting speeches at party conferences, nor does he spend time at board meetings or in back rooms to hone his power. When the 49-year-old professor wants to engage in politics, he just opens his laptop and logs in to Liquid Feedback, the Pirate Party's online platform for discussing and voting on political proposals. For hours at a time, the political newcomers (the Pirates first formed in Germany in 2006) discuss their party's goals, and each member has the opportunity to use Liquid Feedback as a platform to promote his or her positions -- which can range from the Pirate Party fielding its own presidential candidate to the appeal to deescalate the conflict with Iran. It isn't always easy to secure a majority for a given cause on the site. Until Haase intervenes, that is. The linguistics professor has a sort of virtual alliance backing him on Liquid Feedback. Up to 167 fellow party members have periodically delegated their vote to him on the site, which is more than any other Pirate Party member can claim. When members recently argued against extending the term of their national leadership by two years, Haase intervened. Annual elections of the executive committee would mean the members would have to spend too much time dealing with getting reelected rather than devoting their attention to the real issues. "We need more time for political work," he said. Haase's vote was like a decree. *Seven Percent Support Nationwide* Polls show the Pirate Party enjoying the support of up to 7 percent of voters nationwide. It has secured seats in the parliament of the city-state of Berlin, and in a few weeks it could also enter the parliaments of two other states, Saarland in the west and Schleswig-Holstein in the north. Many voters aren't quite sure what exactly the Pirates stand for. Perhaps its open and straightforward participation in the political process will attract more public support. And it's possible the party will only become attractive through careers like that of Haase, who became arguably the most powerful Pirate without even holding an office in the party. On a winter's day, the professor is standing in a lecture hall at the University of Bamberg, talking about how language was used as a political tool at the time of the French Revolution. After the overthrow of the monarchy, the new leadership wanted to eliminate dialects and regional languages. It wanted people to speak only French, so that they could understand the ideas of the revolution. "Freedom through oppression," Haase says to his students. It's a view to which he has a strong aversion. Haase, an impish-looking man with a three-day stubble, holds a professorship for Romance studies and speaks nine languages. But the digital world is just as important to him, and it's been that way for more than 20 years. He had an email address as far back as 1991, when unfiltered information still flowed from one Internet exchange point to the next. It was a time of freedom, the same freedom that continues to influence Haase's thinking today. "I feel violated when someone tries to block information," he says. Starting in 2003 Haase, who goes by the name "Maha" on the Internet, and others developed the German version of Wikipedia . He later became a member of the board of the Chaos Computer Club, the globally influential German hacking association. Initially, he was skeptical about the Pirates. Haase saw how activist friends became interested in the organization but then gave up because it felt too chaotic to them. This changed in 2009, with the Access Impediment Act, pushed through by then-German Family Minister Ursula von der Leyen under the previous government to block websites that contained child pornography. Fearing it would violate freedom of speech by blocking websites and that it might set a precedent for further incursions on Net freedom, Web activists disparagingly dubbed the family minister "Zensursula," a play on the German word for censorship and the politician's first name. The law was passed and signed by Germany's president, but it has not been implemented by the government. Earlier this year Chancellor Angela Merkel's government said it would move to delete any websites that feature child pornography rather than block them. The Pirate Party's popularity surged as a result of the protests. *A Net Movement Takes Shape* The Net movement in Germany began in earnest around the same time as the "Zensursula" debate, and the Pirates became its strongest political wing. In an unexpected victory, the Pirate Party captured 0.9 percent of the vote in the June 2009 elections for the European Parliament, the legislative body in the European Union that is directly elected by citizens of the member states. Haase joined the party the very next day. For years, he had been sharply critical of the established parties for their incompetence on matters relating to Internet policy, but now he had found a political home. "It had a therapeutic effect on me," says Haase. In the established parties, like the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU), the center-left Social Democratic Party (SPD) and the Green Party, he would have had to fight his way to the top, but not with the Pirates. Haase writes his own blogs, has more than 5,000 followers on Twitter and produces the Pirate podcast "Klabautercast" ("Hobgoblincast"). As a result, he quickly made a name for himself in the community. He also used his podcast to introduce a family and gender policy concept. Haase wants marriage and registered life partnership to be legally equal and to eliminate the tax advantages in Germany that are bestowed exclusively on heterosexual marriages. He also wants the government to stop documenting the gender of its citizens. Together with allies, he campaigned for his proposal on Twitter and in Pirate forums, and then he introduced it on Liquid Feedback, where he soon found enough supporters. Haase won the non-binding vote on the Internet and, in November 2010, took the results to the party's national convention. His motion was accepted. The open source Liquid Feedback software -- developed in Berlin and launched by the Pirates in 2010 -- is unique in German party politics. With the platform, issues that would previously only gradually find their way to the national leadership through local, district and state organizations can quickly gain momentum and importance, so that they can then be voted on at party conferences. "It is difficult to vote against a clear opinion that is emerging on Liquid Feedback," says Haase, who, when he isn't teaching in Bamberg, lives in Berlin and is a member of the party's state organization there. *A Powerful Professor* Some fellow party members have so much confidence in Haase that they have given him their permanent vote on Liquid Feedback, meaning he can speak for them on all issues. This is referred to as "global delegation." Other supporters give him their blanket votes on specific issues only, such as education ("subject area delegation") or on a specific issue ("issue delegation"). The professor is one of the most active members of the online platform. He has submitted almost 30 motions on Liquid Feedback, and almost all have been accepted, says Haase. His ideas on education, integration and family policy, for example, shape the party's profile. Haase has become the digital éminence grise of the Pirates, even though he has never held party office. Even Pirate Party Chairman Sebastian Nerz frequently gets a taste of the power the professor wields with his virtual votes. He and Haase have never met in person, but they have tangled with each other online, disagreeing over family policy or procedural questions on Liquid Feedback. Haase prevailed in both cases. In other parties, when an ordinary member challenges the national chairman it triggers a political earthquake. In the Pirate Party, it's taken for granted. "Maha doesn't grandstand, and yet he is approachable at any time," says Andreas Baum, the party's floor leader in the Berlin city parliament. "People trust him because he has never come across as a schemer," says Pavel Mayer, another Pirate Party member of the Berlin city parliament. For the two men, Haase embodies the concept of the grassroots Pirate, who seeks to bring about change but isn't interested in leadership positions. This appeals to people in a party that rejects authority. The Pirates call their political approach "liquid democracy," meaning that for them everything flows, and there is indeed something fluid about the way they reach consensus on the Internet. Once gained, though, influence can disappear just as quickly. This is also an experience Haase has had with Liquid Feedback. Many pirates gave him their votes in 2010, when the party was seeking to define its position on the concept of an unconditional basic income guarantee. They were confident that Haase would support it. To their surprise, however, he transferred his votes to another party member, who voted against the motion, and was defeated. As a linguist, says Haase, he was also opposed to the initiative because of linguistic weaknesses. But this didn't convince his supporters, and about 50 Pirates promptly withdrew the votes they had assigned to him. Haase eventually approved a revised motion, and since then the number of members supporting him has gone up again. /Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) and Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL) are the organisers of this coalition and, as is traditional, we are now seeking further interested members who are interested in the topic and wish to be kept informed of the DC's activities, discussions and progress. This email gives some background on the DC, and further information is available on request. Background At the IGF 2011, Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL) organised a workshop to discuss the findings of a recent study of perceptions of public libraries by policy makers in six countries in Africa. The study revealed that policy makers still think of libraries in terms of printed media, and not as spaces for catalysing internet access and use. Evidence was presented that public libraries that offer innovative and ICT enabled services based on free public access to the Internet can contribute to positive change in their communities and support development goals in vital areas including health, agriculture, employment, education and children and youth at risk. The lively workshop discussion underlined the need for a shared vision and dialogue by policy makers, civil society, private industry and librarians, on how Internet-enabled public libraries can contribute to achieving the Millennium Development Goals. The workshop discussion finished with an agreement between participants to move ahead with the creation of a Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries to explore these issues further in an IGF setting. Necessity While the number of Internet users worldwide now tops two billion, it is important to remember that a significant percentage will not have their own network connection. Instead, hundreds of millions of people utilise the Internet through shared connections, or through providers of public access to the Internet such as libraries. It will not be possible to maintain or increase the number of worldwide users without continued support for public access to the Internet - something that is even more important in times of financial austerity when the role of public libraries, and the gateways they offer to free or low-cost Internet access, becomes even more crucial to people's opportunities in areas such as employment, education and health. However, libraries still remain largely overlooked as community development partners. Within the context of the IGF, no arena currently exists for the discussion of Internet governance issues relating to public access intermediaries such as public libraries. Public access to the Internet is tackled in a cross-programme sense, but the sheer reach of libraries - there are over one billion registered library users on the planet - demands that special attention be paid to the challenges and opportunities faced and offered by these crucial institutions. Everyday libraries face challenges offered by serving disparate user groups - children and young people, the unemployed, the elderly, the disabled and many other mainstream and marginalised groups. They may be the only places in communities that allow access to social media or Internet telephony, or provide gateways to e-government services. Public library staff must be aware of and able to serve the needs of users, while at the same time remaining aware of privacy and human rights issues. The formation of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries creates a space within the IGF to address the Internet governance issues relating to public access, and will enable a discussion to take place about how the existing expertise, networks and infrastructure offered by public libraries can contribute to the goals and spirit of the WSIS process. This discussion would be truly multi-stakeholder - public libraries are funded by the taxpayer and embedded in government infrastructure, they are frequented by members of civil society and the entrepreneurs behind SMEs, and they frequently partner with the private sector to provide buildings and services. A Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries would benefit from the participation of representatives from all these groups. Objectives * To place public access to the Internet through public libraries on the agenda of the IGF as a cross-cutting issue on a number of IGF key themes e.g. Internet Governance and Development; Access and Diversity; Security, Openness and Privacy; Youth. * To ensure that representatives of libraries and their users are consulted on issues of Internet Governance within, and outside of, the context of the IGF. * To create a dialogue between library representatives and policy makers on the potential of public libraries in major policy areas such as social cohesion, education, employment, community development, health and agriculture, in pursuit of sustainable funding and favourable policies towards libraries. * To feed in IGF-related activities to existing EIFL and IFLA work programmes for ICTD in 2012 and beyond, such as the Beyond Access Campaign on libraries and development, European Union activities on e-Inclusion and the IFLA World Library and Information Congress (WLIC) in Helsinki in August 2012. Interested Members? We are seeking interested organisations and individuals from all stakeholder groups to contribute to the work of the Dynamic Coalition. As with other coalitions, collaboration can range from following and participating in discussions on the DC mailing list, to active participation in workshops and events at the main IGF and related regional/national IGFs. IFLA and EIFL already plan to participate at the EuroDIG, and those interested in this topic may also be interested in the forthcoming Beyond Access Campaign (http://www.beyondaccesscampaign.org/) which works to promote the role of public libraries in delivering development goals. Please send me (stuart.hamilton at ifla.org) an email with your/your organisation's details if you are interested in being a member of this DC. I apologise for the long email but I hope that this background information is useful. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require any further information. 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We accept and join to this platform Baudouin 2012/3/5 Stuart Hamilton > Dear Colleagues**** > > ** ** > > I am pleased to inform you of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in > Libraries which has been approved by the IGF Secretariat. The International > Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) and Electronic > Information for Libraries (EIFL) are the organisers of this coalition and, > as is traditional, we are now seeking further interested members who are > interested in the topic and wish to be kept informed of the DC’s > activities, discussions and progress. This email gives some background on > the DC, and further information is available on request.**** > > ** ** > > *Background* > > * * > > At the IGF 2011, Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL) organised a > workshop to discuss the findings of a recent study of perceptions of public > libraries by policy makers in six countries in Africa. The study revealed > that policy makers still think of libraries in terms of printed media, and > not as spaces for catalysing internet access and use. Evidence was > presented that public libraries that offer innovative and ICT enabled > services based on free public access to the Internet can contribute to > positive change in their communities and support development goals in vital > areas including health, agriculture, employment, education and children and > youth at risk. The lively workshop discussion underlined the need for a > shared vision and dialogue by policy makers, civil society, private > industry and librarians, on how Internet-enabled public libraries can > contribute to achieving the Millennium Development Goals. The workshop > discussion finished with an agreement between participants to move ahead > with the creation of a Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries to > explore these issues further in an IGF setting.**** > > ** ** > > *Necessity* > > ** ** > > While the number of Internet users worldwide now tops two billion, it is > important to remember that a significant percentage will not have their own > network connection. Instead, hundreds of millions of people utilise the > Internet through shared connections, or through providers of public access > to the Internet such as libraries. It will not be possible to maintain or > increase the number of worldwide users without continued support for public > access to the Internet – something that is even more important in times of > financial austerity when the role of public libraries, and the gateways > they offer to free or low-cost Internet access, becomes even more crucial > to people’s opportunities in areas such as employment, education and health. > **** > > ** ** > > However, libraries still remain largely overlooked as community > development partners. Within the context of the IGF, no arena currently > exists for the discussion of Internet governance issues relating to public > access intermediaries such as public libraries. Public access to the > Internet is tackled in a cross-programme sense, but the sheer reach of > libraries – there are over one billion registered library users on the > planet – demands that special attention be paid to the challenges and > opportunities faced and offered by these crucial institutions. Everyday > libraries face challenges offered by serving disparate user groups – > children and young people, the unemployed, the elderly, the disabled and > many other mainstream and marginalised groups. They may be the only places > in communities that allow access to social media or Internet telephony, or > provide gateways to e-government services. Public library staff must be > aware of and able to serve the needs of users, while at the same time > remaining aware of privacy and human rights issues. **** > > ** ** > > The formation of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries > creates a space within the IGF to address the Internet governance issues > relating to public access, and will enable a discussion to take place about > how the existing expertise, networks and infrastructure offered by public > libraries can contribute to the goals and spirit of the WSIS process. This > discussion would be truly multi-stakeholder – public libraries are funded > by the taxpayer and embedded in government infrastructure, they are > frequented by members of civil society and the entrepreneurs behind SMEs, > and they frequently partner with the private sector to provide buildings > and services. A Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries would > benefit from the participation of representatives from all these groups.** > ** > > ** ** > > *Objectives* > > ** ** > > **· **To place public access to the Internet through public > libraries on the agenda of the IGF as a cross-cutting issue on a number of > IGF key themes e.g. Internet Governance and Development; Access and > Diversity; Security, Openness and Privacy; Youth. **** > > ** ** > > **· **To ensure that representatives of libraries and their users > are consulted on issues of Internet Governance within, and outside of, the > context of the IGF.**** > > ** ** > > **· **To create a dialogue between library representatives and > policy makers on the potential of public libraries in major policy areas > such as social cohesion, education, employment, community development, > health and agriculture, in pursuit of sustainable funding and favourable > policies towards libraries.**** > > ** ** > > **· **To feed in IGF-related activities to existing EIFL and IFLA > work programmes for ICTD in 2012 and beyond, such as the Beyond Access > Campaign on libraries and development, European Union activities on > e-Inclusion and the IFLA World Library and Information Congress (WLIC) in > Helsinki in August 2012.**** > > ** ** > > *Interested Members?* > > ** ** > > We are seeking interested organisations and individuals from all > stakeholder groups to contribute to the work of the Dynamic Coalition. As > with other coalitions, collaboration can range from following and > participating in discussions on the DC mailing list, to active > participation in workshops and events at the main IGF and related > regional/national IGFs. IFLA and EIFL already plan to participate at the > EuroDIG, and those interested in this topic may also be interested in the > forthcoming Beyond Access Campaign (http://www.beyondaccesscampaign.org/) > which works to promote the role of public libraries in delivering > development goals. *Please send me (stuart.hamilton at ifla.org) an email > with your/your organisation’s details if you are interested in being a > member of this DC.* > > ** ** > > ** ** > > I apologise for the long email but I hope that this background information > is useful. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require any further > information.**** > > ** ** > > Kind regards,**** > > ** ** > > Stuart**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Stuart Hamilton**** > > Director of Policy and Advocacy**** > > International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA)** > ** > > P.O. 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In-Reply-To: <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AA8A4@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> If they discuss IPv6, they must also discuss the emergence of trading markets for scarce IPv4 addresses, which is actually the only relevant policy issue at the moment and one which actually (unlike 90% of what is now discussed at IGF) something that requires global coordination and governance. Naturally I'd put myself forward as someone who both knows something about that issue and would offer a refreshing alternative reality-check to what you are likely to get from certain other sources. From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:31 AM To: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; IGF Members; governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR? Hi Tulika There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and questions for the CIR session. Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!), migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants, the government reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their thoughts either way. Since you are not on the (still active) 2011 MAG I don't know if you can join, but you might try, otherwise I'd be happy to pass along any statements from you as inputs. Best Bill On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY > wrote: Dear All, I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his inputs on ITU initiatives. Tulika Pandey On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso > wrote: Dear people, The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet resources": --- begin doc citation --- 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points. 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues theme, including, inter alia; • Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet; • IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries? • What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names, i.e. IDN.IDN? • Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and IDN gTLDs; • Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues drive or impact policy. --- end doc citation --- In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at, among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above points are far from sufficient. At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU meetings' outcomes. fraternal regards --c.a. _______________________________________________ igf_members mailing list igf_members at intgovforum.org http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org -- Tulika Pandey Additional Director Department of Information Technology Room 3089, Electronics Niketan 6 CGO Complex, New Delhi - 110 003 Tel(0): 91-11-24364739 Mob: +91- 9810670981 _______________________________________________ igf-cir mailing list igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is a good example of how certain people participate in ICANN: as a channel for networking to advance their own personal power and income. We should never be naïve enough to think that those kind of people don't play a major role in open institutions (or closed ones, for that matter). --MM From: Veni Markovski [mailto:veni at veni.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:39 AM To: Fred Burton Subject: Re: Hi Hi. I saw Strafor's George Fridman being quoted in the New York Times on the situation in Georgia, and that triggered my interest, as I have a lot of contacts on different levels in Russia/CIS/Black Sea region. I would be thankful if you could point me to someone at Stratfor, who is dealing with the region, so that we can exchange some information, and see if there might be potential for some future cooperation. Would it be possible to talk to someone over the phone? My phone is 646-873-7708 Thanks. From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:18 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Petko Kolev Cc: Paul Lehto; McTim Subject: Re: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor But is that enough to insinuate that the leak came from him? Could someone have hacked into his mailbox or sent the email from his government mailing address with the intention of destroying his reputation? Would a reasonable person intending to send information do so from a public address which is subject to internal scrutiny and mechanisms? Assuming that there was a deliberate move to destroy Veni, what I am interested in is what is the reason behind targeting Veni and what is the "unseen play" that "someone" does'nt want us to "see". Hmmmm On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Petko Kolev > wrote: Here is an English translation of the original article: http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=137218 People in Bulgaria doesn`t seem to care about how Statfor describes Veni (imo, its ludicrous, yes), but care about what he might have done during his affiliation with the "private CIA", because in the same time he was an adviser to the Bulgarian president and to the minister of IT. For example, he contacted Statfor from a governmental mailbox. (http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/558496_email-of-fred-burton-.html) Cheers, Petko On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Paul Lehto > wrote: > > Unless the authenticity of the Stratfor documents is attacked (and I'm not > aware that it is being attacked) then no matter how "ludicrous" it is, or > appears to be, it nevertheless reveals the processes of the Stratfor > organization that seems to style itself as a private CIA, specifically as > these processes touch upon internet governance, even including discussion of > Veni (a member of this list for many years). > > Whether it's ludicrous or not, it's relevant to what's happening, and > reveals the (messed up) ways Stratfor thinks about internet governance and > then presumably advises its high profile client list accordingly. These > clients are paying Stratfor good money for advice about internet governance > and other issues. > > Just think, Stratfor could have made more money and assembled better advice > about internet governance by cutting and pasting from this listserv. :) > > Paul Lehto, J.D. > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, McTim > wrote: >> >> On 3/2/12, Petko Kolev > wrote: >> > Might be interesting - >> > >> > http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/ >> >> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for >> many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire >> telecommunications oligarch". >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > -- > Paul R Lehto, J.D. > P.O. Box 1 > Ishpeming, MI 49849 > lehto.paul at gmail.com > 906-204-4026 (cell) > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AA8A4@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AA8A4@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Hi Milton, On Monday, March 5, 2012, Milton L Mueller wrote: > If they discuss IPv6, they must also discuss the emergence of trading markets for scarce IPv4 addresses, which is actually the only relevant policy issue at the moment and one which actually (unlike 90% of what is now discussed at IGF) something that requires global coordination and governance. > Exactly what global coordination and governance do you mean? I thought you were a proponent of an unfettered v4 market!? Rgds, McTim > > > Naturally I'd put myself forward as someone who both knows something about that issue and would offer a refreshing alternative reality-check to what you are likely to get from certain other sources. > > > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of William Drake > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:31 AM > To: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se > Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; IGF Members; governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR? > > > > Hi Tulika > > > > There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and questions for the CIR session. Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!), migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants, the government reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their thoughts either way. Since you are not on the (still active) 2011 MAG I don't know if you can join, but you might try, otherwise I'd be happy to pass along any statements from you as inputs. > > > > Best > > > > Bill > > > > On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his inputs on ITU initiatives. > > > > > > Tulika Pandey > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > > Dear people, > > The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the > IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet > resources": > > --- begin doc citation --- > > 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several > commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the > institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP > addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points. > > 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues > theme, including, inter alia; > > • Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet; > > • IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that > may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion > of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries? > > • What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names, > i.e. IDN.IDN? > > • Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and > IDN gTLDs; > > • Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues > drive or impact policy. > > --- end doc citation --- > > In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at, > among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take > account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above > points are far from sufficient. > > At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU > meetings' outcomes. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > _______________________________________________ > igf_members mailing list > igf_members at intgovforum.org > http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org > > > > -- > Tulika Pandey > Additional Director > Department of Information Technology > Room 3089, Electronics Niketan > 6 CGO Complex, Ne -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. 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While I do not agree with all of Zizek, what he said on Wikileaks in general is, it is not like we did not know, but now we can no longer pretend. Or not. As Hegel said, civil society is an ugly place. Perhaps one cannot help feeling rather naive in participating in civil society processes (maybe this makes for true and necessary idealism). Especially when there is such an intimate association between certain government & corporation interests duly reflected in civil society as well. While other important public interest voices are (by and large) kept at a low intensity democracy distance like Alfonso, Parminder, Gurstein or Auerbach etc (not uninfluential, but merely my estimate in terms of outcomes). Other concerns then do arise about civil society players who made common cause with such views. Discerning who is what is quite difficult as there are many many well meaning individuals and organisations who recognise the threats and seek to limit the egregious excesses of the system and need to maintain "credibility" for their reform efforts. This is an ugly business indeed and it is great that many in this community seen it for what it is. On 2012/03/05 10:00 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > Veni contacted Stratfor, that much is clear. (See initial email text > below) "Potential for future cooperation" is typical consultant-speak > for some kind of a deal. > > It is a good example of how certain people participate in ICANN: as a > channel for networking to advance their own personal power and income. > > We should never be naïve enough to think that those kind of people > don't play a major role in open institutions (or closed ones, for that > matter). > > --MM > > From: Veni Markovski [mailto:veni at veni.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:39 AM > To: Fred Burton > Subject: Re: Hi > > Hi. > I saw Strafor's George Fridman being quoted in the New York Times on the > situation in Georgia, and that triggered my interest, as I have a lot of > contacts on different levels in Russia/CIS/Black Sea region. > I would be thankful if you could point me to someone at Stratfor, who is > dealing with the region, so that we can exchange some information, and see > if there might be potential for some future cooperation. > > Would it be possible to talk to someone over the phone? My phone is > 646-873-7708 > > Thanks. > > *From:*governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of > *Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro > *Sent:* Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:18 PM > *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Petko Kolev > *Cc:* Paul Lehto; McTim > *Subject:* Re: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor > > But is that enough to insinuate that the leak came from him? Could > someone have hacked into his mailbox or sent the email from his > government mailing address with the intention of destroying his > reputation? > > Would a reasonable person intending to send information do so from a > public address which is subject to internal scrutiny and mechanisms? > > Assuming that there was a deliberate move to destroy Veni, what I am > interested in is what is the reason behind targeting Veni and what is > the "unseen play" that "someone" does'nt want us to "see". > > Hmmmm > > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Petko Kolev > wrote: > > Here is an English translation of the original article: > http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=137218 > > People in Bulgaria doesn`t seem to care about how Statfor describes > Veni (imo, its ludicrous, yes), but care about what he might have done > during his affiliation with the "private CIA", because in the same > time he was an adviser to the Bulgarian president and to the minister > of IT. For example, he contacted Statfor from a governmental mailbox. > (http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/558496_email-of-fred-burton-.html) > > Cheers, > Petko > > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Paul Lehto > wrote: > > > > Unless the authenticity of the Stratfor documents is attacked (and > I'm not > > aware that it is being attacked) then no matter how "ludicrous" it > is, or > > appears to be, it nevertheless reveals the processes of the Stratfor > > organization that seems to style itself as a private CIA, > specifically as > > these processes touch upon internet governance, even including > discussion of > > Veni (a member of this list for many years). > > > > Whether it's ludicrous or not, it's relevant to what's happening, and > > reveals the (messed up) ways Stratfor thinks about internet > governance and > > then presumably advises its high profile client list accordingly. > These > > clients are paying Stratfor good money for advice about internet > governance > > and other issues. > > > > Just think, Stratfor could have made more money and assembled better > advice > > about internet governance by cutting and pasting from this listserv. :) > > > > Paul Lehto, J.D. > > > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, McTim > wrote: > >> > >> On 3/2/12, Petko Kolev > wrote: > >> > Might be interesting - > >> > > >> > > http://domainincite.com/icann-staffer-linked-to-hacked-intelligence-firm/ > >> > >> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for > >> many years, not a likely activity for a “Bulgarian billionaire > >> telecommunications oligarch”. > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers, > >> > >> McTim > >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul R Lehto, J.D. > > P.O. Box 1 > > Ishpeming, MI 49849 > > lehto.paul at gmail.com > > 906-204-4026 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > > Cell: +679 998 2851 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 22:08:23 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:08:23 -0800 Subject: [governance] FW: NET.LANG: Towards a multilingual cyberspace Message-ID: <5318741E464349B4945112D508A613E7@UserVAIO> This looks very useful. M -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Pimienta [mailto:pimienta at funredes.org] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:09 PM To: pimienta at funredes.org Subject: NET.LANG: Towards a multilingual cyberspace Hello dear colleagues, Sharing with you the announcement of a new book which may be of interest for you: NET.LANG: Towards a multilingual cyberspace http://net-lang.net/lang_en Electronic version is free. So far in French and English and looking for institutions interested in offering more translations... Cheers, Daniel ========== Cher(e)s collègues, Je partage avec vous l'annonce de ce nouevau livre qui peut vous intéressez: NET.LANG: Réussir le cyberespace multilingue http://net-lang.net/ La version électronique est gratuite Pour le moment en français et anglais et en recherche d'institutions intéressées pour un appui à d'autres traductions. Daniel =========== Queridos/as colegas, Comparto con ustedes el aanunbcio de ese nuevo libro que le puede interesar: NET.LANG: Lograr un ciberespacio multilingual http://net-lang.net/ La version electronica es gratis. Por el momento existe en francés y inglés y en búsqueda de instituciones interesadas en apoyar nuevas traducciones. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Mon Mar 5 22:53:22 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 03:53:22 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? In-Reply-To: References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AA8A4@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAA9@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> You can't have an unfettered market until the framework for transfers is harmonized and globalized across RIRs. The issue of legacy holders' rights needs to be settled. The way for inter-regional transfers needs to be cleared. A strong ASO or process for making global policies, which usually fails in the RIR system, needs to be created. And so on. See you at the ASO meeting in CR! --MM From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 3:19 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller Cc: William Drake; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; Carlos A. Afonso; IGF Members Subject: Re: [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? Hi Milton, On Monday, March 5, 2012, Milton L Mueller > wrote: > If they discuss IPv6, they must also discuss the emergence of trading markets for scarce IPv4 addresses, which is actually the only relevant policy issue at the moment and one which actually (unlike 90% of what is now discussed at IGF) something that requires global coordination and governance. > Exactly what global coordination and governance do you mean? I thought you were a proponent of an unfettered v4 market!? Rgds, McTim > > > Naturally I'd put myself forward as someone who both knows something about that issue and would offer a refreshing alternative reality-check to what you are likely to get from certain other sources. > > > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of William Drake > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:31 AM > To: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se > Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; IGF Members; governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR? > > > > Hi Tulika > > > > There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and questions for the CIR session. Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!), migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants, the government reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their thoughts either way. Since you are not on the (still active) 2011 MAG I don't know if you can join, but you might try, otherwise I'd be happy to pass along any statements from you as inputs. > > > > Best > > > > Bill > > > > On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY > wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his inputs on ITU initiatives. > > > > > > Tulika Pandey > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso > wrote: > > Dear people, > > The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the > IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet > resources": > > --- begin doc citation --- > > 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several > commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the > institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP > addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points. > > 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues > theme, including, inter alia; > > * Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet; > > * IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that > may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion > of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries? > > * What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names, > i.e. IDN.IDN? > > * Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and > IDN gTLDs; > > * Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues > drive or impact policy. > > --- end doc citation --- > > In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at, > among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take > account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above > points are far from sufficient. > > At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU > meetings' outcomes. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > _______________________________________________ > igf_members mailing list > igf_members at intgovforum.org > http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org > > > > -- > Tulika Pandey > Additional Director > Department of Information Technology > Room 3089, Electronics Niketan > 6 CGO Complex, Ne -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Mon Mar 5 23:06:34 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 04:06:34 +0000 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> > -----Original Message----- > > Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for > many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire > telecommunications oligarch". [Milton L Mueller] Not sure what your point is, McTim. True, he is not a billionaire telecom oligarch, as we can conclude from his need for an ICANN salary, consulting contracts and various forms of sucking up to whoever happens to hold power, in Bulgaria as in ICANN. But it's an open list, and his presence on it proves nothing. Any number of people, with motives fair, foul, or in-between, are free to join this list and keep an eye on civil society deliberations. Veni's presence fits perfectly with the pattern of the networking opportunist; playing both side of the fence; keeping watch; selling information; and dipping into civil society discourse only as necessary to fend off any attacks or potential disruptions to the system he exploits so well. --MM -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dogwallah at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 23:24:36 2012 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 04:24:36 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAA9@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AA8A4@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAA9@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: (cc list trimmed) Hi, On 3/6/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: > You can't have an unfettered market until the framework for transfers is > harmonized and globalized across RIRs. I see that as a highly unlikely outcome. > The issue of legacy holders' rights needs to be settled. The way for > inter-regional transfers needs to be cleared. A strong ASO or process for > making global policies, which usually fails in the RIR system, We already have a well-functioning ASO coordinating global policy. Surely you can't complain about how IP address policies are made from the bottom up (by RIR communities) then (if a global policy) sent to ASO? In your own words, it's an "exceptional" process. To my mind, it's exceptional in that there are processes that aren't varied from (so you don't see the ICANN Board intervening as in the IRC/IOC case). needs to be > created. We already have this as well. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dogwallah at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 00:23:18 2012 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:23:18 +0000 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On 3/6/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for >> many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire >> telecommunications oligarch". > > [Milton L Mueller] > > Not sure what your point is, McTim. True, he is not a billionaire telecom > oligarch that was my point! -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tinadam at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 00:28:02 2012 From: tinadam at gmail.com (Tina Dam) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:28:02 -0800 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: I don't see anything in this story at all. Also, please note that Veni did provide a comment to the article on domainincite. So really, unless anybody has any proof of anything bad having happened (which I don't see) then I would suggest the topic is useless. Also, I find it kind of rude to speak about someone else and this type of rumors without cc'ing the person on the conversations. I would hope that if the conversation was about me that I would be brought into the email so that I could at least have my say. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:23 PM, McTim wrote: > On 3/6/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for >>> many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire >>> telecommunications oligarch". >> >> [Milton L Mueller] >> >> Not sure what your point is, McTim. True, he is not a billionaire telecom >> oligarch > > that was my point! > > > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Tue Mar 6 03:34:15 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:34:15 +0200 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <37F85F3A-34A2-4210-810A-16B5A6E2D30B@digsys.bg> Tina, Unless you know Veni better than me and a number of other people, it is you who need to prove your point. Or just look again. I was also told a number of times, that despite all the evidence, it was ICANN internal policy to never ever discuss or question another staffer business. This by itself is bad enough, even if we forget about this disclosure of Veni's activities. I have enough evidence to back all of this and then some, but like I said before, this is dirty mess and such has never been my way. Therefore I will (hard) to limit my comments to be as generic as possible. Some people see in this lack of 'proofs' - including you trough the years, but that is fine with me. :-) Veni is far from Internet oligarch in Bulgaria. I have made it a point in my professional carrier that such do not exist. Further, for many people in Bulgaria, Veni is in fact just one of those emigrants who went around the world in search of personal fulfillment, so they just pity him. Some of these people are well aware of Veni's "connections" to what some might even characterize as "OC" and the comment that this is not unexpected as "he is Bulgarian" only misses the piece "and because of his background". Not that I had any doubt, but I still spent time to read all of the disclosed material. At first glance, all those Stratfor messages look like foolish child's play, but when you connect the dots it turns out to be encryption code. I am more than confident, that what we saw is just the tip of the iceberg and that more of the stuff happened off-line and thus not recorded in this public chat (who in their sane mind sends sensitive, not to say spy-network information from their blackberry?) As a coincidence, I too have evidence that Veni is not connected to FSB, or at least was not connected at the time that e-mails were exchanged. ;-) Daniel PS: By the way, after reading the first few comments on this topic, I was confident that Tina will come back to defend Veni.. Deja Vu.. On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:28 AM, Tina Dam wrote: > I don't see anything in this story at all. Also, please note that Veni > did provide a comment to the article on domainincite. So really, > unless anybody has any proof of anything bad having happened (which I > don't see) then I would suggest the topic is useless. > > Also, I find it kind of rude to speak about someone else and this type > of rumors without cc'ing the person on the conversations. I would hope > that if the conversation was about me that I would be brought into the > email so that I could at least have my say. > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:23 PM, McTim wrote: >> On 3/6/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for >>>> many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire >>>> telecommunications oligarch". >>> >>> [Milton L Mueller] >>> >>> Not sure what your point is, McTim. True, he is not a billionaire telecom >>> oligarch >> >> that was my point! >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 06:37:19 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:37:19 +1200 Subject: [governance] Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries In-Reply-To: References: <54A34818249DE34CB1697E94F0553F3701AF36A8@mfp01.IFLA.lan> Message-ID: Congratulations Stuart!!! On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Baudouin Schombe < baudouin.schombe at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Stuart, > > This is a very good information because our structure is facing > difficulties to implement community access centers with libraries, despite > the need felt and expressed. > > We accept and join to this platform > > Baudouin > > 2012/3/5 Stuart Hamilton > >> Dear Colleagues**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I am pleased to inform you of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in >> Libraries which has been approved by the IGF Secretariat. The International >> Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) and Electronic >> Information for Libraries (EIFL) are the organisers of this coalition and, >> as is traditional, we are now seeking further interested members who are >> interested in the topic and wish to be kept informed of the DC’s >> activities, discussions and progress. This email gives some background on >> the DC, and further information is available on request.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *Background* >> >> * * >> >> At the IGF 2011, Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL) organised a >> workshop to discuss the findings of a recent study of perceptions of public >> libraries by policy makers in six countries in Africa. The study revealed >> that policy makers still think of libraries in terms of printed media, and >> not as spaces for catalysing internet access and use. Evidence was >> presented that public libraries that offer innovative and ICT enabled >> services based on free public access to the Internet can contribute to >> positive change in their communities and support development goals in vital >> areas including health, agriculture, employment, education and children and >> youth at risk. The lively workshop discussion underlined the need for a >> shared vision and dialogue by policy makers, civil society, private >> industry and librarians, on how Internet-enabled public libraries can >> contribute to achieving the Millennium Development Goals. The workshop >> discussion finished with an agreement between participants to move ahead >> with the creation of a Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries to >> explore these issues further in an IGF setting.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *Necessity* >> >> ** ** >> >> While the number of Internet users worldwide now tops two billion, it is >> important to remember that a significant percentage will not have their own >> network connection. Instead, hundreds of millions of people utilise the >> Internet through shared connections, or through providers of public access >> to the Internet such as libraries. It will not be possible to maintain or >> increase the number of worldwide users without continued support for public >> access to the Internet – something that is even more important in times of >> financial austerity when the role of public libraries, and the gateways >> they offer to free or low-cost Internet access, becomes even more crucial >> to people’s opportunities in areas such as employment, education and health. >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> However, libraries still remain largely overlooked as community >> development partners. Within the context of the IGF, no arena currently >> exists for the discussion of Internet governance issues relating to public >> access intermediaries such as public libraries. Public access to the >> Internet is tackled in a cross-programme sense, but the sheer reach of >> libraries – there are over one billion registered library users on the >> planet – demands that special attention be paid to the challenges and >> opportunities faced and offered by these crucial institutions. Everyday >> libraries face challenges offered by serving disparate user groups – >> children and young people, the unemployed, the elderly, the disabled and >> many other mainstream and marginalised groups. They may be the only places >> in communities that allow access to social media or Internet telephony, or >> provide gateways to e-government services. Public library staff must be >> aware of and able to serve the needs of users, while at the same time >> remaining aware of privacy and human rights issues. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> The formation of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries >> creates a space within the IGF to address the Internet governance issues >> relating to public access, and will enable a discussion to take place about >> how the existing expertise, networks and infrastructure offered by public >> libraries can contribute to the goals and spirit of the WSIS process. This >> discussion would be truly multi-stakeholder – public libraries are funded >> by the taxpayer and embedded in government infrastructure, they are >> frequented by members of civil society and the entrepreneurs behind SMEs, >> and they frequently partner with the private sector to provide buildings >> and services. A Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries would >> benefit from the participation of representatives from all these groups.* >> *** >> >> ** ** >> >> *Objectives* >> >> ** ** >> >> **· **To place public access to the Internet through public >> libraries on the agenda of the IGF as a cross-cutting issue on a number of >> IGF key themes e.g. Internet Governance and Development; Access and >> Diversity; Security, Openness and Privacy; Youth. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> **· **To ensure that representatives of libraries and their >> users are consulted on issues of Internet Governance within, and outside >> of, the context of the IGF.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> **· **To create a dialogue between library representatives and >> policy makers on the potential of public libraries in major policy areas >> such as social cohesion, education, employment, community development, >> health and agriculture, in pursuit of sustainable funding and favourable >> policies towards libraries.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> **· **To feed in IGF-related activities to existing EIFL and >> IFLA work programmes for ICTD in 2012 and beyond, such as the Beyond Access >> Campaign on libraries and development, European Union activities on >> e-Inclusion and the IFLA World Library and Information Congress (WLIC) in >> Helsinki in August 2012.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *Interested Members?* >> >> ** ** >> >> We are seeking interested organisations and individuals from all >> stakeholder groups to contribute to the work of the Dynamic Coalition. As >> with other coalitions, collaboration can range from following and >> participating in discussions on the DC mailing list, to active >> participation in workshops and events at the main IGF and related >> regional/national IGFs. IFLA and EIFL already plan to participate at the >> EuroDIG, and those interested in this topic may also be interested in the >> forthcoming Beyond Access Campaign (http://www.beyondaccesscampaign.org/) >> which works to promote the role of public libraries in delivering >> development goals. *Please send me (stuart.hamilton at ifla.org) an email >> with your/your organisation’s details if you are interested in being a >> member of this DC.* >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> I apologise for the long email but I hope that this background >> information is useful. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require >> any further information.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Kind regards,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Stuart**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Stuart Hamilton**** >> >> Director of Policy and Advocacy**** >> >> International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA)* >> *** >> >> P.O. Box 95312 >> 2509 CH The Hague >> Netherlands**** >> >> ** ** >> >> 00 31 70 314 0884**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Twitter: @iflaspa**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN > CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL/ > ACADEMIE DES TIC > FACILITATEUR GAID/AFRIQUE Membre > At-Large Member > NCSG Member > > email:baudouin.schombe at gmail.com > baudouin.schombe at ticafrica.net > tél:+243998983491 > skype:b.schombe > wite web:http://webmail.ticafrica.net > blog:http://akimambo.unblog.fr > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From divina.meigs at orange.fr Tue Mar 6 06:49:04 2012 From: divina.meigs at orange.fr (Divina MEIGS) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:49:04 +0100 Subject: [governance] Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great job Stuart! I am sure some people in my network will want to join! Best Divina Divina Frau-Meigs Professor, Sorbonne nouvelle University New books: Divina Frau-Meigs, Socialisation des jeunes et éducation aux médias, Eres, 2011 To order: http://www.editions-eres.com/parutions/education-formation/education-et-soci ete/p2839-socialisation-des-jeunes-et-education-aux-medias.htm and download online chapter on ³news and youth images² by clicking on "Supplément à l'ouvrage" Divina Frau-Meigs, Media Matters in the Cultural Contradictions of the ŒInformation Society¹: towards a human-rights based governance, Council of Europe publishing, 2011 To order : http://book.coe.int/EN/ficheouvrage.php?PAGEID=36&lang=EN&produit_aliasid=26 06 Le 06/03/12 12:37, « Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro » a écrit : > Congratulations Stuart!!! > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Baudouin Schombe > wrote: >> Hello Stuart, >> >> This is a very good information because our structure is facing difficulties >> to implement community access centers with libraries, despite the need felt >> and expressed. >> >> We accept and join to this platform >> >> Baudouin >> >> 2012/3/5 Stuart Hamilton >>> Dear Colleagues >>>   >>> I am pleased to inform you of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in >>> Libraries which has been approved by the IGF Secretariat. The International >>> Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) and Electronic >>> Information for Libraries (EIFL) are the organisers of this coalition and, >>> as is traditional, we are now seeking further interested members who are >>> interested in the topic and wish to be kept informed of the DC¹s activities, >>> discussions and progress. This email gives some background on the DC, and >>> further information is available on request. >>>   >>> Background >>>   >>> At the IGF 2011, Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL) organised a >>> workshop to discuss the findings of a recent study of perceptions of public >>> libraries by policy makers in six countries in Africa. The study revealed >>> that policy makers still think of libraries in terms of printed media, and >>> not as spaces for catalysing internet access and use. Evidence was presented >>> that public libraries that offer innovative and ICT enabled services based >>> on free public access to the Internet can contribute to positive change in >>> their communities and support development goals in vital areas including >>> health, agriculture, employment, education and children and youth at risk. >>> The lively workshop discussion underlined the need for a shared vision and >>> dialogue by policy makers, civil society, private industry and librarians, >>> on how Internet-enabled public libraries can contribute to achieving the >>> Millennium Development Goals. The workshop discussion finished with an >>> agreement between participants to move ahead with the creation of a Dynamic >>> Coalition on Public Access in Libraries to explore these issues further in >>> an IGF setting. >>>   >>> Necessity >>>   >>> While the number of Internet users worldwide now tops two billion, it is >>> important to remember that a significant percentage will not have their own >>> network connection. Instead, hundreds of millions of people utilise the >>> Internet through shared connections, or through providers of public access >>> to the Internet such as libraries. It will not be possible to maintain or >>> increase the number of worldwide users without continued support for public >>> access to the Internet ­ something that is even more important in times of >>> financial austerity when the role of public libraries, and the gateways they >>> offer to free or low-cost Internet access, becomes even more crucial to >>> people¹s opportunities in areas such as employment, education and health. >>>   >>> However, libraries still remain largely overlooked as community development >>> partners. Within the context of the IGF, no arena currently exists for the >>> discussion of Internet governance issues relating to public access >>> intermediaries such as public libraries. Public access to the Internet is >>> tackled in a cross-programme sense, but the sheer reach of libraries ­ there >>> are over one billion registered library users on the planet ­ demands that >>> special attention be paid to the challenges and opportunities faced and >>> offered by these crucial institutions. Everyday libraries face challenges >>> offered by serving disparate user groups ­ children and young people, the >>> unemployed, the elderly, the disabled and many other mainstream and >>> marginalised groups. They may be the only places in communities that allow >>> access to social media or Internet telephony, or provide gateways to >>> e-government services. Public library staff must be aware of and able to >>> serve the needs of users, while at the same time remaining aware of privacy >>> and human rights issues. >>>   >>> The formation of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries >>> creates a space within the IGF to address the Internet governance issues >>> relating to public access, and will enable a discussion to take place about >>> how the existing expertise, networks and infrastructure offered by public >>> libraries can contribute to the goals and spirit of the WSIS process. This >>> discussion would be truly multi-stakeholder ­ public libraries are funded by >>> the taxpayer and embedded in government infrastructure, they are frequented >>> by members of civil society and the entrepreneurs behind SMEs, and they >>> frequently partner with the private sector to provide buildings and >>> services. A Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries would benefit >>> from the participation of representatives from all these groups. >>>   >>> Objectives >>>   >>> ·         To place public access to the Internet through public libraries on >>> the agenda of the IGF as a cross-cutting issue on a number of IGF key themes >>> e.g. Internet Governance and Development; Access and Diversity; Security, >>> Openness and Privacy; Youth. >>> >>>   >>> ·         To ensure that representatives of libraries and their users are >>> consulted on issues of Internet Governance within, and outside of, the >>> context of the IGF. >>> >>>   >>> ·         To create a dialogue between library representatives and policy >>> makers on the potential of public libraries in major policy areas such as >>> social cohesion, education, employment, community development, health and >>> agriculture,  in pursuit of sustainable funding and favourable policies >>> towards libraries. >>> >>>   >>> ·         To feed in IGF-related activities to existing EIFL and IFLA work >>> programmes for ICTD in 2012 and beyond, such as the Beyond Access Campaign >>> on libraries and development, European Union activities on e-Inclusion and >>> the IFLA World Library and Information Congress (WLIC) in Helsinki in August >>> 2012. >>> >>>   >>> Interested Members? >>>   >>> We are seeking interested organisations and individuals from all stakeholder >>> groups to contribute to the work of the Dynamic Coalition. As with other >>> coalitions, collaboration can range from following and participating in >>> discussions on the DC mailing list, to active participation in workshops and >>> events at the main IGF and related regional/national IGFs. IFLA and EIFL >>> already plan to participate at the EuroDIG, and those interested in this >>> topic may also be interested in the forthcoming Beyond Access Campaign >>> (http://www.beyondaccesscampaign.org/) which works to promote the role of >>> public libraries in delivering development goals. Please send me >>> (stuart.hamilton at ifla.org)  an email with your/your organisation¹s details >>> if you are interested in being a member of this DC. >>>   >>>   >>> I apologise for the long email but I hope that this background information >>> is useful. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require any further >>> information. >>>   >>> Kind regards, >>>   >>> Stuart >>>   >>>   >>> Stuart Hamilton >>> Director of Policy and Advocacy >>> International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) >>> P.O. Box 95312 >>> 2509 CH The Hague >>> Netherlands >>>   >>> 00 31 70 314 0884 >>>   >>> Twitter: @iflaspa >>>   >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Tue Mar 6 07:30:12 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:30:12 -0300 Subject: [cir] [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? In-Reply-To: <1C217734-68D0-4791-811A-8F9F63E466F7@frobbit.se> References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AA8A4@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAA9@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <1C217734-68D0-4791-811A-8F9F63E466F7@frobbit.se> Message-ID: <4F560354.3090902@cafonso.ca> Domain names??? --c.a. On 03/06/2012 01:33 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote: > Ok, I must step in here and suggest a few things... > > To be as constructive as possible, and have the ability to move forward in the discussion, I think it is important to keep a few issues apart, although of course to some degree they are related. Let me suggest a way of cutting the cake. > > 1. The ability for entities to trade domain names > > 2. The ability for the result of a trade to be reflected in the whois and other databases a RIR is running > > 3. Relationship between RIR's and legacy address holders > > 4. Relationship between RIR's and non-legacy address holders > > 5. The harmonization or non-harmonization of the policies between the RIR's on topics like the above > > Patrik > > On 6 mar 2012, at 04:53, Milton L Mueller wrote: > >> You can’t have an unfettered market until the framework for transfers is harmonized and globalized across RIRs. >> The issue of legacy holders’ rights needs to be settled. The way for inter-regional transfers needs to be cleared. A strong ASO or process for making global policies, which usually fails in the RIR system, needs to be created. And so on. >> See you at the ASO meeting in CR! >> >> --MM >> >> From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 3:19 PM >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller >> Cc: William Drake; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; Carlos A. Afonso; IGF Members >> Subject: Re: [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? >> >> Hi Milton, >> >> On Monday, March 5, 2012, Milton L Mueller wrote: >>> If they discuss IPv6, they must also discuss the emergence of trading markets for scarce IPv4 addresses, which is actually the only relevant policy issue at the moment and one which actually (unlike 90% of what is now discussed at IGF) something that requires global coordination and governance. >>> >> >> Exactly what global coordination and governance do you mean? >> >> I thought you were a proponent of an unfettered v4 market!? >> >> Rgds, >> >> McTim >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Naturally I'd put myself forward as someone who both knows something about that issue and would offer a refreshing alternative reality-check to what you are likely to get from certain other sources. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of William Drake >>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:31 AM >>> To: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se >>> Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; IGF Members;governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> Subject: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR? >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Tulika >>> >>> >>> >>> There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and questions for the CIR session. Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!), migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants, the government reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their thoughts either way. Since you are not o n the (still active) 2011 MAG I don't know if you can join, but you might try, otherwise I'd be happy to pass along any statements from you as inputs. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best >>> >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY wrote: >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> >>> >>> I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his inputs on ITU initiatives. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tulika Pandey >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >>> >>> Dear people, >>> >>> The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the >>> IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet >>> resources": >>> >>> --- begin doc citation --- >>> >>> 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several >>> commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the >>> institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP >>> addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points. >>> >>> 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues >>> theme, including, inter alia; >>> >>> • Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet; >>> >>> • IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that >>> may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion >>> of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries? >>> >>> • What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names, >>> i.e. IDN.IDN? >>> >>> • Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and >>> IDN gTLDs; >>> >>> • Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues >>> drive or impact policy. >>> >>> --- end doc citation --- >>> >>> In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at, >>> among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take >>> account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above >>> points are far from sufficient. >>> >>> At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU >>> meetings' outcomes. >>> >>> fraternal regards >>> >>> --c.a. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> igf_members mailing list >>> igf_members at intgovforum.org >>> http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tulika Pandey >>> Additional Director >>> Department of Information Technology >>> Room 3089, Electronics Niketan >>> 6 CGO Complex, Ne >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> _______________________________________________ >> igf-cir mailing list >> igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se >> http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Tue Mar 6 08:11:34 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 10:11:34 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval Message-ID: <4F560D06.8060509@cafonso.ca> I was one of the people who suggested we take on the CIR issue for IGF 2012, I see a specific list was created, and I am *not* in it. Will try and subscribe, but I assumed I was there. Unless I am now being moderated :) --c.a. -------- Original Message -------- From: - Tue Mar 6 10:04:07 2012 X-Account-Key: account5 X-UIDL: UID82807-1251545781 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: Delivered-To: ca at cafonso.ca Received: from srv01.frobbit.se (srv01.frobbit.se [85.30.129.39]) by hermes.tiwa.net.br (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 010777E00A8 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:39:45 -0300 (BRT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv01.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E44133D84A6 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at frobbit.se Received: from srv01.frobbit.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv01.frobbit.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I27k7fhPKLee for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from srv01.frobbit.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by srv01.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C34C133D8497 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval From: igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se To: ca at cafonso.ca Message-ID: Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:39:04 +0100 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: X-List-Administrivia: yes Errors-To: igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se Sender: igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se Your mail to 'igf-cir' with the subject Re: [cir] [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? 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If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/confirm/igf-cir/daad63d3cd27676265039637ba6d4d3bd448064a -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From olgacavalli at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 08:14:13 2012 From: olgacavalli at gmail.com (Olga Cavalli) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:14:13 -0800 Subject: [igf_members] [cir] [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? In-Reply-To: <1C217734-68D0-4791-811A-8F9F63E466F7@frobbit.se> References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AA8A4@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAA9@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <1C217734-68D0-4791-811A-8F9F63E466F7@frobbit.se> Message-ID: Hi, Goog suggestion Patrick, I support it. Best and thanks Olga El 5 de marzo de 2012 20:33, Patrik Fältström escribió: > Ok, I must step in here and suggest a few things... > > To be as constructive as possible, and have the ability to move forward in > the discussion, I think it is important to keep a few issues apart, > although of course to some degree they are related. Let me suggest a way of > cutting the cake. > > 1. The ability for entities to trade domain names > > 2. The ability for the result of a trade to be reflected in the whois and > other databases a RIR is running > > 3. Relationship between RIR's and legacy address holders > > 4. Relationship between RIR's and non-legacy address holders > > 5. The harmonization or non-harmonization of the policies between the > RIR's on topics like the above > > Patrik > > On 6 mar 2012, at 04:53, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > You can’t have an unfettered market until the framework for transfers is > harmonized and globalized across RIRs.**** > The issue of legacy holders’ rights needs to be settled. The way for > inter-regional transfers needs to be cleared. A strong ASO or process for > making global policies, which usually fails in the RIR system, needs to be > created. And so on.**** > See you at the ASO meeting in CR!**** > ** ** > --MM**** > ** ** > *From:* McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 3:19 PM > *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller > *Cc:* William Drake; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; Carlos A. Afonso; IGF > Members > *Subject:* Re: [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR?**** > ** ** > Hi Milton, > > On Monday, March 5, 2012, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > If they discuss IPv6, they must also discuss the emergence of trading > markets for scarce IPv4 addresses, which is actually the only relevant > policy issue at the moment and one which actually (unlike 90% of what is > now discussed at IGF) something that requires global coordination and > governance. > > > > Exactly what global coordination and governance do you mean? > > I thought you were a proponent of an unfettered v4 market!? > > Rgds, > > McTim > > > > > > > > > Naturally I'd put myself forward as someone who both knows something > about that issue and would offer a refreshing alternative reality-check to > what you are likely to get from certain other sources. > > > > > > > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto: > governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of William Drake > > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:31 AM > > To: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se > > Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; IGF Members; > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > Subject: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR? > > > > > > > > Hi Tulika > > > > > > > > There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and > questions for the CIR session. Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the > facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being > consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other > geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string > selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we > think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks > have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more > narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!), > migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where > this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on > four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants, the government > reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their > thoughts either way. Since you are not on the (still active) 2011 MAG I > don't know if you can join, but you might try, otherwise I'd be happy to > pass along any statements from you as inputs. > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for > the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his > inputs on ITU initiatives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tulika Pandey > > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > > > > Dear people, > > > > The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the > > IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet > > resources": > > > > --- begin doc citation --- > > > > 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several > > commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the > > institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP > > addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points. > > > > 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues > > theme, including, inter alia; > > > > • Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet; > > > > • IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that > > may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion > > of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries? > > > > • What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names, > > i.e. IDN.IDN? > > > > • Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and > > IDN gTLDs; > > > > • Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues > > drive or impact policy. > > > > --- end doc citation --- > > > > In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at, > > among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take > > account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above > > points are far from sufficient. > > > > At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU > > meetings' outcomes. > > > > fraternal regards > > > > --c.a. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > igf_members mailing list > > igf_members at intgovforum.org > > http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org > > > > > > > > -- > > Tulika Pandey > > Additional Director > > Department of Information Technology > > Room 3089, Electronics Niketan > > 6 CGO Complex, Ne > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route > indicates how we get there." Jon Postel**** > _______________________________________________ > igf-cir mailing list > igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se > http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir > > > > _______________________________________________ > igf_members mailing list > igf_members at intgovforum.org > http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Afonso wrote:>I was one of the people who suggested we take on the CIR issue for IGF>2012, I see a specific list was created, and I am *not* in it.>>Will try and subscribe, but I assumed I was there. Unless I am now being>moderated :)>>--c.a.>>-------- Original Message -------->From: - Tue Mar 6 10:04:07 2012>X-Account-Key: account5>X-UIDL: UID82807-1251545781>X-Mozilla-Status: 0001>X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000>X-Mozilla-Keys:>Return-Path: >Delivered-To: ca at cafonso.ca>Received: from srv01.frobbit.se (srv01.frobbit.se [85.30.129.39]) by>hermes.tiwa.net.br (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 010777E00A8 for>; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:39:45 -0300 (BRT)>Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv01.frobbit.se>(Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E44133D84A6 for ; Tue, 6 Mar>2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET)>X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at frobbit.se>Received: from srv01.frobbit.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost>(srv01.frobbit.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id>I27k7fhPKLee for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET)>Received: from srv01.frobbit.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by>srv01.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C34C133D8497 for>; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET)>MIME-Version: 1.0>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii">Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit>Subject: Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval>From: igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se>To: ca at cafonso.ca>Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:39:04 +0100>Precedence: bulk>X-BeenThere: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14>List-Id: >X-List-Administrivia: yes>Errors-To: igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se>Sender: igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se>>Your mail to 'igf-cir' with the subject>> Re: [cir] [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR?>>Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.>>The reason it is being held:>> Post by non-member to a members-only list>>Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive>notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel>this posting, please visit the following URL:>>>http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/confirm/igf-cir/daad63d3cd27676265039637ba6d4d3bd448064a>>> -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Tue Mar 6 09:04:43 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:04:43 +0000 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20BF055@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Tina > -----Original Message----- > Also, I find it kind of rude to speak about someone else and this type > of rumors without cc'ing the person on the conversations. I would hope > that if the conversation was about me that I would be brought into the > email so that I could at least have my say. I thought he was on this list. Besides, this is a public issue now not a personal conversation with Veni. The documents are out there and pretty much speak for themselves. These are no longer rumors. Keep in mind that we are talking about someone who made a big stink about IGP (a group of academics) getting an (open, publicly documented) $75,000 grant from the Ford Foundation to support its public interest work. That amount of money, which (barely) supported the activities of 6 people, contributed priceless amounts of publications, expertise and capacity building to the IGF and GNSO processes. That amount was almost certainly less than the salary he draws from ICANN and who knows what other consulting gigs he managed to wangle in that position. Think of the level of hypocrisy required to do that. These latest revelations only add icing to the cake. Unfortunately you are recalling the bad old days in which ICANN's well-paid professional staff tended to view civil society and others autonomous actors who actually tried to fulfill the promise of open, multistakeholder policy making as its enemy. I thought ICANN had turned the corner on that. But otherwise your solidarity with a fellow staffer is nice to see. We see where the loyalties lie. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Tue Mar 6 09:10:36 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:10:36 +0000 Subject: [igf_members] [cir] [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? In-Reply-To: References: <4F4A3ABE.3090208@cafonso.ca> <2DF45003-F753-4A8C-87BF-F8A806C33FB8@uzh.ch> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AA8A4@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAA9@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <1C217734-68D0-4791-811A-8F9F63E466F7@frobbit.se> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20BF074@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Yes, Patrick, these are distinct issues - although I hope you mean "trade IP addresses" and not "trade domain names"? (Domain names have been tradeable since 1994 or so) However, I hope by saying "keep [these] issues apart" you mean "keep them distinct." They actually should not be kept apart, they are all related. Obviously, they all have to do with IP address governance and the institutional structure of the RIRs, IANA, and US govt. With those caveats in mind, I support your itemization of the issues (subject to correction of #1 to say "IP addresses") It is a very good list. --MM From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 8:14 AM To: Patrik Fältström Cc: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; McTim; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; IGF Members Subject: Re: [igf_members] [cir] [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR? Hi, Goog suggestion Patrick, I support it. Best and thanks Olga El 5 de marzo de 2012 20:33, Patrik Fältström > escribió: Ok, I must step in here and suggest a few things... To be as constructive as possible, and have the ability to move forward in the discussion, I think it is important to keep a few issues apart, although of course to some degree they are related. Let me suggest a way of cutting the cake. 1. The ability for entities to trade domain names 2. The ability for the result of a trade to be reflected in the whois and other databases a RIR is running 3. Relationship between RIR's and legacy address holders 4. Relationship between RIR's and non-legacy address holders 5. The harmonization or non-harmonization of the policies between the RIR's on topics like the above Patrik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:41:58 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 19:41:58 +0500 Subject: [governance] Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries In-Reply-To: <54A34818249DE34CB1697E94F0553F3701AF36A8@mfp01.IFLA.lan> References: <54A34818249DE34CB1697E94F0553F3701AF36A8@mfp01.IFLA.lan> Message-ID: Hi Stuart, First, a congratulations. Secondly some suggestions to this important DC. DC's are an important component that have witnessed high and low tides in the IGF process and require a great deal of concentrated efforts, fueling and keeping its spirit alive! One way is to keep members from all stakeholder groups involved because that is what actually makes the DC dynamic :o) and legitimate. The second most important thing I have observed is that it should have a number of people sharing the ownership from each participating group so that there is always someone involved. You may also want to propose well planned and concrete workshops or meetings when the workshop proposal call comes out so that the DC can both share its work and promote its outreach. I wish the DC best of luck and success! Best Fouad On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Stuart Hamilton wrote: > Dear Colleagues > > > > I am pleased to inform you of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in > Libraries which has been approved by the IGF Secretariat. The International > Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) and Electronic > Information for Libraries (EIFL) are the organisers of this coalition and, > as is traditional, we are now seeking further interested members who are > interested in the topic and wish to be kept informed of the DC’s activities, > discussions and progress. This email gives some background on the DC, and > further information is available on request. > > > > Background > > > > At the IGF 2011, Electronic Information for Libraries (EIFL) organised a > workshop to discuss the findings of a recent study of perceptions of public > libraries by policy makers in six countries in Africa. The study revealed > that policy makers still think of libraries in terms of printed media, and > not as spaces for catalysing internet access and use. Evidence was presented > that public libraries that offer innovative and ICT enabled services based > on free public access to the Internet can contribute to positive change in > their communities and support development goals in vital areas including > health, agriculture, employment, education and children and youth at risk. > The lively workshop discussion underlined the need for a shared vision and > dialogue by policy makers, civil society, private industry and librarians, > on how Internet-enabled public libraries can contribute to achieving the > Millennium Development Goals. The workshop discussion finished with an > agreement between participants to move ahead with the creation of a Dynamic > Coalition on Public Access in Libraries to explore these issues further in > an IGF setting. > > > > Necessity > > > > While the number of Internet users worldwide now tops two billion, it is > important to remember that a significant percentage will not have their own > network connection. Instead, hundreds of millions of people utilise the > Internet through shared connections, or through providers of public access > to the Internet such as libraries. It will not be possible to maintain or > increase the number of worldwide users without continued support for public > access to the Internet – something that is even more important in times of > financial austerity when the role of public libraries, and the gateways they > offer to free or low-cost Internet access, becomes even more crucial to > people’s opportunities in areas such as employment, education and health. > > > > However, libraries still remain largely overlooked as community development > partners. Within the context of the IGF, no arena currently exists for the > discussion of Internet governance issues relating to public access > intermediaries such as public libraries. Public access to the Internet is > tackled in a cross-programme sense, but the sheer reach of libraries – there > are over one billion registered library users on the planet – demands that > special attention be paid to the challenges and opportunities faced and > offered by these crucial institutions. Everyday libraries face challenges > offered by serving disparate user groups – children and young people, the > unemployed, the elderly, the disabled and many other mainstream and > marginalised groups. They may be the only places in communities that allow > access to social media or Internet telephony, or provide gateways to > e-government services. Public library staff must be aware of and able to > serve the needs of users, while at the same time remaining aware of privacy > and human rights issues. > > > > The formation of a new Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries > creates a space within the IGF to address the Internet governance issues > relating to public access, and will enable a discussion to take place about > how the existing expertise, networks and infrastructure offered by public > libraries can contribute to the goals and spirit of the WSIS process. This > discussion would be truly multi-stakeholder – public libraries are funded by > the taxpayer and embedded in government infrastructure, they are frequented > by members of civil society and the entrepreneurs behind SMEs, and they > frequently partner with the private sector to provide buildings and > services. A Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries would benefit > from the participation of representatives from all these groups. > > > > Objectives > > > > ·         To place public access to the Internet through public libraries on > the agenda of the IGF as a cross-cutting issue on a number of IGF key themes > e.g. Internet Governance and Development; Access and Diversity; Security, > Openness and Privacy; Youth. > > > > ·         To ensure that representatives of libraries and their users are > consulted on issues of Internet Governance within, and outside of, the > context of the IGF. > > > > ·         To create a dialogue between library representatives and policy > makers on the potential of public libraries in major policy areas such as > social cohesion, education, employment, community development, health and > agriculture,  in pursuit of sustainable funding and favourable policies > towards libraries. > > > > ·         To feed in IGF-related activities to existing EIFL and IFLA work > programmes for ICTD in 2012 and beyond, such as the Beyond Access Campaign > on libraries and development, European Union activities on e-Inclusion and > the IFLA World Library and Information Congress (WLIC) in Helsinki in August > 2012. > > > > Interested Members? > > > > We are seeking interested organisations and individuals from all stakeholder > groups to contribute to the work of the Dynamic Coalition. As with other > coalitions, collaboration can range from following and participating in > discussions on the DC mailing list, to active participation in workshops and > events at the main IGF and related regional/national IGFs. IFLA and EIFL > already plan to participate at the EuroDIG, and those interested in this > topic may also be interested in the forthcoming Beyond Access Campaign > (http://www.beyondaccesscampaign.org/) which works to promote the role of > public libraries in delivering development goals. Please send me > (stuart.hamilton at ifla.org)  an email with your/your organisation’s details > if you are interested in being a member of this DC. > > > > > > I apologise for the long email but I hope that this background information > is useful. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require any further > information. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Stuart > > > > > > Stuart Hamilton > > Director of Policy and Advocacy > > International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) > > P.O. Box 95312 > 2509 CH The Hague > Netherlands > > > > 00 31 70 314 0884 > > > > Twitter: @iflaspa > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:55:05 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 19:55:05 +0500 Subject: [governance] Host Country's attention to IGF participant Visas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Siva, It might be good to remind the new MAG members from our group when they sit in the rotated MAG meeting in May 2012 to take this up. It might also be good to do a background research on the exact process for the visa so that they can take that information to the meeting. During the IGF Kenya, there was also a designated person looking after the visa issue. They arranged a long list of people that had requested visa on arrival. Most of the people I know took the visa facility before departure to be on the safe side. I availed on arrival in Nairobi opportunity though it did require being sent to another immigration section after waiting for a longtime in the original que, stand outside a room after being designated ;o) as a "Pakistani Traveller" for nearly an hour while the officials tried to find the notification from their Interior Ministry but that was just me and my colleague travelling from Pakistan. It finally did go through. During IGF Vilnius, I am not sure how the process was run but the EU process is almost the same amongst the Schengen States except for Italy that requires some kind of a departure security fee and registration of return to get back the security. Anyone that already had a Schengen Visa from any country could travel to Vilnius. For IGF Egypt, the host country notified all its Embassies and Missions around the world to offer quicker processing. I too availed this and it was indeed quicker than the last application I had made a year ago. On the other hand, visa and entry requirements cannot be the same I guess, it has to do with diplomatic relations and other international treaties and blah blah. However, efforts can be made if the host country people are requested to pay more attention to the visa needs of developing country participants. -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Sivasubramanian M wrote: > Dear Roland > > Good to hear this about India :) > > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Roland Perry > wrote: >> >> at 00:03:30 on Fri, 2 Mar 2012, Sivasubramanian M >> writes >> >>> I hope that the IGF Host Countries could designate someone like Sylvia >>> Moya and pay special attention to the visa issues of the participants >> >> >> Such a person was available, and did good work ahead of the IGF in >> Hyderabad. >> -- >> Roland Perry >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Tue Mar 6 10:29:18 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:29:18 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <1331042044.99672.yint-ygo-j2me@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1331042044.99672.yint-ygo-j2me@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F562D4E.8070208@cafonso.ca> Hi Imran, I was not subscribed. Problem solved, thx! frt rgds --c.a. On 03/06/2012 10:54 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: > > Hi Carlos, > Have you created a new discussion thread on mailing list? > Or > You were trying to post reply to existing thread. > Thanks > Imran > ------------------------------On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 6:11 PM PKT Carlos A. Afonso wrote:>I was one of the people who suggested we take on the CIR issue for IGF>2012, I see a specific list was created, and I am *not* in it.>>Will try and subscribe, but I assumed I was there. Unless I am now being>moderated :)>>--c.a.>>-------- Original Message -------->From: - Tue Mar 6 10:04:07 2012>X-Account-Key: account5>X-UIDL: UID82807-1251545781>X-Mozilla-Status: 0001>X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000>X-Mozilla-Keys:>Return-Path: >Delivered-To: ca at cafonso.ca>Received: from srv01.frobbit.se (srv01.frobbit.se [85.30.129.39]) by>hermes.tiwa.net.br (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 010777E00A8 for>; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:39:45 -0300 (BRT)>Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv01.frobbit.se>(Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E44133D84A6 for ; Tue, 6 Mar>2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET)>X-Virus-Scanned: > amavisd-new at frobbit.se>Received: from srv01.frobbit.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost>(srv01.frobbit.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id>I27k7fhPKLee for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET)>Received: from srv01.frobbit.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by>srv01.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C34C133D8497 for>; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:39:06 +0100 (CET)>MIME-Version: 1.0>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii">Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit>Subject: Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval>From: igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se>To: ca at cafonso.ca>Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:39:04 +0100>Precedence: bulk>X-BeenThere: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14>List-Id: >X-List-Administrivia: yes>Errors-To: igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se>Sender: > igf-cir-bounces at lists.frobbit.se>>Your mail to 'igf-cir' with the subject>> Re: [cir] [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR?>>Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.>>The reason it is being held:>> Post by non-member to a members-only list>>Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive>notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel>this posting, please visit the following URL:>>>http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/confirm/igf-cir/daad63d3cd27676265039637ba6d4d3bd448064a>>> > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Tue Mar 6 12:28:54 2012 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 18:28:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <132745831.214843.1331054934974.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m16> Well said, Milton +1 Jean-Louis Fullsack > Message du 06/03/12 06:04 > De : "Milton L Mueller" > A : "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" > Copie à : > Objet : RE: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list for > > many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire > > telecommunications oligarch". > > [Milton L Mueller] > > Not sure what your point is, McTim. True, he is not a billionaire telecom oligarch, as we can conclude from his need for an ICANN salary, consulting contracts and various forms of sucking up to whoever happens to hold power, in Bulgaria as in ICANN. > > But it's an open list, and his presence on it proves nothing. Any number of people, with motives fair, foul, or in-between, are free to join this list and keep an eye on civil society deliberations. Veni's presence fits perfectly with the pattern of the networking opportunist; playing both side of the fence; keeping watch; selling information; and dipping into civil society discourse only as necessary to fend off any attacks or potential disruptions to the system he exploits so well. > > --MM > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vanda at uol.com.br Tue Mar 6 14:25:07 2012 From: vanda at uol.com.br (Vanda UOL) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 16:25:07 -0300 Subject: RES: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <00f301ccfbce$d9acff90$8d06feb0$@uol.com.br> Thanks for your anticipation Tina. I was eagle to jump to complain about this kind of rumors around this relevant list. Let´s keep it more focused on the issues that are relevant for the governance itself. All the best, Vanda Scartezini Acesse: http://nomcom.icann.org e candidate-se! Access: http://nomcom.icann.org and apply! Polo Consultores Associados IT Trend Alameda Santos 1470 – conj. 1407 01418-903 São Paulo,SP, Brasil Tel + 5511 3266.6253 Mob + 55118181.1464 Dissemine esta idéia: Digite o dominio ao inves do telefone. Domain dialing   www.siter.com   -----Mensagem original----- De: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] Em nome de Tina Dam Enviada em: terça-feira, 6 de março de 2012 02:28 Para: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; McTim Cc: Milton L Mueller Assunto: Re: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor I don't see anything in this story at all. Also, please note that Veni did provide a comment to the article on domainincite. So really, unless anybody has any proof of anything bad having happened (which I don't see) then I would suggest the topic is useless. Also, I find it kind of rude to speak about someone else and this type of rumors without cc'ing the person on the conversations. I would hope that if the conversation was about me that I would be brought into the email so that I could at least have my say. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:23 PM, McTim wrote: > On 3/6/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list >>> for many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire >>> telecommunications oligarch". >> >> [Milton L Mueller] >> >> Not sure what your point is, McTim. True, he is not a billionaire >> telecom oligarch > > that was my point! > > > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From aizu at anr.org Wed Mar 7 03:34:52 2012 From: aizu at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:34:52 +0900 Subject: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: <132745831.214843.1331054934974.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m16> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132745831.214843.1331054934974.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m16> Message-ID: Hi, for your reference: Mr. Veni Markovski is not subscribed to the current IGC mailing list. He left in 2008, as you can see from the archive of our former mailing list hosted by CPSR: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2008-01/msg00050.html Hope it helps, izumi ---------------- From: Veni Markovski To: governance at lists.cpsr.org Subject: [governance] goodbye! Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:31:25 -0500 I am leaving this mailing list as of today. It has become a place where people come with opinions, which often are not constructive, but critical for the sake of criticism. I feel I would be more productive and will contribute at other relevant mailing lists and places, where people discuss ideas in a friendly, constructive, and positive way. I wish you all (yes, all) good time in 2008, and beyond. Best, Veni ---------------- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 03:55:43 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:55:43 +0200 Subject: RES: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: <00f301ccfbce$d9acff90$8d06feb0$@uol.com.br> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <00f301ccfbce$d9acff90$8d06feb0$@uol.com.br> Message-ID: <4F57228F.9080406@gmail.com> Unfortunately, I never know what this (focus) means. On the one hand, it is simply a process issue - stick to the agenda. On the other, it is stifling interrogation of public issues and the public role of people in these processes. There might be a tinge of ad hominem in this, but that is just how it goes in informal discussions - the issue relates to principles and how we operate. Surely this is quite important. Unless of course importance/civic engagement is judged by other measures like closeness to power or the will to preserve the status quo. So this is simultaneously about Veni, but also not about him - as this is an issue that will endure. What this does provide is an insight into how civil society is often an ugly place where powerful players (like ICANN whose legitimacy at the most generous is questionable) enter and influence issues in their own interest, often in the guise of being "reasonable", "focussed", "pragmatic" which as a/(one) Third Worldist is far too often code words for shutting up about the "acceptably unsayable". As long as reason is being used, these issues should be interrogated. Of course since this is a "public" list, there is a "right" or opportunity to be heard, but what this indicates is that civil society views can be "bought and paid for" which would mean that public interests can be marginalised or sidelined. Now this is not to say that private interests (whether of the powerful or otherwise) and public interests cannot coincide, it is just not necessarily so - eg that ICANN can do no good (it can and has improved governance, etc), but it does mean that public interests proponents have more reason to sceptical of a confluence of interests which ought to be subject to greater interpretation. And there needs to be much more toleration of dissent as well as diversity (it is often painful to read the interactions with Parminder and others, to be frank - but things are a lot better since the good ol' days of Bolton and Bush). The ticket, for me, to participate in civil society is reason. We cooperate based on some universal conceptions that hopefully allows us to come sort of consensus. We talk in universals and abstractions so that issues can be moved collectively. But these abstractions are subject to paradiastole, parochial interpretations, manipulation by dominant interests, etc, etc. So Debates like this allow us not only to be instrumentalist but focus on being self-reflective, at least up to a point. What is important for me at a general level is that we can no longer take lightly the disproportionate power wielded by powerful actors who make common cause with civil society players, common cause may be more contingent than many would prefer. Simply because powerful players are effective does not in any way mean that they or their actions are more legitimate. riaz On 2012/03/06 09:25 PM, Vanda UOL wrote: > Thanks for your anticipation Tina. I was eagle to jump to complain about > this kind of rumors around this relevant list. Let´s keep it more focused > on the issues that are relevant for the governance itself. > All the best, > > > Vanda Scartezini > Acesse: http://nomcom.icann.org e candidate-se! > Access: http://nomcom.icann.org and apply! > Polo Consultores Associados > IT Trend > Alameda Santos 1470 – conj. 1407 > 01418-903 São Paulo,SP, Brasil > Tel + 5511 3266.6253 > Mob + 55118181.1464 > Dissemine esta idéia: > Digite o dominio ao inves do telefone. > Domain dialing > www.siter.com > > > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] Em nome de Tina Dam > Enviada em: terça-feira, 6 de março de 2012 02:28 > Para: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; McTim > Cc: Milton L Mueller > Assunto: Re: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor > > I don't see anything in this story at all. Also, please note that Veni did > provide a comment to the article on domainincite. So really, unless anybody > has any proof of anything bad having happened (which I don't see) then I > would suggest the topic is useless. > > Also, I find it kind of rude to speak about someone else and this type of > rumors without cc'ing the person on the conversations. I would hope that if > the conversation was about me that I would be brought into the email so that > I could at least have my say. > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:23 PM, McTim wrote: >> On 3/6/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list >>>> for many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire >>>> telecommunications oligarch". >>> [Milton L Mueller] >>> >>> Not sure what your point is, McTim. True, he is not a billionaire >>> telecom oligarch >> that was my point! >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 04:09:48 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:09:48 +0200 Subject: [governance] US Lawmaker Opens up ACTA to Online Comments Message-ID: <4F5725DC.8090203@gmail.com> Business Center Mar 6, 2012 10:10 pm US Lawmaker Opens up ACTA to Online Comments By Grant Gross, IDG News A U.S lawmaker has posted the controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) online and is asking the public to comment and make changes to the copyright enforcement treaty. Representative Darrell Issa, a California Republican, posted ACTA on his Keepthewebopen.com site Tuesday. Even though the U.S. and seven other countries signed the agreement in October, the public needs to be included in the debate as President Barack Obama's administration begins to implement ACTA, Issa said. Issa compared ACTA to the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect IP Act (PIPA), two controversial bills that prompted widespread online protests in late 2011 and early this year. "ACTA represents as great a threat to an open Internet as SOPA and PIPA and was drafted with even less transparency and input from digital citizens," Issa said in a statement. "This agreement was negotiated in secret and many of its vague provisions would clearly increase economic uncertainty, while imposing onerous new regulations on job creators, Internet service providers, innovators and individual Americans." Like SOPA and PIPA, ACTA is "vague" and could create consequences that reach beyond the drafters' original intent, Issa said. ACTA would require countries that sign it to enforce criminal copyright infringement laws and take steps to prevent counterfeit goods from entering their borders and to take actions against distributors of pirated digital goods. As of early Tuesday afternoon, no one except Issa had commented on the site or suggested changes to ACTA. It's not clear how Issa intends to use any comments or changes suggested. Supporters of ACTA have said the treaty is important to help protect copyright worldwide. The countries signing the agreement "all recognize that strong intellectual property protection is essential to fostering creativity and innovation in their economies, creating good jobs, increasing cultural diversity, promoting technological advances, enhancing the rule of law, and boosting legal trade in products and services protected by copyright and other intellectual property laws," the International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA) said in October. ACTA will help U.S. companies protect their intellectual property, said the Office of U.S. Trade Representative. The agreement will foster "increased leadership in the international fight against counterfeiting and piracy," the agency said in October. But Issa criticized the agreement, saying most negotiations were in secret. The deal appears to violate Congress' authority to make policy affecting U.S. trade and intellectual property law, he added. Grant Gross covers technology and telecom policy in the U.S. government for The IDG News Service. Follow Grant on Twitter at GrantGross. Grant's e-mail address is grant_gross at idg.com. https://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/251387/us_lawmaker_opens_up_acta_to_online_comments.html -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 05:30:29 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:30:29 +0500 Subject: [governance] US Lawmaker Opens up ACTA to Online Comments In-Reply-To: <4F5725DC.8090203@gmail.com> References: <4F5725DC.8090203@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Riaz, Thanks for sharing this. I believe this may be on the too late mark to do anything. Its one thing that wasn't sponsored by one person and signed by a number of nations, it was led with the collaboration of various trade bodies and IPR holders from these countries that lobbied their governments to sign this document that blurs and benefits the usual culprits. So what if the SOPA/PIPA didn't make it through, this is the worse of them and more over its expansive beyond borders of one state to other participating countries. Its hard to believe how so many countries agree blindly to fall prey to just one major group to enforce its slowly evolving practice of making big bucks through taking IPR enforcement and litigation beyond their country's borders to other countries and strangling their businessmen and citizens. A light version of such IPR protection and enforcement can be read under searching the keyword BSA business software alliance where apart from its claims one can read how badly it has hurt certain countries business environment. With this trade agreement, those governments are giving access to even a larger combined force of multiple kinds of BSA's to wade through their territories and slap struggling businesses with a new order of pan-global IPR enforcements. On the current state of this TA, will any public comment be able to alter what has been constructed into a signed treaty already between a number of nations? Would it be possible to retract from what has already been done and posted online? Is this a combined call from all those signing nations to include public comments to help modify this agreement? Interestingly the party attribute language gives fundamental rights under privacy of information to commercial/corporates that receive full confidentiality while getting the right to have even stricter and extensive IPR enforcement implemented beyond this agreement. Check this opportunity to give legal rights of implementing enforcement to anyone under party/parties: "competent authorities includes the appropriate judicial, administrative, or law enforcement authorities under a Party’s law;" I don't see how negotiations carried out in secret benefit anyone else other than the the "parties" that have had this designed in the first place. SAY NO TO ACTA! may only remain a slogan from this point onwards......here comes the Chengaiz Khan of IPR!!! Fooooooooooooooooooooo On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: > Business Center Mar 6, 2012 10:10 pm > US Lawmaker Opens up ACTA to Online Comments > > By Grant Gross, IDG News > > A U.S lawmaker has posted the controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade > Agreement (ACTA) online and is asking the public to comment and make changes > to the copyright enforcement treaty. > > > Representative Darrell Issa, a California Republican, posted ACTA on his > Keepthewebopen.com site Tuesday. Even though the U.S. and seven other > countries signed the agreement in October, the public needs to be included > in the debate as President Barack Obama's administration begins to implement > ACTA, Issa said. > > Issa compared ACTA to the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect IP > Act (PIPA), two controversial bills that prompted widespread online protests > in late 2011 and early this year. > > "ACTA represents as great a threat to an open Internet as SOPA and PIPA and > was drafted with even less transparency and input from digital citizens," > Issa said in a statement. "This agreement was negotiated in secret and many > of its vague provisions would clearly increase economic uncertainty, while > imposing onerous new regulations on job creators, Internet service > providers, innovators and individual Americans." > > Like SOPA and PIPA, ACTA is "vague" and could create consequences that reach > beyond the drafters' original intent, Issa said. > > ACTA would require countries that sign it to enforce criminal copyright > infringement laws and take steps to prevent counterfeit goods from entering > their borders and to take actions against distributors of pirated digital > goods. > > As of early Tuesday afternoon, no one except Issa had commented on the site > or suggested changes to ACTA. It's not clear how Issa intends to use any > comments or changes suggested. > > Supporters of ACTA have said the treaty is important to help protect > copyright worldwide. The countries signing the agreement "all recognize that > strong intellectual property protection is essential to fostering creativity > and innovation in their economies, creating good jobs, increasing cultural > diversity, promoting technological advances, enhancing the rule of law, and > boosting legal trade in products and services protected by copyright and > other intellectual property laws," the International Intellectual Property > Alliance (IIPA) said in October. > > ACTA will help U.S. companies protect their intellectual property, said the > Office of U.S. Trade Representative. The agreement will foster "increased > leadership in the international fight against counterfeiting and piracy," > the agency said in October. > > But Issa criticized the agreement, saying most negotiations were in secret. > The deal appears to violate Congress' authority to make policy affecting > U.S. trade and intellectual property law, he added. > > Grant Gross covers technology and telecom policy in the U.S. government for > The IDG News Service. Follow Grant on Twitter at GrantGross. Grant's e-mail > address is grant_gross at idg.com. > > https://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/251387/us_lawmaker_opens_up_acta_to_online_comments.html > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 05:51:39 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:51:39 +0200 Subject: [governance] US Lawmaker Opens up ACTA to Online Comments In-Reply-To: References: <4F5725DC.8090203@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F573DBB.7020606@gmail.com> Well if the dog can't wag its tail (sopa or pipa) then the tail can wag the dog... so acta will do the job... actually, it was the same with the deregulation of financial services in the 1990s - there was local resistance to undoing Glass Steagull (the seperation of investment from commercial banks - the 1930s law). the US committed at the WTO to undo it, and voila... I think our progressive friends in the rich countries have been struggling against enormous odds in their countries (from a public interest, rather than vested interest pov)... national interest can be rather short term and detrimental in the longer runs... Lets hope they can defeat this, otherwise it will become their next export to poor countries... On 2012/03/07 12:30 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > Hi Riaz, -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Wed Mar 7 06:56:53 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 08:56:53 -0300 Subject: RES: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor In-Reply-To: <00f301ccfbce$d9acff90$8d06feb0$@uol.com.br> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20AAAFA@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <00f301ccfbce$d9acff90$8d06feb0$@uol.com.br> Message-ID: <4F574D05.4010305@cafonso.ca> Rumors, Vanda?? --c.a. On 03/06/2012 04:25 PM, Vanda UOL wrote: > Thanks for your anticipation Tina. I was eagle to jump to complain about > this kind of rumors around this relevant list. Let´s keep it more focused > on the issues that are relevant for the governance itself. > All the best, > > > Vanda Scartezini > Acesse: http://nomcom.icann.org e candidate-se! > Access: http://nomcom.icann.org and apply! > Polo Consultores Associados > IT Trend > Alameda Santos 1470 – conj. 1407 > 01418-903 São Paulo,SP, Brasil > Tel + 5511 3266.6253 > Mob + 55118181.1464 > Dissemine esta idéia: > Digite o dominio ao inves do telefone. > Domain dialing > www.siter.com > > > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] Em nome de Tina Dam > Enviada em: terça-feira, 6 de março de 2012 02:28 > Para: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; McTim > Cc: Milton L Mueller > Assunto: Re: [governance] ICANN staff member and Stratfor > > I don't see anything in this story at all. Also, please note that Veni did > provide a comment to the article on domainincite. So really, unless anybody > has any proof of anything bad having happened (which I don't see) then I > would suggest the topic is useless. > > Also, I find it kind of rude to speak about someone else and this type of > rumors without cc'ing the person on the conversations. I would hope that if > the conversation was about me that I would be brought into the email so that > I could at least have my say. > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:23 PM, McTim wrote: >> On 3/6/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> Might be, if it wasn't ludicrous...Veni was a member of this list >>>> for many years, not a likely activity for a "Bulgarian billionaire >>>> telecommunications oligarch". >>> >>> [Milton L Mueller] >>> >>> Not sure what your point is, McTim. True, he is not a billionaire >>> telecom oligarch >> >> that was my point! >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Wed Mar 7 06:59:05 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 08:59:05 -0300 Subject: [governance] Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: <4F560D06.8060509@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <4F574D89.9030501@cafonso.ca> Grande Louis, here is the ref to the list: igf-cir mailing list igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir fraternal regards --c.a. On 03/06/2012 11:49 PM, Louis Pouzin wrote: > Hi Carlos, > > I'm confused, lost, with these IGC sites. > Where is this IGF-CIR list, and how did you subscribe ? > Thanks, Louis. > - - - > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:11, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > >> I was one of the people who suggested we take on the CIR issue for IGF >> 2012, I see a specific list was created, and I am *not* in it. >> >> Will try and subscribe, but I assumed I was there. Unless I am now being >> moderated :) >> >> --c.a. >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dogwallah at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 11:55:05 2012 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:55:05 +0000 Subject: [governance] Another bone headed regulatory measure Message-ID: http://english.vietnamnet.vn/en/science-technology/19618/stricter-regulations-on-internet-agent-management-make-turnover-down.html Reminds me of the rules about "coffee shops" in Amsterdam! Rgds, McTim -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From william.drake at uzh.ch Wed Mar 7 14:53:44 2012 From: william.drake at uzh.ch (William Drake) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 20:53:44 +0100 Subject: [governance] Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <4F574D89.9030501@cafonso.ca> References: <4F560D06.8060509@cafonso.ca> <4F574D89.9030501@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: Carlos, Louis, The list you refer to was set up last year to plan the CIR main session in Nairobi, so I wouldn't expect much traffic. Without getting into the specifics of what happened in the MAG + working group on this year's CIR session, in the end the topics proposed by CS participants based inter alia on discussions here are on the table for when the process moves forward. This will be reflected in the next iteration of the program paper. Best Bill On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Grande Louis, here is the ref to the list: > > igf-cir mailing list > igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se > http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 03/06/2012 11:49 PM, Louis Pouzin wrote: >> Hi Carlos, >> >> I'm confused, lost, with these IGC sites. >> Where is this IGF-CIR list, and how did you subscribe ? >> Thanks, Louis. >> - - - >> >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:11, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >> >>> I was one of the people who suggested we take on the CIR issue for IGF >>> 2012, I see a specific list was created, and I am *not* in it. >>> >>> Will try and subscribe, but I assumed I was there. Unless I am now being >>> moderated :) >>> >>> --c.a. >>> >>> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Wed Mar 7 15:17:28 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:17:28 -0500 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?op-ed_by_ITU_Secretary_General_Tour?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9?= Message-ID: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> Dr Hamadoun Touré, the secretary general of the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) has an op-ed in today's the Guardian. In case some of you haven't seen this yet, here's a link to the text.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media-network/media-network-blog/2012/mar/06/ict-international-regulations-cybercrime Securing the future benefits of technology International regulations governing ICT need to change to adapt to rapid innovations and counter the threat of cybercrime The Guardian, March 7, 2012 The UN's specialised agency for information and communication technologies (ICTs), the International Telecom Union (ITU), will hold aWorld Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT-12) in December. The aim of the conference is to review the global treaty widely credited for creating the basis of today's connected world, thus the international regulatory framework governing all ICT technologies. The conference comes at a time when technology is having a major impact on economic and social development, and represents a once-in-a-generation opportunity to improve it even further. The treaty under review is known as the International Telecommunication Regulations, or ITRs. It provides governments and industries across the globe with the necessary frameworks for bringing variety and competition to their telecommunications and ICT markets. [snipped...] -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Wed Mar 7 16:23:44 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 18:23:44 -0300 Subject: [governance] Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: <4F560D06.8060509@cafonso.ca> <4F574D89.9030501@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <41CDAFE9-7E55-427B-A3CF-C71A43EA0524@cafonso.ca> Thx, Captain. See you both in Costa Rica? sent from a dumbphone On 07/03/2012, at 16:53, William Drake wrote: > Carlos, Louis, > > The list you refer to was set up last year to plan the CIR main session in Nairobi, so I wouldn't expect much traffic. > > Without getting into the specifics of what happened in the MAG + working group on this year's CIR session, in the end the topics proposed by CS participants based inter alia on discussions here are on the table for when the process moves forward. This will be reflected in the next iteration of the program paper. > > Best > > Bill > > On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > >> Grande Louis, here is the ref to the list: >> >> igf-cir mailing list >> igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se >> http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir >> >> fraternal regards >> >> --c.a. >> >> On 03/06/2012 11:49 PM, Louis Pouzin wrote: >>> Hi Carlos, >>> >>> I'm confused, lost, with these IGC sites. >>> Where is this IGF-CIR list, and how did you subscribe ? >>> Thanks, Louis. >>> - - - >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:11, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >>> >>>> I was one of the people who suggested we take on the CIR issue for IGF >>>> 2012, I see a specific list was created, and I am *not* in it. >>>> >>>> Will try and subscribe, but I assumed I was there. Unless I am now being >>>> moderated :) >>>> >>>> --c.a. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From william.drake at uzh.ch Thu Mar 8 01:16:58 2012 From: william.drake at uzh.ch (William Drake) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 07:16:58 +0100 Subject: [governance] Your message to igf-cir awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <41CDAFE9-7E55-427B-A3CF-C71A43EA0524@cafonso.ca> References: <4F560D06.8060509@cafonso.ca> <4F574D89.9030501@cafonso.ca> <41CDAFE9-7E55-427B-A3CF-C71A43EA0524@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <57824E9D-137F-49CB-967C-EFBAF6EA078D@uzh.ch> I fly tomorrow early On Mar 7, 2012, at 22:23, "Carlos A. Afonso" wrote: > Thx, Captain. See you both in Costa Rica? > > sent from a dumbphone > > On 07/03/2012, at 16:53, William Drake wrote: > >> Carlos, Louis, >> >> The list you refer to was set up last year to plan the CIR main session in Nairobi, so I wouldn't expect much traffic. >> >> Without getting into the specifics of what happened in the MAG + working group on this year's CIR session, in the end the topics proposed by CS participants based inter alia on discussions here are on the table for when the process moves forward. This will be reflected in the next iteration of the program paper. >> >> Best >> >> Bill >> >> On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >> >>> Grande Louis, here is the ref to the list: >>> >>> igf-cir mailing list >>> igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se >>> http://lists.frobbit.se/mailman/listinfo/igf-cir >>> >>> fraternal regards >>> >>> --c.a. >>> >>> On 03/06/2012 11:49 PM, Louis Pouzin wrote: >>>> Hi Carlos, >>>> >>>> I'm confused, lost, with these IGC sites. >>>> Where is this IGF-CIR list, and how did you subscribe ? >>>> Thanks, Louis. >>>> - - - >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:11, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was one of the people who suggested we take on the CIR issue for IGF >>>>> 2012, I see a specific list was created, and I am *not* in it. >>>>> >>>>> Will try and subscribe, but I assumed I was there. Unless I am now being >>>>> moderated :) >>>>> >>>>> --c.a. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 04:18:29 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 01:18:29 -0800 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?op-ed_by_ITU_Secretary_General_To?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ur=E9?= In-Reply-To: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Dr Hamadoun Touré, the secretary general of the International > Telecommunications Union (ITU) has an op-ed in today's the Guardian. > > In case some of you haven't seen this yet, here's a link to the text.. > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media-network/media-network-blog/2012/mar/06/ict-international-regulations-cybercrime > > Securing the future benefits of technology > International regulations governing ICT need to change to adapt to rapid > innovations and counter the threat of cybercrime > If people are interested, we could put together an ad hoc Team of volunteers to look examine the existing Treaty and prepare a review/assessment of it to be put to the IGC and we can then ask the IGC if we want to make submissions. If there is a time to start work on this, then it should be now etc. It is also important that the IGC is present in the meeting in December. > > The Guardian, March 7, 2012 > > > The UN's specialised agency for information and communication technologies > (ICTs), the International Telecom Union (ITU), will hold aWorld Conference > on International Telecommunications (WCIT-12) in December. The aim of the > conference is to review the global treaty widely credited for creating the > basis of today's connected world, thus the international regulatory > framework governing all ICT technologies. > > The conference comes at a time when technology is having a major impact on > economic and social development, and represents a once-in-a-generation > opportunity to improve it even further. > > The treaty under review is known as the International Telecommunication > Regulations, or ITRs. It provides governments and industries across the > globe with the necessary frameworks for bringing variety and competition to > their telecommunications and ICT markets. > > [snipped...] > > > -- > R. Guerra > Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 > Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom > Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 07:42:20 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:42:20 +0500 Subject: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? Message-ID: We need to know who funds these thinktank lobbyists. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Thu Mar 8 08:42:06 2012 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 13:42:06 +0000 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?op-ed_by_ITU_Secretary_General_To?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ur=E9?= In-Reply-To: References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org>, Message-ID: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Hi, I agree it would be good if cs is represented at this upcoming 11-day ITU marathon/ordeal. Assuming things remain the same, there are slow procedures get on national delegations. So it is already late in the game to try to boost cs presence in this latest rewrite of the ITU regs. But likely still possible. My 2 cents of advice: whomever from cs that has time/interest, and can manouver to get in the game and on your own official national delegation, now is time to do so. And, whichever cs orgs have stomach and budget to deal direct with ITU, likewise now is time to let ITU know that e.g., more cs participation-friendly rules of procedure in the next gen regs, are expected. Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro [salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:18 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Robert Guerra Subject: Re: [governance] op-ed by ITU Secretary General Touré On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Robert Guerra > wrote: Dr Hamadoun Touré, the secretary general of the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) has an op-ed in today's the Guardian. In case some of you haven't seen this yet, here's a link to the text.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media-network/media-network-blog/2012/mar/06/ict-international-regulations-cybercrime Securing the future benefits of technology International regulations governing ICT need to change to adapt to rapid innovations and counter the threat of cybercrime If people are interested, we could put together an ad hoc Team of volunteers to look examine the existing Treaty and prepare a review/assessment of it to be put to the IGC and we can then ask the IGC if we want to make submissions. If there is a time to start work on this, then it should be now etc. It is also important that the IGC is present in the meeting in December. The Guardian, March 7, 2012 The UN's specialised agency for information and communication technologies (ICTs), the International Telecom Union (ITU), will hold aWorld Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT-12) in December. The aim of the conference is to review the global treaty widely credited for creating the basis of today's connected world, thus the international regulatory framework governing all ICT technologies. The conference comes at a time when technology is having a major impact on economic and social development, and represents a once-in-a-generation opportunity to improve it even further. The treaty under review is known as the International Telecommunication Regulations, or ITRs. It provides governments and industries across the globe with the necessary frameworks for bringing variety and competition to their telecommunications and ICT markets. [snipped...] -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Thu Mar 8 09:35:19 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 20:05:19 +0530 Subject: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F58C3A7.4070800@itforchange.net> Fouad, Thanks for raising this very important issue. From the quoted article http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists "This is plutocracy, pure and simple. The battle for democracy is now a straight fight against the billionaires and corporations reshaping politics to suit their interests. The first task of all democrats must be to demand that any group, of any complexion, seeking to effect political change should reveal its funders." It is our view, among civil society groups that I work with, that no one should be considered civil society who doesnt reveal all funding sources, in a completely transparent (preferably pro-active) manner, and is not ready to answer all questions in this regard. What has been obvious to most for decades and centuries of devleopment of democratic thinking, seems to be completely lost on a lot of the so called IG civil society. There is this very dangerous talk of 'multi stakeholder funding' against 'public funding' for policy bodies (what to speak of just public interest civil society bodies). Since the civil society obviously has no funds to spare, this is just a poorly-disguised call for corporate funding for policy bodies. And this talk has flowered on this very list, and we have kept quite, nay mostly been supportive. This is nothing other than the most powerful - plutocrats, referred in the above quote - seeking to control the reins of policy -making and -shaping bodies through control over their finances. And I have seen with horror how easily civil society have fallen prey to this game, and openly supported such moves. Even in the Working Group on Improvements to the IGF (WGIIGF) this game played out, as one of the biggest contestations. Whether there should be any global public funding at all for the IGF become a big sticking point. And the final resolution was; no, IGF should entirely be supported by private funds, whether of corporates, or by voluntary donations by countries who have obvious partisan interests vis a vis global policy regimes. And what a victory for civil society - that evil UN was able to be kept at bay. We can celebrate! So, who are we, of the IG world, to be surprised or feel wounded to read such news items like this one - that special interests have been bank rolling the so called civil society bodies. We have gone much further; we have advocated and ensured that even policy bodies are exclusively financed by private funds, so that what you cant do by your legitimate representation in a policy developing system, you can do through control over its funds. A brave new post-democratic world indeed. And we have been less than silent accomplices in building it. One should have heard the long and strident arguments of our much valued partners of the mustistakeholder brigade - you know who - against greater transparency in IGF funding. However, these things look to IG civil society as minor issues relative to that big demon - UN taking over the Internet. (In the end though, and I give the credit largely to two government participants - one from the North and another from the South - one of the very very few real accomplishments of the report of the WG on IGF Improvements is that it calls for full disclosure - on both sides, incomes and expenditure - regarding IGF finances. ) Significantly, since an opposition to any UN funds for the IGF was sweet-coated by the 'UN taking over the Internet' bogey, an alternative innovative way of direct public funding of the IGF through routing of the fees or taxes collected by the ICANN + system from the users was proposed, but it was equally cynically shot down. So you see, the problem is not only with UN's 'tainted' public funds - as some want to see it - it is against any funding which is automatic and which doesnt give the rich and the powerful discretionary levers of control over the global IG policy system. Quite unhappily, there wasnt even any civil society support for this proposal. In the circumstances, going back to the original article about corporate money and politics, I think IG civil society has a lot to think about its own conduct and outlook in this matter. parminder On Thursday 08 March 2012 06:12 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > We need to know who funds these thinktank lobbyists. > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, the challenge is not only convincing the relevant ministry to add a CS member, but also finding ways to find the funding. How much funding would be required. Well, let me try to make a best guess .... Let me make the following assumptions: - Economy Flight from North America to Dubai - 15 days accommodation (1 arrival day + 14 day conference) - Expenses (per diem, etc) - Use the US State Department Per diem rates for accommodation & per diem Costs: - Flight: Approx 1,300 USD (Using average from expedia.com) - Accommodation: 360 (Max accommodation rate) x 15 = 5,400 - Per Diem: 143 (Max rate) x 15 = 2145 Total: 1300+5400+2145 = 8845 . For the sake of rounding, let's call it an even 9,000 USD. Though this # likely underestimates the cost as other items such as Taxi's and phone costs aren't included What that means is that for CS to be added to a national level delegation we need convince one's national level delegation or another donor to make 9,000 USD PER CS delegate for just the WCIT meeting in Dec. There are several preparatory meetings taking place ahead of the Dubai meeting. Thus we'd need to be there as well. Say there are 2 WCIT prep meetings - well, that increases the CS required budget from 9K to 27,000 USD! 27,000 USD is quite a sum. The larger question is strategic value - should we focus our time, energy and limited financial resources to fund CS participation at WCIT or instead convince national level delegations to enhance CS participation more broadly by supporting the CS IGF trust fund ? That's something no doubt worth discussing on here... regards Robert -- R. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 10:03:48 2012 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:03:48 -0400 Subject: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 In-Reply-To: <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org> References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org> Message-ID: Is this the same in Internet Governance? See Fouad Parminder thread > 27,000 USD is quite a sum. Chicken feed to a billionaire. Deirdre On 8 March 2012 10:50, Robert Guerra wrote: > Lee, > > I agree that it would be good to have CS at least try to get on a national > delegation. However, the challenge is not only convincing the relevant > ministry to add a CS member, but also finding ways to find the funding. > > How much funding would be required. Well, let me try to make a best guess > .... > > Let me make the following assumptions: > > - Economy Flight from North America to Dubai > - 15 days accommodation (1 arrival day + 14 day conference) > - Expenses (per diem, etc) > - Use the US State Department Per diem rates for accommodation & per diem > < > http://aoprals.state.gov/web920/per_diem_action.asp?MenuHide=1&CountryCode=1172 > > > > Costs: > - Flight: Approx 1,300 USD (Using average from expedia.com) > - Accommodation: 360 (Max accommodation rate) x 15 = 5,400 > - Per Diem: 143 (Max rate) x 15 = 2145 > > Total: 1300+5400+2145 = 8845 . For the sake of rounding, let's call it an > even 9,000 USD. > > Though this # likely underestimates the cost as other items such as > Taxi's and phone costs aren't included > > What that means is that for CS to be added to a national level delegation > we need convince one's national level delegation or another donor to make > 9,000 USD PER CS delegate for just the WCIT meeting in Dec. There are > several preparatory meetings taking place ahead of the Dubai meeting. Thus > we'd need to be there as well. Say there are 2 WCIT prep meetings - well, > that increases the CS required budget from 9K to 27,000 USD! > > 27,000 USD is quite a sum. The larger question is strategic value - > should we focus our time, energy and limited financial resources to fund CS > participation at WCIT or instead convince national level delegations to > enhance CS participation more broadly by supporting the CS IGF trust fund ? > That's something no doubt worth discussing on here... > > > regards > > Robert > > > > > -- > R. Guerra > Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 > Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom > Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Thu Mar 8 10:34:05 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:34:05 -0500 Subject: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 In-Reply-To: References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <8B5C0E9C-1D2C-4855-AF2C-B2A6C30A0E4D@privaterra.org> Deirdre, Let's stay focused on IG issues please. While the caucus can't do much about electoral politics in the US, we can - if strategic - make an impact on the development of Internet Governance.. Let me comment on your earlier post below... On 2012-03-08, at 10:03 AM, Deirdre Williams wrote: > > > Is this the same in Internet Governance? See Fouad Parminder thread > 27,000 USD is quite a sum. > Chicken feed to a billionaire. The Citizen's United US Supreme court decision allows for individuals (which includes companies) to give unrestricted amounts to candidates running for office. No doubt it will cause all sorts of influence that is quite undesirable and not transparent at all. We could spend hours, in fact likely months discussing the US electoral process - however that would take precious time, energy and effort away from the objectives outlined in the Internet Governance Caucus Charter, that being focusing on advancing Civil Society's role and Internet Governance issues. I for one prefer to stay focused, and will try to do so to the best of my ability. Others may see things differently, and I do respect the choice of veering off the scope outlined in the caucus charter. regards Robert Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 10:50:57 2012 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:50:57 -0400 Subject: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 In-Reply-To: <8B5C0E9C-1D2C-4855-AF2C-B2A6C30A0E4D@privaterra.org> References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org> <8B5C0E9C-1D2C-4855-AF2C-B2A6C30A0E4D@privaterra.org> Message-ID: Dear Robert, A good lesson to me to avoid being cryptic. I was in fact agreeing with you. I think we need to be ingenious about finding ways and means with resources that we have in abundance. Money is not one of them. I disagree that this 'problem' is limited to US electoral process. It crops up all over the place. How the Internet is governed is one of those places. Deirdre On 8 March 2012 11:34, Robert Guerra wrote: > Deirdre, > > Let's stay focused on IG issues please. > > While the caucus can't do much about electoral politics in the US, we can > - if strategic - make an impact on the development of Internet Governance.. > > Let me comment on your earlier post below... > > On 2012-03-08, at 10:03 AM, Deirdre Williams wrote: > > > > > > > Is this the same in Internet Governance? See Fouad Parminder thread > > 27,000 USD is quite a sum. > > Chicken feed to a billionaire. > > > The Citizen's United US Supreme court decision allows for individuals > (which includes companies) to give unrestricted amounts to candidates > running for office. No doubt it will cause all sorts of influence that is > quite undesirable and not transparent at all. > > We could spend hours, in fact likely months discussing the US electoral > process - however that would take precious time, energy and effort away > from the objectives outlined in the Internet Governance Caucus Charter, > that being focusing on advancing Civil Society's role and Internet > Governance issues. > > I for one prefer to stay focused, and will try to do so to the best of my > ability. Others may see things differently, and I do respect the choice of > veering off the scope outlined in the caucus charter. > > > regards > > Robert > > > Ref: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Conf. on Digital Ecosystems Technologies - Complex Environment Engineering (IEEE DEST-CEE 2012) Message-ID: <011101ccfd47$041b5ff0$0c521fd0$@unimi.it> [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message] **** Deadline Approaching: Submission of Full Papers 15 March 2012 **** *********************************************************************** 6th IEEE International Conference on Digital Ecosystems Technologies - Complex Environment Engineering IEEE DEST-CEE 2012 18-20 June 2012 - Campione d'Italia, Italy http://sesar.dti.unimi.it/DEST2012/ *********************************************************************** Call for Papers In our Digital Age, strong development of digital network infrastructure has dominated our service delivery, economic growth and life style. Future applications in domains such as Healthcare/Health-Science, Energy, Social Networks and Logistics demand infrastructures that are more agile than those operated currently. Digital Ecosystems aim to capture the notion of such agile and adaptive infrastructures. Digital Ecosystem Technologies encompass the advent of the whole spectrum of Internet technologies, starting from the hyperlinked web towards pervasive internet applications, from Peer-to-Peer systems to Grid middleware, followed by Cloud Services, Agent technologies, Sensor Networks and Cyber- Physical systems, which has become a major theme for business process digitalization. Digital Ecosystems inherit concepts of open, loosely coupled, demand-driven, domain clustered, agent-based self-organized collaborative environments where species/agents form a temporary coalition (or longer term) for a specific purpose or goals. Within this environment everyone is proactive and responsive for their own benefit or profit. The essence of digital ecosystems is the adoption of ecological system concepts, and creating value by making connections through collective intelligence and promoting collaboration instead of unbridled competition and ICT-based catalyst effects in a number of domains, to produce networked enriched communities and solutions. Today's global challenges such as in Energy and Sustainability, Healthcare and an Aging Society, Public Safety and Security, or Democracy and Participation/Involvement confront us with the most Complex Environments. Traditional ICT-support has often increased complexity, thus making the challenges even more severe. The Digital Ecosystem perspective aims to address the twofold challenge of Complex Environment Engineering and Digital Ecosystem Technology mapping. The complexity of both the challenges and the technological solutions has to be acknowledged. IEEE DEST-CEE is jointly conducted with IFIP 2.6 - 2.12 SIMPDA (International Symposium on Data Driven Process Discovery and Analysis, http://sesar.dti.unimi.it/SIMPDA2012). This acknowledges the key role of business process data modeling, representation and privacy-aware analysis for Digital Ecosystems, and vice versa. Further, the Innovation Adoption Forum underpins the importance of public-private partnership as the key for delivering sustainable solutions for our Complex Living and Business Environment û and thus our Digital Ecosystem Habitat. Our Keynotes, Panels and Sessions will tackle the multifaceted challenges and solutions from various stakeholders’ perspectives. This call for papers and additional information about the conference can be found at http://sesar.dti.unimi.it/DEST2012/. For information regarding the conference you may contact: fulvio.frati at unimi.it. IMPORTANT DATES Submission of Full Papers: 15 March 2012 Notification of Acceptance: 19 April 2012 Submission of Camera Ready Papers: 21 May 2012 Conference: 18 - 20 June 2012 CONFERENCE GENERAL CHAIRS - Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Achim P. Karduck, Furtwangen University, Germany TECHNICAL PROGRAMME CHAIRS - Elizabeth Chang, DEBII, Curtin University, Perth, Australia - Mark Hedges, Centre for e-Research, Kings College, UK PUBLICITY CHAIR - Matthew Smith, Leibniz University Hannover, Germany REGIONAL AREA CHAIRS - Moataz A. Ahmed, KFUPM, Saudi Arabia - Paolo Ceravolo, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Ralph Deters, University of Saskatchewan, Canada - Christian Guetl, Graz University of Technology, Austria - Farookh Hussain, Curtin University, Perth, Australia - Jie Liu, Fudan University, Shanghai, China INNOVATION ADOPTION CHAIRS - Achim P. Karduck, Furtwangen University, Germany - O. Sinan Tumer, SAP Research, US JOURNAL SPECIAL ISSUES CHAIR - Farookh Hussain, Curtin University, Perth, Australia WEB & PUBLICATION CHAIR - Fulvio Frati, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy CHAIR OF ADVISORY BOARD - Tharam Dillon, Chair IEEE TC-II INTERN. ADVISORY BOARD - Michael Brodie, Verizon, USA - Armando Colombo, Schneider Electric, Germany - Leopoldo G Franquelo, President IEEE IES - Kouhei Ohnishi, Ex. President IEEE-IES - Wolfgang Prinz, Fraunhofer FIT, Germany - Csaba A. Szabo, Budapest University, Hungary - Sirin Teriknay, Ozyegin University, Turkey - O.Sinan Tumer, SAP Research, Germany - Bogdan Wilamowski, Editor-in-Chief for IEEE TIE - Xinghuo Yu, IEEE IES AdCOM PAPER SUBMISSION Papers are to be original works, up to 6 pages in length, and will be peer reviewed by at least 3 independent reviewers from the international Programme Committee. Papers submitted for this conference must be formatted to fit on A4 paper in a two-column format. The author should use a word processor or desktop publishing system to produce a "camera ready" paper on A4 paper. The exact formatting instructions can be found on the website. Before submitting your paper submission, please ensure that it has been converted to a PDF using IEEE’s requirements. The papers submission system for IEEE DEST-CEE 2012 can be found at https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=ieeedestcee2012. CONFERENCE VENUE All conference activities will take place in the municipal casino of Campione d'Italia. From Milan Campione can be reached by car following the A9 motorway MILANOCHIASSO and then the A2 motorway CHIASSO- LUGANO, exit at Bissone Melide. A bus leaves from Garibaldi square (the square before the Garibaldi railway station) Dep. time from Milano 15.00/20:30- Dep. from Campione 19:00/00:30/3.00. From Malpensa Airport Campione can be reached by car or shuttle in approximately 50 minutes. >From Lugano Campione can be reached by boat, bus and car and although you have to cross the Swiss-Italian border line to reach it there are no formal border controls. Campione is approximately 20 minutes from Lugano by road, and 15 minutes by boat across the lake. A ferry service runs regularly from Lugano to Campione throughout the day. Bus timetable are available on the SBB web site. More info on: www.campioneitalia.com CONFERENCE TRACKS * Area I: Foundations and Technologies Area I deals with the basic ICT foundations of digital ecosystems, including large-scale, virtualized infrastructures, hosting ecosystem services and processes. Ecosystems require a novel approach to ICT technology development, closely related to the engineering of complex systems. Area I includes two one-day tracks that feature contributions on how the technological support for digital ecosystems is emerging. Track A: Foundations of Digital Ecosystems and Complex Environment Engineering Track co-Chairs: - Pierpaolo Andriani, Euromed Management School, France - Pierfranco Ferronato, Soluta.net, Italy - Gabriele Gianini, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Track A addresses the foundations of Digital Ecosystems in the context of Complex Environments Engineering. A digital ecosystem is defined as an open, loosely coupled, demand-driven, domain clustered, agent -based self organized environment where species/agents form short and long-term coalitions for specific purposes or goals, and everyone is proactive and responsive for its own benefit or profit. Interactions among peers in Digital Ecosystems may involve, besides unbridled competition, new modalities of pre-competitive and collaborative partnerships . Digital ecosystems are characterized by complexity – demanding radically new solutions. This track focuses on the theoretical foundations, that can be drawn upon form various disciplines. The focus of Track A is on, but is not limited to: - Models for Digital Ecosystems and Complex Environments - Economic and Value Models for Digital Ecosystems - Techniques for Coordination, Availability and Resource Allocation - Ontologies for service and data semantics Track B: Technology Infrastructure for Digital Ecosystems Track co-Chairs: - Lionel Brunie, INSA-Lyon, France - Harald Kosch, University of Passau, Germany The ICT infrastructure underlying digital ecosystem must ensure the basis for digital ecosystems' economic operation. Track B will include contributions on how the ICT infrastructure can enable Digital Ecosystems by providing the required connectivity, mobility, availability, and security solutions. Typically, members of an ecosystem employ technological agents to procure products and access services on their behalf in order to achieve collective and individual goals. The ICT infrastructure needs to provide solution ensuring that the ecosystem's resources are available as and when they are legitimately needed, protecting confidential information from loss and avoiding corruption of information. The focus of Track B is on, but not limited to: - Knowledge representation and management in Digital Ecosystems - Secure Information Exchange in Digital Ecosystems - Models and Technologies for Human-Space Computing - Processes and Services in Cyber-Physical Systems - Collaborative Systems * Area II: Sustainable Domain Solutions Area II presents contributions in various application domains, organized in half-day tracks. Just as the development of Smart Grids required the convergence of energy and information system infrastructures, radically new approaches to the design, convergence, and adoption of systems are required for future solutions in a variety of domains. Radically increasing the involvement of stakeholders with complex environments is one potential route for providing solutions in these domains, for example in energy systems or healthcare. In the longer term, approaches for enabling collaborative ecosystems may lead to high-impact solutions for today´s most pressing challenges. The “Sustainable Domain Solutions” tracks will identify domain requirements, research challenges and systems solutions with respect to the concept of Digital Ecosystems and Complex Environment Engineering, as outlined in the background and objectives of IEEE DEST 2012: Digital Ecosystems inherit concepts of open, loosely coupled, demand-driven, domain clustered, agent-based, self-organized, collaborative environments, where species/ agents form a temporary (or longer-term) coalition for a specific purpose or goal. Within this context, the tracks will focus on, but not be limited to, the following issues: - Scalability and availability, with respect to large infrastructure platforms - Evolvability, with respect to the introduction and life-cycle of service platforms - Usability, with respect to human factors and user benefits Track C: Cyber-Physical Energy Systems Track co-Chairs: - Neil Brown, Institute of Energy and Sustainable Development (IESD), De Montfort University, UK - Rupert Gammon, Institute of Energy and Sustainable Development (IESD) , De Montfort University, UK - Peter Palensky, Austrian Institute of Technology, Vienna, Austria - Martin Anda, Environmental Technology Center , Murdoch University, Australia Cyber-Physical Energy Systems address the merging of IT and energy infrastructures, with the aim of achieving more energy-efficient and sustainable lifestyles. The coordination of the various stakeholders involved in the future energy market raises many challenges, for example the data-intensive and complex event processing required. An example is provided by research driven by the need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, increase the use of new and renewable energy technologies, and provide a high quality, comfortable, safe and efficient built environment. Such applied research aims to exploit the potential of information technology to boost energy efficiency and minimize our environmental footprint, while preserving or improving the quality of life for every individual in every nation. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for cyber-physical energy systems, and indicate/demonstrate potential solutions. Track D: Healthcare and Sustainable Living Track co-Chairs: - Rémi Bastide, ISIS-University Centre for Health Informatics, Carmaux, France - Matthew Smith, Leibniz University Hannover, Germany eHealth, Telemedicine, and Bio-System Research Systems all describe approaches to improving the capacity of healthcare systems through fundamental and applied research, technology, and services. Researchers and companies are, for example, exploring the use of sensor devices, human-system interfaces, and medical record systems in order to provide radically new solutions for helping patients. These advances require structural changes as well as technological development. Societies are facing an increase in chronic degenerative diseases that require monitoring and long-term patient management, the growing desire of patients to be treated in a family environment in order to protect their social ties, and, finally, a need to reduce costs. These factors necessitate a new strategic orientation in services offered by healthcare systems, in particular the transfer of a large portion of care activities from the hospital to the patient’s residence. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for healthcare and sustainable living, and indicate/demonstrate potential solutions. Track E: Digital Humanities Track co-Chairs: - Tobias Blanke, King’s College London, UK - Stuart Dunn, King’s College London, UK The digital humanities form a bridge between the traditional practices of scholarship and the opportunities afforded by advances in technology, enabling researchers to reconsider old problems in new ways, and providing the methods, tools and frameworks to support them in developing new modes of enquiry. On the one hand, the humanities are faced with ever greater volumes of complex data and digital resources, for example from the increasing mass digitisation of historical records. On the other hand, research in the humanities is moving away from the model of individual scholars to one in which international and inter-disciplinary teams of researchers collaborate actively within a diverse ecosystem of digital resources, tools, and services, not forgetting of course the users themselves – the rapid evolution of Web technologies continues to privilege the human as a key agent, both as provider and consumer of content, and this in turn is investing humanities scholarship with an increasing awareness of vast new audiences and potential participants. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for digital humanities, and indicate/demonstrate potential solutions. Track F: Collaborative Platforms for Sustainable Logistics and Transportation Track co-Chairs: - Frederick Benaben, Ecole de Mines d'Albi-Carmaux, France - Amadou Sienou, Abamix Research, Germany - Hervé Pingaud, University JF Champollion, France Across application domains, organizations and enterprises (such as Small-Medium Enterprises) gain their strengths from flexible market orientation, agile value chains and cluster -based innovation capacity. The changing global (business) environment challenges all organizations to aim for agility and performance-driven management through process focused thinking. These challenges reach far beyond the business world, affecting for example the formation and coordination of emergency teams in case of environmental disasters. For the effective collaboration of all the partners in such scenarios, the agility aspect of the Digital Ecosystem paradigm demands explicit support for risk management and collaboration. Agility implies the continuous improvement and reengineering of the business processes involved. However, the outcome of such process management efforts is risky because of the lack of operational information about future processes, so risk management is a key component. Similarly, collaboration support is required to allow real-time information sharing and interaction of the parties involved, for example in case of deviation from the agreed-upon target process. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for collaboration in the domain of logistics, including risk-management scenarios (e.g. after the occurrence of an environmental disaster), and that indicate/ demonstrate potential solutions. Track G: Platforms for Social and Community Involvement/Engagement Track co-Chairs: - Francois Grey, Tsinghua University, China - Margaret Tan, Singapore Internet Research Center, Singapore The internet, together with other advances in ICT such as the increased take-up of smart mobile devices, is enabling a new era of community engagement. In science, the application of volunteer computing is providing examples of engagement in which members of the public can contribute to scientific advances of social importance. Examples include modelling climate change (ClimatePrediction.net), developing drugs for AIDS (FightAids at home), or simulating the spread of malaria (MalariaControl.net). The participatory ecosystem is becoming still wider with projects such as GalaxyZoo, in which volunteers contribute their “thinking” rather than their computers, and global initiatives to broaden take-up such as Africa at home and Asia at home. On the social side, we are seeing substantial evidence of the role that digital technologies, especially the “Social Web” such as blogs, Twitter, Facebook, and video sharing sites, can play in community activism. The Social Web is in some quarters becoming the mainstream method for connecting people, sharing information, and influencing developments, particularly in areas where traditional modes of communication operate less effectively. This is reflected in a number of recent geopolitical events that have been referred to as “Twitter Revolutions”, and these technologies have played an undeniable role in such events as the “Arab Spring” and humanitarian crises such as the 2010 Haiti earthquake. The use of these technologies has however led to debates concerning the extent to which such digital technologies genuinely promote more democratic community action, and the extent to which they can be exploited by the powerful to reinforce their positions. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for social involvement/engagement, and indicate/demonstrate potential solutions. Track H: Cyber-Physical Ecosystems in Robotics and Telematics Track Co-Chairs: - Michaela Huhn, Clausthal University of Technology, Germany - Jörg P. Müller, Clausthal University of Technology, Germany - Bernardo Wagner, Leibniz University Hannover, Germany Cyber-Physical Systems are a synergetic composition of computational control and physical actors. They aim to achieve an enhanced functionality that relies on both, the interaction with and coordination in between the physical and the virtual components. Cyber-Physical Ecosystems are built as agile networks of cooperating, independently developed subsystems. Cyber-Physical Ecosystems are emerging at the interface between robotics, sensor networks, systems of systems engineering, and multi-agent technologies. Research on theories, architectures, models, methods, and tools are required to form a uniform and integrated perspective to systems engineering for this class of complex systems. They need to be validated and verified in key applications such as micro grids, multi-robot systems, or autonomous traffic. The domain focus of this track will be accordingly on robotics and telematics, but is open to adjacent domains as well. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long-term challenges -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 11:31:54 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 08:31:54 -0800 Subject: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? In-Reply-To: <4F58C3A7.4070800@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <4D108927AF3A4BC08AA8554C8CF25A15@UserVAIO> (to repeat an argument I made a while ago but which wasn't commented upon at the time... Perhaps an element of theory might be useful here... We talk rather blithely of a "multi-stakeholder forum"... and rather emphasize the "multi" at the expense of the "stakeholder" element but if we shift the emphasis, then the question is what exactly to we mean by "stake" There are several definitions but the most relevant one via http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stake is 3 a : something that is staked for gain or loss b : the prize in a contest c : an interest or share in an undertaking or enterprise or according to Wikipedia "Equity stake , a share or interest in a business or investment "Stake" in this context would thus appear to be a synonym for "interest" and so the question is what or whose "interests" are being represented in the multi-stakeholder forum? It is clear I think, what the private sector interests are; and the government has it's own interests as the "owner" of a number of assets on behalf of its citizens and as the primary arbiter (regulator?) of various contractual (commercial and dare I, say social) obligations. Equally, the techical community has an "interest" in (on behalf of its clients--mostly private sector) to make sure that the techical underpinnings are facilitated and not undermined. (I have some questions/reservations about the particular (independent?) stake/interests of academia in this regard but I'll leave discussion to another time.. And that leaves "civil society"... representing the "stake" "interests" of everyone else in the smooth functioning etc.etc. of the Internet. The cost of participation by the private sector folks is infinitesimally small compared to the value of the actual and potential "interests" that are being discussed, and similarly for governments, and for the technical community who in this analysis (and for financial purposes) should probably be seen as a sub-set of the private sector. Which again leaves CS as the odd person out. They represent the broadest set of "interests" but have immediate access to the most limited set of financial resources to support their participation. Crowd financing would appear to be the appropriate path but for a variety of practical (and I would argue theoretical) reasons that isn't going to work--the issues are not sufficiently focussed or immediate, identification with the "interest" involved is too diffused, there is an overall lack of organizing intermediary structures in this area for CS and so on. If this is beginning to sound a bit like various transition points in the evolution of various historical representative democracies then so be it... One of the first and most significant innovations in the creation of those democracies was the determination to provide financial support on behalf of the public to those participating in Parliamentary forums. Prior to that to participate in Parliament required that you either have private wealth or a significant financial backer... the move to direct payments to Parliamentarians was precisely to allow those without such backing to participate and was a major breakthrough in the rise of popular responsible democracy. Without "public" support the IGF and whatever significance it might have will be truncated and in the end will be discredited as a forum simply for "stakeholdering" by "stake"holders with the "interests" of the many being (financially) excluded in favour of the "interests" of the few. Since ICANN now is the major imposer and collector of "tax" on the Internet through its control of the naming process they should be obliged to provide the resources through which a truly multi-stakeholder forum can be conducted. Mike -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 6:35 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? Fouad, Thanks for raising this very important issue. From the quoted article http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobb yists "This is plutocracy, pure and simple. The battle for democracy is now a straight fight against the billionaires and corporations reshaping politics to suit their interests. The first task of all democrats must be to demand that any group, of any complexion, seeking to effect political change should reveal its funders." It is our view, among civil society groups that I work with, that no one should be considered civil society who doesnt reveal all funding sources, in a completely transparent (preferably pro-active) manner, and is not ready to answer all questions in this regard. What has been obvious to most for decades and centuries of devleopment of democratic thinking, seems to be completely lost on a lot of the so called IG civil society. There is this very dangerous talk of 'multi stakeholder funding' against 'public funding' for policy bodies (what to speak of just public interest civil society bodies). Since the civil society obviously has no funds to spare, this is just a poorly-disguised call for corporate funding for policy bodies. And this talk has flowered on this very list, and we have kept quite, nay mostly been supportive. This is nothing other than the most powerful - plutocrats, referred in the above quote - seeking to control the reins of policy -making and -shaping bodies through control over their finances. And I have seen with horror how easily civil society have fallen prey to this game, and openly supported such moves. Even in the Working Group on Improvements to the IGF (WGIIGF) this game played out, as one of the biggest contestations. Whether there should be any global public funding at all for the IGF become a big sticking point. And the final resolution was; no, IGF should entirely be supported by private funds, whether of corporates, or by voluntary donations by countries who have obvious partisan interests vis a vis global policy regimes. And what a victory for civil society - that evil UN was able to be kept at bay. We can celebrate! So, who are we, of the IG world, to be surprised or feel wounded to read such news items like this one - that special interests have been bank rolling the so called civil society bodies. We have gone much further; we have advocated and ensured that even policy bodies are exclusively financed by private funds, so that what you cant do by your legitimate representation in a policy developing system, you can do through control over its funds. A brave new post-democratic world indeed. And we have been less than silent accomplices in building it. One should have heard the long and strident arguments of our much valued partners of the mustistakeholder brigade - you know who - against greater transparency in IGF funding. However, these things look to IG civil society as minor issues relative to that big demon - UN taking over the Internet. (In the end though, and I give the credit largely to two government participants - one from the North and another from the South - one of the very very few real accomplishments of the report of the WG on IGF Improvements is that it calls for full disclosure - on both sides, incomes and expenditure - regarding IGF finances. ) Significantly, since an opposition to any UN funds for the IGF was sweet-coated by the 'UN taking over the Internet' bogey, an alternative innovative way of direct public funding of the IGF through routing of the fees or taxes collected by the ICANN + system from the users was proposed, but it was equally cynically shot down. So you see, the problem is not only with UN's 'tainted' public funds - as some want to see it - it is against any funding which is automatic and which doesnt give the rich and the powerful discretionary levers of control over the global IG policy system. Quite unhappily, there wasnt even any civil society support for this proposal. In the circumstances, going back to the original article about corporate money and politics, I think IG civil society has a lot to think about its own conduct and outlook in this matter. parminder On Thursday 08 March 2012 06:12 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: We need to know who funds these thinktank lobbyists. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobb yists -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 14:05:48 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:05:48 -0800 Subject: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? Message-ID: I have been privately (and gently) chided by a colleague for using the term "tax" below and singling out ICANN as the possible source of "public" support for the IGF (they are already subsidizing this and that...). So for folks of that persuasion let me change the recommendation to talking about a "user fee" or "administrative charge" (for the use of the Internet??) and let us entertain nominations for (other?) "public" bodies towards which the obligation (rather than request for benefaction) could be re-directed -- ISOC was suggested, PIR as another possibility but... M -----Original Message----- From: michael gurstein [mailto:recent:gurstein at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:32 AM To: 'governance at lists.igcaucus.org'; 'parminder' Subject: RE: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? (to repeat an argument I made a while ago but which wasn't commented upon at the time... Perhaps an element of theory might be useful here... We talk rather blithely of a "multi-stakeholder forum"... and rather emphasize the "multi" at the expense of the "stakeholder" element but if we shift the emphasis, then the question is what exactly to we mean by "stake" There are several definitions but the most relevant one via http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stake is 3 a : something that is staked for gain or loss b : the prize in a contest c : an interest or share in an undertaking or enterprise or according to Wikipedia "Equity stake , a share or interest in a business or investment "Stake" in this context would thus appear to be a synonym for "interest" and so the question is what or whose "interests" are being represented in the multi-stakeholder forum? It is clear I think, what the private sector interests are; and the government has it's own interests as the "owner" of a number of assets on behalf of its citizens and as the primary arbiter (regulator?) of various contractual (commercial and dare I, say social) obligations. Equally, the techical community has an "interest" in (on behalf of its clients--mostly private sector) to make sure that the techical underpinnings are facilitated and not undermined. (I have some questions/reservations about the particular (independent?) stake/interests of academia in this regard but I'll leave discussion to another time.. And that leaves "civil society"... representing the "stake" "interests" of everyone else in the smooth functioning etc.etc. of the Internet. The cost of participation by the private sector folks is infinitesimally small compared to the value of the actual and potential "interests" that are being discussed, and similarly for governments, and for the technical community who in this analysis (and for financial purposes) should probably be seen as a sub-set of the private sector. Which again leaves CS as the odd person out. They represent the broadest set of "interests" but have immediate access to the most limited set of financial resources to support their participation. Crowd financing would appear to be the appropriate path but for a variety of practical (and I would argue theoretical) reasons that isn't going to work--the issues are not sufficiently focussed or immediate, identification with the "interest" involved is too diffused, there is an overall lack of organizing intermediary structures in this area for CS and so on. If this is beginning to sound a bit like various transition points in the evolution of various historical representative democracies then so be it... One of the first and most significant innovations in the creation of those democracies was the determination to provide financial support on behalf of the public to those participating in Parliamentary forums. Prior to that to participate in Parliament required that you either have private wealth or a significant financial backer... the move to direct payments to Parliamentarians was precisely to allow those without such backing to participate and was a major breakthrough in the rise of popular responsible democracy. Without "public" support the IGF and whatever significance it might have will be truncated and in the end will be discredited as a forum simply for "stakeholdering" by "stake"holders with the "interests" of the many being (financially) excluded in favour of the "interests" of the few. Since ICANN now is the major imposer and collector of "tax" on the Internet through its control of the naming process they should be obliged to provide the resources through which a truly multi-stakeholder forum can be conducted. Mike -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 6:35 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? Fouad, Thanks for raising this very important issue. From the quoted article http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobb yists "This is plutocracy, pure and simple. The battle for democracy is now a straight fight against the billionaires and corporations reshaping politics to suit their interests. The first task of all democrats must be to demand that any group, of any complexion, seeking to effect political change should reveal its funders." It is our view, among civil society groups that I work with, that no one should be considered civil society who doesnt reveal all funding sources, in a completely transparent (preferably pro-active) manner, and is not ready to answer all questions in this regard. What has been obvious to most for decades and centuries of devleopment of democratic thinking, seems to be completely lost on a lot of the so called IG civil society. There is this very dangerous talk of 'multi stakeholder funding' against 'public funding' for policy bodies (what to speak of just public interest civil society bodies). Since the civil society obviously has no funds to spare, this is just a poorly-disguised call for corporate funding for policy bodies. And this talk has flowered on this very list, and we have kept quite, nay mostly been supportive. This is nothing other than the most powerful - plutocrats, referred in the above quote - seeking to control the reins of policy -making and -shaping bodies through control over their finances. And I have seen with horror how easily civil society have fallen prey to this game, and openly supported such moves. Even in the Working Group on Improvements to the IGF (WGIIGF) this game played out, as one of the biggest contestations. Whether there should be any global public funding at all for the IGF become a big sticking point. And the final resolution was; no, IGF should entirely be supported by private funds, whether of corporates, or by voluntary donations by countries who have obvious partisan interests vis a vis global policy regimes. And what a victory for civil society - that evil UN was able to be kept at bay. We can celebrate! So, who are we, of the IG world, to be surprised or feel wounded to read such news items like this one - that special interests have been bank rolling the so called civil society bodies. We have gone much further; we have advocated and ensured that even policy bodies are exclusively financed by private funds, so that what you cant do by your legitimate representation in a policy developing system, you can do through control over its funds. A brave new post-democratic world indeed. And we have been less than silent accomplices in building it. One should have heard the long and strident arguments of our much valued partners of the mustistakeholder brigade - you know who - against greater transparency in IGF funding. However, these things look to IG civil society as minor issues relative to that big demon - UN taking over the Internet. (In the end though, and I give the credit largely to two government participants - one from the North and another from the South - one of the very very few real accomplishments of the report of the WG on IGF Improvements is that it calls for full disclosure - on both sides, incomes and expenditure - regarding IGF finances. ) Significantly, since an opposition to any UN funds for the IGF was sweet-coated by the 'UN taking over the Internet' bogey, an alternative innovative way of direct public funding of the IGF through routing of the fees or taxes collected by the ICANN + system from the users was proposed, but it was equally cynically shot down. So you see, the problem is not only with UN's 'tainted' public funds - as some want to see it - it is against any funding which is automatic and which doesnt give the rich and the powerful discretionary levers of control over the global IG policy system. Quite unhappily, there wasnt even any civil society support for this proposal. In the circumstances, going back to the original article about corporate money and politics, I think IG civil society has a lot to think about its own conduct and outlook in this matter. parminder On Thursday 08 March 2012 06:12 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: We need to know who funds these thinktank lobbyists. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobb yists -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Thu Mar 8 16:14:35 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 06:14:35 +0900 Subject: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? In-Reply-To: <4F58C3A7.4070800@itforchange.net> References: <4F58C3A7.4070800@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Kind of ironic as this issue was pretty much what Veni was commenting on, and making accusations about, when he left the list a few years ago. FWIW: I am a part-time consultant for the IGF secretariat, means I might be working for them in Baku. I won't know for sure until a month or so before (this is the same each year), but as a result I tend not to comment on substance of the IGF. Though couldn't resist during the last open consultation :-) Adam On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:35 PM, parminder wrote: > Fouad, > > Thanks for raising this very important issue. From the quoted article > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists > > "This is plutocracy, pure and simple. The battle for democracy is now a > straight fight against the billionaires and corporations reshaping politics > to suit their interests. The first task of all democrats must be to demand > that any group, of any complexion, seeking to effect political change > should reveal its funders." > > It is our view, among civil society groups that I work with, that no one > should be considered civil society who doesnt reveal all funding sources, in > a completely transparent (preferably pro-active) manner, and is not ready to > answer all questions in this regard. > > What has been obvious to most for decades and centuries of devleopment of > democratic thinking, seems to be completely lost on a lot of the so called > IG civil society. There is this very dangerous talk of 'multi stakeholder > funding' against 'public funding' for policy bodies (what to speak of just > public interest civil society bodies). Since the civil society obviously has > no funds to spare, this is just a poorly-disguised call for corporate > funding for policy bodies. And this talk has flowered on this very list, and > we have kept quite, nay mostly been supportive. > > This is nothing other than the most powerful - plutocrats, referred in the > above quote - seeking to control the reins of policy -making and -shaping > bodies through control over their finances. And I have seen with horror how > easily civil society have fallen prey to this game, and openly supported > such moves. > > Even in the Working Group on Improvements to the IGF (WGIIGF) this game > played out, as one of the biggest contestations. Whether there should be any > global public funding at all for the IGF become a big sticking point. And > the final resolution was; no, IGF should entirely be supported by private > funds, whether of corporates, or by voluntary donations by countries who > have obvious partisan interests vis a vis global policy regimes. And what a > victory for civil society - that evil UN was able to be kept at bay. We can > celebrate! > > So, who are we, of the IG world, to be surprised or feel wounded to read > such news items like this one - that special interests have been bank > rolling the so called civil society bodies. We have gone much further; we > have advocated and ensured that even policy bodies are exclusively financed > by private funds, so that what you cant do by your legitimate representation > in a policy developing system, you can do through control over its funds. A > brave new post-democratic world indeed. And we have been less than silent > accomplices in building it. > > One should have heard the long and strident arguments of our much valued > partners of the mustistakeholder brigade - you know who - against greater > transparency in IGF funding. However, these things look to IG civil society > as minor issues relative to that big demon - UN taking over the Internet. > (In the end though, and I give the credit largely to two government > participants - one from the North and another from the South - one of the > very very few real accomplishments of the report of the WG on IGF > Improvements is that it calls for full disclosure - on both sides, incomes > and expenditure - regarding IGF finances. ) > > Significantly, since an opposition to any UN funds for the IGF was > sweet-coated by the 'UN taking over the Internet' bogey, an alternative > innovative way of direct public funding of the IGF through routing of the > fees or taxes collected by the ICANN + system from the users was proposed, > but it was equally cynically shot down. So you see, the problem is not only > with UN's 'tainted' public funds - as some want to see it - it is against > any funding which is automatic and which doesnt give the rich and the > powerful discretionary levers of control over the global IG policy system. > > Quite unhappily, there wasnt even any civil society support for this > proposal. > > In the circumstances, going back to the original article about corporate > money and politics, I think IG civil society has a lot to think about its > own conduct and outlook in this matter. > > parminder > > On Thursday 08 March 2012 06:12 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > > We need to know who funds these thinktank lobbyists. > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Thu Mar 8 16:41:13 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:41:13 +0000 Subject: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 In-Reply-To: <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org> References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org>, <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20C92A0@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Very constructive contribution, Robert. Good to raise the strategic allocation of our time, energy and money as an issue. From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:51 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 Lee, I agree that it would be good to have CS at least try to get on a national delegation. However, the challenge is not only convincing the relevant ministry to add a CS member, but also finding ways to find the funding. How much funding would be required. Well, let me try to make a best guess .... Let me make the following assumptions: - Economy Flight from North America to Dubai - 15 days accommodation (1 arrival day + 14 day conference) - Expenses (per diem, etc) - Use the US State Department Per diem rates for accommodation & per diem Costs: - Flight: Approx 1,300 USD (Using average from expedia.com) - Accommodation: 360 (Max accommodation rate) x 15 = 5,400 - Per Diem: 143 (Max rate) x 15 = 2145 Total: 1300+5400+2145 = 8845 . For the sake of rounding, let's call it an even 9,000 USD. Though this # likely underestimates the cost as other items such as Taxi's and phone costs aren't included What that means is that for CS to be added to a national level delegation we need convince one's national level delegation or another donor to make 9,000 USD PER CS delegate for just the WCIT meeting in Dec. There are several preparatory meetings taking place ahead of the Dubai meeting. Thus we'd need to be there as well. Say there are 2 WCIT prep meetings - well, that increases the CS required budget from 9K to 27,000 USD! 27,000 USD is quite a sum. The larger question is strategic value - should we focus our time, energy and limited financial resources to fund CS participation at WCIT or instead convince national level delegations to enhance CS participation more broadly by supporting the CS IGF trust fund ? That's something no doubt worth discussing on here... regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Thu Mar 8 17:32:41 2012 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 22:32:41 +0000 Subject: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20C92A0@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org>, <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org>,<855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20C92A0@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C5A4@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Hi, And thanks. Costs in time and effort are substantial I agree. But note I didn't suggest we -all - focus on the ITU, or this particular meeting. I did suggest it might be tactically wise if -someone(s) were to manouver themselves onto a national delegation, or 2 or 3. Especially if they can get others to pay their costs. While of course staying true to cs and perhaps taking input from IGC to the meeting. Academics serving as advisors to national delegations are not uncommon for example. How their costs are covered, varies. (I personally am not volunteering.) If not possible in this case for IGC to identify allies who may be there anyway, then we essentially rely on business as usual. Meaning we hope some governments, business interests, and members of the technical community, mainly, will speak up if something egregious from a CS view is gaining momentum in these real-time treaty/reg revision meetings. Usually that happens so it's not like I am that concerned; but. Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Milton L Mueller [mueller at syr.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:41 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; 'Robert Guerra' Subject: RE: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 Very constructive contribution, Robert. Good to raise the strategic allocation of our time, energy and money as an issue. From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:51 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 Lee, I agree that it would be good to have CS at least try to get on a national delegation. However, the challenge is not only convincing the relevant ministry to add a CS member, but also finding ways to find the funding. How much funding would be required. Well, let me try to make a best guess .... Let me make the following assumptions: - Economy Flight from North America to Dubai - 15 days accommodation (1 arrival day + 14 day conference) - Expenses (per diem, etc) - Use the US State Department Per diem rates for accommodation & per diem Costs: - Flight: Approx 1,300 USD (Using average from expedia.com) - Accommodation: 360 (Max accommodation rate) x 15 = 5,400 - Per Diem: 143 (Max rate) x 15 = 2145 Total: 1300+5400+2145 = 8845 . For the sake of rounding, let's call it an even 9,000 USD. Though this # likely underestimates the cost as other items such as Taxi's and phone costs aren't included What that means is that for CS to be added to a national level delegation we need convince one's national level delegation or another donor to make 9,000 USD PER CS delegate for just the WCIT meeting in Dec. There are several preparatory meetings taking place ahead of the Dubai meeting. Thus we'd need to be there as well. Say there are 2 WCIT prep meetings - well, that increases the CS required budget from 9K to 27,000 USD! 27,000 USD is quite a sum. The larger question is strategic value - should we focus our time, energy and limited financial resources to fund CS participation at WCIT or instead convince national level delegations to enhance CS participation more broadly by supporting the CS IGF trust fund ? That's something no doubt worth discussing on here... regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Thu Mar 8 17:35:30 2012 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:35:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 In-Reply-To: <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org> References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org>, <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <73940618-3A89-4AEB-ADA8-DBF599EA40EA@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <410678774.93739.1331246131042.JavaMail.www@wwinf1n32> Bonsoir Robert You just forgot the membership fee for "having a voice" in the ITU meeting For an Associate member (the lowest level) the annual fee is 10 600 Swiss Francs or 11 600 $ (see http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/membership/Pages/associates.aspx) I fully agree with you that for CS being in Dubai being is without any interest for us. That's why I asked the ITU to open itself to CS for being in phase with its "multistakeholder dogma" it preaches since the beginning of the WSIS. Of course this special membership should be free based on the contributions CS members are able to provide to the ITU. i nevedr had any support of the CS, neither during the numerous prepcoms, nor during the WSIS follow-up fora. But there are (three ?) CS orgs that are associate members such as APC. What is their advice for us to do ? Best Jeaqn-KLLouis Fullsack CSDPTT - France > Message du 08/03/12 15:51 > De : "Robert Guerra" > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Copie à : > Objet : [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12 > > Lee, > I agree that it would be good to have CS at least try to get on a national delegation. However, the challenge is not only convincing the relevant ministry to add a CS member, but also finding ways to find the funding. > How much funding would be required. Well, let me try to make a best guess .... > Let me make the following assumptions: > - Economy Flight from North America to Dubai- 15 days accommodation (1 arrival day + 14 day conference) - Expenses (per diem, etc)- Use the US State Department  Per diem rates for accommodation & per diem  > Costs:- Flight: Approx 1,300 USD (Using average from expedia.com)- Accommodation: 360 (Max accommodation rate) x 15 = 5,400- Per Diem: 143 (Max rate) x 15 = 2145 > Total: 1300+5400+2145 = 8845 . For the sake of rounding, let's call it an even 9,000 USD.  > Though this  # likely underestimates the cost as other items such as Taxi's and phone costs aren't included > What that means is that  for CS to be added to a national level delegation we need convince one's national level delegation or another donor to make 9,000 USD PER CS delegate for just the WCIT meeting in Dec. There are several preparatory meetings taking place ahead of the Dubai meeting. Thus we'd need to be there as well. Say there are 2 WCIT prep meetings - well, that increases the CS required budget from 9K to 27,000 USD! > 27,000 USD is quite a sum.  The larger question is strategic value - should we focus our time, energy and limited financial resources to fund CS participation at WCIT or instead convince national level delegations to enhance CS participation more broadly by supporting the CS IGF trust fund ? That's something no doubt worth discussing on here... > > regards > Robert > > > > -- > R. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Thu Mar 8 17:44:41 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:44:41 -0500 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?op-ed_by_ITU_Secretary_General_To?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ur=E9?= In-Reply-To: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <395B45B9-977A-458B-A841-0F97ED54A7D9@acm.org> On 7 Mar 2012, at 15:17, Robert Guerra wrote: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media-network/media-network-blog/2012/mar/06/ict-international-regulations-cybercrime > > Securing the future benefits of technology > International regulations governing ICT need to change to adapt to rapid innovations and counter the threat of cybercrime " The aim of the conference is to review the global treaty widely credited for creating the basis of today's connected world, thus the international regulatory framework governing all ICT technologies. " Talk about overreaching. avri -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 23:55:17 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:55:17 -0800 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?op-ed_by_ITU_Secretary_General_To?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ur=E9?= In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <72DDBC99-90B2-4AF8-9F27-467FE1422E6D@privaterra.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08C3D7@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: i know that preparatory meetings are underway in March and in the Asia Pacific region, APT are holding preparatory meetings.... At the end of the day, countries through their governments and private sector (at least those who are ITU members) are having their say anyway...at the end of the day civil society organisations have to determine the level os engagement. One thing is certain, we are in interesting times. On 3/8/12, Lee W McKnight wrote: > Hi, > > I agree it would be good if cs is represented at this upcoming 11-day ITU > marathon/ordeal. > > Assuming things remain the same, there are slow procedures get on national > delegations. So it is already late in the game to try to boost cs presence > in this latest rewrite of the ITU regs. But likely still possible. > > My 2 cents of advice: > > whomever from cs that has time/interest, and can manouver to get in the game > and on your own official national delegation, now is time to do so. > > And, whichever cs orgs have stomach and budget to deal direct with ITU, > likewise now is time to let ITU know that e.g., more cs > participation-friendly rules of procedure in the next gen regs, are > expected. > > Lee > > > > ________________________________ > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Salanieta T. > Tamanikaiwaimaro [salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:18 AM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Robert Guerra > Subject: Re: [governance] op-ed by ITU Secretary General Touré > > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Robert Guerra > > wrote: > Dr Hamadoun Touré, the secretary general of the International > Telecommunications Union (ITU) has an op-ed in today's the Guardian. > > In case some of you haven't seen this yet, here's a link to the text.. > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media-network/media-network-blog/2012/mar/06/ict-international-regulations-cybercrime > > Securing the future benefits of technology > International regulations governing ICT need to change to adapt to rapid > innovations and counter the threat of cybercrime > > If people are interested, we could put together an ad hoc Team of volunteers > to look examine the existing Treaty and prepare a review/assessment of it to > be put to the IGC and we can then ask the IGC if we want to make > submissions. If there is a time to start work on this, then it should be now > etc. > > It is also important that the IGC is present in the meeting in December. > > The Guardian, March 7, 2012 > > > The UN's specialised agency for information and communication technologies > (ICTs), the International Telecom Union (ITU), will hold aWorld Conference > on International Telecommunications (WCIT-12) in December. The aim of the > conference is to review the global treaty widely credited for creating the > basis of today's connected world, thus the international regulatory > framework governing all ICT technologies. > > The conference comes at a time when technology is having a major impact on > economic and social development, and represents a once-in-a-generation > opportunity to improve it even further. > > The treaty under review is known as the International Telecommunication > Regulations, or ITRs. It provides governments and industries across the > globe with the necessary frameworks for bringing variety and competition to > their telecommunications and ICT markets. > > [snipped...] > > > -- > R. Guerra > Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 > Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom > Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 03:57:55 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:57:55 +0200 Subject: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? In-Reply-To: References: <4F58C3A7.4070800@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <4F59C613.9030902@gmail.com> As Alfonso says, it is nice to have a landing point, that Gurstein has provided - I did interject at the time suggesting that the WIPO Trust Fund for ensuring the participation of indigenous people could be a model that could be used as it is tried and tested by a UN Body (so they have worked out some of the institutional issues which could be emulated. More generally, I have some thoughts on process etc. What I read from Parminder's input is a) the need for a healthy scepticism and prioritisation of "reason" (i.e. win arguments because of persuasiveness and public interest - if that is the priority for civic engagement. And that more credence needs to be given to the views that have been hitherto marginalised, especially in a space that is non-binding. b) NOT that there is an unbridgeable divide between vested interests and the public interest... a sound operating environment can benefit all, but the public interests/developing countries should not bear the disproportionate burden of adjustments etc. Therefore it is neither ironic about Veni (of course it also depends on context at the time the comments were made), nor that those affiliated with groups/IGF should not make input. On the contrary, it is more vital that they state their piece and be subject to the same rigour that for instance Parminder's views are subject to. There are more important things to be politically correct about. Trouble is that from an "objective" pov, some the arguments made often either not stand up to scrutiny or are based on different world views that are irreconcilable. But these are necessary contradictions in social change. What we do have is a safe space that can be used by all to maximise engagements on these issues so that the evolution of the ICT paradigm can be not just left to the vagaries of the market, but also serve higher ends that can/may be socially constructed. This is not intended as a side swipe, but there is a tendency nowadays to believe in the rule of technocrats and experts. Just cos someone can read a programme or circuit design does not mean that their knowledge is better because of that expertise... social sciences are different from the natural sciences, within limits of the technology of course. And here the issue is not to resolve matters but to have the correct framing. Initiatives that promote Multistakeholderism without recognising that those with money would naturally exercise disproportionate power are problematic- but it is capable of management. But my personal experience is that even basic process issues are not taken seriously enough and abuses are just brushed aside as if the norms of realpolitick should apply uniformly to norms informing public interest. This will not do. Riaz On 2012/03/08 11:14 PM, Adam Peake wrote: > Kind of ironic as this issue was pretty much what Veni was commenting > on, and making accusations about, when he left the list a few years > ago. > > FWIW: I am a part-time consultant for the IGF secretariat, means I > might be working for them in Baku. I won't know for sure until a > month or so before (this is the same each year), but as a result I > tend not to comment on substance of the IGF. Though couldn't resist > during the last open consultation :-) > > Adam > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:35 PM, parminder wrote: >> Fouad, >> >> Thanks for raising this very important issue. From the quoted article >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists >> >> "This is plutocracy, pure and simple. The battle for democracy is now a >> straight fight against the billionaires and corporations reshaping politics >> to suit their interests. The first task of all democrats must be to demand >> that any group, of any complexion, seeking to effect political change >> should reveal its funders." >> >> It is our view, among civil society groups that I work with, that no one >> should be considered civil society who doesnt reveal all funding sources, in >> a completely transparent (preferably pro-active) manner, and is not ready to >> answer all questions in this regard. >> >> What has been obvious to most for decades and centuries of devleopment of >> democratic thinking, seems to be completely lost on a lot of the so called >> IG civil society. There is this very dangerous talk of 'multi stakeholder >> funding' against 'public funding' for policy bodies (what to speak of just >> public interest civil society bodies). Since the civil society obviously has >> no funds to spare, this is just a poorly-disguised call for corporate >> funding for policy bodies. And this talk has flowered on this very list, and >> we have kept quite, nay mostly been supportive. >> >> This is nothing other than the most powerful - plutocrats, referred in the >> above quote - seeking to control the reins of policy -making and -shaping >> bodies through control over their finances. And I have seen with horror how >> easily civil society have fallen prey to this game, and openly supported >> such moves. >> >> Even in the Working Group on Improvements to the IGF (WGIIGF) this game >> played out, as one of the biggest contestations. Whether there should be any >> global public funding at all for the IGF become a big sticking point. And >> the final resolution was; no, IGF should entirely be supported by private >> funds, whether of corporates, or by voluntary donations by countries who >> have obvious partisan interests vis a vis global policy regimes. And what a >> victory for civil society - that evil UN was able to be kept at bay. We can >> celebrate! >> >> So, who are we, of the IG world, to be surprised or feel wounded to read >> such news items like this one - that special interests have been bank >> rolling the so called civil society bodies. We have gone much further; we >> have advocated and ensured that even policy bodies are exclusively financed >> by private funds, so that what you cant do by your legitimate representation >> in a policy developing system, you can do through control over its funds. A >> brave new post-democratic world indeed. And we have been less than silent >> accomplices in building it. >> >> One should have heard the long and strident arguments of our much valued >> partners of the mustistakeholder brigade - you know who - against greater >> transparency in IGF funding. However, these things look to IG civil society >> as minor issues relative to that big demon - UN taking over the Internet. >> (In the end though, and I give the credit largely to two government >> participants - one from the North and another from the South - one of the >> very very few real accomplishments of the report of the WG on IGF >> Improvements is that it calls for full disclosure - on both sides, incomes >> and expenditure - regarding IGF finances. ) >> >> Significantly, since an opposition to any UN funds for the IGF was >> sweet-coated by the 'UN taking over the Internet' bogey, an alternative >> innovative way of direct public funding of the IGF through routing of the >> fees or taxes collected by the ICANN + system from the users was proposed, >> but it was equally cynically shot down. So you see, the problem is not only >> with UN's 'tainted' public funds - as some want to see it - it is against >> any funding which is automatic and which doesnt give the rich and the >> powerful discretionary levers of control over the global IG policy system. >> >> Quite unhappily, there wasnt even any civil society support for this >> proposal. >> >> In the circumstances, going back to the original article about corporate >> money and politics, I think IG civil society has a lot to think about its >> own conduct and outlook in this matter. >> >> parminder >> >> On Thursday 08 March 2012 06:12 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: >> >> We need to know who funds these thinktank lobbyists. >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 05:53:03 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:53:03 +0500 Subject: [governance] Is this the same in Internet Governance? In-Reply-To: <4F59C613.9030902@gmail.com> References: <4F58C3A7.4070800@itforchange.net> <4F59C613.9030902@gmail.com> Message-ID: You are right that there are more important things to be politically correct about. I see vested interests moving forward in the form of business cartels that influence regulatory and policy spaces by lobbying governments and this article link I shared specifically points to such a power struggle. Some countries are seen fighting these forces in one or the other and I've seen between the lines like this article was an interesting read last year that pointed to China actually making it clear to such cartels that last year's Internet white paper: "stressed the need for entities that did business in China to respect its rules, its laws, its filtering requirements." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monroe-price/xinhua-chinas-soft-power-_b_872578.html Despite China's soft sided media statements, we significant chaos and discussions around the IBSA proposals where again nations decided to step up their defense against cartels influence in other Internet related foras of global interest. ACTA is also a good measurement tool to see who and where are entities interested in opposing ACTA so that the cartels can evangelize more supporters and strengthen a certain single sided philosophy. Even within the IGF discussions and where negotiations happen very fluidly, we see sidings and cartel building and pushing the paper activities. Within the context of EU, one would sometime see government led cartels that try to put up a proper fight before actually giving into larger economic and social interest pressures. Its not an easy road for people that engage with civic interests and are driven by both social interest and their soul material! For cartels, there is no spirit but for civic movements there is both a soul or spirit that drives their understanding of common, collaborative, public good. I would like to understand from your experience standpoint that how can the correct framing of issues and solutions be done against two growing information, communication, media and Internet cartels whether commercial interest led or govt interest led? The natural exercise of disproportionate power as you mention is very problematic but how can it be managed when financial forces determine the very foundation of access and infrastructure evolution and whenever these issues are touched, they fall under govt policy and regulation that is once again already being influenced by these commercial cartels? -- Best Fouad On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: > As Alfonso says, it is nice to have a landing point, that Gurstein has > provided - I did interject at the time suggesting that the WIPO Trust Fund > for ensuring the participation of indigenous people could be a model that > could be used as it is tried and tested by a UN Body (so they have worked > out some of the institutional issues which could be emulated. > > More generally, I have some thoughts on process etc. > > What I read from Parminder's input is > > a) the need for a healthy scepticism and prioritisation of "reason" (i.e. > win arguments because of persuasiveness and public interest - if that is the > priority for civic engagement. And that more credence needs to be given to > the views that have been hitherto marginalised, especially in a space that > is non-binding. > > b) NOT that there is an unbridgeable divide between vested interests and the > public interest... a sound operating environment can benefit all, but the > public interests/developing countries should not bear the disproportionate > burden of adjustments etc. Therefore it is neither ironic about Veni (of > course it also depends on context at the time the comments were made), nor > that those affiliated with groups/IGF should not make input. On the > contrary, it is more vital that they state their piece and be subject to the > same rigour that for instance Parminder's views are subject to. There are > more important things to be politically correct about. Trouble is that from > an "objective" pov, some the arguments made often either not stand up to > scrutiny or are based on different world views that are irreconcilable. But > these are necessary contradictions in social change. What we do have is a > safe space that can be used by all to maximise engagements on these issues > so that the evolution of the ICT paradigm can be not just left to the > vagaries of the market, but also serve higher ends that can/may be socially > constructed. > > This is not intended as a side swipe, but there is a tendency nowadays to > believe in the rule of technocrats and experts. Just cos someone can read a > programme or circuit design does not mean that their knowledge is better > because of that expertise... social sciences are different from the natural > sciences, within limits of the technology of course. And here the issue is > not to resolve matters but to have the correct framing. Initiatives that > promote Multistakeholderism without recognising that those with money would > naturally exercise disproportionate power are problematic- but it is capable > of management. But my personal experience is that even basic process issues > are not taken seriously enough and abuses are just brushed aside as if the > norms of realpolitick should apply uniformly to norms informing public > interest. This will not do. > > Riaz > > > > On 2012/03/08 11:14 PM, Adam Peake wrote: >> >> Kind of ironic as this issue was pretty much what Veni was commenting >> on, and making accusations about, when he left the list a few years >> ago. >> >> FWIW: I am a part-time consultant for the IGF secretariat, means I >> might be working for them in Baku.  I won't know for sure until a >> month or so before (this is the same each year), but as a result I >> tend not to comment on substance of the IGF.  Though couldn't resist >> during the last open consultation :-) >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:35 PM, parminder >>  wrote: >>> >>> Fouad, >>> >>> Thanks for raising this very important issue. From the quoted article >>> >>> >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists >>> >>> "This is plutocracy, pure and simple. The battle for democracy is now a >>> straight fight against the billionaires and corporations reshaping >>> politics >>> to suit their interests. The first task of all democrats must be to >>> demand >>> that any group, of any complexion, seeking to effect political change >>> should reveal its funders." >>> >>> It is our view, among civil society groups that I work with, that no one >>> should be considered civil society who doesnt reveal all funding sources, >>> in >>> a completely transparent (preferably pro-active) manner, and is not ready >>> to >>> answer all questions in this regard. >>> >>> What has been obvious to most for decades and centuries of devleopment of >>> democratic thinking, seems to be completely lost on a lot of the so >>> called >>> IG civil society. There is this very dangerous talk of 'multi stakeholder >>> funding' against 'public funding' for policy bodies (what to speak of >>> just >>> public interest civil society bodies). Since the civil society obviously >>> has >>> no funds to spare, this is just a poorly-disguised call for corporate >>> funding for policy bodies. And this talk has flowered on this very list, >>> and >>> we have kept quite, nay mostly been supportive. >>> >>> This is nothing other than the most powerful - plutocrats, referred in >>> the >>> above quote - seeking to control the reins of policy -making and -shaping >>> bodies through control over their finances. And I have seen with horror >>> how >>> easily civil society have fallen prey to this game, and openly supported >>> such moves. >>> >>> Even in the Working Group on Improvements to the IGF (WGIIGF) this game >>> played out, as one of the biggest contestations. Whether there should be >>> any >>> global public funding at all for the IGF become a big sticking point. And >>> the final resolution was; no, IGF should entirely be supported by private >>> funds, whether of corporates, or by voluntary donations by countries who >>> have obvious partisan interests vis a vis global policy regimes. And what >>> a >>> victory for civil society - that evil UN was able to be kept at bay. We >>> can >>> celebrate! >>> >>> So, who are we, of the IG world, to be surprised or feel wounded to read >>> such news items like this one - that special interests have been bank >>> rolling the so called civil society bodies. We have gone much further; we >>> have advocated and ensured that even policy bodies are exclusively >>> financed >>> by private funds, so that what you cant do by your legitimate >>> representation >>> in a policy developing system, you can do through control over its funds. >>> A >>> brave new post-democratic world indeed. And we have been less than silent >>> accomplices in building it. >>> >>> One should have heard the long and strident arguments of our much valued >>> partners of the mustistakeholder brigade - you know who - against greater >>> transparency in IGF funding. However, these things look to IG civil >>> society >>> as minor issues relative to that big demon - UN taking over the Internet. >>> (In the end though, and I give the credit largely to two government >>> participants - one from the North and another from the South - one of the >>> very very few real accomplishments of the report of the WG on IGF >>> Improvements is that it calls for full disclosure - on both sides, >>> incomes >>> and expenditure - regarding IGF finances. ) >>> >>> Significantly, since an opposition to any UN funds for the IGF was >>> sweet-coated by the 'UN taking over the Internet' bogey, an alternative >>> innovative way of direct public funding of the IGF through routing of the >>> fees or taxes collected by the ICANN + system from the users was >>> proposed, >>> but it was equally cynically shot down. So you see, the problem is not >>> only >>> with UN's 'tainted' public funds - as some want to see it - it is against >>> any funding which is automatic and which doesnt give the rich and the >>> powerful discretionary levers of control over the global IG policy >>> system. >>> >>> Quite unhappily, there wasnt even any civil society support for this >>> proposal. >>> >>> In the circumstances, going back to the original article about corporate >>> money and politics, I think IG civil society has a lot to think about its >>> own conduct and outlook in this matter. >>> >>> parminder >>> >>> On Thursday 08 March 2012 06:12 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: >>> >>> We need to know who funds these thinktank lobbyists. >>> >>> >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 11:45:59 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 08:45:59 -0800 Subject: [governance] FW: [IP] Fear of sopa backlash again Message-ID: <201BE4F5564149238553F1CB681CA417@UserVAIO> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Dewayne Hendricks" Date: Mar 9, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: [Dewayne-Net] =?windows-1252?Q?Pols_fear_=91SOPA_backlash=92_= To: "Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net" Pols fear 'SOPA backlash' By KIM HART 3/8/12 In the wake of the Internet blackout that led to the dramatic death of two controversial online piracy bills, a new warning has entered the Hill vernacular: "Don't get SOPA'd." Lawmakers are tiptoeing around issues that could tick off tech heavyweights such as Google or Amazon. They don't want a legislative misstep to trigger the same kind of online revolt that killed the Stop Online Piracy Act in the House and the Protect IP Act in the Senate in January. That means the industry now has the upper hand in some legislative debates - from cybersecurity to online sales tax. "Nobody wants another SOPA moment," Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), a vocal critic of SOPA, told POLITICO. "The nerds are more powerful than anyone thought, and the tech industry flexed its muscle like never before." Lawmakers don't want to give the tech industry a reason to flex that muscle again at the expense of their own bills, so they're going to extra lengths to address the industry's concerns and smooth out disagreements that could escalate into bigger fights. Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) said the anti-SOPA movement showed a certain "coming of political age" for the tech industry, and his colleagues in the House are treading carefully. "They're involving the tech community more and are more interested in listening," said Polis, who also opposed SOPA. "They're paying closer attention now." The SOPA wounds are still fresh. It was less than two months ago that Wikipedia and Reddit went dark in protest of SOPA and PIPA, and Google blacked out its logo on its homepage. Tech blogs warned of the dangers of the two Hollywood-backed bills that would have ratcheted up the legal consequences of hosting illegally copied content on the Web. The entertainment industry, which had done an excellent job lining up bipartisan support for the bills, hoped the legislation would significantly curb the online piracy that has decimated their business models. 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Message-ID: <7F89CC95-56D0-4BC0-B415-CA7450F9F2A2@privaterra.org> Does anyone know if there are any new developments in regards to the launching of the Azeri IGF 2012 Host Country website. According to my notes of the IGF consultations back in Feb the site was supposed to have been launched by now. regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sat Mar 10 12:22:42 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:22:42 -0500 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?NTIA_says_ICANN_=93does_not_meet_th?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?e_requirements=94_for_IANA_renewal?= Message-ID: <25A2AF1D-3BB3-452E-A0A1-CC30247E48CC@privaterra.org> Thought i'd share the following news that is popping up on twitter regarding NTIA's IANA renewal RFP... NTIA says ICANN “does not meet the requirements” for IANA renewal http://domainincite.com/ntia-says-icann-does-not-meet-the-requirements-for-iana-renewal/ Kevin Murphy, March 10, 2012, 15:21:51 (UTC), Domain Policy The National Telecommunications and Information Administration has dealt a stunning blow to ICANN in its bid to carry on running the internet’s critical IANA functions. The NTIA said this hour that it has canceled the RFP for the new IANA contract “because we received no proposals that met the requirements requested by the global community” NTIA thinks that ICANN’s bid was unsatisfactory, in other words. The NTIA said: Based on the input received from stakeholders around the world, NTIA added new requirements to the IANA functions’ statement of work, including the need for structural separation of policymaking from implementation, a robust companywide conflict of interest policy, provisions reflecting heightened respect for local country laws, and a series of consultation and reporting requirements to increase transparency and accountability to the international community. The government may cancel any solicitation that does not meet the requirements. Accordingly, we are cancelling this RFP because we received no proposals that met the requirements requested by the global community. The Department intends to reissue the RFP at a future date to be determined (TBD) so that the requirements of the global internet community can be served. However, it has extended ICANN’s current IANA contract until September 30, 2012. This means ICANN still has its IANA powers over the DNS root zone, at least for another six months. While the NTIA has not yet revealed where ICANN’s bid for the contract fell short, it is known that the NTIA and ICANN’s senior management did not exactly see eye to eye on certain issues. One of the key sticking points is the NTIA’s demand that the IANA contractor – ICANN – must document that all new gTLD delegations are in “the global public interest”. This demand is a way to prevent another controversy such as the approval of .xxx a year ago, which the Governmental Advisory Committee objected to on the grounds that it was not the “the global public interest”. Coupled with newly strengthened Applicant Guidebook powers for the GAC to object to new gTLD application, the IANA language could be described as “if the GAC objects, you must reject”. If the GAC were to declare .gay or .catholic “not in the global public interest”, it would be pretty tough for ICANN to prove otherwise. But ICANN CEO Rod Beckstrom has previously stated that he believed such rules imposed by the US government would undermine the multistakeholder process. He told the NTIA last June that the draft IANA contract language stood to “rewrite” ICANN’s own process when it came to approving new gTLDs. The IANA functions contract should not be used to rewrite the policy and implementation process adopted through the bottom-up decision-making process. Not only would this undermine the very principle of the multi-stakeholder model, it would be inconsistent with the objective of more clearly distinguishing policy development from operational implementation by the IANA functions operator. Since then, language requiring ICANN to prove “consensus” on new gTLD delegations was removed, but language requiring it to demonstrate the “global public interest” remains. The game is bigger than petty squabbling about new gTLDs, however. The US government is worried about International Telecommunications Union treaty talks later this year, which many countries want to use to push for government-led internet governance. A strong GAC, backed by an enforceable IANA contract, is one way to field concerns that ICANN is not responsive enough to government interests. It’s tempting to view the deferral of the IANA renewal as an attempt to wait out Beckstrom’s tenure as CEO – he’s set to leave at the end of June – and deal with a more compliant replacement instead. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sat Mar 10 12:37:28 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:37:28 -0500 Subject: [governance] Domain name seizures and .CA Message-ID: Thought the following blog post by Byron Holland, the CEO of CIRA might be of interest to the list... http://blog.cira.ca/2012/03/domain-name-seizures-and-ca/ Domain name seizures and .CA Posted by: Byron Holland Domain name seizures have been top-of-mind for many people lately. It was one of the topics identified at the Canadian Internet Forum, and the high profile seizure by the U.S. government of the Canadian online gambling site bodog.com has been getting a lot ofmedia attention. This also isn’t the first time the U.S. government has seized domain names based on ‘illegal’ activity. In 2010, a number of .COM, .NET and .ORG domains were seized, and a country code top-level domain (ccTLD) operated by VeriSign in California, .TV, wasseized as well. In 2011, another 150 were seized. For the most part, the Internet does not recognize national borders. Internet traffic is routed all over the globe, and it’s possible to register a domain using a wide variety of domain name extensions. Here’s the thing – the stuff to the right of the dot matters: note that bodog.ca still resolves. If you register a domain name with an extension that is managed in another country, it is likely subject to the laws of that country – full stop. If a website is found to be in violation of American law, and the domain for that site is an extension managed by a U.S. entity, the U.S. government may seize it. If you keep your business in another country (in the case of Canada, register a .CA with a Canadian Registrar and use a Canadian web host), foreign governments can’t unilaterally seize it. CIRA has never been asked by a foreign government to shut down or seize a domain name. The DNS root zone does fall under American jurisdiction with ICANN (through IANA) as the operator. However, ICANN has explicitly stated in a blog post that they do “not take down domain names” and that they “have no technical or legal authority to do that.” The fact is ICANN couldn’t cherry-pick domains even if it wanted to. If the U.S. government decided that they wanted to shut down a .CA website, and tried to do it through ICANN, they would have to shut down all of .CA in the root zone. This would involve cutting off every single .CA website and email address from the Internet, and they’re not going to do that for a number of reasons (not the least of which is the fact that shutting down the entire .CA domain space and everything in it would be a major international incident). The global economy would freeze if the U.S. government took such an action. The underpinnings of the Internet would be completely undermined. Think about this: the U.S. government hasn’t even shut down the Internet in nations they’ve been at war or have very strained relations with – Iraq, Libya, Iran are just a few examples – because the trust that supports the Internet is fundamental to the economic and social well-being of humanity. Given that, why would they shut down an entire top level domain over a single website? The Internet has brought us incredible benefits, many due to the fact that it breaks down national and geographic borders. However, because of the very nature of the Internet – the fact that it is ‘virtual’ and ‘in the cloud’ – most of us don’t tend to think of it being governed by the laws of a particular nation. But as the bodog.com case demonstrates, it is critically important to be aware of which jurisdiction your digital assets are in, and therefore what laws they may be subject to. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sat Mar 10 12:47:06 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:47:06 -0500 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re=3A_NTIA_says_ICANN_=93does_not_m?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?eet_the_requirements=94_for_IANA_renewal?= In-Reply-To: <25A2AF1D-3BB3-452E-A0A1-CC30247E48CC@privaterra.org> References: <25A2AF1D-3BB3-452E-A0A1-CC30247E48CC@privaterra.org> Message-ID: As the story is - breaking - well, multiple sources are posting further comments and/or analysis of the news. Here are two posts - one by Circle ID and the other by NTIA.. http://www.circleid.com/posts/print/20120309_department_of_commerce_cancels_iana_contract_rfp/ The United States government has cancelled Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Request for Proposal (RFP) SA1301-12-RP-IANA according to an updated page on the FedBizOpps website. The change — time stamped Mar 09, 2012 2:44 pm — states: "The Department of Commerce intends to reissue the RFP at a future date, date to be determined (TBD). Interested parties are encouraged to periodically visit www.fbo.gov for updates [snipped] Update: NTIA official notice issued March 10, 2012 The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) remains committed to preserving the stability and security of the Internet's domain name system (DNS). Critical to the DNS is the continued performance of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) functions. In anticipation of the impending expiration of the IANA functions contract, NTIA, via two public notices in February and June 2011, consulted on how best to enhance the performance of the IANA functions. Based on the input received from stakeholders around the world, NTIA added new requirements to the IANA functions' statement of work, including the need for structural separation of policymaking from implementation, a robust companywide conflict of interest policy, provisions reflecting heightened respect for local country laws, and a series of consultation and reporting requirements to increase transparency and accountability to the international community. On November 10, 2011, the Department of Commerce issued a Request for Proposal (RFP) SA1301-12-RP-IANA for a new IANA functions contract with a deadline of December 19, 2011. The government may cancel any solicitation that does not meet the requirements. Accordingly, we are cancelling this RFP because we received no proposals that met the requirements requested by the global community. The Department intends to reissue the RFP at a future date to be determined (TBD) so that the requirements of the global internet community can be served. Interested parties are encouraged to visit www.fbo.gov for updates. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/other-publication/2012/notice-extension-internet-assigned-numbers-authority-iana-functions-contract The Commerce Department's National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) reached an agreement with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) to continue performing the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) functions until September 30, 2012. The IANA functions are the key technical functions supporting the Internet Domain Name System. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From karl at cavebear.com Sat Mar 10 12:57:32 2012 From: karl at cavebear.com (Karl Auerbach) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:57:32 -0800 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re=3A_NTIA_says_ICANN_=93does_n?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ot_meet_the_requirements=94_for_IANA_renewal?= In-Reply-To: References: <25A2AF1D-3BB3-452E-A0A1-CC30247E48CC@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <4F5B960C.8040705@cavebear.com> On 03/10/2012 09:47 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > As the story is - breaking - well, multiple sources are posting further comments and/or analysis of the news. Don't forget that NTIA has good reason to delay everything until after the US elections that will occur in early November of this year. None of the new TLD's will be implemented before that election and NTIA, being an agency subject to political winds (and funded by Congress) will naturally want to want to wait to for the election results so they can turn their decisions to the results of that election. (We forget that it is ICANN's decisions about TLDs are not the final decision - NTIA is the next step and it must make a yes/no choice before it issues the order to Verisign to update the root zone file. NTIA can come under a great deal of bright light, and pressure, at that stage in the process.) --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Sat Mar 10 13:27:22 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:27:22 -0300 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re=3A_NTIA_says_ICANN_=93does_n?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ot_meet_the_requirements=94_for_IANA_renewal?= In-Reply-To: <4F5B960C.8040705@cavebear.com> References: <25A2AF1D-3BB3-452E-A0A1-CC30247E48CC@privaterra.org> <4F5B960C.8040705@cavebear.com> Message-ID: <4F5B9D0A.7010205@cafonso.ca> Yes, maybe, Karl, but they extended the current contract just until Sept.2012. --c.a. On 03/10/2012 02:57 PM, Karl Auerbach wrote: > On 03/10/2012 09:47 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: >> As the story is - breaking - well, multiple sources are posting further comments and/or analysis of the news. > > Don't forget that NTIA has good reason to delay everything until after > the US elections that will occur in early November of this year. > > None of the new TLD's will be implemented before that election and NTIA, > being an agency subject to political winds (and funded by Congress) will > naturally want to want to wait to for the election results so they can > turn their decisions to the results of that election. > > (We forget that it is ICANN's decisions about TLDs are not the final > decision - NTIA is the next step and it must make a yes/no choice before > it issues the order to Verisign to update the root zone file. NTIA can > come under a great deal of bright light, and pressure, at that stage in > the process.) > > --karl-- > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From karl at cavebear.com Sat Mar 10 14:07:07 2012 From: karl at cavebear.com (Karl Auerbach) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:07:07 -0800 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re=3A_NTIA_says_ICANN_=93does_n?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ot_meet_the_requirements=94_for_IANA_renewal?= In-Reply-To: <4F5B9D0A.7010205@cafonso.ca> References: <25A2AF1D-3BB3-452E-A0A1-CC30247E48CC@privaterra.org> <4F5B960C.8040705@cavebear.com> <4F5B9D0A.7010205@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <4F5BA65B.7070705@cavebear.com> On 03/10/2012 10:27 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Yes, maybe, Karl, but they extended the current contract just until > Sept.2012. Good point; kinda puts a pin into my theory. --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 14:12:06 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:12:06 -0800 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <25A2AF1D-3BB3-452E-A0A1-CC30247E48CC@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <2A301F0EBA154D4BA260EA8D6877047E@UserVAIO> Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, and a definition for "the global public interest". M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:23 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal Thought i'd share the following news that is popping up on twitter regarding NTIA's IANA renewal RFP... NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal http://domainincite.com/ntia-says-icann-does-not-meet-the-requirements-for-i ana-renewal/ Kevin Murphy, March 10, 2012, 15:21:51 (UTC), Domain Policy The National Telecommunications and Information Administration has dealt a stunning blow to ICANN in its bid to carry on running the internet's critical IANA functions. The NTIA said this hour that it has canceled the RFP for the new IANA contract "because we received no proposals that met the requirements requested by the global community" NTIA thinks that ICANN's bid was unsatisfactory, in other words. The NTIA said: Based on the input received from stakeholders around the world, NTIA added new requirements to the IANA functions' statement of work, including the need for structural separation of policymaking from implementation, a robust companywide conflict of interest policy, provisions reflecting heightened respect for local country laws, and a series of consultation and reporting requirements to increase transparency and accountability to the international community. The government may cancel any solicitation that does not meet the requirements. Accordingly, we are cancelling this RFP because we received no proposals that met the requirements requested by the global community. The Department intends to reissue the RFP at a future date to be determined (TBD) so that the requirements of the global internet community can be served. However, it has extended ICANN's current IANA contract until September 30, 2012. This means ICANN still has its IANA powers over the DNS root zone, at least for another six months. While the NTIA has not yet revealed where ICANN's bid for the contract fell short, it is known that the NTIA and ICANN's senior management did not exactly see eye to eye on certain issues. One of the key sticking points is the NTIA's demand that the IANA contractor - ICANN - must document that all new gTLD delegations are in "the global public interest". This demand is a way to prevent another controversy such as the approval of .xxx a year ago, which the Governmental Advisory Committee objected to on the grounds that it was not the "the global public interest". Coupled with newly strengthened Applicant Guidebook powers for the GAC to object to new gTLD application, the IANA language could be described as "if the GAC objects, you must reject". If the GAC were to declare .gay or .catholic "not in the global public interest", it would be pretty tough for ICANN to prove otherwise. But ICANN CEO Rod Beckstrom has previously stated that he believed such rules imposed by the US government would undermine the multistakeholder process. He told the NTIA last June that the draft IANA contract language stood to "rewrite" ICANN's own process when it came to approving new gTLDs. The IANA functions contract should not be used to rewrite the policy and implementation process adopted through the bottom-up decision-making process. Not only would this undermine the very principle of the multi-stakeholder model, it would be inconsistent with the objective of more clearly distinguishing policy development from operational implementation by the IANA functions operator. Since then, language requiring ICANN to prove "consensus" on new gTLD delegations was removed, but language requiring it to demonstrate the "global public interest" remains. The game is bigger than petty squabbling about new gTLDs, however. The US government is worried about International Telecommunications Union treaty talks later this year, which many countries want to use to push for government-led internet governance. A strong GAC, backed by an enforceable IANA contract, is one way to field concerns that ICANN is not responsive enough to government interests. It's tempting to view the deferral of the IANA renewal as an attempt to wait out Beckstrom's tenure as CEO - he's set to leave at the end of June - and deal with a more compliant replacement instead. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Sat Mar 10 14:16:09 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:16:09 -0300 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <2A301F0EBA154D4BA260EA8D6877047E@UserVAIO> References: <2A301F0EBA154D4BA260EA8D6877047E@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <4F5BA879.3030504@cafonso.ca> My turn to say: good point! :) --c.a. On 03/10/2012 04:12 PM, michael gurstein wrote: > > Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, > and a definition for "the global public interest". > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:23 AM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for > IANA renewal > > > Thought i'd share the following news that is popping up on twitter regarding > NTIA's IANA renewal RFP... > > > NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal > http://domainincite.com/ntia-says-icann-does-not-meet-the-requirements-for-i > ana-renewal/ > > Kevin Murphy, March 10, 2012, 15:21:51 (UTC), Domain Policy > > The National Telecommunications and Information Administration has dealt a > stunning blow to ICANN in its bid to carry on running the internet's > critical IANA functions. > > The NTIA said this hour that it has canceled the RFP for the new IANA > contract "because we received no proposals that met the requirements > requested by the global community" > > NTIA thinks that ICANN's bid was unsatisfactory, in other words. > > The NTIA said: > > Based on the input received from stakeholders around the world, NTIA added > new requirements to the IANA functions' statement of work, including the > need for structural separation of policymaking from implementation, a robust > companywide conflict of interest policy, provisions reflecting heightened > respect for local country laws, and a series of consultation and reporting > requirements to increase transparency and accountability to the > international community. > > The government may cancel any solicitation that does not meet the > requirements. Accordingly, we are cancelling this RFP because we received no > proposals that met the requirements requested by the global community. The > Department intends to reissue the RFP at a future date to be determined > (TBD) so that the requirements of the global internet community can be > served. > > However, it has extended ICANN's current IANA contract until September 30, > 2012. > > This means ICANN still has its IANA powers over the DNS root zone, at least > for another six months. > > While the NTIA has not yet revealed where ICANN's bid for the contract fell > short, it is known that the NTIA and ICANN's senior management did not > exactly see eye to eye on certain issues. > > One of the key sticking points is the NTIA's demand that the IANA contractor > - ICANN - must document that all new gTLD delegations are in "the global > public interest". > > This demand is a way to prevent another controversy such as the approval of > .xxx a year ago, which the Governmental Advisory Committee objected to on > the grounds that it was not the "the global public interest". > > Coupled with newly strengthened Applicant Guidebook powers for the GAC to > object to new gTLD application, the IANA language could be described as "if > the GAC objects, you must reject". > > If the GAC were to declare .gay or .catholic "not in the global public > interest", it would be pretty tough for ICANN to prove otherwise. > > But ICANN CEO Rod Beckstrom has previously stated that he believed such > rules imposed by the US government would undermine the multistakeholder > process. > > He told the NTIA last June that the draft IANA contract language stood to > "rewrite" ICANN's own process when it came to approving new gTLDs. > > The IANA functions contract should not be used to rewrite the policy and > implementation process adopted through the bottom-up decision-making > process. Not only would this undermine the very principle of the > multi-stakeholder model, it would be inconsistent with the objective of more > clearly distinguishing policy development from operational implementation by > the IANA functions operator. > > Since then, language requiring ICANN to prove "consensus" on new gTLD > delegations was removed, but language requiring it to demonstrate the > "global public interest" remains. > > The game is bigger than petty squabbling about new gTLDs, however. > > The US government is worried about International Telecommunications Union > treaty talks later this year, which many countries want to use to push for > government-led internet governance. > > A strong GAC, backed by an enforceable IANA contract, is one way to field > concerns that ICANN is not responsive enough to government interests. > > It's tempting to view the deferral of the IANA renewal as an attempt to wait > out Beckstrom's tenure as CEO - he's set to leave at the end of June - and > deal with a more compliant replacement instead. > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Sat Mar 10 16:15:38 2012 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:15:38 +0100 Subject: [governance] A couple of posts about the ITU and state control of the Internet Message-ID: <0940D377-A87C-49CB-BA63-87F40C8B3C52@consensus.pro> Good evening list members I thought I would send along details of two posts that I hope will be of interest to you all: First, Matthias Langenegger of CCIA has a blog post of his experience at the recent HRC panel discussion of human rights on the Internet in Geneva (and the attempts by Russia, China, and friends to disrupt the meeting etc.) The blog post is here: http://www.ccianet.org/index.asp?bid=89&BlogEntryID=224&FormID=300&catid=0 Also by CCIA, the CEO has a Huffington Post OpEd on the threats to the open Internet posed by these countries' agendas being pushed at the ITU: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-j-black/uns-itu-could-become-next_b_1332768.html Have a good weekend :) All the best, Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From karl at cavebear.com Sat Mar 10 16:32:48 2012 From: karl at cavebear.com (Karl Auerbach) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:32:48 -0800 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <2A301F0EBA154D4BA260EA8D6877047E@UserVAIO> References: <2A301F0EBA154D4BA260EA8D6877047E@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <4F5BC880.9090803@cavebear.com> On 03/10/2012 11:12 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, > and a definition for "the global public interest". Might I suggest the following as a starting point? + Every person shall be free to use the Internet in any way that is privately beneficial without being publicly detrimental. - The burden of demonstrating public detriment shall be on those who wish to prevent the private use. - Such a demonstration shall require clear and convincing evidence of public detriment. - The public detriment must be of such degree and extent as to justify the suppression of the private activity. This is from http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From matthias.kettemann at uni-graz.at Sat Mar 10 17:01:17 2012 From: matthias.kettemann at uni-graz.at (Matthias C. Kettemann) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:01:17 +0100 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5BC880.9090803@cavebear.com> References: <2A301F0EBA154D4BA260EA8D6877047E@UserVAIO> <4F5BC880.9090803@cavebear.com> Message-ID: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> I have done a bit of thinking and writing about what the NTIA decision tells us about Internet Governance and the multi-stakeholder approach. In brief: Is the NTIA decision a good thing for multistakeholderbased human rights-sensitive Internet Governance? It is, if it leads to more accountability in the next application of ICANN, which is sure to follow. It isn't, if it leads to more governmental oversight in defining the global public interest vis-a-vis the web. For more details, see http://goo.gl/d5GI8 Cheers Matthias Am 10.03.2012 22:32, schrieb Karl Auerbach: > On 03/10/2012 11:12 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > >> Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, >> and a definition for "the global public interest". > Might I suggest the following as a starting point? > > + Every person shall be free to use the Internet in any way > that is privately beneficial without being publicly > detrimental. > > - The burden of demonstrating public detriment shall > be on those who wish to prevent the private use. > > - Such a demonstration shall require clear and > convincing evidence of public detriment. > > - The public detriment must be of such degree and extent > as to justify the suppression of the private activity. > > This is from http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html > > --karl-- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 17:04:17 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:04:17 -0800 Subject: [governance] FW: @The Internet Blueprint: The Internet Platform for Innovation Act :-) Message-ID: <60701577A0DB433883356D043317B0F8@UserVAIO> This below is one of several efforts to pro-actively define an appropriate legislative environment for the Internet in the US. Given current initiatives parallel to SOPA/PIPA in Canada and in many countries around the world and the controversy concerning the upcoming WCIT/ITU www.itu.int/council/groups/cwg-wcit12 meeting in December those with an interest in these developments should be paying close attention including to the note (and links below). Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any broad global civil society framework for information exchange or coalition building in this area to match the various focused private sector led activities (SOPA/PIPA) or internet restricting governmental initiatives as some are fearing might come out of the WCIT. M -----Original Message----- From: Seth Johnson [mailto:seth.p.johnson at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 12:55 AM Subject: Re: @The Internet Blueprint: The Internet Platform for Innovation Act :-) Some elaboration I just posted follows. I refer to the later Internet Distinction statement and in a reply I also posted the link to Matthew Lasar's "How Will We Know When the Internet is Dead?" (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/are-you-on-the-internet-or- something-else.ars) "We Want the Internet We Developed" http://internetblueprint.org/comment/13#comment-13 We want a general purpose platform for end user innovation. We want a generative platform that enables us to control our communications as end users, not the incumbents, a platform that lets us do that while interoperating with independent providers across the globe. That's what you get by sending packets without regard for the applications end users use and develop. Right now, we have an IncumbentNet, not an Internet -- and an FCC that's gone along with that. The FCC barely recognizes the difference between the Internet and "specialized services" right now -- and we still have the problem of their ability to enforce that distinction by the legal approach they have chosen. We can assure that the basic principles of Internet interconnection that participatory processes have developed in standards bodies are the recognized basis for the policy discussion, and we can demand the platform that we want, by making the right definition enforceable by the FTC and making sure we can identify when we're not getting it. Defining "Internet" in terms of the basic technical behavior of the Internet Protocol lets us pursue whatever policy approach works to enforce that definition. It also eliminates confusion about other kinds of offerings. This is especially the case if the incumbents choose not to offer it and to simply relabel their offerings. What we don't want is for the incumbents and the FCC to redefine the terms and give us something else and let them call that an "Open Internet." Here's a joint statement regarding the FCC's Open Internet Proceeding that makes some key points that need to be at the core of Internet advocacy: http://internetdistinction.com/statement/ On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Seth Johnson wrote: > 1) Register here: > http://internetblueprint.org/user/register > > 2) Go to the DPS proposal here and click on the blue votes button: > http://internetblueprint.org/content/preserve-internet-standards-assur > e-net-neutrality > > :-) > > Seth > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Seth Johnson > wrote: >> Had to update Paul Hyland's, Michael Maranda's and Michael Gurstein's >> email addresses. >> >> Also note I posted the DPS Project proposal: >> >> http://internetblueprint.org/content/preserve-internet-standards-assu >> re-net-neutrality >> >> >> Seth >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Seth Johnson >> wrote: >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Sherwin Siy >>> Date: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM >>> Subject: [A2k] the Internet Blueprint: grassroots suggestions for >>> reforming U.S.Internet law >>> To: a2k discuss list >>> >>> >>> Today Public Knowledge is excited to announce The Internet >>> Blueprint, hosted at internetblueprint.org.  The Internet Blueprint >>> is an attempt to put forward a positive agenda post SOPA and PIPA. >>> Please feel free to go to the site and poke around, but let me give >>> you a quick overview of the site. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The first thing you will see on the site is a list of proposals. >>> These go beyond general statements, and include detailed >>> descriptions and actual bill text.  Going forward, they will also >>> contain icons for Congressional champions, along with organization >>> and company endorsers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Scrolling down, there is also an opportunity for members of the >>> public to suggest additions to the site.  Anyone can create an >>> account and propose an addition.  Then the public can upvote the >>> ones they like.  If the proposal gets enough support, they will be >>> considered for inclusion in the formal list of proposals. Also, >>> hopefully, some of the organizations on this list will consider >>> endorsing one (or more than one) specific proposal on the site. >>> >>> >>> >>> There is more information here: >>> http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/introducing-internet-blueprint >>> >>> >>> >>> And, of course, here: www.internetblueprint.org >>> >>> >>> >>> So please take a look and let us know what you think.  Also, if you >>> would like to endorse a proposal and have your logo displayed on the >>> site, please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sherwin >>> >>> Sherwin Siy >>> Deputy Legal Director >>> Public Knowledge >>> www.publicknowledge.org >>> 202.861.0020 >>> >>> 1818 N St. NW, Suite 410 >>> Washington, DC 20036 _______________________________________________ >>> A2k mailing list >>> A2k at lists.keionline.org >>> http://lists.keionline.org/mailman/listinfo/a2k_lists.keionline.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 17:17:25 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:17:25 -0800 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> I think from a civil society perspective the "formal" use of the terminology of a "global public interest" is enormously important and defining, operationalizing, and "owning" this terminology should be the primary focus of civil society involvement in the IGF going forward. M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Matthias C. Kettemann Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:01 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal I have done a bit of thinking and writing about what the NTIA decision tells us about Internet Governance and the multi-stakeholder approach. In brief: Is the NTIA decision a good thing for multistakeholderbased human rights-sensitive Internet Governance? It is, if it leads to more accountability in the next application of ICANN, which is sure to follow. It isn't, if it leads to more governmental oversight in defining the global public interest vis-a-vis the web. For more details, see http://goo.gl/d5GI8 Cheers Matthias Am 10.03.2012 22:32, schrieb Karl Auerbach: On 03/10/2012 11:12 AM, michael gurstein wrote: Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, and a definition for "the global public interest". Might I suggest the following as a starting point? + Every person shall be free to use the Internet in any way that is privately beneficial without being publicly detrimental. - The burden of demonstrating public detriment shall be on those who wish to prevent the private use. - Such a demonstration shall require clear and convincing evidence of public detriment. - The public detriment must be of such degree and extent as to justify the suppression of the private activity. This is from http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sat Mar 10 19:15:32 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:15:32 -0500 Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... Message-ID: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> I wanted to share with members of the list details of the annual Cyber Dialogue that will be taking place next week in Toronto. http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/ The aim of the annual Cyber Dialogue (presented by the Canada Centre for Global Security Studies at the Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto) is to convene an influential mix of global leaders from government, civil society, academia and private enterprise to participate in a series of facilitated public plenary conversations and working groups around cyberspace security and governance. The second annual Cyber Dialogue forum takes place March 18-19 2012 in Toronto, Canada. Building upon last year's successful dialogue - Securing the Cyber Commons? - this year's Cyber Dialogue will address the question: "What is Stewardship in Cyberspace" Conference Agenda - http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/agenda/ Conference Readings - http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/readings/ Stewardship is widely defined as an ethic of responsible behavior and management of resources, typically in mixed or common pooled settings such as the environment. Cyberspace is increasingly seen as one of these mixed or common pool resources, which raises the question: What does it mean to be a “steward of cyberspace” as a government, a government’s armed forces, a company, an NGO, a social movement, an engineer, a hacktivist, or a citizen? How should these actors behave in cyberspace? Do they have different roles as stewards? What should they do or not do? Where are the gaps? What is an appropriate balance? Do we need stewardship in cyberspace at all? And how does stewardship relate to strategy in cyberspace? To explore stewardship and how it relates to cyberspace we have commissioned a special paper series with contributions from thought leaders in the field. Christopher Bronk – A Governance Switchboard: Scalability Issues in International Cyber Policymaking http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Bronk.pdf Franklyn Griffiths – Stewardship as Concept and Practice in an Arctic Context http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Griffiths.pdf Melissa E Hathaway and John E. Savage – Stewardship of Cyberspace: Duties for Internet Service Providers http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_hathaway-savage.pdf James Andrew Lewis – Stewardship, Security, and Cyberspace http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Lewis.pdf Milton Mueller – Stewardship and the Management of Internet Protocol Addresses http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Sat Mar 10 20:28:20 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:28:20 +0000 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Michael and Matthias Both of you are not that close to the context, and thus may not understand what is really going on here. The governments' (USG's, on behalf of the GAC) attempt to insert "public interest" language into the IANA contract is an extremely hostile threat to freedom and to multistakeholder policy making. The object of the "public interest" standard is to give basically any government, or any group of governments, the ability to object to and veto any new top level domain addition they don't like. It also gives the trademark lobby a chance to lobby NTIA against any new domains they don't like - even if they meet all of ICANN's stated criteria and policies. ICANN's original "morality and public order" objection process was an attempt to tie new TLD vetos to established international law. The GAC, led by an insistent US government (and supported by such "progressive" democracies as India) rejected a law-based process and also rejected an attempt to reach a compromise consensus by participating on equal terms with civil society and the private sector in the policy making process. What they want, instead, is the ability to unilaterally object to anything they don't like. It could be .gay, it could be .xxx, it could be ANYTHING. That is they point. They want a blank check, they want an "I know it when I see it" kind of standard. They don't want to be bound by law, because they know there are international human rights standards that make it illegal for some countries to suppress expression unless it's actually illegal. The other source of the "public interest" standard is the trademark lobby, which really wants there to be no new gTLDs at all. Finding themselves unable to even pretend to find consensus on that, they would like to introduce a circuit-breaker into the new gTLD approval process. They want, in other words, to add a new layer of politicization to what is supposed to be a mechanical process by which IANA simply ascertains that a new gTLD approved by ICANN actually was approved by ICANN. Instead of that, IANA conducting a public interest test would allow all kinds of quiet, insider lobbying to go on in an attempt to block a TLD. Don't be fooled. It takes more than invoking the words "public interest" to do things that are actually in the public interest. From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of michael gurstein Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:17 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: RE: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal I think from a civil society perspective the "formal" use of the terminology of a "global public interest" is enormously important and defining, operationalizing, and "owning" this terminology should be the primary focus of civil society involvement in the IGF going forward. M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Matthias C. Kettemann Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:01 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal I have done a bit of thinking and writing about what the NTIA decision tells us about Internet Governance and the multi-stakeholder approach. In brief: Is the NTIA decision a good thing for multistakeholderbased human rights-sensitive Internet Governance? It is, if it leads to more accountability in the next application of ICANN, which is sure to follow. It isn't, if it leads to more governmental oversight in defining the global public interest vis-a-vis the web. For more details, see http://goo.gl/d5GI8 Cheers Matthias Am 10.03.2012 22:32, schrieb Karl Auerbach: On 03/10/2012 11:12 AM, michael gurstein wrote: Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, and a definition for "the global public interest". Might I suggest the following as a starting point? + Every person shall be free to use the Internet in any way that is privately beneficial without being publicly detrimental. - The burden of demonstrating public detriment shall be on those who wish to prevent the private use. - Such a demonstration shall require clear and convincing evidence of public detriment. - The public detriment must be of such degree and extent as to justify the suppression of the private activity. This is from http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Sat Mar 10 20:29:38 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:29:38 +0000 Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... In-Reply-To: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> References: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> For those interested, I was invited to contribute a paper on some aspect of stewardship, and chose IP addressing. http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf --MM From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 7:16 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... I wanted to share with members of the list details of the annual Cyber Dialogue that will be taking place next week in Toronto. http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/ The aim of the annual Cyber Dialogue (presented by the Canada Centre for Global Security Studies at the Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto) is to convene an influential mix of global leaders from government, civil society, academia and private enterprise to participate in a series of facilitated public plenary conversations and working groups around cyberspace security and governance. The second annual Cyber Dialogue forum takes place March 18-19 2012 in Toronto, Canada. Building upon last year's successful dialogue - Securing the Cyber Commons? - this year's Cyber Dialogue will address the question: "What is Stewardship in Cyberspace" Conference Agenda - http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/agenda/ Conference Readings - http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/readings/ Stewardship is widely defined as an ethic of responsible behavior and management of resources, typically in mixed or common pooled settings such as the environment. Cyberspace is increasingly seen as one of these mixed or common pool resources, which raises the question: What does it mean to be a “steward of cyberspace” as a government, a government’s armed forces, a company, an NGO, a social movement, an engineer, a hacktivist, or a citizen? How should these actors behave in cyberspace? Do they have different roles as stewards? What should they do or not do? Where are the gaps? What is an appropriate balance? Do we need stewardship in cyberspace at all? And how does stewardship relate to strategy in cyberspace? To explore stewardship and how it relates to cyberspace we have commissioned a special paper series with contributions from thought leaders in the field. Christopher Bronk – A Governance Switchboard: Scalability Issues in International Cyber Policymaking http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Bronk.pdf Franklyn Griffiths – Stewardship as Concept and Practice in an Arctic Context http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Griffiths.pdf Melissa E Hathaway and John E. Savage – Stewardship of Cyberspace: Duties for Internet Service Providers http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_hathaway-savage.pdf James Andrew Lewis – Stewardship, Security, and Cyberspace http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Lewis.pdf Milton Mueller – Stewardship and the Management of Internet Protocol Addresses http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Sat Mar 10 20:46:14 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:46:14 +0000 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <2A301F0EBA154D4BA260EA8D6877047E@UserVAIO> References: <25A2AF1D-3BB3-452E-A0A1-CC30247E48CC@privaterra.org> <2A301F0EBA154D4BA260EA8D6877047E@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC85C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> > > Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature > of, and a definition for "the global public interest". > Count me out of that session. As we've learned from broadcasting regulation, the public interest is an inherently imprecise term; seductive to self-styled progressive, invoking it does not improve regulation or oversight in the slightest. At best, one can tie it to other concepts and standards which are susceptible to actual measurement, such as "promoting competition" or "efficiency" or redistributive justice. At worst, it becomes an arbitrary flag one can use to wrap around any prejudice one likes. Don't like what Gurstein says? Claim that his words harm the public interest. If enough people agree with you, they will shut him up. Of course, the public interest just happens to coincide with the interest of the powerful censors, monopolies, cartels, political coalitions, protected groups, etc. Playing this old game, "dress up the private interest as public interest" is not a good use of our time. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 20:49:16 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:49:16 -0800 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <660C8F7964BF4536931DAF17ADF54310@UserVAIO> Milton, I don't disagree with anything that you written, and I don't see how there is a conflict between my observation and yours. M -----Original Message----- From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:28 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein Subject: RE: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal Michael and Matthias Both of you are not that close to the context, and thus may not understand what is really going on here. The governments' (USG's, on behalf of the GAC) attempt to insert "public interest" language into the IANA contract is an extremely hostile threat to freedom and to multistakeholder policy making. The object of the "public interest" standard is to give basically any government, or any group of governments, the ability to object to and veto any new top level domain addition they don't like. It also gives the trademark lobby a chance to lobby NTIA against any new domains they don't like - even if they meet all of ICANN's stated criteria and policies. ICANN's original "morality and public order" objection process was an attempt to tie new TLD vetos to established international law. The GAC, led by an insistent US government (and supported by such "progressive" democracies as India) rejected a law-based process and also rejected an attempt to reach a compromise consensus by participating on equal terms with civil society and the private sector in the policy making process. What they want, instead, is the ability to unilaterally object to anything they don't like. It could be .gay, it could be .xxx, it could be ANYTHING. That is they point. They want a blank check, they want an "I know it when I see it" kind of standard. They don't want to be bound by law, because they know there are international human rights standards that make it illegal for some countries to suppress expression unless it's actually illegal. The other source of the "public interest" standard is the trademark lobby, which really wants there to be no new gTLDs at all. Finding themselves unable to even pretend to find consensus on that, they would like to introduce a circuit-breaker into the new gTLD approval process. They want, in other words, to add a new layer of politicization to what is supposed to be a mechanical process by which IANA simply ascertains that a new gTLD approved by ICANN actually was approved by ICANN. Instead of that, IANA conducting a public interest test would allow all kinds of quiet, insider lobbying to go on in an attempt to block a TLD. Don't be fooled. It takes more than invoking the words "public interest" to do things that are actually in the public interest. From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of michael gurstein Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:17 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: RE: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal I think from a civil society perspective the "formal" use of the terminology of a "global public interest" is enormously important and defining, operationalizing, and "owning" this terminology should be the primary focus of civil society involvement in the IGF going forward. M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Matthias C. Kettemann Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:01 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal I have done a bit of thinking and writing about what the NTIA decision tells us about Internet Governance and the multi-stakeholder approach. In brief: Is the NTIA decision a good thing for multistakeholderbased human rights-sensitive Internet Governance? It is, if it leads to more accountability in the next application of ICANN, which is sure to follow. It isn't, if it leads to more governmental oversight in defining the global public interest vis-a-vis the web. For more details, see http://goo.gl/d5GI8 Cheers Matthias Am 10.03.2012 22:32, schrieb Karl Auerbach: On 03/10/2012 11:12 AM, michael gurstein wrote: Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, and a definition for "the global public interest". Might I suggest the following as a starting point? + Every person shall be free to use the Internet in any way that is privately beneficial without being publicly detrimental. - The burden of demonstrating public detriment shall be on those who wish to prevent the private use. - Such a demonstration shall require clear and convincing evidence of public detriment. - The public detriment must be of such degree and extent as to justify the suppression of the private activity. This is from http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"With the view of developing communications between peoples by the efficient operation of the (email) postal services, and to contributing to the attainment of the noble aims of international collaboration in the cultural, social and economic" (Preamble to the Constitution of the Universal Postal Union)... as the beginnings of a process of defining the global public interest in Internet Governance. M -----Original Message----- From: michael gurstein [mailto:recent:gurstein at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:17 PM To: 'governance at lists.igcaucus.org' Subject: RE: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal I think from a civil society perspective the "formal" use of the terminology of a "global public interest" is enormously important and defining, operationalizing, and "owning" this terminology should be the primary focus of civil society involvement in the IGF going forward. M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Matthias C. Kettemann Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:01 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal I have done a bit of thinking and writing about what the NTIA decision tells us about Internet Governance and the multi-stakeholder approach. In brief: Is the NTIA decision a good thing for multistakeholderbased human rights-sensitive Internet Governance? It is, if it leads to more accountability in the next application of ICANN, which is sure to follow. It isn't, if it leads to more governmental oversight in defining the global public interest vis-a-vis the web. For more details, see http://goo.gl/d5GI8 Cheers Matthias Am 10.03.2012 22:32, schrieb Karl Auerbach: On 03/10/2012 11:12 AM, michael gurstein wrote: Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, and a definition for "the global public interest". Might I suggest the following as a starting point? + Every person shall be free to use the Internet in any way that is privately beneficial without being publicly detrimental. - The burden of demonstrating public detriment shall be on those who wish to prevent the private use. - Such a demonstration shall require clear and convincing evidence of public detriment. - The public detriment must be of such degree and extent as to justify the suppression of the private activity. This is from http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Sat Mar 10 21:38:03 2012 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:38:03 +1100 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: Here's my Sunday afternoon take on this. Firstly, I am glad to see that the Internet is still working whatever NTIA or ICANN does or has done. That puts this in its perspective. Secondly, all of this raises higher questions of internet governance. NTIA is doing a fairly typical USG global politics reaction here - do it our way or else. Their right to do so is actually very questionable, and in reality it is because there is a vacuum in internet governance and trust of any multistakeholder body that this is even an issue at all. Whether you interpret Internet history to read that USG has some sort of right to unilaterally judge on such issues or not, it's absolutely certain that such a unilateral right has become obsolete with a global internet and we need to look at moving the NTIA function elsewhere, not the IANA functions. That can only be done through a representative global body. Now neither NTIA or ICANN wants that to be ITU and that isnt going to happen. So we can put that old fear to bed. But we still have to come up with a global structure that can have some authority here. To me the possibilities lie with a strengthening of Internet Governance Forum, currently not able to much at all because of a lack of funding. You will recall that IGF was initially opposed by both ICANN and ISOC - in latter days they have seen something of its merits, but despite their joint wealths their contributions to IGF are a pittance. Perhaps if both ISOC and ICANN committed say 10% of what they currently spend on internal staff benefits and fares to meetings for their closest supporters to provide IGF with a decent secretariat and funding for civil society and others who need support to attend meetings, the power and bargaining position of NTIA to rule on such issues might be replaced by a truly global body. But if we continue with the myth that the internet community knows best, and is beholden to no one, I'm afraid that NTIA will fill the Internet governance gap. I don't see whose interests that serves. Ian Peter From: "Matthias C. Kettemann" Reply-To: , "Matthias C. Kettemann" Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:01:17 +0100 To: Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal I have done a bit of thinking and writing about what the NTIA decision tells us about Internet Governance and the multi-stakeholder approach. In brief: Is the NTIA decision a good thing for multistakeholderbased human rights-sensitive Internet Governance? It is, if it leads to more accountability in the next application of ICANN, which is sure to follow. It isn't, if it leads to more governmental oversight in defining the global public interest vis-a-vis the web. For more details, see http://goo.gl/d5GI8 Cheers Matthias Am 10.03.2012 22:32, schrieb Karl Auerbach: > > On 03/10/2012 11:12 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > > >> >> Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of, >> and a definition for "the global public interest". >> > > > Might I suggest the following as a starting point? > > + Every person shall be free to use the Internet in any way > that is privately beneficial without being publicly > detrimental. > > - The burden of demonstrating public detriment shall > be on those who wish to prevent the private use. > > - Such a demonstration shall require clear and > convincing evidence of public detriment. > > - The public detriment must be of such degree and extent > as to justify the suppression of the private activity. > > This is from http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html > > --karl-- > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dogwallah at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 04:13:14 2012 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:13:14 +0000 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: Hi Ian, On 3/11/12, Ian Peter wrote: > Here's my Sunday afternoon take on this. > > Firstly, I am glad to see that the Internet is still working whatever NTIA > or ICANN does or has done. That puts this in its perspective. > > Secondly, all of this raises higher questions of internet governance. > > NTIA is doing a fairly typical USG global politics reaction here - do it our > way or else. Their right to do so is actually very questionable, and in > reality it is because there is a vacuum in internet governance and trust of > any multistakeholder body that this is even an issue at all. > > Whether you interpret Internet history to read that USG has some sort of > right to unilaterally judge on such issues or not, it's absolutely certain > that such a unilateral right has become obsolete with a global internet and > we need to look at moving the NTIA function elsewhere, not the IANA > functions. > > That can only be done through a representative global body. Do you reject the idea that a fully internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfil this oversight function? Now neither NTIA > or ICANN wants that to be ITU and that isnt going to happen. So we can put > that old fear to bed. But we still have to come up with a global structure > that can have some authority here. > > To me the possibilities lie with a strengthening of Internet Governance > Forum, currently not able to much at all because of a lack of funding. You > will recall that IGF was initially opposed by both ICANN and ISOC - in > latter days they have seen something of its merits, but despite their joint > wealths their contributions to IGF are a pittance. Perhaps if both ISOC and > ICANN committed say 10% of what they currently spend on internal staff > benefits and fares to meetings for their closest supporters to provide IGF > with a decent secretariat and funding for civil society and others who need > support to attend meetings, the power and bargaining position of NTIA to > rule on such issues might be replaced by a truly global body. and pigs MIGHT fly! -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Sun Mar 11 09:49:27 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:49:27 -0300 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> Message-ID: <4F5CAD67.8060302@cafonso.ca> McTim, most of us do not "reject the idea that a fully internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfil this oversight function". But with yet another blunt demonstration that the USG has the helm and will not let go, I think this nice idea is less prone to become reality than pigs flying. --c.a. On 03/11/2012 05:13 AM, McTim wrote: > Do you reject the idea that a fully internationalised, representative > ICANN Board can fulfil this oversight function? -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 10:33:27 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:33:27 -0700 Subject: [governance] FW: [IP] India drops plans for government control of Internet Message-ID: <6CA1EF1DB2744D04893F989237703012@UserVAIO> -----Original Message----- From: Dave Farber [mailto:dave at farber.net] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:26 AM To: ip Subject: [IP] India drops plans for government control of Internet ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lauren Weinstein Date: Saturday, March 10, 2012 Subject: [ NNSquad ] India drops plans for government control of Internet To: nnsquad at nnsquad.org India drops plans for government control of Internet http://j.mp/xcy8RA (.nxt) "India has dropped its plans to create a new United Nations body that would oversee the Internet, with the country's foremost Internet governance voice telling .Nxt it was "not well thought out"." - - - --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein (lauren at vortex.com): http://www.vortex.com/lauren Archives | Modify Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now !DSPAM:2676,4f5ca8a425621232111009! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Sun Mar 11 10:45:29 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:45:29 +0200 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> On 11.03.2012, at 03:28, Milton L Mueller wrote: > The object of the “public interest” standard is to give basically any government, or any group of governments, the ability to object to and veto any new top level domain addition they don’t like. It also gives the trademark lobby a chance to lobby NTIA against any new domains they don’t like – even if they meet all of ICANN’s stated criteria and policies. My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the Government(s), or ICANN (staff). For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN to behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation by the ICANNs track record... Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Afonso wrote: > McTim, most of us do not "reject the idea that a fully > internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfil this oversight > function". But with yet another blunt demonstration that the USG has the > helm and will not let go, That's right, they don't appear to be able to let go, even if it is probably the most enlightened US administration one is likely to get in terms of Internet-y matters. I think the "ICANN floating free" idea is probably the most palatable one for them, and as a matter of real- politick, one we could push for! -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Sun Mar 11 11:28:30 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:28:30 -0600 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <4F5CAD67.8060302@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: I think that once ICANN begins to take its obligations under the IOC seriously they will find that become ever more free "floating". And while there has been some motion in that direction, there is a long long way to go. As for the IANA contact, it does seem like they thought they were above taking the requirements of the tender seriously - sort of ironic when you look at how strictly they are marshaling the new gTLD applications. So they get to try again, and without having to forfeit their 185 kUSD application fee and waiting an undetermined amount of time. Maybe they will take it seriously this time. It could happen. And who knows, now that the world knows that ICANN its not a default winner, others may have the timerity to apply. And as a bonus the new CEO gets to lead the effort. All in all I think it is a great result. Avri McTim wrote: >On 3/11/12, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >> McTim, most of us do not "reject the idea that a fully >> internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfil this >oversight >> function". But with yet another blunt demonstration that the USG has >the >> helm and will not let go, > >That's right, they don't appear to be able to let go, even if it is >probably the most enlightened US administration one is likely to get >in terms of Internet-y matters. I think the "ICANN floating free" >idea is probably the most palatable one for them, and as a matter of >real- politick, one we could push for! > >-- >Cheers, > >McTim >"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at ella.com Sun Mar 11 11:35:32 2012 From: avri at ella.com (Avri Doria) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:35:32 -0600 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <4F5CAD67.8060302@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <0dec1069-ae14-4fda-9954-94232c9f7260@email.android.com> Oops. I meant AOC. ICANN already takes the ioc seriously too seriously. Damn auto correct. Avri Doria wrote: >I think that once ICANN begins to take its obligations under the IOC >seriously they will find that become ever more free "floating". And >while there has been some motion in that direction, there is a long >long way to go. > >As for the IANA contact, it does seem like they thought they were above >taking the requirements of the tender seriously - sort of ironic when >you look at how strictly they are marshaling the new gTLD applications. >So they get to try again, and without having to forfeit their 185 kUSD >application fee and waiting an undetermined amount of time. Maybe they >will take it seriously this time. It could happen. And who knows, now >that the world knows that ICANN its not a default winner, others may >have the timerity to apply. > >And as a bonus the new CEO gets to lead the effort. > >All in all I think it is a great result. > >Avri > >McTim wrote: > >>On 3/11/12, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >>> McTim, most of us do not "reject the idea that a fully >>> internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfil this >>oversight >>> function". But with yet another blunt demonstration that the USG has >>the >>> helm and will not let go, >> >>That's right, they don't appear to be able to let go, even if it is >>probably the most enlightened US administration one is likely to get >>in terms of Internet-y matters. I think the "ICANN floating free" >>idea is probably the most palatable one for them, and as a matter of >>real- politick, one we could push for! >> >>-- >>Cheers, >> >>McTim >>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >>route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ias_pk at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 11:48:23 2012 From: ias_pk at yahoo.com (Imran Ahmed Shah) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <4F5CAD67.8060302@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <1331480903.69605.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> What do you think that ICANN is the only and last resort who can perform IANA Functions, even if they could not fulfill the major requirements of the RFP? It has become the backbone of the Internet after the Cancellation of RFP. We have also discussed on another thread about the expected consequences of the RFP of IANA Functions. Without assurance of contract extension, ICANN could not launch new gTLD program.This action also has created Monopolistic environment/ atmosphere; at the time when (at the other side) Google is capturing the world without any interference (to develop a Google World). There will be two world leaders, ICANN & Google to rule on the Internet Community Sphere. I also suggest that instead of single GAC, there should be GAC+NGAC (governmental & non-governmental Advisory Committees) to balance between Governmental Governed Internet net and Non-Governmental (Public) Internet. Thanks Imran Ahmed Shah ________________________________ From: McTim To: Carlos A. Afonso Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Ian Peter Sent: Sunday, 11 March 2012, 20:05 Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal >On 3/11/12, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >> McTim, most of us do not "reject the idea that a fully >> internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfil this oversight >> function". But with yet another blunt demonstration that the USG has the >> helm and will not let go, > >That's right, they don't appear to be able to let go, even if it is >probably the most enlightened US administration one is likely to get >in terms of Internet-y matters.  I think the "ICANN floating free" >idea is probably the most palatable one for them, and as a matter of >real- politick, one we could push for! > >-- >Cheers, > >McTim >"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel > > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: >    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dogwallah at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 12:38:45 2012 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:38:45 +0000 Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On 3/11/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: > For those interested, I was invited to contribute a paper on some aspect of > stewardship, and chose IP addressing. > http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf a few factual innaccuracies: "The NRO’s status as the ASO in ICANN’s cor- porate governance structure allows the RIRs’ chief executives to appoint people directly to the ICANN board, and also allows it to place people on ICANN’s nominating committee," is incorrect, it's the ASO AC that actually chooses see: http://aso.icann.org/people/icann-board-elections/2012-elections/ and: "While some of the RIRs still have some available supplies" seems to indicate that some RIRs do not. I don't think this is the case. and: 'The ASO of ICANN is nothing more than the NRO, and the NRO is nothing more than a com- bination of the staff and CEOs of the RIRs.' This is not true either. The ASO AC are elected folk from the RIR communities. They make the decisions, the NRO act as the secretariat to support them. and: "With the Internet well established as the dominant data communications protocol and a globalized institutional framework in place (ICANN) there is no longer any political reason to delegate address allocation to regions. " There is, folks in different regions still want to have regional policies even after v4 depletion. Come to the Gambia in May and tell the AfriNIC Policy Development Working Group that we will be obsolete after v6 deployment, I'm sure most would disagree. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Sun Mar 11 12:53:03 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:53:03 -0300 Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... In-Reply-To: References: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <4F5CD86F.8050100@cafonso.ca> OK, let us see MM's response, but for my part McT clarified the ASO-NRO logic. After creation of NRO, I wondered why ASO was still in place, now I see there a close intertwining. --c.a. On 03/11/2012 01:38 PM, McTim wrote: > On 3/11/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: >> For those interested, I was invited to contribute a paper on some aspect of >> stewardship, and chose IP addressing. >> http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf > > a few factual innaccuracies: > > "The NRO’s status as the ASO in ICANN’s cor- > porate governance structure allows the RIRs’ > chief executives to appoint people directly to > the ICANN board, and also allows it to place > people on ICANN’s nominating committee," > > > is incorrect, it's the ASO AC that actually chooses see: > > http://aso.icann.org/people/icann-board-elections/2012-elections/ > > and: > > "While some of the RIRs > still have some available supplies" > > seems to indicate that some RIRs do not. I don't think this is the case. > > and: > > 'The ASO of ICANN is nothing more than the > NRO, and the NRO is nothing more than a com- > bination of the staff and CEOs of the RIRs.' > > This is not true either. The ASO AC are elected folk from the RIR > communities. They make the decisions, the NRO act as the secretariat > to support them. > > and: > > "With the Internet well established as the > dominant data communications protocol and > a globalized institutional framework in place > (ICANN) there is no longer any political reason > to delegate address allocation to regions. " > > There is, folks in different regions still want to have regional > policies even after v4 depletion. > > Come to the Gambia in May and tell the AfriNIC Policy Development > Working Group that we will be obsolete after v6 deployment, I'm sure > most would disagree. > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jefsey at jefsey.com Sun Mar 11 13:26:28 2012 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (JFC Morfin) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:26:28 +0100 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <1331480903.69605.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com > References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <4F5CAD67.8060302@cafonso.ca> <1331480903.69605.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 16:48 11/03/2012, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: >What do you think that ICANN is the only and last resort who can >perform IANA Functions, even if they could not fulfill the major >requirements of the RFP? It has become the backbone of the Internet >after the Cancellation of RFP. We have also discussed on another >thread about the expected consequences of the RFP of IANA Functions. >Without assurance of contract extension, ICANN could not launch new >gTLD program."urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> >This action also has created Monopolistic environment/ atmosphere; >at the time when (at the other side) Google is capturing the world >without any interference (to develop a Google World). There will be >two world leaders, ICANN & Google to rule on the Internet Community Sphere. >I also suggest that instead of single GAC, there should be GAC+NGAC >(governmental & non-governmental Advisory Committees) to balance >between Governmental Governed Internet net and Non-Governmental >(Public) Internet. Imram, there is a long time that the Internet is split among "world leaders": only one believes it can be the leader of leaders of the network of networks (ICANN) - and one believes it is (NTIA). This is not societally and architecturally viable. What is too sad is that the true leaders should be those who pay: the people (cf. Geneva Declaration of a people centric society). Unfortunately the civil society has not helped much the emergence of the people's digital community. It is true however that NGO's of any brand are by essence level with Government's in term of Internet Use: they belong to the structures' layer. Also, ICANN plaid well with a limited amount of money to attract the @large fringe that can talk but not write code. As IUsers (Internet intelligent use users) we only need to be helped coordinating our own MDRS (meta-data registry multilingual distributed reference system) and specifying for the FLOSS community the software extensions we need so we may live and use the whole digital ecosystem in peace. This is basically what the "Internet+" is: the free and protected use layer above the "Internet legacy architecture". Since, IGF was not interested, civil society ignored us and merchants' techies opposed us, we found another way. We entered the IETF as contributing Internet users (IUCG), we made validated by Vint Cerf (as the Google Chair of the IETF/WG/IDNAbis) and other leaders, the true Internet architecture (RFC 761, 1958, 3439) through the IDNA2008 example. We made sure the IESG and IAB understood well, and we leave Google+/Public DNS to take, as a result, the "structured bodies layer" leadership, you mention. So when Google+ has proven to FLOSS people the viability of our extended reading of the old Internet architecture and 6000 RFCs, they will find our Interplus+ documentation, and possibly our software prototypes if they take and talk time enough. Whatever, ICANN, consortia (Google leads the Unicode consortium) and governments do and NGO do not do, the Internet technology, we now freed from them (through the subsidiarity virus), will win because TCP/IP is deployed so much that they cannot fully change it, even with DNSSEC, IPv6 mismanagement, and opposition to IPSec. Take care ! jfc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4F5CD86F.8050100@cafonso.ca> References: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <4F5CD86F.8050100@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: Thanks Robert. Thank you Milton, I look forward to reading your paper. Would people be interested in writing a Statement on Cyber Security? I think it would be useful to have a statement on Cyber Security by the IGC? What are your thoughts? On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > OK, let us see MM's response, but for my part McT clarified the ASO-NRO > logic. After creation of NRO, I wondered why ASO was still in place, now I > see there a close intertwining. > > --c.a. > > > On 03/11/2012 01:38 PM, McTim wrote: > >> On 3/11/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: >> >>> For those interested, I was invited to contribute a paper on some aspect >>> of >>> stewardship, and chose IP addressing. >>> http://www.cyberdialogue.**citizenlab.org/wp-content/** >>> uploads/2012/2012papers/**CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf >>> >> >> a few factual innaccuracies: >> >> "The NRO’s status as the ASO in ICANN’s cor- >> porate governance structure allows the RIRs’ >> chief executives to appoint people directly to >> the ICANN board, and also allows it to place >> people on ICANN’s nominating committee," >> >> >> is incorrect, it's the ASO AC that actually chooses see: >> >> http://aso.icann.org/people/**icann-board-elections/2012-**elections/ >> >> and: >> >> "While some of the RIRs >> still have some available supplies" >> >> seems to indicate that some RIRs do not. I don't think this is the case. >> >> and: >> >> 'The ASO of ICANN is nothing more than the >> NRO, and the NRO is nothing more than a com- >> bination of the staff and CEOs of the RIRs.' >> >> This is not true either. The ASO AC are elected folk from the RIR >> communities. They make the decisions, the NRO act as the secretariat >> to support them. >> >> and: >> >> "With the Internet well established as the >> dominant data communications protocol and >> a globalized institutional framework in place >> (ICANN) there is no longer any political reason >> to delegate address allocation to regions. " >> >> There is, folks in different regions still want to have regional >> policies even after v4 depletion. >> >> Come to the Gambia in May and tell the AfriNIC Policy Development >> Working Group that we will be obsolete after v6 deployment, I'm sure >> most would disagree. >> >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Sun Mar 11 14:28:17 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:28:17 +0000 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> And the governments’ track record? From: Daniel Kalchev [mailto:daniel at digsys.bg] My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the Government(s), or ICANN (staff). For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN to behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation by the ICANNs track record... Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If possible, I suggest IGC CS to establish a WG. ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: ICANN News Alert >To: ias_pk at yahoo.com >Sent: Sunday, 11 March 2012, 23:55 >Subject: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms > >ICANN News Alert > >http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11mar12-en.htm > >________________________________ > >ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms > >11 March 2012 > >The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is seeking expressions of interest to serve on a committee of independent experts to review ICANN's Accountability Mechanisms. > >The Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT), organized under the Affirmation of Commitments, recommended that ICANN convene a group of experts to review ICANN's Reconsideration and Independent Review Processes, such as the costs and spectrum of Board decisions subject to review. The ATRT also suggested that the group of experts review additional proposed mechanisms suggested in 2009 by ICANN's President's Strategy Committee. Finally, the ATRT called for a review of the standards for bringing a Request for Reconsideration. > >Based on the nature of review mechanisms, as well as the separate ATRT recommendations relating to the Ombudsman's office and its interaction with the Board, it is understood that this group of independent experts shall focus on a review of the Reconsideration process and the Independent Review process. > >Further information on the accountability mechanisms subject to review and proposed qualifications for service on the group of independent experts is available here http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/mechanisms-experts-eoi-11mar12-en.htm. > > > >This message was sent to ias_pk at yahoo.com from: >ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way >Suite 330 >| Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 > >Manage Your Subscription: >http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=10782720&l=6333&s=GVKU&m=876640&c=165637 > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at arin.net Sun Mar 11 15:19:43 2012 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:19:43 +0000 Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <54BD0772-8061-47E5-873E-55D8B252CB4F@corp.arin.net> > http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/ > > The aim of the annual Cyber Dialogue (presented by the Canada Centre for Global Security Studies at the Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto) is to convene an influential mix of global leaders from government, civil society, academia and private enterprise to participate in a series of facilitated public plenary conversations and working groups around cyberspace security and governance. > > The second annual Cyber Dialogue forum takes place March 18-19 2012 in Toronto, Canada. Building upon last year's successful dialogue - Securing the Cyber Commons? - this year's Cyber Dialogue will address the question: "What is Stewardship in Cyberspace" > > Conference Agenda - http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/agenda/ Robert - This appears to be an excellent topic and agenda for discussion, and while I cannot attend, I do wish the participants a productive dialogue on the issues surrounding Stewardship in Cyberspace. > Conference Readings - http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/readings/ > ... > Milton Mueller – Stewardship and the Management of Internet Protocol Addresses > http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012papers/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf It is unfortunate that this is the only paper regarding Stewardship and the management of Internet Protocol addresses, as this is indeed a very important discussion and deserves a thorough examination. Alas, Mr. Mueller's paper contains several significant omissions and interesting assertions that only detract from serious consideration of this topic. As I will not be in attendance, I will only briefly summarize them here for those interested in such matters: 1) Mr. Mueller notes that the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) have served as the long-standard stewards of Internet number resources but identifies them only as "private-sector nonprofits". In fact, this omits one of the most important aspects of the RIRs with respect to stewardship: the fact that each RIR is a *membership-based* organizations which has as members those users of address space (ISPs, hosting companies, universities, large and small businesses, non-profits and more) which are actually affected by the policies which govern Internet address space. In each region, these members participate in the governance election and in the policy development process (although the policy development process in each region is also open to any and all interested parties, even those who are not members) Mr. Mueller's depiction of RIR's as consisting as nothing but leaders and staff completely overlooks the importance of the registries as membership organizations and thus also being inclusive by thousands of organizations collectively electing RIR leadership. Those who actually use and rely on Internet address space have the opportunity elect leadership which focus on the issues that matter most to their success, including changes to the system itself if such proves necessary. It would be great to have discussion of these practices and why they help protect stewardship in cyberspace, but the only significant work I am aware of in this area is David Souter's 2009 Council of Europe study into participation practices for Internet governance entities - Understanding the nature of these practices is essential to understanding how stewardship is instantiated into the present Internet governance institutions, including by the use of membership organizations in the RIR system. 2) In the process of supporting his thesis, Mr. Mueller makes assertions which are both unsupported and indeed intentionally overlooking facts in evidence. In particular, Mr. Mueller makes the following assertions: o "The point is that the RIR/NRO regime is structurally incapable of making them. The entities in charge of the current regime of address governance — the RIRs themselves — have no interest in undermining their authority, revenues, and status by implementing such reforms." o "The ASO of ICANN is nothing more than the NRO, and the NRO is nothing more than a combination of the staff and CEOs of the RIRs. And why would the RIRs initiate or institute reforms that would put themselves out of business?" While Milton notes that the actual need and merit behind any hypothetical 'reforms' lies beyond the scope of his paper, his claims that proposals for changes to the RIR system cannot be considered within the system are false. In fact, there has already been significant changes to the Internet number registry system over time, including the formation and recognition LACNIC and AfriNIC (when community in those regions expressed the desire and ability to support these operations with more closely aligned operational and governance structures), as well as very act of inclusion of the Internet number registry system into ICANN (as the ASO) during ICANN's formation. These were significant structural changes to the nature of the registry system, and yet were adopted, despite their repercussions in terms of authority or status, precisely because they improved the governance of Internet number resources. Mr. Mueller is well aware of this history, but fails to include any of it in his consideration of the ability of the RIR system to consider and adopt structural change. While the Regional Internet Registry system has already proven its ability to be good stewards and make significant changes to improve governance, it is recognized that some might want to engage in dialogue outside the current RIR system regarding structural change. While I am convinced of the ability within the current system (as supported by the very large community of RIR members who are indeed those affected by such changes) to provide fair consideration of the merits of proposed "reforms", ARIN is already on record as willing and able to participate in discussions of structural change in nearly any forum (including the ICANN or Internet Governance Forum) where the merits can be seriously considered - "ARIN would welcome an opportunity to participate in any and all discussions regarding how to best evolve the Internet number registry system, and would consider ICANN instrumental in leading such discussions in forums globally as appropriate." Unfortunately, this fact also has been pointed out to Mr. Milton on several occasions (e.g. on ARIN's public policy mailing list , on Milton's own blog , during his moderated GIGANET panel ) but apparently has been omitted as unreconcilable with his proposed conclusion: "But our capacity to enact reforms adapting to the new situation is paralyzed by the pre-existing situation, which puts all authority in the hands of regional registries with a vested interest in maintaining the current structure." As noted earlier, the RIR's are organizations which are committed to serving the needs of their members (those who actually use and rely on IP addresses) As such, ARIN remains willing and able to participate in any discussion regarding the merits of any proposed "reforms" to structure of the Internet number registry system, and I hope that Mr. Mueller's paper doesn't preclude serious discussion about the actual nature of stewardship today in the management of IP addresses. Best wishes on your conference! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Sun Mar 11 15:58:50 2012 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 06:58:50 +1100 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5CAD67.8060302@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: Well, I don't reject it but I am not sure it is the best resolution. ICANN is morphing into a domainer industry body, with token representation of other stakeholders to indicate that it is being consultative. I would not like such an organisation to be making policy decisions for the Internet. Far better that there is external oversight if this is the direction - in that case replacing NTIA oversight with something more like a multistakeholder IGF would be better than trying to make ICANN something it is not and doesn't want to be. Ian > From: "Carlos A. Afonso" > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:49:27 -0300 > To: , McTim > Cc: Ian Peter > Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements"for > IANA renewal > > McTim, most of us do not "reject the idea that a fully > internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfil this oversight > function". But with yet another blunt demonstration that the USG has the > helm and will not let go, I think this nice idea is less prone to become > reality than pigs flying. > > --c.a. > > On 03/11/2012 05:13 AM, McTim wrote: >> Do you reject the idea that a fully internationalised, representative >> ICANN Board can fulfil this oversight function? -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 16:05:59 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:05:59 +1200 Subject: [governance] Fw: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms In-Reply-To: <1331492569.15625.YahooMailNeo@web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <0.0.15.577.1CCFFB8780AD9B8.0@smtp7.icpbounce.com> <1331492569.15625.YahooMailNeo@web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If there are enough people who wish to volunteer to coordinate this, that would be great. My disclosure is that I am an ALAC member within the At Large community within ICANN and represent the APRALO region into the ALAC. I am in Costa Rica for the ICANN 43. I am willing to participate in this working group and also acknowledge that there may be conflicts which may require me to stand down etc. However this should not limit nor discourage others from participating. In any event, a consensus view should be encouraged from within the community before the publication of a position or statement. Warm Regards from San Jose, Costa Rica, On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: > We can particiapte to review Accountability Mechanisms, however, can an > organization or a WG take this role to review? > If possible, I suggest IGC CS to establish a WG. > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* ICANN News Alert > *To:* ias_pk at yahoo.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 11 March 2012, 23:55 > *Subject:* ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for > Review of Accountability Mechanisms > > ICANN News Alert > > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11mar12-en.htm > > ________________________________ > > ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms > > 11 March 2012 > > The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is seeking > expressions of interest to serve on a committee of independent experts to > review ICANN's Accountability Mechanisms. > > The Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT), organized under > the Affirmation of Commitments, recommended that ICANN convene a group of > experts to review ICANN's Reconsideration and Independent Review Processes, > such as the costs and spectrum of Board decisions subject to review. The > ATRT also suggested that the group of experts review additional proposed > mechanisms suggested in 2009 by ICANN's President's Strategy Committee. > Finally, the ATRT called for a review of the standards for bringing a > Request for Reconsideration. > > Based on the nature of review mechanisms, as well as the separate ATRT > recommendations relating to the Ombudsman's office and its interaction with > the Board, it is understood that this group of independent experts shall > focus on a review of the Reconsideration process and the Independent Review > process. > > Further information on the accountability mechanisms subject to review and > proposed qualifications for service on the group of independent experts is > available here > http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/mechanisms-experts-eoi-11mar12-en.htm > . > > > > This message was sent to ias_pk at yahoo.com from: > ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way > Suite 330 > | Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 > > Manage Your Subscription: > > http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=10782720&l=6333&s=GVKU&m=876640&c=165637 > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 16:14:38 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:14:38 +1200 Subject: [governance] ICANN 43 [Remote Streaming] Message-ID: Dear All, Warm Greetings from Costa RIca where the ICANN 43 meeting is underway. ICANN's core functions are limited to the following:- - Allocation and assignment of the three sets of unique identifiers for the internet, which are; - Domain names; - Internet Protocol addresses and Autonomous System Numbers; - Protocol port and parameter numbers; - Operation and evolution of the DNS Root Name Server System; - Coordinates Policy Development reasonably and appropriately related to these technical functions. The meeting will be from 11-16 March, 2012. It is good to see Ginger and a few others in the list here in San Jose. The link to the full meeting schedule is http://costarica43.icann.org/full-schedule Click on the session you’d be interested in and if it offers remote participation there are both low or high bandwidth options. Note this remote participation offers you full participation as you can also add your comments or ask questions in real time. ccTLD registries in the region can also follow the ccNSO meetings (Tech Day on Monday, ccNSO members meetings on Tuesday/Wednesday). The DNSSEC workshop to be held Wednesday (Thursday in most parts of the Pacific) will be a useful session to attend as well as ICANN encourages deployment of DNSSEC by all TLD registries and also to telcos/ISPs and other network operators who manage and operate their zones. Hope to see some of you online. Warm Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From presidencia at internauta.org.ar Sun Mar 11 16:22:37 2012 From: presidencia at internauta.org.ar (Presidencia Internauta) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:22:37 -0600 Subject: [governance] ICANN 43 [Remote Streaming] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Sala, I agree! it is good to see you and others that are linked to the list in the ICANN # 43! continue working in this direction ... ... participate... participate... participate ... -- *Sergio Salinas Porto Presidente Internauta Argentina Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet /CTA FLUI- Federación Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819* 2012/3/11 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> > Dear All, > > Warm Greetings from Costa RIca where the ICANN 43 meeting is underway. > ICANN's core functions are limited to the following:- > > - Allocation and assignment of the three sets of unique identifiers > for the internet, which are; > - Domain names; > - Internet Protocol addresses and Autonomous System Numbers; > - Protocol port and parameter numbers; > - Operation and evolution of the DNS Root Name Server System; > - Coordinates Policy Development reasonably and appropriately related > to these technical functions. > > > The meeting will be from 11-16 March, 2012. It is good to see Ginger and a > few others in the list here in San Jose. The link to the full meeting > schedule is > http://costarica43.icann.org/full-schedule > > Click on the session you’d be interested in and if it offers remote > participation there are both low or high bandwidth options. Note this > remote participation offers you full participation as you can also add your > comments or ask questions in real time. > > ccTLD registries in the region can also follow the ccNSO meetings (Tech > Day on Monday, ccNSO members meetings on Tuesday/Wednesday). The DNSSEC > workshop to be held Wednesday (Thursday in most parts of the Pacific) will > be a useful session to attend as well as ICANN encourages deployment of > DNSSEC by all TLD registries and also to telcos/ISPs and other network > operators who manage and operate their zones. > > Hope to see some of you online. > > Warm Regards, > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Sun Mar 11 17:16:01 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:16:01 +0200 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> About the same. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. Yet, Governments change in cycles - although it can be argued that the same (insert your favorite) sits behind the scenes no matter which 'party' rules. I have no doubt it is the same with ICANN and other power concentration bodies. The problem with this type of 'governance', where you have central body that has the power to make decisions on their own is that it conflicts with the fundamental architecture of the Internet - a network of networks. Within Internet, each network is autonomous, has it's own governing and operational structures -- no matter how small or how large that network is. In fact, the smallest network is "equal" to the largest network in "rights" over the Internet governance, for both have to peer somehow for the Internet to exist. ICANN was created with the concept that such an "organization for sharing the responsibility" will be able to handle the task, mainly because all stakeholders will be at parity and nobody will be able to point at others for whatever failure has happened… we have already seen some (mostly political and policy) failures. More are coming with the new gTLD program. Then, because ICANN grew "large" some came to the idea that it has to deal with international issues and even "infringe" on matters that are considered inter-governmental. This is not technical role. It is bound to fail and nobody can help it. Of course, there are no culprits, because of the "shared responsibility". About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing that, all other options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies and might have it split in pieces. Daniel On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > And the governments’ track record? > > From: Daniel Kalchev [mailto:daniel at digsys.bg] > > My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the Government(s), or ICANN (staff). > For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. > > So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN to behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. > > Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation by the ICANNs track record... > > Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Sun Mar 11 18:37:35 2012 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:37:35 +0000 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu>,<8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> Message-ID: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> If I may play Internet governance realpolitik analyst for a minute: The nonrenewal of IANA while a surprise to ICANN, was likely - not at all - a surprise to the EU + other OECD other governments. Reading between the 'global community' lines in the NTIA statement, it is also safe to surmise that the Indian government for sure, quite possibly rest of IBSA crowd, plus or minus China, were pre-informed/consulted as well. Because, what a coincidence, on the same day NTIA slaps ICANN upside the head, India drops its call for a new global Internet governance body, and humbly claims it was 'not well thought out.' Coincidence? I think not. Therefore: there is a broader game underway; whose contours certain folks at NTIA know well; as do certain folks in certain other national governments who are - players - too. Given the significance of the IANA function to the global economy, these players aren't playing around. ICANN will have a new and improved plan inside 6 (- 9) months, or lose the game. (My realpolitik calculus that the 6 month renewal will become 9 months, is that I seriously doubt the Obama admin will want to be talking much about - global Internet governance - September - November 2012. For some reason, I have this hunch that domestic politics and the Electoral College will be more on their minds then ; ). Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Daniel Kalchev [daniel at digsys.bg] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:16 PM To: Milton L Mueller Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michaelgurstein Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal About the same. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. Yet, Governments change in cycles - although it can be argued that the same (insert your favorite) sits behind the scenes no matter which 'party' rules. I have no doubt it is the same with ICANN and other power concentration bodies. The problem with this type of 'governance', where you have central body that has the power to make decisions on their own is that it conflicts with the fundamental architecture of the Internet - a network of networks. Within Internet, each network is autonomous, has it's own governing and operational structures -- no matter how small or how large that network is. In fact, the smallest network is "equal" to the largest network in "rights" over the Internet governance, for both have to peer somehow for the Internet to exist. ICANN was created with the concept that such an "organization for sharing the responsibility" will be able to handle the task, mainly because all stakeholders will be at parity and nobody will be able to point at others for whatever failure has happened… we have already seen some (mostly political and policy) failures. More are coming with the new gTLD program. Then, because ICANN grew "large" some came to the idea that it has to deal with international issues and even "infringe" on matters that are considered inter-governmental. This is not technical role. It is bound to fail and nobody can help it. Of course, there are no culprits, because of the "shared responsibility". About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing that, all other options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies and might have it split in pieces. Daniel On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: And the governments’ track record? From: Daniel Kalchev [mailto:daniel at digsys.bg] My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the Government(s), or ICANN (staff). For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN to behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation by the ICANNs track record... Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Sun Mar 11 18:41:46 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:41:46 +0900 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Perhaps NTIA just decided to not award an important contract to an organization that'll have a new CEO in a couple of months? Anyway, many rumors here in Costa Rica, but no one seems to know. Adam On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: > If I may play Internet governance realpolitik analyst for a minute: > > The nonrenewal of IANA while a surprise to ICANN, was likely - not at all  - > a surprise to the EU + other OECD other governments. > > Reading between the 'global community' lines in the NTIA statement, it is > also safe to surmise that the Indian government for sure, quite possibly > rest of IBSA crowd, plus or minus China, were pre-informed/consulted as > well. > > Because, what a coincidence, on the same day NTIA slaps ICANN upside the > head, India drops its call for a new global Internet governance body, and > humbly claims it was 'not well thought out.' > > Coincidence?  I think not. > > Therefore: there is a broader game underway; whose contours certain folks at > NTIA know well; as do certain folks in certain other national governments > who are - players - too. > > Given the significance of the IANA function to the global economy, these > players aren't playing around. > > ICANN will have a new and improved plan inside 6 (- 9)  months, or lose the > game. (My realpolitik calculus that the 6 month renewal will become 9 > months, is that I seriously doubt the Obama admin will want to be talking > much about - global Internet governance - September - November 2012. For > some reason, I have this hunch that domestic politics and the Electoral > College will be more on their minds then ; ). > > Lee > > > ________________________________ > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Daniel Kalchev > [daniel at digsys.bg] > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:16 PM > To: Milton L Mueller > Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michaelgurstein > > Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" > for IANA renewal > > About the same. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. Yet, Governments change > in cycles - although it can be argued that the same (insert your favorite) > sits behind the scenes no matter which 'party' rules. I have no doubt it is > the same with ICANN and other power concentration bodies. > > The problem with this type of 'governance', where you have central body that > has the power to make decisions on their own is that it conflicts with the > fundamental architecture of the Internet - a network of networks. Within > Internet, each network is autonomous, has it's own governing and operational > structures -- no matter how small or how large that network is. In fact, the > smallest network is "equal" to the largest network in "rights" over the > Internet governance, for both have to peer somehow for the Internet to > exist. > > ICANN was created with the concept that such an "organization for sharing > the responsibility" will be able to handle the task, mainly because all > stakeholders will be at parity and nobody will be able to point at others > for whatever failure has happened… we have already seen some (mostly > political and policy) failures. More are coming with the new gTLD program. > Then, because ICANN grew "large" some came to the idea that it has to deal > with international issues and even "infringe" on matters that are considered > inter-governmental. This is not technical role. It is bound to fail and > nobody can help it. Of course, there are no culprits, because of the "shared > responsibility". > > About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if ICANN Is > brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing that, all other > options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies and might have it split > in pieces. > > Daniel > > On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > And the governments’ track record? > > From: Daniel Kalchev [mailto:daniel at digsys.bg] > > My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the Government(s), > or ICANN (staff). > For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. > > So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN to > behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. > > Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation by the > ICANNs track record... > > Daniel > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Sun Mar 11 18:53:14 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:53:14 -0600 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <42E845C2-D1AA-4EF7-A1C5-0C19C7B08607@cafonso.ca> Since we floating conspiracy theories :), here's a simple one: NTIA has just decided to wait until the exiting CEO is replaced. --c.a. sent from a dumbphone On 11/03/2012, at 16:37, Lee W McKnight wrote: > If I may play Internet governance realpolitik analyst for a minute: > > The nonrenewal of IANA while a surprise to ICANN, was likely - not at all - a surprise to the EU + other OECD other governments. > > Reading between the 'global community' lines in the NTIA statement, it is also safe to surmise that the Indian government for sure, quite possibly rest of IBSA crowd, plus or minus China, were pre-informed/consulted as well. > > Because, what a coincidence, on the same day NTIA slaps ICANN upside the head, India drops its call for a new global Internet governance body, and humbly claims it was 'not well thought out.' > > Coincidence? I think not. > > Therefore: there is a broader game underway; whose contours certain folks at NTIA know well; as do certain folks in certain other national governments who are - players - too. > > Given the significance of the IANA function to the global economy, these players aren't playing around. > > ICANN will have a new and improved plan inside 6 (- 9) months, or lose the game. (My realpolitik calculus that the 6 month renewal will become 9 months, is that I seriously doubt the Obama admin will want to be talking much about - global Internet governance - September - November 2012. For some reason, I have this hunch that domestic politics and the Electoral College will be more on their minds then ; ). > > Lee > > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Daniel Kalchev [daniel at digsys.bg] > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:16 PM > To: Milton L Mueller > Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michaelgurstein > Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal > > About the same. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. Yet, Governments change in cycles - although it can be argued that the same (insert your favorite) sits behind the scenes no matter which 'party' rules. I have no doubt it is the same with ICANN and other power concentration bodies. > > The problem with this type of 'governance', where you have central body that has the power to make decisions on their own is that it conflicts with the fundamental architecture of the Internet - a network of networks. Within Internet, each network is autonomous, has it's own governing and operational structures -- no matter how small or how large that network is. In fact, the smallest network is "equal" to the largest network in "rights" over the Internet governance, for both have to peer somehow for the Internet to exist. > > ICANN was created with the concept that such an "organization for sharing the responsibility" will be able to handle the task, mainly because all stakeholders will be at parity and nobody will be able to point at others for whatever failure has happened… we have already seen some (mostly political and policy) failures. More are coming with the new gTLD program. Then, because ICANN grew "large" some came to the idea that it has to deal with international issues and even "infringe" on matters that are considered inter-governmental. This is not technical role. It is bound to fail and nobody can help it. Of course, there are no culprits, because of the "shared responsibility". > > About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing that, all other options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies and might have it split in pieces. > > Daniel > > On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > >> And the governments’ track record? >> >> From: Daniel Kalchev [mailto:daniel at digsys.bg] >> >> My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the Government(s), or ICANN (staff). >> For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. >> >> So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN to behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. >> >> Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation by the ICANNs track record... >> >> Daniel > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Afonso) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:56:33 -0600 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <645C9005-2907-48BD-8C7A-BCDFA940C7E6@cafonso.ca> Wow, another adherent to my theory ;) and perhaps a good explanation of board muteness on the issue in the joint board/Gnso meeting. --c.a. sent from a dumbphone On 11/03/2012, at 16:41, Adam Peake wrote: > Perhaps NTIA just decided to not award an important contract to an > organization that'll have a new CEO in a couple of months? > > Anyway, many rumors here in Costa Rica, but no one seems to know. > > Adam > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: >> If I may play Internet governance realpolitik analyst for a minute: >> >> The nonrenewal of IANA while a surprise to ICANN, was likely - not at all - >> a surprise to the EU + other OECD other governments. >> >> Reading between the 'global community' lines in the NTIA statement, it is >> also safe to surmise that the Indian government for sure, quite possibly >> rest of IBSA crowd, plus or minus China, were pre-informed/consulted as >> well. >> >> Because, what a coincidence, on the same day NTIA slaps ICANN upside the >> head, India drops its call for a new global Internet governance body, and >> humbly claims it was 'not well thought out.' >> >> Coincidence? I think not. >> >> Therefore: there is a broader game underway; whose contours certain folks at >> NTIA know well; as do certain folks in certain other national governments >> who are - players - too. >> >> Given the significance of the IANA function to the global economy, these >> players aren't playing around. >> >> ICANN will have a new and improved plan inside 6 (- 9) months, or lose the >> game. (My realpolitik calculus that the 6 month renewal will become 9 >> months, is that I seriously doubt the Obama admin will want to be talking >> much about - global Internet governance - September - November 2012. For >> some reason, I have this hunch that domestic politics and the Electoral >> College will be more on their minds then ; ). >> >> Lee >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >> [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Daniel Kalchev >> [daniel at digsys.bg] >> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:16 PM >> To: Milton L Mueller >> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michaelgurstein >> >> Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" >> for IANA renewal >> >> About the same. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. Yet, Governments change >> in cycles - although it can be argued that the same (insert your favorite) >> sits behind the scenes no matter which 'party' rules. I have no doubt it is >> the same with ICANN and other power concentration bodies. >> >> The problem with this type of 'governance', where you have central body that >> has the power to make decisions on their own is that it conflicts with the >> fundamental architecture of the Internet - a network of networks. Within >> Internet, each network is autonomous, has it's own governing and operational >> structures -- no matter how small or how large that network is. In fact, the >> smallest network is "equal" to the largest network in "rights" over the >> Internet governance, for both have to peer somehow for the Internet to >> exist. >> >> ICANN was created with the concept that such an "organization for sharing >> the responsibility" will be able to handle the task, mainly because all >> stakeholders will be at parity and nobody will be able to point at others >> for whatever failure has happened… we have already seen some (mostly >> political and policy) failures. More are coming with the new gTLD program. >> Then, because ICANN grew "large" some came to the idea that it has to deal >> with international issues and even "infringe" on matters that are considered >> inter-governmental. This is not technical role. It is bound to fail and >> nobody can help it. Of course, there are no culprits, because of the "shared >> responsibility". >> >> About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if ICANN Is >> brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing that, all other >> options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies and might have it split >> in pieces. >> >> Daniel >> >> On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: >> >> And the governments’ track record? >> >> From: Daniel Kalchev [mailto:daniel at digsys.bg] >> >> My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the Government(s), >> or ICANN (staff). >> For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. >> >> So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN to >> behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. >> >> Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation by the >> ICANNs track record... >> >> Daniel >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 19:10:03 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:10:03 +1200 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: These are strictly my views as an individual and does not represent the views of any of my affiliations. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: > If I may play Internet governance realpolitik analyst for a minute: > > The nonrenewal of IANA while a surprise to ICANN, was likely - not at all > - a surprise to the EU + other OECD other governments. > I am not sure whether it would be a surprise but for those following internet governance who wear numerous hats and are involved in various sectors within the internet ecosystem, I do not think that they were unaware of the global dynamics in play. If it was a surprise or not, I don't know. > > Reading between the 'global community' lines in the NTIA statement, it is > also safe to surmise that the Indian government for sure, quite possibly > rest of IBSA crowd, plus or minus China, were pre-informed/consulted as > well. > The reality is that when the Indian Government made the call to the UN General Assembly last year, it would not have done so had it not had the backing nor lobbying of various countries because lobbying within the UN happens well before a motion is made. If we peel back the layers, it is not also accidental that Russia made a hefty donation to the ITU last year. However, as advocates of global public interest, we should be considering the impact of have an intergovernmental body to coordinate global policy making. I will refrain from making any comments as I believe all stakeholders whether they are civil society, public sector and civil society have room to grow in terms of better making the multistakeholder model works. The real challenge is in decoding "what is brewing?" > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vanda at uol.com.br Sun Mar 11 20:04:20 2012 From: vanda at uol.com.br (Vanda UOL) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:04:20 -0600 Subject: RES: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <008301ccffe3$b420f6a0$1c62e3e0$@uol.com.br> Agree, politics in US is impacting all scenarios.... icann is not different -----Mensagem original----- De: apeake at gmail.com [mailto:apeake at gmail.com] Em nome de Adam Peake Enviada em: domingo, 11 de março de 2012 16:42 Para: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Assunto: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal Perhaps NTIA just decided to not award an important contract to an organization that'll have a new CEO in a couple of months? Anyway, many rumors here in Costa Rica, but no one seems to know. Adam On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: > If I may play Internet governance realpolitik analyst for a minute: > > The nonrenewal of IANA while a surprise to ICANN, was likely - not at > all  - a surprise to the EU + other OECD other governments. > > Reading between the 'global community' lines in the NTIA statement, it > is also safe to surmise that the Indian government for sure, quite > possibly rest of IBSA crowd, plus or minus China, were > pre-informed/consulted as well. > > Because, what a coincidence, on the same day NTIA slaps ICANN upside > the head, India drops its call for a new global Internet governance > body, and humbly claims it was 'not well thought out.' > > Coincidence?  I think not. > > Therefore: there is a broader game underway; whose contours certain > folks at NTIA know well; as do certain folks in certain other national > governments who are - players - too. > > Given the significance of the IANA function to the global economy, > these players aren't playing around. > > ICANN will have a new and improved plan inside 6 (- 9)  months, or > lose the game. (My realpolitik calculus that the 6 month renewal will > become 9 months, is that I seriously doubt the Obama admin will want > to be talking much about - global Internet governance - September - > November 2012. For some reason, I have this hunch that domestic > politics and the Electoral College will be more on their minds then ; ). > > Lee > > > ________________________________ > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Daniel Kalchev > [daniel at digsys.bg] > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:16 PM > To: Milton L Mueller > Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michaelgurstein > > Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" > for IANA renewal > > About the same. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. Yet, Governments > change in cycles - although it can be argued that the same (insert > your favorite) sits behind the scenes no matter which 'party' rules. I > have no doubt it is the same with ICANN and other power concentration bodies. > > The problem with this type of 'governance', where you have central > body that has the power to make decisions on their own is that it > conflicts with the fundamental architecture of the Internet - a > network of networks. Within Internet, each network is autonomous, has > it's own governing and operational structures -- no matter how small > or how large that network is. In fact, the smallest network is "equal" > to the largest network in "rights" over the Internet governance, for > both have to peer somehow for the Internet to exist. > > ICANN was created with the concept that such an "organization for > sharing the responsibility" will be able to handle the task, mainly > because all stakeholders will be at parity and nobody will be able to > point at others for whatever failure has happened we have already > seen some (mostly political and policy) failures. More are coming with the new gTLD program. > Then, because ICANN grew "large" some came to the idea that it has to > deal with international issues and even "infringe" on matters that are > considered inter-governmental. This is not technical role. It is bound > to fail and nobody can help it. Of course, there are no culprits, > because of the "shared responsibility". > > About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if > ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing > that, all other options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies > and might have it split in pieces. > > Daniel > > On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > And the governments’ track record? > > From: Daniel Kalchev [mailto:daniel at digsys.bg] > > My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the > Government(s), or ICANN (staff). > For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. > > So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN > to behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. > > Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation > by the ICANNs track record... > > Daniel > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From karl at cavebear.com Sun Mar 11 21:24:31 2012 From: karl at cavebear.com (Karl Auerbach) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:24:31 -0700 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> Message-ID: <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> On 03/11/2012 02:16 PM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if > ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing that, > all other options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies and might > have it split in pieces. ICANN, in fact internet users, have the power to tell NTIA to go take a flying leap at a rolling donut. There is no reason why ICANN can't simply take IANA - or more directly - a root zone file - private. There is nothing that says "IANA is a child owned by the US government". Nor is there anything that consecrates the NTIA/Versign root zone file. That would mean that ICANN would publish its own root zone files, which would leave the root zone operators with the choice whether to pick up the ICANN version or the NTIA/Verisign version. Alternatively ICANN could - and it has plenty of cash flow to do this - could establish its own constellation of root zone servers. That latter approach would then leave it up to users, and their agents, i.e. their ISP's, the decision which root operators to honor. Most users would not even notice as the change would occur next time their machine reboots and gets its magic numbers via DHCP. Moreover, any country or body that wants to bypass ICANN or the ITU or anybody could follow a similar course. I doubt that people will explicitly do this. However, I believe that it could incrementally happen if the net slowly (and largely imperceptibly to users) begins to fragment along national and provider lines. --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Sun Mar 11 22:13:21 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:13:21 -0600 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> Message-ID: <16EA8EA4-C188-4292-802C-E28B1369D4C7@istaff.org> On Mar 11, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From pouzin at well.com Sun Mar 11 22:14:32 2012 From: pouzin at well.com (Louis Pouzin (well)) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:14:32 +0100 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> Message-ID: "Let a hundred flowers blossom .." Mao Zedong, 1957. It's on the go. Cheers. - - - On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:24, Karl Auerbach wrote: > ICANN, in fact internet users, have the power to tell NTIA to go take a > flying leap at a rolling donut. > > There is no reason why ICANN can't simply take IANA - or more directly - > a root zone file - private. There is nothing that says "IANA is a child > owned by the US government". Nor is there anything that consecrates the > NTIA/Versign root zone file. > > That would mean that ICANN would publish its own root zone files, which > would leave the root zone operators with the choice whether to pick up > the ICANN version or the NTIA/Verisign version. > > Alternatively ICANN could - and it has plenty of cash flow to do this - > could establish its own constellation of root zone servers. > > That latter approach would then leave it up to users, and their agents, > i.e. their ISP's, the decision which root operators to honor. > > Most users would not even notice as the change would occur next time their > machine reboots and gets its magic numbers via DHCP. > > Moreover, any country or body that wants to bypass ICANN or the ITU or > anybody could follow a similar course. > > I doubt that people will explicitly do this. However, I believe that it > could incrementally happen if the net slowly (and largely imperceptibly > to users) begins to fragment along national and provider lines. > > --karl-- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Sun Mar 11 22:40:31 2012 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:40:31 +0000 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <42E845C2-D1AA-4EF7-A1C5-0C19C7B08607@cafonso.ca> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu>,<42E845C2-D1AA-4EF7-A1C5-0C19C7B08607@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EEB2@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Carlos, It's just politics as usual, not a conspiracy. Though yeah, some may think those two words are synonyms : ). Certainly turnover in leadership in ICANN may play in to this. I expect ultimately whatever happens with the IANA contract, ICANN's new CEO will be cool with it when it happens; as will various governments. But especially for those outside of US system, as to why I expect this is about more than Becktsrom's successor: US government agencies do not state in bureaucratese that something like ICANN's plans for IANA is 'not in the public interest' - lightly. Since in US system, next stop (typically) after such a finding, is the courts. Where the government agency would be pressed to justify its conclusions, after a lawsuit has been filed seeking to overturn the finding. Likely noone is planning to sue NTIA over this just yet. But the curtain has just gone up on this next act. Personally, I do not pretend to know what the next scene is, never mind who is left standing in the grand finale. Finally of course Karl is right that many alternatives can be imagined, but which if any of those alternative futures come to pass, well I am still betting that ICANN comes through this next stage just fine. Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Carlos A. Afonso [ca at cafonso.ca] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:53 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Lee W McKnight Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; DanielKalchev; Milton L Mueller; michaelgurstein Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal Since we floating conspiracy theories :), here's a simple one: NTIA has just decided to wait until the exiting CEO is replaced. --c.a. sent from a dumbphone On 11/03/2012, at 16:37, Lee W McKnight > wrote: If I may play Internet governance realpolitik analyst for a minute: The nonrenewal of IANA while a surprise to ICANN, was likely - not at all - a surprise to the EU + other OECD other governments. Reading between the 'global community' lines in the NTIA statement, it is also safe to surmise that the Indian government for sure, quite possibly rest of IBSA crowd, plus or minus China, were pre-informed/consulted as well. Because, what a coincidence, on the same day NTIA slaps ICANN upside the head, India drops its call for a new global Internet governance body, and humbly claims it was 'not well thought out.' Coincidence? I think not. Therefore: there is a broader game underway; whose contours certain folks at NTIA know well; as do certain folks in certain other national governments who are - players - too. Given the significance of the IANA function to the global economy, these players aren't playing around. ICANN will have a new and improved plan inside 6 (- 9) months, or lose the game. (My realpolitik calculus that the 6 month renewal will become 9 months, is that I seriously doubt the Obama admin will want to be talking much about - global Internet governance - September - November 2012. For some reason, I have this hunch that domestic politics and the Electoral College will be more on their minds then ; ). Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Daniel Kalchev [daniel at digsys.bg] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:16 PM To: Milton L Mueller Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michaelgurstein Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal About the same. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. Yet, Governments change in cycles - although it can be argued that the same (insert your favorite) sits behind the scenes no matter which 'party' rules. I have no doubt it is the same with ICANN and other power concentration bodies. The problem with this type of 'governance', where you have central body that has the power to make decisions on their own is that it conflicts with the fundamental architecture of the Internet - a network of networks. Within Internet, each network is autonomous, has it's own governing and operational structures -- no matter how small or how large that network is. In fact, the smallest network is "equal" to the largest network in "rights" over the Internet governance, for both have to peer somehow for the Internet to exist. ICANN was created with the concept that such an "organization for sharing the responsibility" will be able to handle the task, mainly because all stakeholders will be at parity and nobody will be able to point at others for whatever failure has happened… we have already seen some (mostly political and policy) failures. More are coming with the new gTLD program. Then, because ICANN grew "large" some came to the idea that it has to deal with international issues and even "infringe" on matters that are considered inter-governmental. This is not technical role. It is bound to fail and nobody can help it. Of course, there are no culprits, because of the "shared responsibility". About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing that, all other options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies and might have it split in pieces. Daniel On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: And the governments’ track record? From: Daniel Kalchev [mailto:daniel at digsys.bg] My take on this is that those lobbying will either lobby the Government(s), or ICANN (staff). For the consequences this does not really matter, unfortunately. So in the end, it all comes down to whether the community trusts ICANN to behave. Unfortunately for ICANN this is sometimes not the case. Not saying Governments are any better - but we got to this situation by the ICANNs track record... Daniel ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Sun Mar 11 22:52:18 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:52:18 -0600 Subject: [governance] Regarding "the idea that a fully internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfill this oversight function" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1003F71B-86EB-4996-8FFA-848601AD10C1@istaff.org> (regarding "the idea that a fully internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfill this oversight function") On Mar 11, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Ian Peter wrote: > Well, I don't reject it but I am not sure it is the best resolution. > > ICANN is morphing into a domainer industry body, with token representation > of other stakeholders to indicate that it is being consultative. I would not > like such an organisation to be making policy decisions for the Internet. An actual separate domainer industry body that only developed policy for the DNS system (via open and transparent processes) was actually the original plan for the "DNSO" per the ICANN blueprint. While that model requires diligence to insure for equitable consideration of all issues on their merits regardless of the parties participating, it has the benefit of an smaller ICANN organization whose sole role is oversight of the openness and transparency of processes and ratification of policies developed in accordance with those processes (and instills a relatively high immunity at the Board level regarding lobbying for policy changes.) > Far better that there is external oversight if this is the direction > - in that case replacing NTIA oversight with something more like a > multistakeholder IGF would be better than trying to make ICANN > something it is not and doesn't want to be. Again, that was supposed to be the primary role of the ICANN Board, now buttressed by both the GAC and the Affirmation of Commitments. I agree that is very difficult to perform oversight of openness & transparency of processes and the adherence to those processes for developed policy if the ICANN Board is routinely an integral part of policy development. FYI, /John (disclaimers apply: my views alone; no photons moved faster than light in the writing of this email; warning - reading raw or underdeveloped thoughts may increase your risk of developing various mental psychosis) -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 23:44:13 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:44:13 +0500 Subject: [governance] Fw: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms In-Reply-To: References: <0.0.15.577.1CCFFB8780AD9B8.0@smtp7.icpbounce.com> <1331492569.15625.YahooMailNeo@web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, I believe there are a number of members from IGC present in the ICANN meeting in Costa Rica and actively participate through the various constituencies in ICANN. As there is already quite a group going on there, it would be useful to learn if you all can get together in Costa Rica and coordinate that working group that is actually involved within the ICANN processes. The ATRT issues is not something that can be well understood or deliberated upon unless one is actively involved within the bottom-up processes of ICANN. Sala do you think you can get the group together in Costa Rica and coordinate some sort of a group that can take this forward and regular share its observations with IGC? Best -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > If there are enough people who wish to volunteer to coordinate this, that > would be great. My disclosure is that I am an ALAC member within the At > Large community within ICANN and represent the APRALO region into the ALAC. > > I am in Costa Rica for the ICANN 43. I am willing to participate in this > working group and also acknowledge that there may be conflicts which may > require me to stand down etc. > > However this should not limit nor discourage others from participating. In > any event, a consensus view should be encouraged from within the community > before the publication of a position or statement. > > Warm Regards from San Jose, Costa Rica, > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: >> >> We can particiapte to review Accountability Mechanisms, however, can an >> organization or a WG take this role to review? >> If possible, I suggest IGC CS to establish a WG. >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> From: ICANN News Alert >> To: ias_pk at yahoo.com >> Sent: Sunday, 11 March 2012, 23:55 >> Subject: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for >> Review of Accountability Mechanisms >> >> ICANN News Alert >> >> http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11mar12-en.htm >> >> ________________________________ >> >> ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability >> Mechanisms >> >> 11 March 2012 >> >> The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is seeking >> expressions of interest to serve on a committee of independent experts to >> review ICANN's Accountability Mechanisms. >> >> The Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT), organized under >> the Affirmation of Commitments, recommended that ICANN convene a group of >> experts to review ICANN's Reconsideration and Independent Review Processes, >> such as the costs and spectrum of Board decisions subject to review. The >> ATRT also suggested that the group of experts review additional proposed >> mechanisms suggested in 2009 by ICANN's President's Strategy Committee. >> Finally, the ATRT called for a review of the standards for bringing a >> Request for Reconsideration. >> >> Based on the nature of review mechanisms, as well as the separate ATRT >> recommendations relating to the Ombudsman's office and its interaction with >> the Board, it is understood that this group of independent experts shall >> focus on a review of the Reconsideration process and the Independent Review >> process. >> >> Further information on the accountability mechanisms subject to review and >> proposed qualifications for service on the group of independent experts is >> available here >> http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/mechanisms-experts-eoi-11mar12-en.htm. >> >> >> >> This message was sent to ias_pk at yahoo.com from: >> ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way >> Suite 330 >> | Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 >> >> Manage Your Subscription: >> >> http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=10782720&l=6333&s=GVKU&m=876640&c=165637 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Sun Mar 11 23:50:42 2012 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:50:42 +1100 Subject: [governance] Re: Regarding "the idea that a fully internationalised, representative ICANN Board can fulfil this oversight function" In-Reply-To: <1003F71B-86EB-4996-8FFA-848601AD10C1@istaff.org> Message-ID: John - My reading of the original ICANN, both from the acronym and the history, is that it was established to perform some basic and necessary administrative functions pertaining to the competent operation of the DNS. What was not envisaged at that time was the money spinning wheeling dealing high fee tld domain industrial function pertaining to new domain names that has evolved and from my (admittedly distant) view become the basic business of the organisation. In other words, its now an industry, not an administrative function. The most common western model of industry regulation is industry self regulation with government oversight. That's I think what governments would like, and is broadly what we have with NTIA only it is unilateral. The industry, like most industries, would be happy to have nothing to do with governments (and does GAC to avoid trouble basically). In such a model, the industry body might be required to report annually or periodically on its performance. If a multistakeholder function to perform this oversight at some distance from the industry is established, we might actually gain something acceptable to all stakeholders. If we don't move in that direction pro-actively, a mish mash of separate national or regional interventions might lead to a far less acceptable model. Which is where I think we need to actively create sensible internet governance, involving all stakeholders, rather than just taking a reactive stance to the various government attempts to introduce strange and not well considered controls. That I think is the challenge, but I suspect we will just continue to resist government taking any role and as a result have less satisfactory outcomes. Ian > From: John Curran > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:52:18 -0600 > To: Ian Peter > Cc: > Subject: Regarding "the idea that a fully internationalised, representative > ICANN Board can fulfill this oversight function" > > (regarding "the idea that a fully internationalised, representative > ICANN Board can fulfill this oversight function") > > On Mar 11, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Ian Peter wrote: > >> Well, I don't reject it but I am not sure it is the best resolution. >> >> ICANN is morphing into a domainer industry body, with token representation >> of other stakeholders to indicate that it is being consultative. I would not >> like such an organisation to be making policy decisions for the Internet. > > An actual separate domainer industry body that only developed policy > for the DNS system (via open and transparent processes) was actually > the original plan for the "DNSO" per the ICANN blueprint. While that > model requires diligence to insure for equitable consideration of all > issues on their merits regardless of the parties participating, it has > the benefit of an smaller ICANN organization whose sole role is oversight > of the openness and transparency of processes and ratification of policies > developed in accordance with those processes (and instills a relatively > high immunity at the Board level regarding lobbying for policy changes.) > >> Far better that there is external oversight if this is the direction >> - in that case replacing NTIA oversight with something more like a >> multistakeholder IGF would be better than trying to make ICANN >> something it is not and doesn't want to be. > > Again, that was supposed to be the primary role of the ICANN Board, now > buttressed by both the GAC and the Affirmation of Commitments. I agree > that is very difficult to perform oversight of openness & transparency > of processes and the adherence to those processes for developed policy > if the ICANN Board is routinely an integral part of policy development. > > FYI, > /John > > (disclaimers apply: my views alone; no photons moved faster than light > in the writing of this email; warning - reading raw or underdeveloped > thoughts may increase your risk of developing various mental psychosis) > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ias_pk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 01:05:05 2012 From: ias_pk at yahoo.com (Imran Ahmed Shah) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] Fw: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms In-Reply-To: References: <0.0.15.577.1CCFFB8780AD9B8.0@smtp7.icpbounce.com> <1331492569.15625.YahooMailNeo@web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1331528705.84351.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> This is a good opportunity for the IGC CS members to arrange a meeting at Costa Rica. I suggest that 1. IGC CS members can also participate through "Skype Group Call facility", 2. One of the agenda items should be to form a Working Group to review on the ICANN's "Accountability Mechanisms" 3. If we can form a group, we can submit EOI on behalf of IGC CS. We had been discussing the ICANN's policies and the Accountability on different threads, but now we have an opportunity to work on it and consolidate the public concerns and to review the process and fulfillment of AoC. I invite the members to participate in "Public Interest". Thanks Imran Ahmed Shah ________________________________ From: Fouad Bajwa To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Cc: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Monday, 12 March 2012, 8:44 Subject: Re: [governance] Fw: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms >Hi, > >I believe there are a number of members from IGC present in the ICANN >meeting in Costa Rica and actively participate through the various >constituencies in ICANN. > >As there is already quite a group going on there, it would be useful >to learn if you all can get together in Costa Rica and coordinate that >working group that is actually involved within the ICANN processes. >The ATRT issues is not something that can be well understood or >deliberated upon unless one is actively involved within the bottom-up >processes of ICANN. > >Sala do you think you can get the group together in Costa Rica and >coordinate some sort of a group that can take this forward and regular >share its observations with IGC? > >Best > > > > >-- >Regards. >-------------------------- >Fouad Bajwa > > >On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro > wrote: >> If there are enough people who wish to volunteer to coordinate this, that >> would be great. My disclosure is that I am an ALAC member within the At >> Large community within ICANN and represent the APRALO region into the ALAC. >> >> I am in Costa Rica for the ICANN 43. I am willing to participate in this >> working group and also acknowledge that there may be conflicts which may >> require me to stand down etc. >> >> However this should not limit nor discourage others from participating. In >> any event, a consensus view should be encouraged from within the community >> before the publication of a position or statement. >> >> Warm Regards from San Jose, Costa Rica, >> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: >>> >>> We can particiapte to review Accountability Mechanisms, however, can an >>> organization or a WG take this role to review? >>> If possible, I suggest IGC CS to establish a WG. >>> >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>> From: ICANN News Alert >>> To: ias_pk at yahoo.com >>> Sent: Sunday, 11 March 2012, 23:55 >>> Subject: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for >>> Review of Accountability Mechanisms >>> >>> ICANN News Alert >>> >>> http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11mar12-en.htm >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability >>> Mechanisms >>> >>> 11 March 2012 >>> >>> The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is seeking >>> expressions of interest to serve on a committee of independent experts to >>> review ICANN's Accountability Mechanisms. >>> >>> The Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT), organized under >>> the Affirmation of Commitments, recommended that ICANN convene a group of >>> experts to review ICANN's Reconsideration and Independent Review Processes, >>> such as the costs and spectrum of Board decisions subject to review. The >>> ATRT also suggested that the group of experts review additional proposed >>> mechanisms suggested in 2009 by ICANN's President's Strategy Committee. >>> Finally, the ATRT called for a review of the standards for bringing a >>> Request for Reconsideration. >>> >>> Based on the nature of review mechanisms, as well as the separate ATRT >>> recommendations relating to the Ombudsman's office and its interaction with >>> the Board, it is understood that this group of independent experts shall >>> focus on a review of the Reconsideration process and the Independent Review >>> process. >>> >>> Further information on the accountability mechanisms subject to review and >>> proposed qualifications for service on the group of independent experts is >>> available here >>> http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/mechanisms-experts-eoi-11mar12-en.htm. >>> >>> >>> >>> This message was sent to ias_pk at yahoo.com from: >>> ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way >>> Suite 330 >>> | Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 >>> >>> Manage Your Subscription: >>> >>> http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=10782720&l=6333&s=GVKU&m=876640&c=165637 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >> Cell: +679 998 2851 >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: >    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:50:15 +1200 Subject: [governance] Brief Get Together in San Jose [ICANN 43] Message-ID: Dear All, For those of you who are interested in getting together in San Jose, Costa Rica, we could organise to have breakfast together at the Ramada Hotel [each person pays for his/her own breakfast] on Wednesday from say 6:30 - 7:30am or in the evening. We can also activate discussions via the skype chat room etc. Alternatively we could set a mutually convenient time to get together. If people are interested, kindly respond to this email so that I can add your name to the skype group. Warm Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: >Dear All, > >For those of you who are interested in getting together in San Jose, Costa >Rica, we could organise to have breakfast together at the Ramada Hotel >[each person pays for his/her own breakfast] on Wednesday from say 6:30 - >7:30am or in the evening. We can also activate discussions via the skype >chat room etc. > >Alternatively we could set a mutually convenient time to get together. If >people are interested, kindly respond to this email so that I can add your >name to the skype group. > > >Warm Regards, > >-- >Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > >Tweeter: @SalanietaT >Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Mon Mar 12 02:56:28 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:56:28 +0200 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <16EA8EA4-C188-4292-802C-E28B1369D4C7@istaff.org> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <16EA8EA4-C188-4292-802C-E28B1369D4C7@istaff.org> Message-ID: <4F5D9E1C.3040009@digsys.bg> On 12.03.12 04:13, John Curran wrote: > On Mar 11, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > >> About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if >> ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. > > Daniel - > Could you elaborate on the above? I'm trying to understand what > exactly you propose, and how that would solve the situation. > I know, some of this may sound very speculative, but unfortunately it is not. Some background: The 'change' in IANA within ICANN happened few years ago. Before that point, IANA was an small, encapsulated entity that more or less just shared office space with ICANN. IANA at that time had only office equipment necessary to perform it's role. Then, ICANN decided to invest big in data center facilities. This more or less coincides with the design and implementation of the root DNSSEC signing. I believe IANA by itself did not have the capacity to do anything like that and ICANN came as the big brother to help. There was a lot of controversy during that time, whether IANA/ICANN should perform this function on their own or they should follow different model. My suggestion at the time was to separate IANA as much as possible from ICANN, as this would be the only chance to have IANA perform the root zone signing for DNSSEC and that everyone would agree to it. One can argue, that before that tripping point, ICANN was the forum for various stakeholders to meet together and achieve consensus. This was about the only role which I could personally see ICANN do and be equitable, but.. apparently someone there had different agenda. With this infrastructure investment, ICANN prepared itself to become yet another DNS Registry -- the registry of the root. This, also coincided with the plans/introduction of the IDN Fast Track and now the new gTLD expansion. Yet another issue ICANN has is with ccTLDs. It has been an situation for so many years, where ICANN claimed that ccTLDs did not contribute, in contrast with gTLDs (who in fact have contractual relationship with ICANN). On the other hand, ccTLDs have always had the position, that they are happy to contribute to whatever costs IANA (but not ICANN) has, as it is IANA they are dealing with, with regards to "services". Now back to your question: The moment ICANN invested in beefing up the technical capability of IANA was the perfect time for IANA to be spun off as an independent unit, perhaps under close supervision of ICANN. Unfortunately, this would mean that ICANN could tie up their own hands, with regards to their plans for being able to create new top level domains at will. To do this separation today, ICANN has to be extremely brave, as to ignore all the lobbying for the new gTLDs and all the promises in that regard made by ICANN (staff). For when the separation becomes reality, ICANN will become the policy body and IANA will become the executive body -- with regards to the root DNS (there is a lot more that IANA does, but ICANN does not see they money there, yet). There will possibly be an controlling body as well. If IANA is separate entity, all ccTLDs will be more than happy to support that entity, as it will be slim and transparent enough. This is one problem, that is solved. A very long standing problem for ICANN. This separation is exactly what NTIA has requested in the latest bid and what ICANN has refused to demonstrate they can/will do. It is therefore the primary reason for the current stopping of the bid. I believe NTIA will be more than happy to accept that setup. By the way, this power separation model already exists in some ccTLDs - where there is a separate policy making body and separate technical executive body. There are already established "impartial" internet registries like IANA - the various regional IP registries come to mind, like the RIPE NCC. At one time, during this discussion it occurred to me, that if ICANN fails to meet the NTIA requirements, perhaps one of these will, most likely ARIN (as there was a requirement to be US based, if I remember correctly). Or probably better, a new structure built around that model. (as to not create conflict of interest, because ARIN by itself is a "customer" for IANA services) Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dogwallah at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 03:01:02 2012 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:01:02 +0000 Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... In-Reply-To: <54BD0772-8061-47E5-873E-55D8B252CB4F@corp.arin.net> References: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <54BD0772-8061-47E5-873E-55D8B252CB4F@corp.arin.net> Message-ID: For more on this topic, one can read the work of the independent consultants who reviewed the ASO. Milton, John and I (amongst many others) were interviewed by the review team: http://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/120123-ASOReview-V49.pdf -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Mon Mar 12 03:07:49 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:07:49 +0200 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> Message-ID: <4F5DA0C5.2020806@digsys.bg> On 12.03.12 03:24, Karl Auerbach wrote: > On 03/11/2012 02:16 PM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > >> About the only way out, with regards to the current situation is if >> ICANN Is brave enough to spin off IANA as separate entity. Failing that, >> all other options will alienate ICANN with it's constituencies and might >> have it split in pieces. > ICANN, in fact internet users, have the power to tell NTIA to go take a > flying leap at a rolling donut. > > There is no reason why ICANN can't simply take IANA - or more directly - > a root zone file - private. There is nothing that says "IANA is a child > owned by the US government". Nor is there anything that consecrates the > NTIA/Versign root zone file. > > That would mean that ICANN would publish its own root zone files, which > would leave the root zone operators with the choice whether to pick up > the ICANN version or the NTIA/Verisign version. > > Alternatively ICANN could - and it has plenty of cash flow to do this - > could establish its own constellation of root zone servers. > ICANN not only has plenty of cash, but they also have the necessary technical setup in place, up and running. Since few years ago. Of course, they can do this, but consider: - ICANN was created in 1998 to prevent exactly this from happening. - ICANN will lose all credibility, no matter what they claim and what money they have -- those will evaporate very quickly. - It was ICANN's policy to claim such is a bad thing and ban anyone who attempted to run alternative roots at large scale. By doing it themselves, they will confirm those people's opinion that ICANN is just trowing sand in the eyes. - In any case, such situation will not last more than a couple of months, before most of the stakeholders will get together, make new arrangements and move forward. - Those who will lose/be damaged will be those who played with ICANN to get speculative registration of their new gTLDs. Finally, all of this would have been possible before DNSSEC. Today, with DNSSEC, the entity that possesses the root zone key owns the root. You don't have to be ICANN. Or NTIA, or Verisign. You don't even need that much money -- with today's infrastructure and commodity equipment and software, you can run an root server even from your home. By the way, your take is that Internet users have any trust in ICANN. In reality, most Internet users don't even know that ICANN exist, what they do etc, nor do they care. Same about NTIA, or Verising, of course. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Mon Mar 12 04:33:23 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:33:23 +0000 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <645C9005-2907-48BD-8C7A-BCDFA940C7E6@cafonso.ca> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B08EE45@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <645C9005-2907-48BD-8C7A-BCDFA940C7E6@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: In message <645C9005-2907-48BD-8C7A-BCDFA940C7E6 at cafonso.ca>, at 16:56:33 on Sun, 11 Mar 2012, Carlos A. Afonso writes >a good explanation of board muteness on the issue in the joint board/Gnso meeting. An even better one is perhaps clause L5 of the RFP, which says all "News Releases" about the process can only take place with prior approval from NTIA. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Mon Mar 12 04:45:50 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:45:50 +0000 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5D9E1C.3040009@digsys.bg> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <16EA8EA4-C188-4292-802C-E28B1369D4C7@istaff.org> <4F5D9E1C.3040009@digsys.bg> Message-ID: In message <4F5D9E1C.3040009 at digsys.bg>, at 08:56:28 on Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Daniel Kalchev writes > At one time, during this discussion it occurred to me, that if ICANN >fails to meet the NTIA requirements, perhaps one of these will, most >likely ARIN (as there was a requirement to be US based, if I remember >correctly). Yes, and also some constraints on the employment of non-US citizens. >Or probably better, a new structure built around that model. (as to not >create conflict of interest, because ARIN by itself is a "customer" for >IANA services) There are two things we should not forget. One is that it's a fixed price of $0. The other is how a start-up could fill in the "Past Performance" questionnaire. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From karl at cavebear.com Mon Mar 12 04:50:07 2012 From: karl at cavebear.com (Karl Auerbach) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 01:50:07 -0700 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5DA0C5.2020806@digsys.bg> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> <4F5DA0C5.2020806@digsys.bg> Message-ID: <4F5DB8BF.6020406@cavebear.com> On 03/12/2012 12:07 AM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: >> ICANN, in fact internet users, have the power to tell NTIA to go take a >> flying leap at a rolling donut. ... > Finally, all of this would have been possible before DNSSEC. Today, with > DNSSEC, the entity that possesses the root zone key owns the root. You > don't have to be ICANN. Or NTIA, or Verisign. You don't even need that > much money -- with today's infrastructure and commodity equipment and > software, you can run an root server even from your home. It turns out that DNSSEC works fine with competing roots. In DNSSEC keying information for each TLD is propagated *upwards* into each different root. However, just as each root needs its own "hints" information to get things started, it also needs its own root zone key information. DNSSEC does not lock a TLD to any given set of root servers. --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Mon Mar 12 05:09:01 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:09:01 +0200 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5DB8BF.6020406@cavebear.com> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> <4F5DA0C5.2020806@digsys.bg> <4F5DB8BF.6020406@cavebear.com> Message-ID: <4F5DBD2D.2020805@digsys.bg> On 12.03.12 10:50, Karl Auerbach wrote: > It turns out that DNSSEC works fine with competing roots. In DNSSEC > keying information for each TLD is propagated *upwards* into each > different root. However, just as each root needs its own "hints" > information to get things started, it also needs its own root zone key > information. DNSSEC does not lock a TLD to any given set of root > servers. --karl-- Not the TLD of course - the problem is with users. This just came in: draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-04.txt (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor/) with support already in Unbound and claims that Microsoft have already included support in Windows 8 Server. Considering how most users don't really care about these things and expect them to "just work", the burden here starts to fall on software vendors. With DNSSEC, the (too) long living concept that someone else has to resolve DNS for you will be finally dead, as to make good use of DNSSEC, validation has to happen on the end-node. This means, that ISP provided DNS service will be used only for the caching it provides, but will not be trusted. Let's assume Microsoft indeed delivers true DNSSEC implementation in their OS (something they promised for Windows 7, if I remember correctly). This means, that when you connect your Windows 8 computer to Internet and if your ISP is trying to serve you with a different DNS root, your computer will reject any and all DNS responses, because these will not have valid signatures. Unless of course, the alternative root operator has the "official" DNSSEC keys in their possession. In which case they do, indeed own the root. Another 'technology' that will fail badly is the various middle boxes at 'hotspots' that mess with DNS in attempts to redirect your traffic. Your assumption, that one can reconfigure all of the Internet computers to use different root could work.. only under controlled environment. There is no way it could work on global scale. Which means there will be many small Internet islands created, and today nobody want's to be on an isolated island. Users will just change their ISP whatever, for the "real thing". Or, in summary -- this alternative root business is already game over. Or, in other words, right on the topic: we all want and need ICANN to make up their mind and behave. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From pouzin at well.com Mon Mar 12 07:33:05 2012 From: pouzin at well.com (Louis Pouzin (well)) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:33:05 +0100 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5DBD2D.2020805@digsys.bg> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> <4F5DA0C5.2020806@digsys.bg> <4F5DB8BF.6020406@cavebear.com> <4F5DBD2D.2020805@digsys.bg> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:09, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > [..] > Your assumption, that one can reconfigure all of the Internet computers to > use different root could work.. only under controlled environment. There is > no way it could work on global scale. Which means there will be many small > Internet islands created, and today nobody want's to be on an isolated > island. Users will just change their ISP whatever, for the "real thing". > > The "real thing" is a **censored** net that masks out non ICANN TLDs. It's just a big island. A root including all known root zones is not an island. It's the whole (uncensored) net. Users don't have to juggle with ISPs to enjoy it. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > > For those of you who are interested in getting together in San Jose, Costa > Rica, we could organise to have breakfast together at the Ramada Hotel [each > person pays for his/her own breakfast] on Wednesday from say 6:30 - 7:30am > or in the evening. This is a great initiative. Since (almost) all of us have free breakfast at the hotel, I would suggest evening (around 1700hrs - before the social functions) . > We can also activate discussions via the skype chat room > etc. > Alternatively we could set a mutually convenient time to get together. If > people are interested, kindly respond to this email so that I can add your > name to the skype group. > Please count me in. My skype is abigabaw but I will also attend. Kind Regards, Wilson -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From isolatedn at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 08:10:08 2012 From: isolatedn at gmail.com (Sivasubramanian M) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 06:10:08 -0600 Subject: [governance] Brief Get Together in San Jose [ICANN 43] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Sala, I will join this meeting. Sivasubramanian M On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > For those of you who are interested in getting together in San Jose, Costa > Rica, we could organise to have breakfast together at the Ramada Hotel > [each person pays for his/her own breakfast] on Wednesday from say 6:30 - > 7:30am or in the evening. We can also activate discussions via the skype > chat room etc. > > Alternatively we could set a mutually convenient time to get together. If > people are interested, kindly respond to this email so that I can add your > name to the skype group. > > > Warm Regards, > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kerry Brown ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro [salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:50 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Brief Get Together in San Jose [ICANN 43] Dear All, For those of you who are interested in getting together in San Jose, Costa Rica, we could organise to have breakfast together at the Ramada Hotel [each person pays for his/her own breakfast] on Wednesday from say 6:30 - 7:30am or in the evening. We can also activate discussions via the skype chat room etc. Alternatively we could set a mutually convenient time to get together. If people are interested, kindly respond to this email so that I can add your name to the skype group. 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:02:26 +1200 Subject: [governance] Opening Speech by the Costa Rica President Laura Chinchilla Message-ID: Dear All, It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a country Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a nation and is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic internet. I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes available. Warm Regards from Costa Rica, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> > Dear All, > > It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura > Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a country > Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she > transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a nation and > is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic internet. > > I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes > available. > > Warm Regards from Costa Rica, > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Mon Mar 12 13:09:56 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:09:56 +0000 Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... In-Reply-To: <4F5CD86F.8050100@cafonso.ca> References: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <4F5CD86F.8050100@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CD2EF@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Hi, I am too busy right now to wade through these responses and respond it detail. I will do that when I have time. First advice I would give people is to read the actual paper, not just the spin doctors' responses to it. > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Carlos A. Afonso > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:53 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; McTim > Cc: Milton L Mueller; Robert Guerra > Subject: Re: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now > online ... > > OK, let us see MM's response, but for my part McT clarified the ASO-NRO > logic. After creation of NRO, I wondered why ASO was still in place, now > I see there a close intertwining. > > --c.a. > > On 03/11/2012 01:38 PM, McTim wrote: > > On 3/11/12, Milton L Mueller wrote: > >> For those interested, I was invited to contribute a paper on some > >> aspect of stewardship, and chose IP addressing. > >> http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012p > >> apers/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf > > > > a few factual innaccuracies: > > > > "The NRO's status as the ASO in ICANN's cor- porate governance > > structure allows the RIRs' > > chief executives to appoint people directly to the ICANN board, and > > also allows it to place people on ICANN's nominating committee," > > > > > > is incorrect, it's the ASO AC that actually chooses see: > > > > http://aso.icann.org/people/icann-board-elections/2012-elections/ > > > > and: > > > > "While some of the RIRs > > still have some available supplies" > > > > seems to indicate that some RIRs do not. I don't think this is the > case. > > > > and: > > > > 'The ASO of ICANN is nothing more than the NRO, and the NRO is nothing > > more than a com- bination of the staff and CEOs of the RIRs.' > > > > This is not true either. The ASO AC are elected folk from the RIR > > communities. They make the decisions, the NRO act as the secretariat > > to support them. > > > > and: > > > > "With the Internet well established as the dominant data > > communications protocol and a globalized institutional framework in > > place > > (ICANN) there is no longer any political reason to delegate address > > allocation to regions. " > > > > There is, folks in different regions still want to have regional > > policies even after v4 depletion. > > > > Come to the Gambia in May and tell the AfriNIC Policy Development > > Working Group that we will be obsolete after v6 deployment, I'm sure > > most would disagree. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Mon Mar 12 13:13:28 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:13:28 -0400 Subject: [governance] Opening Speech by the Costa Rica President Laura Chinchilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sala, I have been following the ICANN meeting remotely. Indeed, great comments made by the Costa Rican president in support of Human Rights, Freedom & Democracy. I look forward to the transcript. regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org On 2012-03-12, at 12:02 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > Dear All, > > It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a country Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a nation and is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic internet. > > I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes available. > > Warm Regards from Costa Rica, > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From william.drake at uzh.ch Mon Mar 12 13:15:41 2012 From: william.drake at uzh.ch (William Drake) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:41 -0600 Subject: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape today Message-ID: <6D458268-2096-4B44-AC41-5F1BD710B7B2@uzh.ch> http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 > On 2012-03-11, at 5:38 PM, Bill Graham wrote: > > > Please note that our session has been rescheduled again because of a scheduling conflict with the WHOIS Review Team Session. It is now from 13:00-15:00 (2 hours) in Room La Paz A/C. > > > > Because this is a very late change to the schedule *please* notify all of your contacts who may be interested and encourage them to come. > > > > The current plan for the session is to have the following people on stage to speak as follows: > > > > Part A: > > -- Chengetai Masango: status of preparations for the IGF and next steps (not more than 7 minutes, 15 minutes discussion) > > > > Part B: > > -- Wolfgang Kleinwächter speaks on the current status of CSTD WG and next steps > > Theresa Swinehart, Business views > (5-7 minutes each, 10 minutes discussion) > > > > > Part C: > > -- Bill Drake: background and context about the WCIT > > -- Sally Wentworth: status of WCIT preparations at the ITU and in regional groupings, next steps > > -- Carlos Gutiérrez (Costa Rica): government perspectives > > -- (not more than 5 minutes each) (Discussion 20 minutes) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Mon Mar 12 13:19:27 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:19:27 +0000 Subject: [governance] Fw: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms In-Reply-To: <1331492569.15625.YahooMailNeo@web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <0.0.15.577.1CCFFB8780AD9B8.0@smtp7.icpbounce.com> <1331492569.15625.YahooMailNeo@web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CD346@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Imran and other colleagues in IGC: ICANN is asking for people to volunteer to be on one of its own working groups, the ATRT. I do not think IGC should form a separate working group; it could, instead, put forward people from this group who would serve on the ATRT. The specific topics of this team will be the Reconsideration and Independent Review Process (IRP). These are two alleged accountability mechanisms in ICANN that are known to be weak. I participated in the Independent Review Process (IRP) during .xxx’s challenge to the Board decision trying to reject .xxx. I therefore have experience with the IRP and its strengths and weaknesses, and have written analytical work on ICANN’s accountability issues, and thus I could be considered an “independent expert” of the sort requested. Therefore if there is support from IGC I would be willing to volunteer for it. If there are other people the IGC thinks qualified to put on it that would be good, too. From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Imran Ahmed Shah Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:03 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Fw: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms We can particiapte to review Accountability Mechanisms, however, can an organization or a WG take this role to review? If possible, I suggest IGC CS to establish a WG. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: ICANN News Alert > To: ias_pk at yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, 11 March 2012, 23:55 Subject: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms ICANN News Alert http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11mar12-en.htm ________________________________ ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms 11 March 2012 The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is seeking expressions of interest to serve on a committee of independent experts to review ICANN's Accountability Mechanisms. The Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT), organized under the Affirmation of Commitments, recommended that ICANN convene a group of experts to review ICANN's Reconsideration and Independent Review Processes, such as the costs and spectrum of Board decisions subject to review. The ATRT also suggested that the group of experts review additional proposed mechanisms suggested in 2009 by ICANN's President's Strategy Committee. Finally, the ATRT called for a review of the standards for bringing a Request for Reconsideration. Based on the nature of review mechanisms, as well as the separate ATRT recommendations relating to the Ombudsman's office and its interaction with the Board, it is understood that this group of independent experts shall focus on a review of the Reconsideration process and the Independent Review process. Further information on the accountability mechanisms subject to review and proposed qualifications for service on the group of independent experts is available here http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/mechanisms-experts-eoi-11mar12-en.htm. 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:22:41 +1200 Subject: [governance] Fw: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CD346@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <0.0.15.577.1CCFFB8780AD9B8.0@smtp7.icpbounce.com> <1331492569.15625.YahooMailNeo@web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CD346@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: I agree with you Milton, there is no need for a separate Working Group unless otherwise decided by the majority. I support the idea of people getting involved by participating and have no problems with Milton participating in this Working Group. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > Imran and other colleagues in IGC:**** > > ** ** > > ICANN is asking for people to volunteer to be on one of its own working > groups, the ATRT. **** > > I do not think IGC should form a separate working group; it could, > instead, put forward people from this group who would serve on the ATRT. * > *** > > The specific topics of this team will be the Reconsideration and > Independent Review Process (IRP). **** > > These are two alleged accountability mechanisms in ICANN that are known to > be weak. **** > > I participated in the Independent Review Process (IRP) during .xxx’s > challenge to the Board decision trying to reject .xxx. **** > > I therefore have experience with the IRP and its strengths and weaknesses, > and have written analytical work on ICANN’s accountability issues, and thus > I could be considered an “independent expert” of the sort requested. > Therefore if there is support from IGC I would be willing to volunteer for > it. If there are other people the IGC thinks qualified to put on it that > would be good, too. **** > > ** ** > > *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto: > governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Imran Ahmed Shah > *Sent:* Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:03 PM > *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org > *Subject:* [governance] Fw: ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions > of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms**** > > ** ** > > We can particiapte to review Accountability Mechanisms, however, can an > organization or a WG take this role to review?**** > > If possible, I suggest IGC CS to establish a WG.**** > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* ICANN News Alert > *To:* ias_pk at yahoo.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 11 March 2012, 23:55 > *Subject:* ICANN News Alert -- ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for > Review of Accountability Mechanisms**** > > > ICANN News Alert > > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11mar12-en.htm > > ________________________________ > > ICANN Seeks Expressions of Interest for Review of Accountability Mechanisms > > 11 March 2012 > > The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is seeking > expressions of interest to serve on a committee of independent experts to > review ICANN's Accountability Mechanisms. > > The Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT), organized under > the Affirmation of Commitments, recommended that ICANN convene a group of > experts to review ICANN's Reconsideration and Independent Review Processes, > such as the costs and spectrum of Board decisions subject to review. The > ATRT also suggested that the group of experts review additional proposed > mechanisms suggested in 2009 by ICANN's President's Strategy Committee. > Finally, the ATRT called for a review of the standards for bringing a > Request for Reconsideration. > > Based on the nature of review mechanisms, as well as the separate ATRT > recommendations relating to the Ombudsman's office and its interaction with > the Board, it is understood that this group of independent experts shall > focus on a review of the Reconsideration process and the Independent Review > process. > > Further information on the accountability mechanisms subject to review and > proposed qualifications for service on the group of independent experts is > available here > http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/mechanisms-experts-eoi-11mar12-en.htm > . > > > > This message was sent to ias_pk at yahoo.com from: > ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way > Suite 330 > | Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 > > Manage Your Subscription: > > http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=10782720&l=6333&s=GVKU&m=876640&c=165637 > > > > > **** > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From william.drake at uzh.ch Mon Mar 12 13:44:37 2012 From: william.drake at uzh.ch (William Drake) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:44:37 -0600 Subject: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape today In-Reply-To: <6D458268-2096-4B44-AC41-5F1BD710B7B2@uzh.ch> References: <6D458268-2096-4B44-AC41-5F1BD710B7B2@uzh.ch> Message-ID: <3DC8BEEB-A506-4B7D-9EF5-1749F55572BE@uzh.ch> Sala is sitting next to me and points out the the snippet I sent from Bill Graham about the program shows the wrong time. The right time is in the URL I sent. It is 16:30-18:00 Costa Rican time. On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:15 AM, William Drake wrote: > > > http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 > > > > On 2012-03-11, at 5:38 PM, Bill Graham wrote: > > > > > Please note that our session has been rescheduled again because of a scheduling conflict with the WHOIS Review Team Session. It is now from 13:00-15:00 (2 hours) in Room La Paz A/C. > > > > > > Because this is a very late change to the schedule *please* notify all of your contacts who may be interested and encourage them to come. > > > > > > The current plan for the session is to have the following people on stage to speak as follows: > > > > > > Part A: > > > -- Chengetai Masango: status of preparations for the IGF and next steps (not more than 7 minutes, 15 minutes discussion) > > > > > > Part B: > > > -- Wolfgang Kleinwächter speaks on the current status of CSTD WG and next steps > > > > Theresa Swinehart, Business views > > (5-7 minutes each, 10 minutes discussion) > > > > > > > > Part C: > > > -- Bill Drake: background and context about the WCIT > > > -- Sally Wentworth: status of WCIT preparations at the ITU and in regional groupings, next steps > > > -- Carlos Gutiérrez (Costa Rica): government perspectives > > > -- (not more than 5 minutes each) (Discussion 20 minutes) > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 13:48:39 2012 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:48:39 +0000 Subject: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape today In-Reply-To: <3DC8BEEB-A506-4B7D-9EF5-1749F55572BE@uzh.ch> References: <6D458268-2096-4B44-AC41-5F1BD710B7B2@uzh.ch>,<3DC8BEEB-A506-4B7D-9EF5-1749F55572BE@uzh.ch> Message-ID: Thanks Bill for the clarification. I was getting confused since the WHOIS Review Team Session is scheduled for 13-15.00 slot in the programme. RgdsGG ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World! From: william.drake at uzh.ch Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:44:37 -0600 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; william.drake at uzh.ch Subject: Re: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape today Sala is sitting next to me and points out the the snippet I sent from Bill Graham about the program shows the wrong time. The right time is in the URL I sent. It is 16:30-18:00 Costa Rican time. On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:15 AM, William Drake wrote: http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 > On 2012-03-11, at 5:38 PM, Bill Graham wrote: > > > Please note that our session has been rescheduled again because of a scheduling conflict with the WHOIS Review Team Session. It is now from 13:00-15:00 (2 hours) in Room La Paz A/C. > > > > Because this is a very late change to the schedule *please* notify all of your contacts who may be interested and encourage them to come. > > > > The current plan for the session is to have the following people on stage to speak as follows: > > > > Part A: > > -- Chengetai Masango: status of preparations for the IGF and next steps (not more than 7 minutes, 15 minutes discussion) > > > > Part B: > > -- Wolfgang Kleinwächter speaks on the current status of CSTD WG and next steps > > Theresa Swinehart, Business views > (5-7 minutes each, 10 minutes discussion) > > > > > Part C: > > -- Bill Drake: background and context about the WCIT > > -- Sally Wentworth: status of WCIT preparations at the ITU and in regional groupings, next steps > > -- Carlos Gutiérrez (Costa Rica): government perspectives > > -- (not more than 5 minutes each) (Discussion 20 minutes)____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 13:58:09 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:58:09 +1200 Subject: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape today In-Reply-To: References: <6D458268-2096-4B44-AC41-5F1BD710B7B2@uzh.ch> <3DC8BEEB-A506-4B7D-9EF5-1749F55572BE@uzh.ch> Message-ID: I would like to encourage everyone to stream in and remotely participate. ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape For those in San Jose and remotely streaming in, it is at 16:30 to 18:00 TODAY in* Orquideas* [Please note the change in the venue] http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Grace Githaiga wrote: > Thanks Bill for the clarification. I was getting confused since the WHOIS > Review Team Session is scheduled for 13-15.00 slot in the programme. > > Rgds > GG > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life > is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go > forth and rule the World! > > > ------------------------------ > From: william.drake at uzh.ch > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:44:37 -0600 > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; william.drake at uzh.ch > Subject: Re: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the > Internet Governance Landscape today > > > Sala is sitting next to me and points out the the snippet I sent from Bill > Graham about the program shows the wrong time. The right time is in the > URL I sent. It is 16:30-18:00 Costa Rican time. > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:15 AM, William Drake wrote: > > > > http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 > > > > On 2012-03-11, at 5:38 PM, Bill Graham wrote: > > > > > Please note that our session has been rescheduled again because of a > scheduling conflict with the WHOIS Review Team Session. It is now from > 13:00-15:00 (2 hours) in Room La Paz A/C. > > > > > > Because this is a very late change to the schedule *please* notify all > of your contacts who may be interested and encourage them to come. > > > > > > The current plan for the session is to have the following people on > stage to speak as follows: > > > > > > Part A: > > > -- Chengetai Masango: status of preparations for the IGF and next > steps (not more than 7 minutes, 15 minutes discussion) > > > > > > Part B: > > > -- Wolfgang Kleinwächter speaks on the current status of CSTD WG and > next steps > > > > Theresa Swinehart, Business views > > (5-7 minutes each, 10 minutes discussion) > > > > > > > > Part C: > > > -- Bill Drake: background and context about the WCIT > > > -- Sally Wentworth: status of WCIT preparations at the ITU and in > regional groupings, next steps > > > -- Carlos Gutiérrez (Costa Rica): government perspectives > > > -- (not more than 5 minutes each) (Discussion 20 minutes) > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From eiriarte at alfa-redi.org Mon Mar 12 14:17:06 2012 From: eiriarte at alfa-redi.org (Erick Iriarte Ahon) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:17:06 -0500 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla en la inauguracion de #icann43 References: <97033F6F-17DC-40B7-812E-FBC021743A1B@alfa-redi.org> Message-ID: FYI Inicio del mensaje reenviado: > De: Erick Iriarte Ahon > Fecha: 12 de marzo de 2012 13:16:07 GMT-05:00 > Para: "ag at lactld.org General de LACTLD" , "Foro de Derecho Informático." > Cc: LatinoamerICANN LatinoamerICANN > Asunto: Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla en la inauguracion de #icann43 > > Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla (@Laura_Ch) en la inauguracion de #icann43 - bit.ly/xDUtFn <- de lectura obligatoria #icann #cctld > > San José, 12 de Marzo del 2012 > > Amigas y amigos: > > A los que hoy se encuentran aquí con nosotros y a quienes nos siguen a través del ciberespacio, sean ustedes cordialmente bienvenidos al encuentro ICANN 43, que en esta ocasión se realiza en este excepcional país que es Costa Rica. > > Esta tierra de paz, libertad y exhuberante naturaleza, enclavada en la cintura de América, agradece el honor de haber sido escogida para tan importante encuentro. Hace rato lo esperábamos, porque hay mucho de simbólico entre lo que ICANN representa y promueve y los valores que abriga el alma de mi pueblo. > > Son ustedes una de las comunidades que mejor comprende la importancia del conocimiento para el progreso humano. Es gracias a ese conocimiento siempre en evolución, que hemos logrado ser testigos de una de las mayores revoluciones de la humanidad: la revolución digital. En mi país, entendimos de manera muy temprana, el valor del conocimiento y desde entonces lo hemos cultivado. Decretamos la educación gratuita y universal desde 1869, antes que cualquier otro país de América Latina, antes que Inglaterra o que los Estados Unidos de América. Gracias a esa inversión en capital humano, somos hoy el mayor exportador de tecnología de la región y de los más aventajados en materia de innovación. > > Son ustedes la más revolucionaria de las comunidades globales de nuestro tiempo, al defender los valores de la libertad y del acceso democrático al ciberespacio. Uno de sus lemas en la construcción de la internet es de “abajo hacia arriba”. Mi país, también se forjó, de abajo hacia arriba. Nacimos como una comunidad de pequeños agricultores y pequeños propietarios que alimentaron con éxito una democracia política, social y económica. En 1948 decidimos consolidar lo mejor de nuestros valores cívicos, y nos convertirnos en la primera nación del mundo sin fuerzas armadas. A diferencia de otras naciones de nuestro entorno, optamos por resolver nuestras disputas por la vía de las urnas y no de las armas, decidimos invertir en libros, escuelas y maestros y no en armas, cuarteles y soldados. Esta trayectoria ha hecho que seamos la democracia más estable y antigua de América Latina. > > Son ustedes, quienes al promover la virtualidad en los encuentros internacionales, contribuyen a mitigar la huella de carbono que dejamos los seres humanos cada vez que nos desplazamos entre nuestras respectivas naciones. Costa Rica como país anfitrión de ICANN, siente también el merecido reconocimiento a una profunda vocación de amor a la naturaleza. En tan sólo 0.03% del territorio mundial, albergamos cerca del 5% de la biodiversidad del mundo. Hace más de cuarenta años decidimos preservar este increíble patrimonio natural, dedicando cerca del 30% del territorio a regímenes especiales de protección ambiental. Como resultado de estos esfuerzos, hoy somos el quinto país en el mundo que más protege el medio ambiente y aspiramos a convertirnos en uno de los primeros países carbono neutral del planeta. > > Son ustedes también, la comunidad tecnológica más exigente del mundo. Sabíamos que la designación de Costa Rica como sede latinoamericana de esta reunión obedecía a un profundo escrutinio de nuestras capacidades tecnológicas y digitales. Su confianza nos comprometió a garantizarles el mejor acceso y facilidad de tráfico de información con el resto del planeta. Desde esta sede donde nos encontramos, están operando dos conexiones de 1 Gigabit por segundo, enlazadas a anillos interoceánicos que las llevan al mundo entero, tanto por el Océano Pacífico, como por el mar Caribe. > > Costa Rica es la nación más conectada de esta región. Tenemos cinco accesos a las redes internacionales -Cable Maya, Cable Arcos, Cable Globalcrossing, Cable Panamericano y acceso Satelital-. Promovemos activamente las soluciones basadas en la nube y para ello estamos concluyendo la construcción del segundo Data Center certificado Tier 4 por el Uptime Institute. De hecho aspiramos a convertirnos en el Network Access Point (NAP) o puerta de entrada de la economía digital de Centro América y el Caribe. > > > > Sin embargo, para nosotros los costarricenses, no basta el estar bien conectados con el mundo, también queremos conectarnos de la mejor manera posible entre nosotros mismos. Por ello, hace un año le lancé un reto a mi país: que junto con el pacto social con la paz y el pacto social por la naturaleza que ya habíamos adoptado, suscribiéramos también un pacto social digital. > > Es éste un acuerdo que nos permitirá a las y los costarricenses, dar un salto cualitativo en nuestro desarrollo, transitando de una economía basada en factores de producción y eficiencia, hacia una economía basada en la innovación. Un acuerdo que nos permitirá en pocos años desarrollar una infraestructura de banda ancha, muy ancha, simétrica y sobre todo neutral y superar la barrera de 15% de penetración de nuestra región, para convertirnos en uno de los países más conectados de la América Latina. Un acuerdo que gracias al enfoque solidario que estamos promoviendo, hará posible el cierre de las brechas digitales, al garantizar acceso gratuito a banda ancha y a tecnologías digitales, a los sectores más rezagados de nuestra población y al 100% de los centros educativos del país. > > Es justo reconocer que en este proceso, no estamos partiendo de cero. Gracias a la fuerte apuesta que hizo nuestro país en el área de la informática educativa hace más de dos décadas, Costa Rica muestra grandes avances en materia de tecnologías digitales. El esfuerzo hasta ahora realizado por nuestro país ha sido reconocido por el Foro Económico Mundial al destacar que Costa Rica está entre las diez naciones del mundo cuya población se encuentra mejor preparada para aprovechar las ventajas de la tecnología digital. > > Mi administración, además, está usando internet para transformar la manera como interactúa el Gobierno con las empresas y la ciudadanía, simplificando trámites y haciendo más eficiente la prestación de servicios y masificando el uso de la firma digital. Costa Rica está de lleno integrada al movimiento internacional que construye Gobiernos Digitales para su ciudadanía, buscando mejorar su calidad de vida, hacer más competitivo y eficiente al Estado, aumentar la productividad de nuestras empresas y atraer, de una forma más dinámica, la inversión extranjera. > > Estimadas amigas y amigos: > > ICANN 43 acontece en un momento especial de la historia de Internet. Estamos llegando a un punto de inflexión no sólo en el terreno de número de direcciones, sino también de la gobernanza de la RED. > > Desde el punto de vista tecnológico, estamos en proceso de iniciar la transición a la versión 6 del Protocolo de Internet. Esto resolverá el temprano agotamiento de las direcciones IP. Además de que IP versión 6, tiene funcionalidades nativas de seguridad y de movilidad que es la principal transformación que el mundo digital está experimentando. Finalmente nos va a facilitar la migración de tecnologías analógicas y digitales a IP, como televisión por internet que nuestro país ha iniciado y que culminará en el año 2017. A las puertas está también la posibilidad de ampliación del Sistema de Nombres de Dominio, permitiendo una mayor individuación. Cuentan ustedes con todo el apoyo de nuestro país para el desarrollo e implementación de estos cambios que impactarán positivamente el desarrollo del mundo digital. > > Pero los temas de mayor relevancia que nos convocan son de orden político, ético y normativo. Nos encontramos en la transición hacia la WEB 2.0 que significa la evolución a una nueva generación de aplicaciones para Internet que facilitan compartir información, interoperabilidad, diseño centrado en la experiencia del usuario y colaboración. Esta evolución promete transformar de manera todavía más radical la forma en la que nos comunicamos, producimos, comerciamos y educamos. El potencial de transformación es tan grande, que como contrapartida ha generado una serie de intentos de regulación de la red. Entre ellos se encuentran la Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) que busca la protección de la Propiedad Intelectual mediante restricciones en el direccionamiento, y la Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA) que busca extender una especie de jurisdicción nacional a todo el ciberespacio. Ambas nos preocupan y respaldamos más bien alternativas como Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act (OPEN) que no busca ejercer funciones restrictivas y policiales en el ciberespacio, sino que se enfoca en rastrear y limitar pagos a websites ilegítimos, sin limitar en forma general el potencial de transformación social que ofrece el WEB 2.0. > > En el área de la seguridad, la prioridad deber ser la protección de los niños y las niñas. Tengo el honor de ser la madrina del Programa promovido por la Unión Internacional de las Telecomunicaciones conocido como “Child Online Protection”, gracias al cual se identifican los riesgos del ciberespacio para la poblacion infantil del planeta, se crea conciencia sobre los mismos, se intercambian experiencias y se diseñan herramientas efectivas de protección. > > Las legítimas preocupaciones por la privacidad, la seguridad y la protección de la propiedad intelectual, no deben convertirse en excusas para justificar tendencias que busquen ejercer funciones altamente restrictivas en el ciberespacio. Abogamos por un modelo que garantice la privacidad y la seguridad dentro de esquemas de acceso universal. Abogamos por una gobernanza que refuerce la característica más marcada de la WEB, que ha comprendido que su crecimiento exponencial debe responder, al carácter necesariamente diversificado y múltiple de los viajeros del ciberespacio. Es decir, una vigilancia efectiva que no limite el mayor potencial de la internet que es el acceso democrático a la misma. Internet es de todos y todos debemos participar en el debate sobre las reglas que la deben regir. El diseño de su gobernanza debe basarse en un enfoque de “multistakeholder” en donde, con independencia de nuestro tamaño, poder financiero, político o corporativo, podamos concurrir en un proceso de construcción de confianza recíproca que permita fortalecer mecanismos de coordinación y de organización de carácter democrático. > > Internet es la gran ocasión que nos brinda la historia para no repetir los errores del pasado que condujeron al diseño de instituciones para la gobernanza internacional, burocratizadas, verticales y cerradas. > > Internet no debe concebirse como una amenaza, sino como una esperanza. Es la esperanza de un mundo integrado, sin fronteras que nos separen; de un mundo compartido, sin dueños que nos controlen; de un mundo de oportunidades ilimitadas e iguales para todos. Es la utopía con la que por mucho tiempo soñamos: la utopía de un mundo en donde todos y cada uno de nosotros somos protagonistas de un destino que está en nuestras manos construir. > > Muchas gracias! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Connection is good, and audio & Adobe platform works great. As like in IGF meetings - What isn't working is the - engagement - of those participating remotely. Please make it known that people should monitor the virtual space for comments and/or requests for people to make interventions. Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org On 2012-03-12, at 1:58 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > I would like to encourage everyone to stream in and remotely participate. > > ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape > For those in San Jose and remotely streaming in, it is at 16:30 to 18:00 TODAY in Orquideas > > [Please note the change in the venue] > > http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Grace Githaiga wrote: > Thanks Bill for the clarification. I was getting confused since the WHOIS Review Team Session is scheduled for 13-15.00 slot in the programme. > > Rgds > GG > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World! > > > From: william.drake at uzh.ch > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:44:37 -0600 > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; william.drake at uzh.ch > Subject: Re: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape today > > > Sala is sitting next to me and points out the the snippet I sent from Bill Graham about the program shows the wrong time. The right time is in the URL I sent. It is 16:30-18:00 Costa Rican time. > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:15 AM, William Drake wrote: > > > > http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 > > > > On 2012-03-11, at 5:38 PM, Bill Graham wrote: > > > > > Please note that our session has been rescheduled again because of a scheduling conflict with the WHOIS Review Team Session. It is now from 13:00-15:00 (2 hours) in Room La Paz A/C. > > > > > > Because this is a very late change to the schedule *please* notify all of your contacts who may be interested and encourage them to come. > > > > > > The current plan for the session is to have the following people on stage to speak as follows: > > > > > > Part A: > > > -- Chengetai Masango: status of preparations for the IGF and next steps (not more than 7 minutes, 15 minutes discussion) > > > > > > Part B: > > > -- Wolfgang Kleinwächter speaks on the current status of CSTD WG and next steps > > > > Theresa Swinehart, Business views > > (5-7 minutes each, 10 minutes discussion) > > > > > > > > Part C: > > > -- Bill Drake: background and context about the WCIT > > > -- Sally Wentworth: status of WCIT preparations at the ITU and in regional groupings, next steps > > > -- Carlos Gutiérrez (Costa Rica): government perspectives > > > -- (not more than 5 minutes each) (Discussion 20 minutes) > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Mon Mar 12 14:22:31 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:22:31 +0900 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [kictanet] Fwd: IGF 2012 Call for Workshop Proposals. In-Reply-To: <1331574746.5054.140661048185949@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1331574746.5054.140661048185949@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Call for workshops, IGF 2012. See f Adam ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: waudo siganga Date: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:52 AM Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: IGF 2012 Call for Workshop Proposals. To: ajp at glocom.ac.jp Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Apologies for any cross-postings. Kindly note that the call for workshop proposals for the IGF Baku meeting is out with a deadline of 12th April. ----- Original message ----- From: "Chengetai Masango" To: "igf Forum" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:22:43 -0600 Subject: [igf_members] 2012 Call for Workshop Proposals. Dear All, The 2012 call for workshop proposals will go up on the IGF website tomorrow afternoon CET (Monday). http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 The deadline for submission has been set for 12 April 2012. I would be grateful if you could spread the word to your respective stakeholder groups. 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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From amedinagomez at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 14:22:59 2012 From: amedinagomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Antonio_Medina_G=F3mez?=) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:22:59 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla en la inauguracion de #icann43 In-Reply-To: References: <97033F6F-17DC-40B7-812E-FBC021743A1B@alfa-redi.org> Message-ID: Gracias Erick. Un abrazo Antonio Medina El 12 de marzo de 2012 15:17, Erick Iriarte Ahon escribió: > FYI > > Inicio del mensaje reenviado: > > *De: *Erick Iriarte Ahon > *Fecha: *12 de marzo de 2012 13:16:07 GMT-05:00 > *Para: *"ag at lactld.org General de LACTLD" , "Foro de > Derecho Informático." > *Cc: *LatinoamerICANN LatinoamerICANN > *Asunto: **Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla en la inauguracion de > #icann43* > > Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla (@Laura_Ch) en la inauguracion de > #icann43 - bit.ly/xDUtFn <- de lectura obligatoria #icann #cctld > > San José, 12 de Marzo del 2012 > > Amigas y amigos: > > A los que hoy se encuentran aquí con nosotros y a quienes nos siguen a > través del ciberespacio, sean ustedes cordialmente bienvenidos al encuentro > ICANN 43, que en esta ocasión se realiza en este excepcional país que es > Costa Rica. > > Esta tierra de paz, libertad y exhuberante naturaleza, enclavada en la > cintura de América, agradece el honor de haber sido escogida para tan > importante encuentro. Hace rato lo esperábamos, porque hay mucho de > simbólico entre lo que ICANN representa y promueve y los valores que abriga > el alma de mi pueblo. > > Son ustedes una de las comunidades que mejor comprende la importancia del > conocimiento para el progreso humano. Es gracias a ese conocimiento siempre > en evolución, que hemos logrado ser testigos de una de las mayores > revoluciones de la humanidad: la revolución digital. En mi país, > entendimos de manera muy temprana, el valor del conocimiento y desde > entonces lo hemos cultivado. Decretamos la educación gratuita y universal > desde 1869, antes que cualquier otro país de América Latina, antes que > Inglaterra o que los Estados Unidos de América. Gracias a esa inversión en > capital humano, somos hoy el mayor exportador de tecnología de la región y > de los más aventajados en materia de innovación. > > Son ustedes la más revolucionaria de las comunidades globales de nuestro > tiempo, al defender los valores de la libertad y del acceso democrático al > ciberespacio. Uno de sus lemas en la construcción de la internet es de > “abajo hacia arriba”. Mi país, también se forjó, de abajo hacia arriba. > Nacimos como una comunidad de pequeños agricultores y pequeños > propietarios que alimentaron con éxito una democracia política, social y > económica. En 1948 decidimos consolidar lo mejor de nuestros valores > cívicos, y nos convertirnos en la primera nación del mundo sin fuerzas > armadas. A diferencia de otras naciones de nuestro entorno, optamos por > resolver nuestras disputas por la vía de las urnas y no de las armas, > decidimos invertir en libros, escuelas y maestros y no en armas, cuarteles > y soldados. Esta trayectoria ha hecho que seamos la democracia más estable > y antigua de América Latina. > > Son ustedes, quienes al promover la virtualidad en los encuentros > internacionales, contribuyen a mitigar la huella de carbono que dejamos los > seres humanos cada vez que nos desplazamos entre nuestras respectivas > naciones. Costa Rica como país anfitrión de ICANN, siente también el > merecido reconocimiento a una profunda vocación de amor a la naturaleza. > En tan sólo 0.03% del territorio mundial, albergamos cerca del 5% de la > biodiversidad del mundo. Hace más de cuarenta años decidimos preservar > este increíble patrimonio natural, dedicando cerca del 30% del territorio a > regímenes especiales de protección ambiental. Como resultado de estos > esfuerzos, hoy somos el quinto país en el mundo que más protege el medio > ambiente y aspiramos a convertirnos en uno de los primeros países carbono > neutral del planeta. > > Son ustedes también, la comunidad tecnológica más exigente del mundo. > Sabíamos que la designación de Costa Rica como sede latinoamericana de > esta reunión obedecía a un profundo escrutinio de nuestras capacidades > tecnológicas y digitales. Su confianza nos comprometió a garantizarles el > mejor acceso y facilidad de tráfico de información con el resto del > planeta. Desde esta sede donde nos encontramos, están operando dos > conexiones de 1 Gigabit por segundo, enlazadas a anillos interoceánicos que > las llevan al mundo entero, tanto por el Océano Pacífico, como por el mar > Caribe. > > Costa Rica es la nación más conectada de esta región. Tenemos cinco > accesos a las redes internacionales -Cable Maya, Cable Arcos, Cable > Globalcrossing, Cable Panamericano y acceso Satelital-. Promovemos > activamente las soluciones basadas en la nube y para ello estamos > concluyendo la construcción del segundo Data Center certificado Tier 4 por > el Uptime Institute. De hecho aspiramos a convertirnos en el Network Access > Point (NAP) o puerta de entrada de la economía digital de Centro América y > el Caribe. > > > > Sin embargo, para nosotros los costarricenses, no basta el estar bien > conectados con el mundo, también queremos conectarnos de la mejor manera > posible entre nosotros mismos. Por ello, hace un año le lancé un reto a mi > país: que junto con el pacto social con la paz y el pacto social por la > naturaleza que ya habíamos adoptado, suscribiéramos también un pacto social > digital. > > Es éste un acuerdo que nos permitirá a las y los costarricenses, dar un > salto cualitativo en nuestro desarrollo, transitando de una economía basada > en factores de producción y eficiencia, hacia una economía basada en la > innovación. Un acuerdo que nos permitirá en pocos años desarrollar una > infraestructura de banda ancha, muy ancha, simétrica y sobre todo neutral y > superar la barrera de 15% de penetración de nuestra región, para > convertirnos en uno de los países más conectados de la América Latina. Un > acuerdo que gracias al enfoque solidario que estamos promoviendo, hará > posible el cierre de las brechas digitales, al garantizar acceso gratuito a > banda ancha y a tecnologías digitales, a los sectores más rezagados de > nuestra población y al 100% de los centros educativos del país. > > Es justo reconocer que en este proceso, no estamos partiendo de cero. > Gracias a la fuerte apuesta que hizo nuestro país en el área de la > informática educativa hace más de dos décadas, Costa Rica muestra grandes > avances en materia de tecnologías digitales. El esfuerzo hasta ahora > realizado por nuestro país ha sido reconocido por el Foro Económico Mundial > al destacar que Costa Rica está entre las diez naciones del mundo cuya > población se encuentra mejor preparada para aprovechar las ventajas de la > tecnología digital. > > Mi administración, además, está usando internet para transformar la manera > como interactúa el Gobierno con las empresas y la ciudadanía, simplificando > trámites y haciendo más eficiente la prestación de servicios y masificando > el uso de la firma digital. Costa Rica está de lleno integrada al > movimiento internacional que construye Gobiernos Digitales para su > ciudadanía, buscando mejorar su calidad de vida, hacer más competitivo y > eficiente al Estado, aumentar la productividad de nuestras empresas y > atraer, de una forma más dinámica, la inversión extranjera. > > Estimadas amigas y amigos: > > ICANN 43 acontece en un momento especial de la historia de Internet. > Estamos llegando a un punto de inflexión no sólo en el terreno de número > de direcciones, sino también de la gobernanza de la RED. > > Desde el punto de vista tecnológico, estamos en proceso de iniciar la > transición a la versión 6 del Protocolo de Internet. Esto resolverá el > temprano agotamiento de las direcciones IP. Además de que IP versión 6, > tiene funcionalidades nativas de seguridad y de movilidad que es la > principal transformación que el mundo digital está experimentando. > Finalmente nos va a facilitar la migración de tecnologías analógicas y > digitales a IP, como televisión por internet que nuestro país ha iniciado y > que culminará en el año 2017. A las puertas está también la posibilidad de > ampliación del Sistema de Nombres de Dominio, permitiendo una mayor > individuación. Cuentan ustedes con todo el apoyo de nuestro país para el > desarrollo e implementación de estos cambios que impactarán positivamente > el desarrollo del mundo digital. > > Pero los temas de mayor relevancia que nos convocan son de orden político, > ético y normativo. Nos encontramos en la transición hacia la WEB 2.0 que > significa la evolución a una nueva generación de aplicaciones para Internet > que facilitan compartir información, interoperabilidad, diseño centrado en > la experiencia del usuario y colaboración. Esta evolución promete > transformar de manera todavía más radical la forma en la que nos > comunicamos, producimos, comerciamos y educamos. El potencial de > transformación es tan grande, que como contrapartida ha generado una serie > de intentos de regulación de la red. Entre ellos se encuentran la Stop > Online Piracy Act (SOPA) que busca la protección de la Propiedad > Intelectual mediante restricciones en el direccionamiento, y la Protect > Intellectual Property Act (PIPA) que busca extender una especie de > jurisdicción nacional a todo el ciberespacio. Ambas nos preocupan y > respaldamos más bien alternativas como Online Protection and Enforcement of > Digital Trade Act (OPEN) que no busca ejercer funciones restrictivas y > policiales en el ciberespacio, sino que se enfoca en rastrear y limitar > pagos a websites ilegítimos, sin limitar en forma general el potencial de > transformación social que ofrece el WEB 2.0. > > En el área de la seguridad, la prioridad deber ser la protección de los > niños y las niñas. Tengo el honor de ser la madrina del Programa promovido > por la Unión Internacional de las Telecomunicaciones conocido como “Child > Online Protection”, gracias al cual se identifican los riesgos del > ciberespacio para la poblacion infantil del planeta, se crea conciencia > sobre los mismos, se intercambian experiencias y se diseñan herramientas > efectivas de protección. > > Las legítimas preocupaciones por la privacidad, la seguridad y la > protección de la propiedad intelectual, no deben convertirse en excusas > para justificar tendencias que busquen ejercer funciones altamente > restrictivas en el ciberespacio. Abogamos por un modelo que garantice la > privacidad y la seguridad dentro de esquemas de acceso universal. Abogamos > por una gobernanza que refuerce la característica más marcada de la WEB, > que ha comprendido que su crecimiento exponencial debe responder, al > carácter necesariamente diversificado y múltiple de los viajeros del > ciberespacio. Es decir, una vigilancia efectiva que no limite el mayor > potencial de la internet que es el acceso democrático a la misma. Internet > es de todos y todos debemos participar en el debate sobre las reglas que la > deben regir. El diseño de su gobernanza debe basarse en un enfoque de > “multistakeholder” en donde, con independencia de nuestro tamaño, poder > financiero, político o corporativo, podamos concurrir en un proceso de > construcción de confianza recíproca que permita fortalecer mecanismos de > coordinación y de organización de carácter democrático. > > Internet es la gran ocasión que nos brinda la historia para no repetir los > errores del pasado que condujeron al diseño de instituciones para la > gobernanza internacional, burocratizadas, verticales y cerradas. > > Internet no debe concebirse como una amenaza, sino como una esperanza. Es > la esperanza de un mundo integrado, sin fronteras que nos separen; de un > mundo compartido, sin dueños que nos controlen; de un mundo de > oportunidades ilimitadas e iguales para todos. Es la utopía con la que por > mucho tiempo soñamos: la utopía de un mundo en donde todos y cada uno de > nosotros somos protagonistas de un destino que está en nuestras manos > construir. > > Muchas gracias! > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Mon Mar 12 14:54:16 2012 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:54:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: [governance] Fwd: [kictanet] Fwd: IGF 2012 Call for Workshop Proposals. In-Reply-To: (message from Adam Peake on Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:22:31 +0900) References: <1331574746.5054.140661048185949@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20120312185416.4DF9F787D@quill.bollow.ch> Thanks, Adam, for sharing this. The deadline strikes me as rather tight, to go from the initial information on what they're looking for to submitting a proposal complete with a list of panelist names and background papers, in about a month or less. Greetings, Norbert Adam Peake wrote: > ----- Original message ----- > From: "Chengetai Masango" > To: "igf Forum" > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:22:43 -0600 > Subject: [igf_members] 2012 Call for Workshop Proposals. > Dear All, > > The 2012 call for workshop proposals will go up on the IGF website > tomorrow afternoon CET (Monday). > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 > > The deadline for submission has been set for 12 April 2012. > > I would be grateful if you could spread the word to your respective > stakeholder groups. > > Best regards > > Chengetai -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 15:11:07 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:11:07 +1200 Subject: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape today In-Reply-To: References: <6D458268-2096-4B44-AC41-5F1BD710B7B2@uzh.ch> <3DC8BEEB-A506-4B7D-9EF5-1749F55572BE@uzh.ch> Message-ID: Dear Robert, I have raised this with some of the Staff and they will relay the message to the appropriate people. Kind Regards, On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Sala, > > I am following several of the ICANN sessions remotely. > > Connection is good, and audio & Adobe platform works great. > > As like in IGF meetings - What isn't working is the - engagement - of > those participating remotely. Please make it known that people should > monitor the virtual space for comments and/or requests for people to make > interventions. > > Robert > > -- > R. Guerra > Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 > Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom > Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > > On 2012-03-12, at 1:58 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > > I would like to encourage everyone to stream in and remotely participate. > > ICANN and the Internet Governance Landscape > For those in San Jose and remotely streaming in, it is at 16:30 to 18:00 > TODAY in* Orquideas* > > [Please note the change in the venue] > > http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Grace Githaiga wrote: > >> Thanks Bill for the clarification. I was getting confused since the >> WHOIS Review Team Session is scheduled for 13-15.00 slot in the programme. >> >> Rgds >> GG >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life >> is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go >> forth and rule the World! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: william.drake at uzh.ch >> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:44:37 -0600 >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; william.drake at uzh.ch >> Subject: Re: [governance] Remote participation: workshop on ICANN and the >> Internet Governance Landscape today >> >> >> Sala is sitting next to me and points out the the snippet I sent from >> Bill Graham about the program shows the wrong time. The right time is in >> the URL I sent. It is 16:30-18:00 Costa Rican time. >> >> On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:15 AM, William Drake wrote: >> >> >> >> http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 >> >> >> > On 2012-03-11, at 5:38 PM, Bill Graham wrote: >> > >> > > Please note that our session has been rescheduled again because of a >> scheduling conflict with the WHOIS Review Team Session. It is now from >> 13:00-15:00 (2 hours) in Room La Paz A/C. >> > > >> > > Because this is a very late change to the schedule *please* notify >> all of your contacts who may be interested and encourage them to come. >> > > >> > > The current plan for the session is to have the following people on >> stage to speak as follows: >> > > >> > > Part A: >> > > -- Chengetai Masango: status of preparations for the IGF and next >> steps (not more than 7 minutes, 15 minutes discussion) >> > > >> > > Part B: >> > > -- Wolfgang Kleinwächter speaks on the current status of CSTD WG and >> next steps >> > >> > Theresa Swinehart, Business views >> > (5-7 minutes each, 10 minutes discussion) >> > >> > > >> > > Part C: >> > > -- Bill Drake: background and context about the WCIT >> > > -- Sally Wentworth: status of WCIT preparations at the ITU and in >> regional groupings, next steps >> > > -- Carlos Gutiérrez (Costa Rica): government perspectives >> > > -- (not more than 5 minutes each) (Discussion 20 minutes) >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you visit the Schedule in the link I sent yesterday, you can stream in remotely and participate. -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best to all, M -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From karl at cavebear.com Mon Mar 12 15:35:11 2012 From: karl at cavebear.com (Karl Auerbach) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:35:11 -0700 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5DBD2D.2020805@digsys.bg> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> <4F5DA0C5.2020806@digsys.bg> <4F5DB8BF.6020406@cavebear.com> <4F5DBD2D.2020805@digsys.bg> Message-ID: <4F5E4FEF.9070101@cavebear.com> On 03/12/2012 02:09 AM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > Unless of course, the alternative root operator has the "official" > DNSSEC keys in their possession. In which case they do, indeed own the > root. Each competing root system has its own "official" keys. That's why I said that when switching from one root to another whatever resolver the user is using needs to get a new set of startup hints and root keying information. On a comparative level-of-effort basis it is certainly a lot less effort to disseminate that information - information so small that could fit into a QR code - than it is to switch to IPv6. The real issue is where is the incentive to undertake that effort. > Your assumption, that one can reconfigure all of the Internet computers > to use different root could work.. only under controlled environment. > There is no way it could work on global scale. Which means there will be > many small Internet islands created, and today nobody want's to be on an > isolated island. Users will just change their ISP whatever, for the > "real thing". I disagree in a couple of ways. First is that as a general matter users do not like surprises. Thus, for example, if a root system X were to contain a deviate form of .com that root system would become disfavored and probably would die. Thus as I see it, competing roots would largely have an identical inventory consisting of all the standard TLDs, unchanged and unaltered, plus a few boutique TLDs that are striving for light and acceptance. Second is that there are people who really do want an island-based (or what I call a "lumpy" internet). Consider China, consider religious groups that want to shape the internet landscape they can perceive, consider those who want lumps/islands so that they can monitor, block, or tax inter-lump/inter-island flows. > Or, in summary -- this alternative root business is already game over. I take the opposite point of view; I believe that it has never really been tried. Were I to do it I would use the root position to do what Google does - data mine the query streams to produce analytics that I could sell to derive revenue. I'd take part of that revenue and use it to pay ISPs to switch to my root system - as Google has proven via its AdSense program giving people a taste does affect their behaviour. My own sense is that competing roots will occur also from another force - which is the slow fracturing of the internet as the net is stressed by the desire of countries to establish non-bypassable portals, by the desire of companies to data mine and limit traffic flows, by the desire of law enforcement to monitor and block, by failure of IPv6, and by the rise of application level gateways that allow the establishment of separate IPv4 spaces (i.e. a network of internets just as the internet is a network of networks.) The end-to-end principle has died and all that users today care about is whether their favorite Apps work - that means that elegant internet internal plumbing is no longer a visible feature that users care about. That change in perception opens the door wide to islands/lumps. > Or, in other words, right on the topic: we all want and need ICANN to > make up their mind and behave. ICANN is a handmaiden to several industrial and governmental groups and it has been since its inception. Based on that history, hoping that that the ICANN zebra will shed its strips is rather wishful. --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From karl at cavebear.com Mon Mar 12 15:37:03 2012 From: karl at cavebear.com (Karl Auerbach) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:37:03 -0700 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> <4F5DA0C5.2020806@digsys.bg> <4F5DB8BF.6020406@cavebear.com> <4F5DBD2D.2020805@digsys.bg> Message-ID: <4F5E505F.70806@cavebear.com> On 03/12/2012 04:33 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote: > A root including all known root zones is not an island. It's the whole > (uncensored) net. Users don't have to juggle with ISPs to enjoy it. You might find my note from more than 4 years ago to be amusing: It's title is "What would the internet be like had there been no ICANN?" http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000331.html --karl-- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at arin.net Mon Mar 12 15:41:30 2012 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:41:30 +0000 Subject: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ... In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CD2EF@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F522824-7156-4033-9569-9A79B1359EFD@privaterra.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC83F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <4F5CD86F.8050100@cafonso.ca> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CD2EF@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > Hi, I am too busy right now to wade through these responses and respond it detail. I will do that when I have time. First advice I would give people is to read the actual paper, not just the spin doctors' responses to it. Milton - Suggesting that folks read the paper is good advice... Similarly, when you do have the time, it might be good idea to read through these responses and either revise or issue errata on the paper as appropriate. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lara.pace at comnet.org.mt Mon Mar 12 15:36:19 2012 From: lara.pace at comnet.org.mt (Lara Pace) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:36:19 +0100 Subject: [governance] Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative at ICANN Message-ID: <26561296.421331580979843.JavaMail.root@email.comnet.org.mt> Dear All, For those of you out in San Jose, the Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative is convening a workshop to generate awareness on the Initiative and its current status: moving from concept to implementation. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 16:01:22 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:01:22 +0200 Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal In-Reply-To: <4F5E505F.70806@cavebear.com> References: <4F5BCF2D.5020509@uni-graz.at> <2472580E040C464E93A0237869BDC3E9@UserVAIO> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CC82C@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <132E3469-A690-4BC8-BFE9-DDA8865A6A8F@digsys.bg> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD20CCABC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8E847E5A-58B9-448E-8847-75C6E704477C@digsys.bg> <4F5D504F.8070206@cavebear.com> <4F5DA0C5.2020806@digsys.bg> <4F5DB8BF.6020406@cavebear.com> <4F5DBD2D.2020805@digsys.bg> <4F5E505F.70806@cavebear.com> Message-ID: <4F5E5612.7030408@gmail.com> That was some magical realism in the link, thanks for that post... to take this matter forward, especially since CSO platforms have the tendency to go toward the lowest common denominator in the quest for broad agreement, in another framing... that of sharpening contradictions Would it be possible to say that (apart from fence sitters, not pejorative at all) it would be possible to divide the community here into those who at different levels of abstraction have different views based on: 1. Technical possibility of another root (ay or nay) 2. Social possibility/desirability of another root (ay or nay: factors like legitimacy, need, competition etc) 3. Technosocial possibility of a root (all of the above holistically) It just seems like the same worn out issues get turned out on Ruling the Root (not feasible/desirable technically or socially) and perhaps things would be much easier if some flags were tied to the mast to see if there is a possibility for deeper alliances on this... if there is a need as reform and radicalism in the American context in particular has a special hue... riaz On 2012/03/12 09:37 PM, Karl Auerbach wrote: > On 03/12/2012 04:33 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote: > >> A root including all known root zones is not an island. It's the whole >> (uncensored) net. Users don't have to juggle with ISPs to enjoy it. > You might find my note from more than 4 years ago to be amusing: > > It's title is "What would the internet be like had there been no ICANN?" > > http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000331.html > > --karl-- > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 16:04:53 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:04:53 -0700 Subject: [governance] FW: Whooops FW: Gmail Hell(2), an Epilogue: They are the Borg and they are Too Big To Be Allowed To Fail (You and Me!) Message-ID: Whoops... http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/03/12/gmail-hell2-an-epilogue-they-are-th e-borg-and-they-are-too-big-to-be-allowed-to-fail/ Tiny URL: http://wp.me/pJQl5-92 This is my follow up blogpost to the earlier one and with apologies it is meant to act as a reply to all of those folks who sent me emails concerning this both publicly on lists such as this one and privately. Best to all, M -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 16:12:26 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:12:26 +0200 Subject: [governance] Euractiv - ACTA: a flawed agreement In-Reply-To: <823114DA9EFB274FA2BE0091A93CD6F48E4AB0@HAI-SRV-01.hai.local> References: <823114DA9EFB274FA2BE0091A93CD6F48E4AB0@HAI-SRV-01.hai.local> Message-ID: <4F5E58AA.6000709@gmail.com> [If anyone is concerned about ACTA and the rentier class that drives the agendas of the first world, see below for how these Intellectual Property Rights issues play out in arguably a more fundamental right, the right to health... all this hullabaloo when under WTO TRIPs agreement, developing countries have the right to issue a compulsory license (to copy) on any IPR, which was confirmed by a WTO declaration (after Big US Pharma vs Mandela!).. so this was an instance of developing countries arguing for the right to use legal rights! So after strengthening these rentier forces over the years, the demands for ACTA have come to full bloom that would make things harder than they are ... I guess its time once again for a "Welcome to the Third World" as the transparency and accountability in the formulation of ACTA would make any Tin Pot dictator green with envy... especially as it has democratic "legitimacy" served sans transparency... ] http://www.euractiv.com/health/acta-access-medicines-flawed-process-rationale-agreement-analysis-511408 Euractiv Published 08 March 2012 - Updated 09 March 2012 The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) has been characterised by a flawed process of negotiations based on a flawed rationale, which has resulted in a flawed agreement, argue Sophie Bloemen and Tessel Mellema from Health Action International Europe. One of the concerns now is that -- designed to be a global norm-setting instrument - ACTA could deter generic competition of medicines around the world. /Sophie Bloemen is advisor and Tessel Mellema is project officer to Health Action International Europe. Both work on HAI's trade, innovation and access to medicines campaigns. The following is a summary of a policy brief that can be found here ./ *ACTA's flawed process: a problem because ACTA strengthens substantive rights* Contrary to the claims of its proponents, ACTA not only enforces existing Intellectual Property Rights (IPRs), it strengthens the substantive rights of IP rights holders and goes well beyond the European Union (EU) acquis and the TRIPS Agreement. This expansion of rights makes ACTA's lack of transparency and accountability even more urgent: ACTA negotiations have not only bypassed existing multilateral institutions, like the WTO and WIPO, but also the European Parliament, and the voice of broader public interest groups. Further, the establishment of the 'ACTA Committee' - designed to function as a new plurilateral institution and to operate behind closed doors - gives rise to serious concerns for the future accountability and transparency of global IPR enforcement norm-setting. *ACTA's flawed rationale: confusion between counterfeit and generic medicines* The rationale behind ACTA, adopting the label 'anti-counterfeiting' and linking it to public health, is frankly misleading. ACTA not only deals with counterfeits and pirated products, but targets many other kinds of IPR infringements. This contributes to a damaging confusion between crucial legitimate generics and counterfeit medicines. Counterfeit medicines are defined by the World Health Organisation (WHO) as 'medicines that are illegally and deceptively mislabeled with respect to identity and/or source'. TRIPS limits its definition of what constitutes counterfeit to clear cases of such fraud: the use of a sign that is identical to the brand owner's trademark. It is only this specific type of IPR infringement that can be directly linked to trade in dangerous counterfeits, patent infringement and civil trademark infringement have in principle nothing to do with this. By conflating specific IPR enforcement measures to combat counterfeits with other types of IPR enforcement, the risk of right-holders using these measures to target legitimate generics is increased. This risk should not be taken lightly: the lesson learned from the DG Competition Pharmaceutical Sector inquiry in 2009 is that IPR enforcement provisions have been abused to delay generic competition and hamper innovation. This has cost European health budgets and consumers billions of extra euros. The increase in global IPR enforcement proposed by ACTA does not therefore serve public health or EU consumers by definition. *Flawed outcome: ACTA's implications for access to medicines by chilling generic competition.* Although the exact impact of ACTA measures will depend on how signatory States use the limited space awarded for implementation, it is certain to have a chilling effect on generic trade. This happens especially when the threat or risk of sanctions or litigation becomes too high for generic companies or producers of active ingredients to engage in the production or trade of legitimate generics. ACTA offers IP right-holders several such far-reaching enforcement rights. As mentioned, the scope of enforcement measures goes way beyond counterfeiting -- which is the willful use of an identical trademark. For example, in ACTA's section on general civil IPR enforcement measures, patents are still in by default. Moreover, civil trademark infringements are included as a ground both for civil IPR enforcement measures and to detain generics at the border - whether destined for export, import or just passing in transit. The lesson learned from Dutch & German seizure cases (2009) is that customs authorities' capacity to stop generics should be limited to cases of alleged counterfeiting. A broader scope strengthens IP right-holders' substantive rights and increases the risk and threat of right-holders abusing their right to request the detainment of goods at the border to hamper trade in generics. Another problem is that ACTA's broad third party liability puts a large group of third parties at risk of criminal and civil enforcement measures: this group may even include suppliers of active ingredients for generics or NGOs procuring legitimate generics for treatment. This could act as a significant deterrent to anyone involved in the provision of affordable generic medicines. Both the broad scope of IP rights, and broad third party liability, makes ACTA's bias in favour of IP right-holders of great concern. Especially since this bias is mirrored by an absence of sufficient abuse-deterrence mechanisms. Two biased enforcement provisions stand out in their potential chilling effect on generic competition: Firstly, ACTA puts parties involved in generic trade at risk of very high damages. This risk may work as a disincentive for competitors to explore the inherently grey area of IP infringement. Secondly, ACTA provides the right-holder with the strong weapon of provisional measures - allowing them to issue a prompt injunction or request seizure of generics, without the other party being heard and without a full judicial review by the court - while providing hardly any procedural guarantees for the defendant. *Future implementation: special concern for impact developing countries* Considering ACTA's new IPR enforcement standard is intended to become the global norm, concerns become all the more immediate. It is likely that developing countries will not use the available room for implementation to adapt standards to local needs, as there will be pressure not to do so from ACTA's main drivers. The risk of chilling generic competition is even greater in the absence of proper competition laws to punish abuse and the resulting higher prices will have an unacceptable impact on the affordability of medicines. Finally, the costs of implementation of this new body of law will present a burden for the limited public budgets of developing countries. Increasing IP right-holders' rights requires a transparent and participatory approach with a clear view on the interests that the EU wishes to protect by such expansion and the impact on society. Instead, ACTA uses a blurred rationale and an undemocratic and opaque process to establish a global new standard of IPR enforcement, which is already reason for serious concern. In addition ACTA offers IP right-holders several far-reaching enforcement rights that could have a chilling effect on generic competition, crucial for ensuring access to affordable medicines around the world. The conclusion can only be that ACTA is unacceptable and the EU should not ratify it." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Mon Mar 12 16:27:54 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:27:54 -0400 Subject: [governance] Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative at ICANN In-Reply-To: <26561296.421331580979843.JavaMail.root@email.comnet.org.mt> References: <26561296.421331580979843.JavaMail.root@email.comnet.org.mt> Message-ID: <06C1C873-7BCA-47E1-9CD0-F658BBA34D3C@privaterra.org> Lara, I'm familiar with the initiative and look forward to reading the notes of those who attended. I'd be curious to know if there's any particular reason why remote participation wasn't possible for the session in question. Robert On 2012-03-12, at 3:36 PM, Lara Pace wrote: > Dear All, > > For those of you out in San Jose, the Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative is convening a workshop to generate awareness on the Initiative and its current status: moving from concept to implementation. > > Details of this can be found through the following link: http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29901 > > Session will start in one hour and is being chaired by Ms Alice Munyua. > > Best, > > Lara > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lara.pace at comnet.org.mt Mon Mar 12 16:27:41 2012 From: lara.pace at comnet.org.mt (Lara Pace) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:27:41 +0100 Subject: [governance] Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative at ICANN Message-ID: <17153316.601331584061403.JavaMail.root@email.comnet.org.mt> Robert Many thanks, I am going to try and connect with a person in the room via Skype. Once I have details of this I will share with the list and directly to you via Skype. The CCI hopes to organise a similar session for the upcoming Meeting in Prague and I hope remote participation will be included. We will have more time in advance to announce the Session properly and make the necessary arrangements. Should we not manage to connect I will share Meeting notes from one of the panelists in the room. best, Lara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Guerra" Sent: Mon, 3/12/2012 9:27pm To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative at ICANN Lara, I'm familiar with the initiative and look forward to reading the notes of those who attended. I'd be curious to know if there's any particular reason why remote participation wasn't possible for the session in question. Robert On 2012-03-12, at 3:36 PM, Lara Pace wrote:Dear All, For those of you out in San Jose, the Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative is convening a workshop to generate awareness on the Initiative and its current status: moving from concept to implementation. Details of this can be found through the following link: http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29901 Session will start in one hour and is being chaired by Ms Alice Munyua. Best, Lara ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 16:52:31 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:52:31 +1200 Subject: [governance] Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative at ICANN In-Reply-To: <06C1C873-7BCA-47E1-9CD0-F658BBA34D3C@privaterra.org> References: <26561296.421331580979843.JavaMail.root@email.comnet.org.mt> <06C1C873-7BCA-47E1-9CD0-F658BBA34D3C@privaterra.org> Message-ID: We are already eagerly waiting in the room and there are 10 more minutes to go before the Speakers come in. Thank you Lara for this. Sala On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Lara, > > I'm familiar with the initiative and look forward to reading the notes of > those who attended. > > I'd be curious to know if there's any particular reason why remote > participation wasn't possible for the session in question. > > Robert > > On 2012-03-12, at 3:36 PM, Lara Pace wrote: > > Dear All, > > For those of you out in San Jose, the Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative > is convening a workshop to generate awareness on the Initiative and its > current status: moving from concept to implementation. > > Details of this can be found through the following link: > http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29901 > > Session will start in one hour and is being chaired by Ms Alice Munyua. > > Best, > > Lara > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > We are already eagerly waiting in the room and there are 10 more minutes > to go before the Speakers come in. Thank you Lara for this. > > Sala > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > >> Lara, >> >> I'm familiar with the initiative and look forward to reading the notes of >> those who attended. >> >> I'd be curious to know if there's any particular reason why remote >> participation wasn't possible for the session in question. >> >> Robert >> >> On 2012-03-12, at 3:36 PM, Lara Pace wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> For those of you out in San Jose, the Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative >> is convening a workshop to generate awareness on the Initiative and its >> current status: moving from concept to implementation. >> >> Details of this can be found through the following link: >> http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29901 >> >> Session will start in one hour and is being chaired by Ms Alice Munyua. >> >> Best, >> >> Lara >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lara Pace" Sent: Mon, 3/12/2012 9:27pm To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: RE: [governance] Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative at ICANN Robert Many thanks, I am going to try and connect with a person in the room via Skype. Once I have details of this I will share with the list and directly to you via Skype. The CCI hopes to organise a similar session for the upcoming Meeting in Prague and I hope remote participation will be included. We will have more time in advance to announce the Session properly and make the necessary arrangements. Should we not manage to connect I will share Meeting notes from one of the panelists in the room. best, Lara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Guerra" Sent: Mon, 3/12/2012 9:27pm To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative at ICANN Lara, I'm familiar with the initiative and look forward to reading the notes of those who attended. I'd be curious to know if there's any particular reason why remote participation wasn't possible for the session in question. Robert On 2012-03-12, at 3:36 PM, Lara Pace wrote:Dear All, For those of you out in San Jose, the Commonwealth Cybercrime Initiative is convening a workshop to generate awareness on the Initiative and its current status: moving from concept to implementation. Details of this can be found through the following link: http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29901 Session will start in one hour and is being chaired by Ms Alice Munyua. 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In-Reply-To: <20120312185416.4DF9F787D@quill.bollow.ch> References: <1331574746.5054.140661048185949@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20120312185416.4DF9F787D@quill.bollow.ch> Message-ID: I expect workshop proposals will be reviewed during the next open consultation and MAG meeting, May 15-17. They give shape to the meeting agenda, some will be feeder workshops etc. Can expect 100+. So no, there isn't much time. At this first stage workshop organizers need to include names they plan to invite, not a final list. Perhaps MAG members could find out how much detail's needed. Best, Adam On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > Thanks, Adam, for sharing this. > > The deadline strikes me as rather tight, to go from the initial information > on what they're looking for to submitting a proposal complete with a list of > panelist names and background papers, in about a month or less. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > Adam Peake wrote: >> ----- Original message ----- >> From: "Chengetai Masango" >> To: "igf Forum" >> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:22:43 -0600 >> Subject: [igf_members] 2012 Call for Workshop Proposals. >> Dear All, >> >> The 2012 call for workshop proposals will go up on the IGF website >> tomorrow afternoon CET (Monday). >> >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 >> >> The deadline for submission has been set for 12 April 2012. >> >> I would be grateful if you could spread the word to your respective >> stakeholder groups. >> >> Best regards >> >> Chengetai > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 18:39:49 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:39:49 +1200 Subject: [governance] ICANN 43 [Internet Governance Session] Message-ID: Session has just started Chengetai is speaking now. -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > Session has just started Chengetai is speaking now. > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Mon Mar 12 19:08:48 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:08:48 +0900 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [kictanet] Fwd: IGF 2012 Call for Workshop Proposals. In-Reply-To: References: <1331574746.5054.140661048185949@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20120312185416.4DF9F787D@quill.bollow.ch> Message-ID: List of questions workshops are invited to consider: 2012 Main sub theme questions The following are the main session questions proposed by the MAG: Emerging Issues Questions Question 1: What are the implications of the use of new technical and political instruments on the free flow of information, access to information, and with respect for human rights? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:Access to content, new models, common challenges for old and new media (Low cost mobile access to the Internet (Technical measures and use of intermediaries as instruments of law enforcement and intermediary safe harbors Question 2: What are acceptable and proportionate measures that offer Intellectual Property protection, yet allow for and respect individual users  freedom to express themselves, to access and share content/culture, and to innovate and create? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: ( (Measures to protect intellectual property in balance with incentives for creativity and innovation (Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television (Legislative issues (Creativity and human rights (Innovation on the Internet (The networked individual and expanded power of freedom Question 3: In what ways are new opportunities and challenges being created as the new Internet services and traditional media (such a broadcast TV and radio) are accessed through the same screen ? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: ( (Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television (User generated content: reliability and responsibility (Low cost mobile access to the internet Question 4: To what extent do Internet based services offer new and radically different opportunities to help families, social groups, communities and broader structures in society organize and re-organize themselves when challenged by natural disaster or strife? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of; ( (Internet and traditional media for disaster recovery and management (Internet Governance for Disaster Reduction and Response  Best practice and possible collaboration framework Managing Critical Internet Resources Questions Question 1: What is the role and importance of IXPs in localizing content, including to ensure easier connectivity in cases of disasters? Question 2: How can IG policy choices ensure sustainability during natural disasters and recovery/relief efforts? Question 3: What IG choices, best practices and technical and policy challenges impact the migration of resources starting to run over IP, migration of resources? Question 4: What policy dialogues in international forums could impact these migrations? For example, what, if any, implications are there from the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) and its review of the International Telecommunications Regulations? What changes in this binding set of Treaty-level regulations could impact the future development of the Internet? Question 5: What new developments pose specific new policy and technical challenges? ( (Introduction of new gTLDs, (IPv4 and IPv6: Emerging IPv4 markets, and related governance issues relevant to market ideas/realties, (Emergence of smart grids  what are best practices to enable an interconnected world? Question 6: With respect to multistakeholder accountability mechanisms, such as the AOC at ICANN, what are the results of such efforts, and what are the consequences for other CIR organizations? ( (Questions for Feeder Workshops: ( (What are the effects of jurisdiction and territoriality on the ongoing discussions about critical internet resource coordination? (What is the relationship of the multi-stakeholder accountability mechanisms and the overall goal of enhanced cooperation? Security, Openness and Privacy Questions Question 1: What impact can security and governance issues have on the Internet and human rights? Question 2: Freedom of expression and free flow of information: how do legal framework, regulations, and principles impact this? ( (What risks can Internet fragmentation pose to security, privacy and openness? (What impact does cloud computing have on concerns over cybersecurity and cybercrime? Question 3: What risks do law enforcement, information suppression and surveillance have on security, privacy and openness and how can public and private sector cooperate to conform and observe human rights? Question 4: What measures can be taken to ensure freedom of expression, access to knowledge and privacy, including for children? What are challenges to protect freedom of expression online and what measures can be taken to better empower citizen s access to information and participation in digital age? ( Net Etiquette and the roles and responsibilities of users as they relate to openness, privacy security? Question 5: What policies and practices that can assist in making the Internet an effective multistakeholder model to discuss national & regional issues and what best practices developing countries can benefit from. Access and Diversity Questions Question 1: What are the policy challenges around free flow of information, freedom of expression and human rights and the Internet as they relate to access? Question 2: What are the legal policy and regulatory choices including enabling environments that foster infrastructure investment, particularly for developing countries? Question 3: How is the increased demand for more bandwidth, lower costs of Internet access and revenue shifts affecting investment in broadband infrastructure and access networks? Question 4: What challenges do filtering, blocking and the diversity of national legal frameworks more generally pose to ensuring access and diversity? Question 5: Innovation and opportunities in spectrum technology and allocation---implications for access including mobile? Question 6: How can women be empowered in all dimensions of their life through access to the Internet and information? Question 7: How do language barriers impact access to the Internet? Question 8: What opportunities and challenges are presented by multilingualism? Question 9: Mobile access: what it takes to create opportunities for entrepreneurs, youth and developing country stakeholders? Internet Governance for Development Questions Questions will be posted shortly. Taking Stock and the Way Forward Questions will be posted shortly. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ias_pk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 20:19:51 2012 From: ias_pk at yahoo.com (Imran Ahmed Shah) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA renewal Message-ID: <1331597991.10504.yint-ygo-j2me@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Dear All, (who are there at 43rd Meeting), Any update on the new gTLD program (after the announcement of RFP rejectio? Thqanks Imrean -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jfcallo at ciencitec.com Mon Mar 12 22:05:04 2012 From: jfcallo at ciencitec.com (jfcallo at ciencitec.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:05:04 -0400 Subject: [governance] Interesante In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120312220504.66934gm8mhwq1ets@www.ciencitec.com> Antonio: Gracias un tal Iriarte hizo una pesima traduccion. Atentamente Antonio Medina Gómez escribió: > + 1 congratulations > Antonio > > 2012/3/12 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < > salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> > >> Dear All, >> >> It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura >> Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a country >> Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she >> transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a nation and >> is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic internet. >> >> I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes >> available. >> >> Warm Regards from Costa Rica, >> >> -- >> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >> Cell: +679 998 2851 >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nhklein at gmx.net Mon Mar 12 22:32:24 2012 From: nhklein at gmx.net (nhklein) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:32:24 +0700 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla en la inauguracion de #icann43 In-Reply-To: References: <97033F6F-17DC-40B7-812E-FBC021743A1B@alfa-redi.org> Message-ID: <4F5EB1B8.7030008@gmx.net> Thanks, Erick: "Son ustedes la más revolucionaria de las comunidades globales de nuestro tiempo, al defender los valores de la libertad y del acceso democrático al ciberespacio. Uno de sus lemas en la construcción de la internet es de “abajo hacia arriba”. "Internet es la gran ocasión que nos brinda la historia para no repetir los errores del pasado que condujeron al diseño de instituciones para la gobernanza internacional, burocratizadas, verticales y cerradas. "Internet no debe concebirse como una amenaza, sino como una esperanza. Es la esperanza de un mundo integrado, sin fronteras que nos separen; de un mundo compartido, sin dueños que nos controlen; de un mundo de oportunidades ilimitadas e iguales para todos. Es la utopía con la que por mucho tiempo soñamos: la utopía de un mundo en donde todos y cada uno de nosotros somos protagonistas de un destino que está en nuestras manos construir." Very encouraging. Norbert On 03/13/2012 01:17 AM, Erick Iriarte Ahon wrote: > FYI > > Inicio del mensaje reenviado: > >> *De: *Erick Iriarte Ahon > > >> *Fecha: *12 de marzo de 2012 13:16:07 GMT-05:00 >> *Para: *"ag at lactld.org General de LACTLD" >> >, "Foro de Derecho >> Informático." > > >> *Cc: *LatinoamerICANN LatinoamerICANN > > >> *Asunto: **Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla en la inauguracion de >> #icann43* >> >> Discurso de Presidenta Chinchilla (@Laura_Ch) en la inauguracion de >> #icann43 - bit.ly/xDUtFn <- de lectura obligatoria #icann #cctld >> >> San José, 12 de Marzo del 2012 >> >> Amigas y amigos: >> >> A los que hoy se encuentran aquí con nosotros y a quienes nos siguen >> a través del ciberespacio, sean ustedes cordialmente bienvenidos al >> encuentro ICANN 43, que en esta ocasión se realiza en este >> excepcional país que es Costa Rica. >> >> Esta tierra de paz, libertad y exhuberante naturaleza, enclavada en >> la cintura de América, agradece el honor de haber sido escogida para >> tan importante encuentro. Hace rato lo esperábamos, porque hay mucho >> de simbólico entre lo que ICANN representa y promueve y los valores >> que abriga el alma de mi pueblo. >> >> Son ustedes una de las comunidades que mejor comprende la importancia >> del conocimiento para el progreso humano. Es gracias a ese >> conocimiento siempre en evolución, que hemos logrado ser testigos de >> una de las mayores revoluciones de la humanidad: la revolución >> digital. En mi país, entendimos de manera muy temprana, el valor del >> conocimiento y desde entonces lo hemos cultivado. Decretamos la >> educación gratuita y universal desde 1869, antes que cualquier otro >> país de América Latina, antes que Inglaterra o que los Estados Unidos >> de América. Gracias a esa inversión en capital humano, somos hoy el >> mayor exportador de tecnología de la región y de los más aventajados >> en materia de innovación. >> >> Son ustedes la más revolucionaria de las comunidades globales de >> nuestro tiempo, al defender los valores de la libertad y del acceso >> democrático al ciberespacio. Uno de sus lemas en la construcción de >> la internet es de “abajo hacia arriba”. Mi país, también se forjó, >> de abajo hacia arriba. Nacimos como una comunidad de pequeños >> agricultores y pequeños propietarios que alimentaron con éxito una >> democracia política, social y económica. En 1948 decidimos consolidar >> lo mejor de nuestros valores cívicos, y nos convertirnos en la >> primera nación del mundo sin fuerzas armadas. A diferencia de otras >> naciones de nuestro entorno, optamos por resolver nuestras disputas >> por la vía de las urnas y no de las armas, decidimos invertir en >> libros, escuelas y maestros y no en armas, cuarteles y soldados. >> Esta trayectoria ha hecho que seamos la democracia más estable y >> antigua de América Latina. >> >> Son ustedes, quienes al promover la virtualidad en los encuentros >> internacionales, contribuyen a mitigar la huella de carbono que >> dejamos los seres humanos cada vez que nos desplazamos entre nuestras >> respectivas naciones. Costa Rica como país anfitrión de ICANN, >> siente también el merecido reconocimiento a una profunda vocación de >> amor a la naturaleza. En tan sólo 0.03% del territorio mundial, >> albergamos cerca del 5% de la biodiversidad del mundo. Hace más de >> cuarenta años decidimos preservar este increíble patrimonio natural, >> dedicando cerca del 30% del territorio a regímenes especiales de >> protección ambiental. Como resultado de estos esfuerzos, hoy somos el >> quinto país en el mundo que más protege el medio ambiente y aspiramos >> a convertirnos en uno de los primeros países carbono neutral del planeta. >> >> Son ustedes también, la comunidad tecnológica más exigente del mundo. >> Sabíamos que la designación de Costa Rica como sede latinoamericana >> de esta reunión obedecía a un profundo escrutinio de nuestras >> capacidades tecnológicas y digitales. Su confianza nos comprometió a >> garantizarles el mejor acceso y facilidad de tráfico de información >> con el resto del planeta. Desde esta sede donde nos encontramos, >> están operando dos conexiones de 1 Gigabit por segundo, enlazadas a >> anillos interoceánicos que las llevan al mundo entero, tanto por el >> Océano Pacífico, como por el mar Caribe. >> >> Costa Rica es la nación más conectada de esta región. Tenemos cinco >> accesos a las redes internacionales -Cable Maya, Cable Arcos, Cable >> Globalcrossing, Cable Panamericano y acceso Satelital-. Promovemos >> activamente las soluciones basadas en la nube y para ello estamos >> concluyendo la construcción del segundo Data Center certificado Tier >> 4 por el Uptime Institute. De hecho aspiramos a convertirnos en el >> Network Access Point (NAP) o puerta de entrada de la economía >> digital de Centro América y el Caribe. >> >> >> >> Sin embargo, para nosotros los costarricenses, no basta el estar bien >> conectados con el mundo, también queremos conectarnos de la mejor >> manera posible entre nosotros mismos. Por ello, hace un año le lancé >> un reto a mi país: que junto con el pacto social con la paz y el >> pacto social por la naturaleza que ya habíamos adoptado, >> suscribiéramos también un pacto social digital. >> >> Es éste un acuerdo que nos permitirá a las y los costarricenses, dar >> un salto cualitativo en nuestro desarrollo, transitando de una >> economía basada en factores de producción y eficiencia, hacia una >> economía basada en la innovación. Un acuerdo que nos permitirá en >> pocos años desarrollar una infraestructura de banda ancha, muy ancha, >> simétrica y sobre todo neutral y superar la barrera de 15% de >> penetración de nuestra región, para convertirnos en uno de los países >> más conectados de la América Latina. Un acuerdo que gracias al >> enfoque solidario que estamos promoviendo, hará posible el cierre de >> las brechas digitales, al garantizar acceso gratuito a banda ancha y >> a tecnologías digitales, a los sectores más rezagados de nuestra >> población y al 100% de los centros educativos del país. >> >> Es justo reconocer que en este proceso, no estamos partiendo de cero. >> Gracias a la fuerte apuesta que hizo nuestro país en el área de la >> informática educativa hace más de dos décadas, Costa Rica muestra >> grandes avances en materia de tecnologías digitales. El esfuerzo >> hasta ahora realizado por nuestro país ha sido reconocido por el Foro >> Económico Mundial al destacar que Costa Rica está entre las diez >> naciones del mundo cuya población se encuentra mejor preparada para >> aprovechar las ventajas de la tecnología digital. >> >> Mi administración, además, está usando internet para transformar la >> manera como interactúa el Gobierno con las empresas y la ciudadanía, >> simplificando trámites y haciendo más eficiente la prestación de >> servicios y masificando el uso de la firma digital. Costa Rica está >> de lleno integrada al movimiento internacional que construye >> Gobiernos Digitales para su ciudadanía, buscando mejorar su calidad >> de vida, hacer más competitivo y eficiente al Estado, aumentar la >> productividad de nuestras empresas y atraer, de una forma más >> dinámica, la inversión extranjera. >> >> Estimadas amigas y amigos: >> >> ICANN 43 acontece en un momento especial de la historia de Internet. >> Estamos llegando a un punto de inflexión no sólo en el terreno de >> número de direcciones, sino también de la gobernanza de la RED. >> >> Desde el punto de vista tecnológico, estamos en proceso de iniciar la >> transición a la versión 6 del Protocolo de Internet. Esto resolverá >> el temprano agotamiento de las direcciones IP. Además de que IP >> versión 6, tiene funcionalidades nativas de seguridad y de movilidad >> que es la principal transformación que el mundo digital está >> experimentando. Finalmente nos va a facilitar la migración de >> tecnologías analógicas y digitales a IP, como televisión por internet >> que nuestro país ha iniciado y que culminará en el año 2017. A las >> puertas está también la posibilidad de ampliación del Sistema de >> Nombres de Dominio, permitiendo una mayor individuación. Cuentan >> ustedes con todo el apoyo de nuestro país para el desarrollo e >> implementación de estos cambios que impactarán positivamente el >> desarrollo del mundo digital. >> >> Pero los temas de mayor relevancia que nos convocan son de orden >> político, ético y normativo. Nos encontramos en la transición hacia >> la WEB 2.0 que significa la evolución a una nueva generación de >> aplicaciones para Internet que facilitan compartir información, >> interoperabilidad, diseño centrado en la experiencia del usuario y >> colaboración. Esta evolución promete transformar de manera todavía >> más radical la forma en la que nos comunicamos, producimos, >> comerciamos y educamos. El potencial de transformación es tan grande, >> que como contrapartida ha generado una serie de intentos de >> regulación de la red. Entre ellos se encuentran la Stop Online Piracy >> Act (SOPA) que busca la protección de la Propiedad Intelectual >> mediante restricciones en el direccionamiento, y la Protect >> Intellectual Property Act (PIPA) que busca extender una especie de >> jurisdicción nacional a todo el ciberespacio. Ambas nos preocupan y >> respaldamos más bien alternativas como Online Protection and >> Enforcement of Digital Trade Act (OPEN) que no busca ejercer >> funciones restrictivas y policiales en el ciberespacio, sino que se >> enfoca en rastrear y limitar pagos a websites ilegítimos, sin limitar >> en forma general el potencial de transformación social que ofrece el >> WEB 2.0. >> >> En el área de la seguridad, la prioridad deber ser la protección de >> los niños y las niñas. Tengo el honor de ser la madrina del Programa >> promovido por la Unión Internacional de las Telecomunicaciones >> conocido como “Child Online Protection”, gracias al cual se >> identifican los riesgos del ciberespacio para la poblacion infantil >> del planeta, se crea conciencia sobre los mismos, se intercambian >> experiencias y se diseñan herramientas efectivas de protección. >> >> Las legítimas preocupaciones por la privacidad, la seguridad y la >> protección de la propiedad intelectual, no deben convertirse en >> excusas para justificar tendencias que busquen ejercer funciones >> altamente restrictivas en el ciberespacio. Abogamos por un modelo que >> garantice la privacidad y la seguridad dentro de esquemas de acceso >> universal. Abogamos por una gobernanza que refuerce la >> característica más marcada de la WEB, que ha comprendido que su >> crecimiento exponencial debe responder, al carácter necesariamente >> diversificado y múltiple de los viajeros del ciberespacio. Es decir, >> una vigilancia efectiva que no limite el mayor potencial de la >> internet que es el acceso democrático a la misma. Internet es de >> todos y todos debemos participar en el debate sobre las reglas que la >> deben regir. El diseño de su gobernanza debe basarse en un enfoque >> de “multistakeholder” en donde, con independencia de nuestro tamaño, >> poder financiero, político o corporativo, podamos concurrir en un >> proceso de construcción de confianza recíproca que permita fortalecer >> mecanismos de coordinación y de organización de carácter democrático. >> >> Internet es la gran ocasión que nos brinda la historia para no >> repetir los errores del pasado que condujeron al diseño de >> instituciones para la gobernanza internacional, burocratizadas, >> verticales y cerradas. >> >> Internet no debe concebirse como una amenaza, sino como una >> esperanza. Es la esperanza de un mundo integrado, sin fronteras que >> nos separen; de un mundo compartido, sin dueños que nos controlen; de >> un mundo de oportunidades ilimitadas e iguales para todos. Es la >> utopía con la que por mucho tiempo soñamos: la utopía de un mundo en >> donde todos y cada uno de nosotros somos protagonistas de un destino >> que está en nuestras manos construir. >> >> Muchas gracias! -- In April 2011, I started a new blog: ...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia http://www.thinking21.org/ continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia. Here are my latest postings: Myanmar’s Roadmap to Democracy (27.2.2012) http://www.thinking21.org/?p=800 The Freedom of Expression – China and Cambodia – and the Internet (4.3.2012) http://www.thinking21.org/?p=839 After the International Women’s Day 2012 (9.3.2012) http://www.thinking21.org/?p=862 If you want to receive these reports and comments regularly into your mailbox, you can, in the upper left corner of the website, "Enter your email address" into the box that says so, and then click on "Subscribe" - free of charge. Norbert Klein nhklein at gmx.net Phnom Penh / Cambodia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ias_pk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 00:41:38 2012 From: ias_pk at yahoo.com (Imran Ahmed Shah) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] Opening Speech by the Costa Rica President Laura Chinchilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1331613698.38017.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Please find here under a link where transcrip of the speech has been uploaded (English Version).   http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29527 Transcript: President Chinchilla's Speech http://costarica43.icann.org/meetings/sanjose2012/transcript-president-chinchilla-speech-12mar12-en.pdf      Thanks   Imran Ahmed Shah >________________________________ > From: Robert Guerra >To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >Sent: Monday, 12 March 2012, 22:13 >Subject: Re: [governance] Opening Speech by the Costa Rica President Laura Chinchilla > > >Sala, > > > > >I have been following the ICANN meeting remotely. > > >Indeed, great comments made by the Costa Rican president in support of Human Rights, Freedom & Democracy. I look forward to the transcript. > > >regards > > >Robert > > >-- >R. Guerra >Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom  >Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > >On 2012-03-12, at 12:02 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > >Dear All, >> >> >>It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a country Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a nation and is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic internet. >> >> >>I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes available. >> >> >>Warm Regards from Costa Rica, >> >> >>-- >> >>Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> >>Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>Cell: +679 998 2851 >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >>You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>To be removed from the list, visit: >>    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >>For all other list information and functions, see: >>    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>    http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >>Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: >    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From baudouin.schombe at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 03:43:31 2012 From: baudouin.schombe at gmail.com (Baudouin Schombe) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:43:31 +0100 Subject: [governance] Opening Speech by the Costa Rica President Laura Chinchilla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sala, thanks for this information. Important official reference. *Baudouin* 2012/3/12 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> > Dear All, > > It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura > Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a country > Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she > transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a nation and > is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic internet. > > I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes > available. > > Warm Regards from Costa Rica, > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL/ ACADEMIE DES TIC FACILITATEUR GAID/AFRIQUE Membre At-Large Member NCSG Member email:baudouin.schombe at gmail.com baudouin.schombe at ticafrica.net tél:+243998983491 skype:b.schombe wite web:http://webmail.ticafrica.net blog:http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Future applications in domains such as Healthcare/Health-Science, Energy, Social Networks and Logistics demand infrastructures that are more agile than those operated currently. Digital Ecosystems aim to capture the notion of such agile and adaptive infrastructures. Digital Ecosystem Technologies encompass the advent of the whole spectrum of Internet technologies, starting from the hyperlinked web towards pervasive internet applications, from Peer-to-Peer systems to Grid middleware, followed by Cloud Services, Agent technologies, Sensor Networks and Cyber- Physical systems, which has become a major theme for business process digitalization. Digital Ecosystems inherit concepts of open, loosely coupled, demand-driven, domain clustered, agent-based self-organized collaborative environments where species/agents form a temporary coalition (or longer term) for a specific purpose or goals. Within this environment everyone is proactive and responsive for their own benefit or profit. The essence of digital ecosystems is the adoption of ecological system concepts, and creating value by making connections through collective intelligence and promoting collaboration instead of unbridled competition and ICT-based catalyst effects in a number of domains, to produce networked enriched communities and solutions. Today's global challenges such as in Energy and Sustainability, Healthcare and an Aging Society, Public Safety and Security, or Democracy and Participation/Involvement confront us with the most Complex Environments. Traditional ICT-support has often increased complexity, thus making the challenges even more severe. The Digital Ecosystem perspective aims to address the twofold challenge of Complex Environment Engineering and Digital Ecosystem Technology mapping. The complexity of both the challenges and the technological solutions has to be acknowledged. IEEE DEST-CEE is jointly conducted with IFIP 2.6 - 2.12 SIMPDA (International Symposium on Data Driven Process Discovery and Analysis, http://sesar.dti.unimi.it/SIMPDA2012). This acknowledges the key role of business process data modeling, representation and privacy-aware analysis for Digital Ecosystems, and vice versa. Further, the Innovation Adoption Forum underpins the importance of public-private partnership as the key for delivering sustainable solutions for our Complex Living and Business Environment û and thus our Digital Ecosystem Habitat. Our Keynotes, Panels and Sessions will tackle the multifaceted challenges and solutions from various stakeholders’ perspectives. This call for papers and additional information about the conference can be found at http://sesar.dti.unimi.it/DEST2012/. For information regarding the conference you may contact: fulvio.frati at unimi.it. IMPORTANT DATES Submission of Full Papers EXTENDED: 2 April 2012 Notification of Acceptance: 19 April 2012 Submission of Camera Ready Papers: 21 May 2012 Conference: 18 - 20 June 2012 CONFERENCE GENERAL CHAIRS - Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Achim P. Karduck, Furtwangen University, Germany TECHNICAL PROGRAMME CHAIRS - Elizabeth Chang, DEBII, Curtin University, Perth, Australia - Mark Hedges, Centre for e-Research, Kings College, UK PUBLICITY CHAIR - Matthew Smith, Leibniz University Hannover, Germany REGIONAL AREA CHAIRS - Moataz A. Ahmed, KFUPM, Saudi Arabia - Paolo Ceravolo, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Ralph Deters, University of Saskatchewan, Canada - Christian Guetl, Graz University of Technology, Austria - Farookh Hussain, Curtin University, Perth, Australia - Jie Liu, Fudan University, Shanghai, China INNOVATION ADOPTION CHAIRS - Achim P. Karduck, Furtwangen University, Germany - O. Sinan Tumer, SAP Research, US JOURNAL SPECIAL ISSUES CHAIR - Farookh Hussain, Curtin University, Perth, Australia WEB & PUBLICATION CHAIR - Fulvio Frati, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy CHAIR OF ADVISORY BOARD - Tharam Dillon, Chair IEEE TC-II INTERN. ADVISORY BOARD - Michael Brodie, Verizon, USA - Armando Colombo, Schneider Electric, Germany - Leopoldo G Franquelo, President IEEE IES - Kouhei Ohnishi, Ex. President IEEE-IES - Wolfgang Prinz, Fraunhofer FIT, Germany - Csaba A. Szabo, Budapest University, Hungary - Sirin Teriknay, Ozyegin University, Turkey - O.Sinan Tumer, SAP Research, Germany - Bogdan Wilamowski, Editor-in-Chief for IEEE TIE - Xinghuo Yu, IEEE IES AdCOM PAPER SUBMISSION Papers are to be original works, up to 6 pages in length, and will be peer reviewed by at least 3 independent reviewers from the international Programme Committee. Papers submitted for this conference must be formatted to fit on A4 paper in a two-column format. The author should use a word processor or desktop publishing system to produce a "camera ready" paper on A4 paper. The exact formatting instructions can be found on the website. Before submitting your paper submission, please ensure that it has been converted to a PDF using IEEE’s requirements. The papers submission system for IEEE DEST-CEE 2012 can be found at https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=ieeedestcee2012. CONFERENCE VENUE All conference activities will take place in the municipal casino of Campione d'Italia. From Milan Campione can be reached by car following the A9 motorway MILANOCHIASSO and then the A2 motorway CHIASSO- LUGANO, exit at Bissone Melide. A bus leaves from Garibaldi square (the square before the Garibaldi railway station) Dep. time from Milano 15.00/20:30- Dep. from Campione 19:00/00:30/3.00. From Malpensa Airport Campione can be reached by car or shuttle in approximately 50 minutes. >From Lugano Campione can be reached by boat, bus and car and although you have to cross the Swiss-Italian border line to reach it there are no formal border controls. Campione is approximately 20 minutes from Lugano by road, and 15 minutes by boat across the lake. A ferry service runs regularly from Lugano to Campione throughout the day. Bus timetable are available on the SBB web site. More info on: www.campioneitalia.com CONFERENCE TRACKS * Area I: Foundations and Technologies Area I deals with the basic ICT foundations of digital ecosystems, including large-scale, virtualized infrastructures, hosting ecosystem services and processes. Ecosystems require a novel approach to ICT technology development, closely related to the engineering of complex systems. Area I includes two one-day tracks that feature contributions on how the technological support for digital ecosystems is emerging. Track A: Foundations of Digital Ecosystems and Complex Environment Engineering Track co-Chairs: - Pierpaolo Andriani, Euromed Management School, France - Pierfranco Ferronato, Soluta.net, Italy - Gabriele Gianini, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Track A addresses the foundations of Digital Ecosystems in the context of Complex Environments Engineering. A digital ecosystem is defined as an open, loosely coupled, demand-driven, domain clustered, agent -based self organized environment where species/agents form short and long-term coalitions for specific purposes or goals, and everyone is proactive and responsive for its own benefit or profit. Interactions among peers in Digital Ecosystems may involve, besides unbridled competition, new modalities of pre-competitive and collaborative partnerships . Digital ecosystems are characterized by complexity – demanding radically new solutions. This track focuses on the theoretical foundations, that can be drawn upon form various disciplines. The focus of Track A is on, but is not limited to: - Models for Digital Ecosystems and Complex Environments - Economic and Value Models for Digital Ecosystems - Techniques for Coordination, Availability and Resource Allocation - Ontologies for service and data semantics Track B: Technology Infrastructure for Digital Ecosystems Track co-Chairs: - Lionel Brunie, INSA-Lyon, France - Harald Kosch, University of Passau, Germany The ICT infrastructure underlying digital ecosystem must ensure the basis for digital ecosystems' economic operation. Track B will include contributions on how the ICT infrastructure can enable Digital Ecosystems by providing the required connectivity, mobility, availability, and security solutions. Typically, members of an ecosystem employ technological agents to procure products and access services on their behalf in order to achieve collective and individual goals. The ICT infrastructure needs to provide solution ensuring that the ecosystem's resources are available as and when they are legitimately needed, protecting confidential information from loss and avoiding corruption of information. The focus of Track B is on, but not limited to: - Knowledge representation and management in Digital Ecosystems - Secure Information Exchange in Digital Ecosystems - Models and Technologies for Human-Space Computing - Processes and Services in Cyber-Physical Systems - Collaborative Systems * Area II: Sustainable Domain Solutions Area II presents contributions in various application domains, organized in half-day tracks. Just as the development of Smart Grids required the convergence of energy and information system infrastructures, radically new approaches to the design, convergence, and adoption of systems are required for future solutions in a variety of domains. Radically increasing the involvement of stakeholders with complex environments is one potential route for providing solutions in these domains, for example in energy systems or healthcare. In the longer term, approaches for enabling collaborative ecosystems may lead to high-impact solutions for today´s most pressing challenges. The “Sustainable Domain Solutions” tracks will identify domain requirements, research challenges and systems solutions with respect to the concept of Digital Ecosystems and Complex Environment Engineering, as outlined in the background and objectives of IEEE DEST 2012: Digital Ecosystems inherit concepts of open, loosely coupled, demand-driven, domain clustered, agent-based, self-organized, collaborative environments, where species/ agents form a temporary (or longer-term) coalition for a specific purpose or goal. Within this context, the tracks will focus on, but not be limited to, the following issues: - Scalability and availability, with respect to large infrastructure platforms - Evolvability, with respect to the introduction and life-cycle of service platforms - Usability, with respect to human factors and user benefits Track C: Cyber-Physical Energy Systems Track co-Chairs: - Neil Brown, Institute of Energy and Sustainable Development (IESD), De Montfort University, UK - Rupert Gammon, Institute of Energy and Sustainable Development (IESD) , De Montfort University, UK - Peter Palensky, Austrian Institute of Technology, Vienna, Austria - Martin Anda, Environmental Technology Center , Murdoch University, Australia Cyber-Physical Energy Systems address the merging of IT and energy infrastructures, with the aim of achieving more energy-efficient and sustainable lifestyles. The coordination of the various stakeholders involved in the future energy market raises many challenges, for example the data-intensive and complex event processing required. An example is provided by research driven by the need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, increase the use of new and renewable energy technologies, and provide a high quality, comfortable, safe and efficient built environment. Such applied research aims to exploit the potential of information technology to boost energy efficiency and minimize our environmental footprint, while preserving or improving the quality of life for every individual in every nation. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for cyber-physical energy systems, and indicate/demonstrate potential solutions. Track D: Healthcare and Sustainable Living Track co-Chairs: - Rémi Bastide, ISIS-University Centre for Health Informatics, Carmaux, France - Matthew Smith, Leibniz University Hannover, Germany eHealth, Telemedicine, and Bio-System Research Systems all describe approaches to improving the capacity of healthcare systems through fundamental and applied research, technology, and services. Researchers and companies are, for example, exploring the use of sensor devices, human-system interfaces, and medical record systems in order to provide radically new solutions for helping patients. These advances require structural changes as well as technological development. Societies are facing an increase in chronic degenerative diseases that require monitoring and long-term patient management, the growing desire of patients to be treated in a family environment in order to protect their social ties, and, finally, a need to reduce costs. These factors necessitate a new strategic orientation in services offered by healthcare systems, in particular the transfer of a large portion of care activities from the hospital to the patient’s residence. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for healthcare and sustainable living, and indicate/demonstrate potential solutions. Track E: Digital Humanities Track co-Chairs: - Tobias Blanke, King’s College London, UK - Stuart Dunn, King’s College London, UK The digital humanities form a bridge between the traditional practices of scholarship and the opportunities afforded by advances in technology, enabling researchers to reconsider old problems in new ways, and providing the methods, tools and frameworks to support them in developing new modes of enquiry. On the one hand, the humanities are faced with ever greater volumes of complex data and digital resources, for example from the increasing mass digitisation of historical records. On the other hand, research in the humanities is moving away from the model of individual scholars to one in which international and inter-disciplinary teams of researchers collaborate actively within a diverse ecosystem of digital resources, tools, and services, not forgetting of course the users themselves – the rapid evolution of Web technologies continues to privilege the human as a key agent, both as provider and consumer of content, and this in turn is investing humanities scholarship with an increasing awareness of vast new audiences and potential participants. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for digital humanities, and indicate/demonstrate potential solutions. Track F: Collaborative Platforms for Sustainable Logistics and Transportation Track co-Chairs: - Frederick Benaben, Ecole de Mines d'Albi-Carmaux, France - Amadou Sienou, Abamix Research, Germany - Hervé Pingaud, University JF Champollion, France Across application domains, organizations and enterprises (such as Small-Medium Enterprises) gain their strengths from flexible market orientation, agile value chains and cluster -based innovation capacity. The changing global (business) environment challenges all organizations to aim for agility and performance-driven management through process focused thinking. These challenges reach far beyond the business world, affecting for example the formation and coordination of emergency teams in case of environmental disasters. For the effective collaboration of all the partners in such scenarios, the agility aspect of the Digital Ecosystem paradigm demands explicit support for risk management and collaboration. Agility implies the continuous improvement and reengineering of the business processes involved. However, the outcome of such process management efforts is risky because of the lack of operational information about future processes, so risk management is a key component. Similarly, collaboration support is required to allow real-time information sharing and interaction of the parties involved, for example in case of deviation from the agreed-upon target process. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for collaboration in the domain of logistics, including risk-management scenarios (e.g. after the occurrence of an environmental disaster), and that indicate/ demonstrate potential solutions. Track G: Platforms for Social and Community Involvement/Engagement Track co-Chairs: - Francois Grey, Tsinghua University, China - Margaret Tan, Singapore Internet Research Center, Singapore The internet, together with other advances in ICT such as the increased take-up of smart mobile devices, is enabling a new era of community engagement. In science, the application of volunteer computing is providing examples of engagement in which members of the public can contribute to scientific advances of social importance. Examples include modelling climate change (ClimatePrediction.net), developing drugs for AIDS (FightAids at home), or simulating the spread of malaria (MalariaControl.net). The participatory ecosystem is becoming still wider with projects such as GalaxyZoo, in which volunteers contribute their “thinking” rather than their computers, and global initiatives to broaden take-up such as Africa at home and Asia at home. On the social side, we are seeing substantial evidence of the role that digital technologies, especially the “Social Web” such as blogs, Twitter, Facebook, and video sharing sites, can play in community activism. The Social Web is in some quarters becoming the mainstream method for connecting people, sharing information, and influencing developments, particularly in areas where traditional modes of communication operate less effectively. This is reflected in a number of recent geopolitical events that have been referred to as “Twitter Revolutions”, and these technologies have played an undeniable role in such events as the “Arab Spring” and humanitarian crises such as the 2010 Haiti earthquake. The use of these technologies has however led to debates concerning the extent to which such digital technologies genuinely promote more democratic community action, and the extent to which they can be exploited by the powerful to reinforce their positions. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long -term challenges for social involvement/engagement, and indicate/demonstrate potential solutions. Track H: Cyber-Physical Ecosystems in Robotics and Telematics Track Co-Chairs: - Michaela Huhn, Clausthal University of Technology, Germany - Jörg P. Müller, Clausthal University of Technology, Germany - Bernardo Wagner, Leibniz University Hannover, Germany Cyber-Physical Systems are a synergetic composition of computational control and physical actors. They aim to achieve an enhanced functionality that relies on both, the interaction with and coordination in between the physical and the virtual components. Cyber-Physical Ecosystems are built as agile networks of cooperating, independently developed subsystems. Cyber-Physical Ecosystems are emerging at the interface between robotics, sensor networks, systems of systems engineering, and multi-agent technologies. Research on theories, architectures, models, methods, and tools are required to form a uniform and integrated perspective to systems engineering for this class of complex systems. They need to be validated and verified in key applications such as micro grids, multi-robot systems, or autonomous traffic. The domain focus of this track will be accordingly on robotics and telematics, but is open to adjacent domains as well. We are looking for papers that address medium-scale/large-scale and medium-term/long-term challenges -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Tue Mar 13 09:12:14 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:12:14 -0300 Subject: [governance] Interesante In-Reply-To: <20120312220504.66934gm8mhwq1ets@www.ciencitec.com> References: <20120312220504.66934gm8mhwq1ets@www.ciencitec.com> Message-ID: <4F5F47AE.8040805@cafonso.ca> El discurso de la pres.Chinchilla en inglés y español están adjuntos. El texto en español es el mismo que Erick Iriarte ha distribuido - no entendi la cuestión de la traducción. Además, si él hubiera hecho, sería una contribución voluntaria, creo que la actitud debería ser otra. []s fraternos --c.a. On 03/12/2012 11:05 PM, jfcallo at ciencitec.com wrote: > Antonio: > Gracias un tal Iriarte hizo una pesima traduccion. > Atentamente > > > > > Antonio Medina Gómez escribió: > >> + 1 congratulations >> Antonio >> >> 2012/3/12 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> >> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura >>> Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a >>> country >>> Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she >>> transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a >>> nation and >>> is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic >>> internet. >>> >>> I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes >>> available. >>> >>> Warm Regards from Costa Rica, >>> >>> -- >>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>> >>> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>> Cell: +679 998 2851 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Coincidently I have been using a You-root (your term) since 2008. We call it an Open-root. I don't use the ICANN servers any longer. They don't see .бг (Bulgaria), .ku (Kurd), .linna (Official League of Indian Nations of North America), .malta (Malta), .pirates (german Pirates party, .ti (Tibet), .wa (Western Armenia), and many other TLDs. Why bother with ICANN nearsighted root ? Cheers - - - On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 20:37, Karl Auerbach wrote: > On 03/12/2012 04:33 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote: > > > A root including all known root zones is not an island. It's the whole > > (uncensored) net. Users don't have to juggle with ISPs to enjoy it. > > You might find my note from more than 4 years ago to be amusing: > > It's title is "What would the internet be like had there been no ICANN?" > > http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000331.html > > --karl-- > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From eiriarte at alfa-redi.org Tue Mar 13 01:53:54 2012 From: eiriarte at alfa-redi.org (Erick Iriarte Ahon) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:53:54 -0500 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Eu Tenho um Sonho - Sobre Internet, Gobernanza, Democracia y el Futuro del ICANN by @hartmutglaser References: <3FD4C0A1-8E68-4662-8742-3BCFB9A60A98@alfa-redi.org> Message-ID: FYI Inicio del mensaje reenviado: > De: Erick Iriarte Ahon > Fecha: 12 de marzo de 2012 19:37:06 GMT-05:00 > Para: "ag at lactld.org de LACTLD General" > Cc: LatinoamerICANN LatinoamerICANN > Asunto: Eu Tenho um Sonho - Sobre Internet, Gobernanza, Democracia y el Futuro del ICANN by @hartmutglaser > > Fuente: Presentación de Hartmut Glaser (@hartmutglaser) del CGI.BR en la apertura de la Reunión 43 del ICANN en San Jose > http://latinoamericann.org/?q=node/2080 > > "Eu Tenho um Sonho" ("I Have a Dream") é o nome dado ao histórico discurso público feito pelo ativista político norte-americano Martin Luther King no qual falava da necessidade de união e coexistência harmoniosa entre negros e brancos. O discurso, realizado no dia 28 de Agosto de 1963 nos degraus do Lincoln Memorial em Washington, D.C. como parte da Marcha de Washington por Empregos e Liberdade, foi um momento decisivo na história do Movimento Americano pelos Direitos Civis. > > > > Longe de mim de querer ser um novo Martin Luther King, mas, com muita satisfação e com profunda convicção, e também com muita humildade, venho à presença de voces defender principios que julgo importantes e fundamentais para a Internet. Por 40 vezes comparecí aos encontros da ICANN, sempre com o mesmo propósito: em busca de uma Internet de todos e para todos. > > > > Está reunião em San José da Costa Rica é a minha 41. participação. > > > > E os meus propósitos não mudaram: Continuo sonhando e lutando por uma Internet de fato universal (para todos) e auto-regulada (sem a intervenção de governos e outros agentes externos). > > > > Creio que o uso da Internet deve guiar-se pelos princípios de liberdade de expressão, de privacidade do indivíduo e de respeito aos direitos humanos, reconhecendo estes princípios como fundamentais para a preservação de uma sociedade justa e democrática. A governança da Internet deve ser exercida de forma transparente, multilateral e democrática, com a participação dos vários setores da sociedade, preservando e estimulando o seu caráter de criação coletiva. O acesso à Internet deve ser universal para que seja um meio para o desenvolvimento social e humano, contribuindo para a construção de uma sociedade inclusiva e não discriminatória em benefício de todos. A diversidade cultural deve ser respeitada e preservada e sua expressão deve ser estimulada, sem a imposição de crenças, costumes ou valores. A governança da Internet deve promover a contínua evolução e ampla difusão de novas tecnologias e modelos de uso e acesso. Filtragem ou privilégios de tráfego devem respeitar apenas critérios técnicos e éticos, não sendo admissíveis motivos políticos, comerciais, religiosos, culturais, ou qualquer outra forma de discriminação ou favorecimento. O combate a ilícitos na rede deve atingir os responsáveis finais e nunca os meios de acesso e transporte, sempre preservando os princípios maiores de defesa da liberdade, da privacidade e do respeito aos direitos humanos. A estabilidade, a segurança e a funcionalidade globais da rede devem ser preservadas de forma ativa através de medidas técnicas compatíveis com os padrões internacionais e estímulo ao uso das boas práticas. A Internet deve basear-se em padrões abertos que permitam a interoperabilidade e a participação de todos em seu desenvolvimento. O ambiente legal e regulatório deve preservar a dinâmica da Internet como espaço de colaboração. > > > > O principal valor da Internet é o social. Mais do que tecnológico, a Internet cria um ambiente de comunicação humana, de transações comerciais, de oportunidades para compartilhar conhecimentos. Esse ambiente deve estar disponível para todas as pessoas, independentemente do hardware, do software, da infraestrutura de rede, da cultura, da localização geográfica, da habilidade física ou mental, da condição socioeconômica ou do nivel de instrução de cada um. > > > > A universalidade e diversidade na Internet precisam ser mantidas e aprofundadas como fazemos na governança da internet brasileira, exercida a partir de um modelo democrático, transparente e pluralista, em que a participação dos diversos setores da sociedade é assegurada. Uma Governança que também é orientada pelos princípios da colaboração, da criação coletiva, da ética e dos direitos humanos. > > > > Garantir às pessoas com deficiência visual, auditiva, motora, mental ou de qualquer outra natureza as condições para que possam entender, navegar, interagir e se desenvolver no ambiente da Web é uma condição para que a mesma evolua num desenho universal inclusivo. A inclusão deve chegar também às novas gerações e aos idosos, considerando a necessária educação para gerar novas competências digitais. > > > > A Internet, mais do que transformar o modo como nos comunicamos, alterou a natureza de nossas relações sociais. A Internet em sua plenitude é um ambiente com novos locais de encontros. Transações comerciais e relações pessoais acontecem muitas vezes sem que as pessoas se encontrem pessoalmente. A confiança na Internet está diretamente associada ao direito de ampla liberdade de expressão, pesquisa e navegação, com a adoção de padrões e modelos tecnológicos que garantam privacidade e segurança aos usuários. > > > > A Internet tem se configurado como um espaço de disputas, de fechamentos em serviços corporativos e proprietários, de invasão da privacidade e de quebra da neutralidade. > > > > Estamos sendo desafiados como ICANN a sermos um espaço de consensos em torno de princípios e diretrizes para mantermos a Internet como uma plataforma aberta e universal. > > > > Desejo excelentes reuniões à todos os participantes, com discussões de alto nivel, e com a tomada de decisões que realmente defendam uma Internet de todos e para todos. > > > > Que este evento na cidade de San José seja marcado como parte de uma ‘marcha’ por uma Internet baseada em princípios de liberdade de expressão, de privacidade do indivíduo e de respeito aos direitos humanos, sendo este evento um momento decisivo na história de um ‘movimento internacional’ de inclusão digital dos mais de 7 bilhões de habitantes do mundo . > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Assim defino as palavras do Prof. Gaser. Tenemos que seguir... ----- ENVIADO DO iPAD DO ALAN ----- Alan Kardec +55 85 88909980 alankardec at gmail.com On 13/03/2012, at 02:53, Erick Iriarte Ahon wrote: > FYI > > Inicio del mensaje reenviado: > >> De: Erick Iriarte Ahon >> Fecha: 12 de marzo de 2012 19:37:06 GMT-05:00 >> Para: "ag at lactld.org de LACTLD General" >> Cc: LatinoamerICANN LatinoamerICANN >> Asunto: Eu Tenho um Sonho - Sobre Internet, Gobernanza, Democracia y el Futuro del ICANN by @hartmutglaser >> >> Fuente: Presentación de Hartmut Glaser (@hartmutglaser) del CGI.BR en la apertura de la Reunión 43 del ICANN en San Jose >> http://latinoamericann.org/?q=node/2080 >> >> "Eu Tenho um Sonho" ("I Have a Dream") é o nome dado ao histórico discurso público feito pelo ativista político norte-americano Martin Luther King no qual falava da necessidade de união e coexistência harmoniosa entre negros e brancos. O discurso, realizado no dia 28 de Agosto de 1963 nos degraus do Lincoln Memorial em Washington, D.C. como parte da Marcha de Washington por Empregos e Liberdade, foi um momento decisivo na história do Movimento Americano pelos Direitos Civis. >> >> >> >> Longe de mim de querer ser um novo Martin Luther King, mas, com muita satisfação e com profunda convicção, e também com muita humildade, venho à presença de voces defender principios que julgo importantes e fundamentais para a Internet. Por 40 vezes comparecí aos encontros da ICANN, sempre com o mesmo propósito: em busca de uma Internet de todos e para todos. >> >> >> >> Está reunião em San José da Costa Rica é a minha 41. participação. >> >> >> >> E os meus propósitos não mudaram: Continuo sonhando e lutando por uma Internet de fato universal (para todos) e auto-regulada (sem a intervenção de governos e outros agentes externos). >> >> >> >> Creio que o uso da Internet deve guiar-se pelos princípios de liberdade de expressão, de privacidade do indivíduo e de respeito aos direitos humanos, reconhecendo estes princípios como fundamentais para a preservação de uma sociedade justa e democrática. A governança da Internet deve ser exercida de forma transparente, multilateral e democrática, com a participação dos vários setores da sociedade, preservando e estimulando o seu caráter de criação coletiva. O acesso à Internet deve ser universal para que seja um meio para o desenvolvimento social e humano, contribuindo para a construção de uma sociedade inclusiva e não discriminatória em benefício de todos. A diversidade cultural deve ser respeitada e preservada e sua expressão deve ser estimulada, sem a imposição de crenças, costumes ou valores. A governança da Internet deve promover a contínua evolução e ampla difusão de novas tecnologias e modelos de uso e acesso. Filtragem ou privilégios de tráfego devem respeitar apenas critérios técnicos e éticos, não sendo admissíveis motivos políticos, comerciais, religiosos, culturais, ou qualquer outra forma de discriminação ou favorecimento. O combate a ilícitos na rede deve atingir os responsáveis finais e nunca os meios de acesso e transporte, sempre preservando os princípios maiores de defesa da liberdade, da privacidade e do respeito aos direitos humanos. A estabilidade, a segurança e a funcionalidade globais da rede devem ser preservadas de forma ativa através de medidas técnicas compatíveis com os padrões internacionais e estímulo ao uso das boas práticas. A Internet deve basear-se em padrões abertos que permitam a interoperabilidade e a participação de todos em seu desenvolvimento. O ambiente legal e regulatório deve preservar a dinâmica da Internet como espaço de colaboração. >> >> >> >> O principal valor da Internet é o social. Mais do que tecnológico, a Internet cria um ambiente de comunicação humana, de transações comerciais, de oportunidades para compartilhar conhecimentos. Esse ambiente deve estar disponível para todas as pessoas, independentemente do hardware, do software, da infraestrutura de rede, da cultura, da localização geográfica, da habilidade física ou mental, da condição socioeconômica ou do nivel de instrução de cada um. >> >> >> >> A universalidade e diversidade na Internet precisam ser mantidas e aprofundadas como fazemos na governança da internet brasileira, exercida a partir de um modelo democrático, transparente e pluralista, em que a participação dos diversos setores da sociedade é assegurada. Uma Governança que também é orientada pelos princípios da colaboração, da criação coletiva, da ética e dos direitos humanos. >> >> >> >> Garantir às pessoas com deficiência visual, auditiva, motora, mental ou de qualquer outra natureza as condições para que possam entender, navegar, interagir e se desenvolver no ambiente da Web é uma condição para que a mesma evolua num desenho universal inclusivo. A inclusão deve chegar também às novas gerações e aos idosos, considerando a necessária educação para gerar novas competências digitais. >> >> >> >> A Internet, mais do que transformar o modo como nos comunicamos, alterou a natureza de nossas relações sociais. A Internet em sua plenitude é um ambiente com novos locais de encontros. Transações comerciais e relações pessoais acontecem muitas vezes sem que as pessoas se encontrem pessoalmente. A confiança na Internet está diretamente associada ao direito de ampla liberdade de expressão, pesquisa e navegação, com a adoção de padrões e modelos tecnológicos que garantam privacidade e segurança aos usuários. >> >> >> >> A Internet tem se configurado como um espaço de disputas, de fechamentos em serviços corporativos e proprietários, de invasão da privacidade e de quebra da neutralidade. >> >> >> >> Estamos sendo desafiados como ICANN a sermos um espaço de consensos em torno de princípios e diretrizes para mantermos a Internet como uma plataforma aberta e universal. >> >> >> >> Desejo excelentes reuniões à todos os participantes, com discussões de alto nivel, e com a tomada de decisões que realmente defendam uma Internet de todos e para todos. >> >> >> >> Que este evento na cidade de San José seja marcado como parte de uma ‘marcha’ por uma Internet baseada em princípios de liberdade de expressão, de privacidade do indivíduo e de respeito aos direitos humanos, sendo este evento um momento decisivo na história de um ‘movimento internacional’ de inclusão digital dos mais de 7 bilhões de habitantes do mundo . >> >> >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jfcallo at ciencitec.com Tue Mar 13 13:22:27 2012 From: jfcallo at ciencitec.com (jfcallo at ciencitec.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:22:27 -0400 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BFCensura=3F?= In-Reply-To: <4F5F47AE.8040805@cafonso.ca> References: <20120312220504.66934gm8mhwq1ets@www.ciencitec.com> <4F5F47AE.8040805@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <20120313132227.770758jclz4ge8gj@www.ciencitec.com> Sres. Carlos A. Afonso/ Antonio Medina Con el debido respeto, lo mio fue una opinion, no una critica de la contribucion del Sr. Iriarte, por favor, este es un Foro donde se puede opinar, sugerir, recomendar, etc. o ¿no es asi? Fraternidad, es ser tolerante y no parcializarse y ver el origen de cada mensaje y el proposito del emisor, una cosa es la que se dice y otra la que se hace. Gracias Atentamente Jose F. 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Algunos bajo el pretexto de "autollamarse" especialistas de Internet, en vez de masificar han visto en este nuevo medio, un modo de lucrar, ya sea a traves de ONGs y llevarse el dinero facil, sorprendiendo a personas, instituciones, tanto del pais como del extranjero. Si bien Internet nos facilita la comunicacion y nos brinda una plena y total libertad de expresion, no permitamos que "sujetos" tomen el nombre de Internet para llenar su sacos y no masificar su buen y adecuado uso. Gracias Atentamente Jose F. Callo Romero Lima, Peru Erick Iriarte Ahon escribió: > FYI > > Inicio del mensaje reenviado: > >> De: Erick Iriarte Ahon >> Fecha: 12 de marzo de 2012 19:37:06 GMT-05:00 >> Para: "ag at lactld.org de LACTLD General" >> Cc: LatinoamerICANN LatinoamerICANN >> Asunto: Eu Tenho um Sonho - Sobre Internet, Gobernanza, Democracia >> y el Futuro del ICANN by @hartmutglaser >> >> Fuente: Presentación de Hartmut Glaser (@hartmutglaser) del CGI.BR >> en la apertura de la Reunión 43 del ICANN en San Jose >> http://latinoamericann.org/?q=node/2080 >> >> "Eu Tenho um Sonho" ("I Have a Dream") é o nome dado ao histórico >> discurso público feito pelo ativista político norte-americano >> Martin Luther King no qual falava da necessidade de união e >> coexistência harmoniosa entre negros e brancos. O discurso, >> realizado no dia 28 de Agosto de 1963 nos degraus do Lincoln >> Memorial em Washington, D.C. como parte da Marcha de Washington por >> Empregos e Liberdade, foi um momento decisivo na história do >> Movimento Americano pelos Direitos Civis. >> >> >> >> Longe de mim de querer ser um novo Martin Luther King, mas, com >> muita satisfação e com profunda convicção, e também com muita >> humildade, venho à presença de voces defender principios que julgo >> importantes e fundamentais para a Internet. Por 40 vezes comparecí >> aos encontros da ICANN, sempre com o mesmo propósito: em busca de >> uma Internet de todos e para todos. >> >> >> >> Está reunião em San José da Costa Rica é a minha 41. participação. >> >> >> >> E os meus propósitos não mudaram: Continuo sonhando e lutando por >> uma Internet de fato universal (para todos) e auto-regulada (sem a >> intervenção de governos e outros agentes externos). >> >> >> >> Creio que o uso da Internet deve guiar-se pelos princípios de >> liberdade de expressão, de privacidade do indivíduo e de respeito >> aos direitos humanos, reconhecendo estes princípios como >> fundamentais para a preservação de uma sociedade justa e >> democrática. A governança da Internet deve ser exercida de forma >> transparente, multilateral e democrática, com a participação dos >> vários setores da sociedade, preservando e estimulando o seu >> caráter de criação coletiva. O acesso à Internet deve ser >> universal para que seja um meio para o desenvolvimento social e >> humano, contribuindo para a construção de uma sociedade inclusiva e >> não discriminatória em benefício de todos. A diversidade cultural >> deve ser respeitada e preservada e sua expressão deve ser >> estimulada, sem a imposição de crenças, costumes ou valores. A >> governança da Internet deve promover a contínua evolução e ampla >> difusão de novas tecnologias e modelos de uso e acesso. Filtragem >> ou privilégios de tráfego devem respeitar a >> penas critérios técnicos e éticos, não sendo admissíveis motivos >> políticos, comerciais, religiosos, culturais, ou qualquer outra >> forma de discriminação ou favorecimento. O combate a ilícitos na >> rede deve atingir os responsáveis finais e nunca os meios de >> acesso e transporte, sempre preservando os princípios maiores de >> defesa da liberdade, da privacidade e do respeito aos direitos >> humanos. A estabilidade, a segurança e a funcionalidade globais da >> rede devem ser preservadas de forma ativa através de medidas >> técnicas compatíveis com os padrões internacionais e estímulo ao >> uso das boas práticas. A Internet deve basear-se em padrões >> abertos que permitam a interoperabilidade e a participação de >> todos em seu desenvolvimento. O ambiente legal e regulatório deve >> preservar a dinâmica da Internet como espaço de colaboração. >> >> >> >> O principal valor da Internet é o social. Mais do que tecnológico, >> a Internet cria um ambiente de comunicação humana, de transações >> comerciais, de oportunidades para compartilhar conhecimentos. Esse >> ambiente deve estar disponível para todas as pessoas, >> independentemente do hardware, do software, da infraestrutura de >> rede, da cultura, da localização geográfica, da habilidade física >> ou mental, da condição socioeconômica ou do nivel de instrução de >> cada um. >> >> >> >> A universalidade e diversidade na Internet precisam ser mantidas e >> aprofundadas como fazemos na governança da internet brasileira, >> exercida a partir de um modelo democrático, transparente e >> pluralista, em que a participação dos diversos setores da sociedade >> é assegurada. Uma Governança que também é orientada pelos >> princípios da colaboração, da criação coletiva, da ética e dos >> direitos humanos. >> >> >> >> Garantir às pessoas com deficiência visual, auditiva, motora, >> mental ou de qualquer outra natureza as condições para que possam >> entender, navegar, interagir e se desenvolver no ambiente da Web é >> uma condição para que a mesma evolua num desenho universal >> inclusivo. A inclusão deve chegar também às novas gerações e aos >> idosos, considerando a necessária educação para gerar novas >> competências digitais. >> >> >> >> A Internet, mais do que transformar o modo como nos comunicamos, >> alterou a natureza de nossas relações sociais. A Internet em sua >> plenitude é um ambiente com novos locais de encontros. Transações >> comerciais e relações pessoais acontecem muitas vezes sem que as >> pessoas se encontrem pessoalmente. A confiança na Internet está >> diretamente associada ao direito de ampla liberdade de expressão, >> pesquisa e navegação, com a adoção de padrões e modelos >> tecnológicos que garantam privacidade e segurança aos usuários. >> >> >> >> A Internet tem se configurado como um espaço de disputas, de >> fechamentos em serviços corporativos e proprietários, de invasão da >> privacidade e de quebra da neutralidade. >> >> >> >> Estamos sendo desafiados como ICANN a sermos um espaço de consensos >> em torno de princípios e diretrizes para mantermos a Internet como >> uma plataforma aberta e universal. >> >> >> >> Desejo excelentes reuniões à todos os participantes, com discussões >> de alto nivel, e com a tomada de decisões que realmente defendam >> uma Internet de todos e para todos. >> >> >> >> Que este evento na cidade de San José seja marcado como parte de >> uma 'marcha' por uma Internet baseada em princípios de liberdade de >> expressão, de privacidade do indivíduo e de respeito aos direitos >> humanos, sendo este evento um momento decisivo na história de um >> 'movimento internacional' de inclusão digital dos mais de 7 bilhões >> de habitantes do mundo . >> >> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Tue Mar 13 13:32:20 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:32:20 -0400 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BFCensura=3F?= In-Reply-To: <20120313132227.770758jclz4ge8gj@www.ciencitec.com> References: <20120312220504.66934gm8mhwq1ets@www.ciencitec.com> <4F5F47AE.8040805@cafonso.ca> <20120313132227.770758jclz4ge8gj@www.ciencitec.com> Message-ID: <1ADE4710-ACCF-40E2-97FC-FA4D22BE6975@privaterra.org> Quick translation: On 2012-03-13, at 1:22 PM, jfcallo at ciencitec.com wrote: > Sres. Carlos A. Afonso/ Antonio Medina > Con el debido respeto, lo mio fue una opinion, no una critica de la contribucion del Sr. Iriarte, por favor, este es un Foro donde se puede opinar, sugerir, recomendar, etc. o ¿no es asi? With all due respect, it was my opinion and not a criticism of Mr. Irararte. This is a discussion space where one can suggest, comment, recommend, etc, isn't that the case? > Fraternidad, es ser tolerante y no parcializarse y ver el origen de cada mensaje y el proposito del emisor, una cosa es la que se dice y otra la que se hace. It is important to be tolerant and not get paralized and see the origin of each message, the aim of the writer... it is one thing to say something and another on what ones does. > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t regards Robert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Tue Mar 13 14:41:04 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:41:04 -0300 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BFCensura=3F?= In-Reply-To: <1ADE4710-ACCF-40E2-97FC-FA4D22BE6975@privaterra.org> References: <20120312220504.66934gm8mhwq1ets@www.ciencitec.com> <4F5F47AE.8040805@cafonso.ca> <20120313132227.770758jclz4ge8gj@www.ciencitec.com> <1ADE4710-ACCF-40E2-97FC-FA4D22BE6975@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <4F5F94C0.808@cafonso.ca> OK, Robert, here is the translation of the messages' sequence which motivated Mr Callo's reaction (although I think this is a minor issue which should not take further time from the list members): El discurso de la pres.Chinchilla en inglés y español están adjuntos. El texto en español es el mismo que Erick Iriarte ha distribuido - no entendi la cuestión de la traducción. Además, si él hubiera hecho, sería una contribución voluntaria, creo que la actitud debería ser otra. []s fraternos --c.a. --- Pres.Chinchilla's speech in English and Spanish are attached. The text in Spanish is the same which Erick Iriarte has distributed - I did not understand the translation issue. Further, if he had done it, it would be a voluntary contribution, I think the attitude should have been another one, --- On 03/12/2012 11:05 PM, jfcallo at ciencitec.com wrote: > Antonio: > Gracias un tal Iriarte hizo una pesima traduccion. > Atentamente --- Antonio: Thanks a certain Iriarte did an awful translation. Sincerely --- > > > > > Antonio Medina Gómez escribió: > >> + 1 congratulations >> Antonio >> >> 2012/3/12 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> >> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura >>> Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a >>> country >>> Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she >>> transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a >>> nation and >>> is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic >>> internet. >>> >>> I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes >>> available. >>> >>> Warm Regards from Costa Rica, >>> On 03/13/2012 02:32 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Quick translation: > > On 2012-03-13, at 1:22 PM, jfcallo at ciencitec.com wrote: > >> Sres. Carlos A. Afonso/ Antonio Medina > > >> Con el debido respeto, lo mio fue una opinion, no una critica de la contribucion del Sr. Iriarte, por favor, este es un Foro donde se puede opinar, sugerir, recomendar, etc. o ¿no es asi? > > With all due respect, it was my opinion and not a criticism of Mr. Irararte. This is a discussion space where one can suggest, comment, recommend, etc, isn't that the case? > >> Fraternidad, es ser tolerante y no parcializarse y ver el origen de cada mensaje y el proposito del emisor, una cosa es la que se dice y otra la que se hace. > > It is important to be tolerant and not get paralized and see the origin of each message, the aim of the writer... it is one thing to say something and another on what ones does. > >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > regards > > Robert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jfcallo at ciencitec.com Tue Mar 13 15:23:07 2012 From: jfcallo at ciencitec.com (jfcallo at ciencitec.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:23:07 -0400 Subject: [governance] Thank you Robert In-Reply-To: <1ADE4710-ACCF-40E2-97FC-FA4D22BE6975@privaterra.org> References: <20120312220504.66934gm8mhwq1ets@www.ciencitec.com> <4F5F47AE.8040805@cafonso.ca> <20120313132227.770758jclz4ge8gj@www.ciencitec.com> <1ADE4710-ACCF-40E2-97FC-FA4D22BE6975@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <20120313152307.23326bcdxpi1wc63@www.ciencitec.com> Mr. Robert Guerra: Thank you very much for your kind translations, although some like Afonso this does not matter, it is these small details that draw the type of members of an organization and how it is large and especially suitable for use bune. Thanks again Robert, your order here from Lima, Peru, ready to support and promote Internet issues, electronic government and domains, as a journalist I am. Attentively Jose F. Callo Romero CEO ciencitec.com Journalist Lima, Peru -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 17:59:36 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:59:36 +0200 Subject: [governance] Anti-Counterfeiting: Richard O'Dwyer case: TVShack creator's US extradition approved Message-ID: <4F5FC348.3090801@gmail.com> 13 March 2012 Last updated at 18:04 GMT Richard O'Dwyer case: TVShack creator's US extradition approved Richard O'Dwyer Mr O'Dwyer could face a maximum sentence of five years in prison if found guilty in the US Home Secretary Theresa May has approved the extradition to the US of a student accused of copyright infringement. The US authorities say 23-year-old Sheffield student Richard O'Dwyer's TVShack website hosted links to pirated films and television programmes. A spokesman said Mrs May had "carefully considered all relevant matters" before signing the order. Mr O'Dwyer's mother Julia, from Chesterfield, said he had been "sold down the river" by the government. Westminster Magistrates' Court ruled in January that Mr O'Dwyer could be extradited. The Sheffield Hallam University student said he was "surprised" when police officers from the UK and US seized equipment at his home in South Yorkshire in November 2010. The case was brought by the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which claims that the TVShack.net website earned more than $230,000 (£147,000) in advertising revenue before US authorities obtained a warrant and seized the domain name in June 2010. Mr O'Dwyer has argued that TVShack did not store copyright material itself and merely directed users to other sites, making it similar to Google. He could face a maximum sentence of five years in the US. Speaking to BBC Newsbeat, Mr O'Dwyer said: "I've done nothing wrong under UK law, and, it's pretty ridiculous isn't it? "A 65-year-old man was extradited a few weeks ago, so if they can extradite someone that old they can extradite anyone really, couldn't they? "Copyright laws differ between countries and that's yet to be fought, that argument." 'Life disrupted' On Tuesday his mother said: "Today, yet another British citizen is being sold down the river by the British Government. Continue reading the main story Extradition analysis Clive Coleman Legal correspondent, BBC News This decision does not mean for a moment that Richard O'Dwyer is going to be put on a plane, now, today, tomorrow or the next week or so. There will be a full hearing. He is being extradited under the 2003 Extradition Act, this is the controversial act under which Christopher Tappin, the 65-year-old British businessman was also recently extradited. Gary McKinnon the alleged computer hacker, his extradition is also being sought under that act, and it is an act which many people say is a lopsided relationship which favours the United States. If we want someone from there we have to show what they call 'probable cause', we have to present evidence. If they want someone from here they have to show 'reasonable suspicion'. It's worth also mentioning that the offences that they want Richard O'Dwyer for are copyright infringement offences which carry five-year prison sentences in the United States - a much lesser prison sentence of two years in the UK. "Richard's life - his studies, work opportunities, financial security - is being disrupted, for who knows how long, because the UK Government has not introduced the much-needed changes to the extradition law. "The US is coming for the young [Richard], the old [Chris Tappin] and the ill [Gary McKinnon] and our government is paving the way. "By rights, it should make for an interesting conversation between the Obamas and Camerons aboard Air Force One - but I'm not holding my breath. "If Richard appears to have committed a crime in this country - then try him in this country. "Instead, the home secretary wants to send him thousands of miles away and leave him languishing, just like Chris Tappin, in a US jail, before he has a chance to demonstrate his innocence, under British law, of the allegations made against him." She added: "It's disgusting. Next time it may be your son. I urge everyone who cares about unfair extradition to write to their MP and insist this disreputable law is changed. "We are now carefully considering all Richard's legal options." The Home Office has clarified the time Mr O'Dwyer has to appeal against the home secretary's decision. It said an individual had 14 days from the time of notification. In Mr O'Dwyer's case, that was on Monday, so the deadline for him to appeal is 26 March. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-17355203 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 18:28:25 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:28:25 +0200 Subject: [governance] US Aims To Boost Its Efforts Against Overseas Infringers Message-ID: <4F5FCA09.1050109@gmail.com> US Aims To Boost Its Efforts Against Overseas Infringers Available for IP-Watch Subscribers Published on 13 March 2012 @ 9:26 pm EmailShare Print This Post Print This Post By Steven Seidenberg for Intellectual Property Watch US President Barack Obama wants the country's Justice Department to get by with a bit less money next fiscal year -- but not when it comes to prosecuting overseas infringers of American IP rights. 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Costa Rica!   NKURUNZIZA Jean Paul Réseau des Télécentres Communautaires du Burundi : Président www.rtcb.bi Burundi Youth Training Centre : Secrétaire Général www.bytc.bi Tel : +257 79 981459 ________________________________ De : Imran Ahmed Shah À : "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" ; Robert Guerra Envoyé le : Mardi 13 mars 2012 6h41 Objet : Re: [governance] Opening Speech by the Costa Rica President Laura Chinchilla Please find here under a link where transcrip of the speech has been uploaded (English Version).   http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29527 Transcript: President Chinchilla's Speech http://costarica43.icann.org/meetings/sanjose2012/transcript-president-chinchilla-speech-12mar12-en.pdf      Thanks   Imran Ahmed Shah From: Robert Guerra >To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >Sent: Monday, 12 March 2012, 22:13 >Subject: Re: [governance] Opening Speech by the Costa Rica President Laura Chinchilla > > >Sala, > > > > >I have been following the ICANN meeting remotely. > > >Indeed, great comments made by the Costa Rican president in support of Human Rights, Freedom & Democracy. I look forward to the transcript. > > >regards > > >Robert > > >-- >R. Guerra >Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom  >Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > >On 2012-03-12, at 12:02 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > >Dear All, >> >> >>It was an absolute privilege to listen to Her Excellency Madam Laura Chincilla's Opening Speech at the ICANN 43 who spoke about how as a country Costa Rica treasures freedom and peace. It was awesome to see how she transposed the lessons of democracy that they have learned as a nation and is passionate about advocating for an open and free and democratic internet. >> >> >>I am waiting for the transcripts and will post it as soon as it becomes available. >> >> >>Warm Regards from Costa Rica, >> >> >>-- >> >>Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> >>Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>Cell: +679 998 2851 >>  >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >>You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>To be removed from the list, visit: >>    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >>For all other list information and functions, see: >>    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>    http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >>Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: >    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:     governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:     http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 07:18:55 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:18:55 +0200 Subject: [governance] US Aims To Boost Its Efforts Against Overseas Infringers In-Reply-To: <002f01cd01cb$081a90c0$184fb240$@ip-watch.ch> References: <002f01cd01cb$081a90c0$184fb240$@ip-watch.ch> Message-ID: <4F607E9F.8090902@gmail.com> *US Aims To Boost Its Efforts Against Overseas Infringers **Description: Available for IP-Watch Subscribers* Published on 13 March 2012 @ 9:26 pm EmailShare Description: Print This Post Print This Post By Steven Seidenberg for Intellectual Property Watch US President Barack Obama wants the country's Justice Department to get by with a bit less money next fiscal year -- but not when it comes to prosecuting overseas infringers of American IP rights. The President's proposed budget for fiscal 2013 would decrease the Justice Department's overall funding by a modest 0.4 percent. However, the budget would boost the money spent on transnational enforcement of intellectual property law by 14 percent (from US$35 million in FY2012 to US$40 million in FY2013). The staff devoted to criminally prosecuting infringers would increase by 41 percent (from 20 individuals to 34). This increase, according to the Justice Department, "will allow the Department to quickly address IP threats when they are first noticed and stop them abroad more readily." The budget request indicates President Obama wants to ratchet up the US government's recent efforts against activities outside American borders that hurt owners of US copyrights and trademarks. Since its start less than two years ago, the US government's "In Our Sites" program has seized the domain names of over 350 websites that allegedly distributed or sold products that infringed US copyrights or trademarks. Many of those supposedly infringing sites were operated outside the US. In addition, the US Justice Department recently spearheaded an international effort that shut down the popular web site Megaupload, which was owned by a Hong Kong company. The US charged the company and its top seven executives (none of whom was a US citizen or resident) with running an international organised criminal enterprise that committed massive worldwide online piracy of US copyrighted movies, TV shows, music and software. *Related Articles:* * Tech Industry Blasts Obama Administration, Says Legitimate Anti-Counterfeiting Efforts Being 'Hijacked' * US Chamber Urges More IP Protection As Job Booster; Tech Supporters Disagree * Most-Read /IP-Watch/ Posts Of 2011 Tell Story Of International IP Policymaking /Steven Seidenberg is freelance reporter (and attorney) who has been covering intellectual property developments in the US for more than 15 years. He is based in the greater New York City area and may be reached at info at ip-watch.ch ./ Categories: Subscribers , Copyright Policy , Enforcement , English , Finance , Information and Communications Technology/ Broadcasting , Patent Policy , Perspectives on the US , Technical Cooperation/ Technology Transfer , Trademarks/Geographical Indications/Domains , US Policy Description: Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 Unported -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 704 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1035 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 5281 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 07:30:26 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:30:26 +0200 Subject: [governance] DOJ Asks Court To Keep Secret Any Partnership Between Google, NSA Message-ID: <4F608152.703@gmail.com> March 09, 2012 DOJ Asks Court To Keep Secret Any Partnership Between Google, NSA The Justice Department is defending the government's refusal to discuss---or even acknowledge the existence of---any cooperative research and development agreement between Google and the National Security Agency. The Washington based advocacy group Electronic Privacy Information Center sued in federal district court here to obtain documents about any such agreement between the Internet search giant and the security agency. The NSA responded to the suit with a so-called "Glomar" response in which the agency said it could neither confirm nor deny whether any responsive records exist. U.S. District Judge Richard Leon in Washington sided with the government last July. A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit is scheduled to hear the dispute March 20. EPIC filed a Freedom of Information Act request in early 2010, noting media reports at the time that the NSA and Google had agreed to a partnership following the cyber attacks in China that year against Google. EPIC asked for, among other things, communication between the NSA and Google about Gmail and Google's "decision to fail to routinely encrypt" messages before Jan. 13, 2010. The NSA's response to the request for records noted that the agency "works with a broad range of commercial partners and research associations" to ensure the availability of secure information systems. The agency, however, refused to confirm or deny any partnership with Google. The security agency said it routinely monitors vulnerabilities in commercial technology and cryptographic products because the government relies heavily on private companies for word processing systems and e-mail software. "If NSA determines that certain security vulnerabilities or malicious attacks pose a threat to U.S. government information systems, NSA may take action," DOJ Civil Division lawyers Catherine Hancock and Douglas Letter said in a brief in the D.C. Circuit in January. DOJ's legal team said that acknowledging whether NSA and Google formed a partnership from a cyber attack would illuminate whether the government "considered the alleged attack to be of consequence for critical U.S. government information systems." NSA said it cannot provide documents---or confirm their existence---because the information would alert adversaries about the security agency's priorities, threat assessments and countermeasures. DOJ said media reports about the alleged Google partnership with NSA do not constitute official acknowledgement. /The Washington Post/ and /The New York Times/ both reported that Google contacted the NSA after the Jan. 2010 cyber attack, which the company said was rooted in China and targeted access to accounts of Chinese human rights activists. /The Wall Street Journal/ said NSA's general counsel worked out a cooperative research and development agreement with Google. EPIC's attorneys, including Marc Rotenberg, the group's president, said in court papers that the document request includes records that are not relevant to the NSA's information assurance mission. "The NSA mischaracterizes EPIC's FOIA Request by stating that responsive documents would reveal 'information about a potential Google-NSA relationship,'" Rotenberg said. The crux of the records request, Rotenberg said, is Google's switch to application encryption by default for Gmail accounts soon after the cyber attack. Google in 2008 began allowing users to encrypt mail passing through the company servers, EPIC said in its brief, but encryption was not provided by default. EPIC's brief said the failure of the NSA to conduct a search for records "deprives the court of the ability to meaningfully assess the propriety" of the agency's response that it can neither confirm nor deny the existence of responsive records. "Without first conducting the search, not even the agency can know whether there is a factual basis for its legal position," Rotenberg said. EPIC said its records request does not seek documents about NSA's role to secure government computer networks. "Google provides cloud-based services to consumers, not critical infrastructure services to the government," Rotenberg said. Posted by Mike Scarcella on March 09, 2012 at 12:29 PM in Balancing Act , Crime and Punishment , Current Affairs , Justice Department , Legal Business , Lobbying , Politics and Government , Travel , Web/Tech | Permalink Digg This | Save to del.icio.us TrackBack TrackBack URL for this entry: http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451d94869e20167639aa9ef970b -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From sergioalvesjunior at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 11:36:37 2012 From: sergioalvesjunior at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9rgio_Alves_Jr=2E?=) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:36:37 -0300 Subject: [governance] A couple of posts about the ITU and state control of the Internet In-Reply-To: <0940D377-A87C-49CB-BA63-87F40C8B3C52@consensus.pro> References: <0940D377-A87C-49CB-BA63-87F40C8B3C52@consensus.pro> Message-ID: Dear Nick, Being involved with the Brazilian preparation for WCIT-12, I can express my feelings that this US memorandum is much more realistic about what we expect to happen in Dubai than most posts I have been reading here. Abraços, Sérgio --------=====-------- *"US memo: ITU's Dubai meeting not likely to affect Internet Governance"* by Milton Mueller http://blog.internetgovernance.org/blog/_archives/2012/1/30/4988735.html “A memo from the US government dated January 23, 2012, makes it clear that the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT-12) to be held in Dubai this December poses little threat of a "takeover" of the Internet by intergovernmental institutions. (...) According to the US memo, that strategy was completely successful. "*The existing ITRs have been accepted as the framework for negotiations," the memo says. "There are no pending proposals to invest the ITU with ICANN-like Internet governance authority.*" (...) But why, we must ask, are some journalists, consultants, and even U.S. government officials still going around saying that WCIT-12 is set to become some kind of battle royale over the future of Internet governance? Why are people like David Gross and Phil Wieser, advisors or ambassadors to the US government, quoted in these articles as if they are deeply concerned about the Internet sliding into some Russo-Chinese statist abyss?* If, as the memo says, the US wishes to expand the coalition of actors paying attention to WCIT-12, does it think that scaring people with false or inflated threats is an appropriate way to do so?* Why not make the case for further liberalization of international markets honestly, on the merits?” --------=====-------- Em 10 de março de 2012 18:15, Nick Ashton-Hart escreveu: > Good evening list members > > I thought I would send along details of two posts that I hope will be of > interest to you all: > > First, Matthias Langenegger of CCIA has a blog post of his experience at > the recent HRC panel discussion of human rights on the Internet in Geneva > (and the attempts by Russia, China, and friends to disrupt the meeting > etc.) The blog post is here: > http://www.ccianet.org/index.asp?bid=89&BlogEntryID=224&FormID=300&catid=0 > > Also by CCIA, the CEO has a Huffington Post OpEd on the threats to the > open Internet posed by these countries' agendas being pushed at the ITU: > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-j-black/uns-itu-could-become-next_b_1332768.html > > Have a good weekend :) > > All the best, Nick > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Wed Mar 14 12:05:45 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:05:45 -0400 Subject: [governance] Networked Authoritarianism and Social Media in Azerbaijan Message-ID: <9342ADB3-F31D-4B79-BE94-9D70E0DF91AB@privaterra.org> Katy Pearce just posted on twitter that her paper on Networked Authoritarianism & Social Media in Azerbaijan has just been published. Here's details - URL - http://is.gd/3DxyC8 (nods @rmack, @pnhoward, @ethanz, @evgenymorozov) Authors: Katy E. Pearce, Sarah Kendzior Article first published online: 14 MAR 2012 The diffusion of digital media does not always have democratic consequences. This mixed-methods study examines how the government of Azerbaijan dissuaded Internet users from political activism. We examine how digital media were used for networked authoritarianism, a form of Internet control common in former Soviet states where manipulation over digitally mediated social networks is used more than outright censorship. Through a content analysis of 3 years of Azerbaijani media, a 2-year structural equation model of the relationship between Internet use and attitudes toward protest, and interviews with Azerbaijani online activists, we find that the government has successfully dissuaded frequent Internet users from supporting protest and average Internet users from using social media for political purposes. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 13:31:04 2012 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:31:04 +0000 Subject: [governance] FW: [kictanet] ICANN says it will tackle conflict-of-interest concerns In-Reply-To: <23205.199.91.194.1.1331739892.squirrel@sqmail.gn.apc.org> References: <23205.199.91.194.1.1331739892.squirrel@sqmail.gn.apc.org> Message-ID: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World! > Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:44:52 +0000 > From: alice at apc.org > Subject: [kictanet] ICANN says it will tackle conflict-of-interest concerns > CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > ICANN says it will tackle conflict-of-interest concerns > The agency has been criticized for perceived conflicts of interest within > its board and staff > > By Rebecca Wanjiku | Computerworld Kenya | 13 March 12 > http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/internet/3343962/icann-says-it-will-tackle-conflict-of-interest-concerns/ > > The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) has > appointed an outside team to review its code of conduct following > complaints of conflict of interest within the board and staff. > > > Rod Beckstrom, ICANN president and CEO, announced Monday that Jermyn > Brooks, Aron Cramer and Mervyn King will review and provide advice about > the ethics and conflict-of-interest policies at ICANN. "I believe it is > time to further tighten up the rules that have allowed perceived conflicts > to exist within our board," Beckstrom said in his opening address at > ICANN's latest public meeting, taking place in San José, Costa Rica. > > "This is necessary not just to be responsive to the growing chorus of > criticism about ICANN's ethics environment, but to ensure that absolute > dedication to the public good supersedes all other priorities," he said. > Beckstrom's remarks followed criticism of ICANN's conflict-of-interest > policy by the U.S. National Telecommunications and Information > Administration (NTIA) Over the weekend, the NTIA cancelled a request for > proposals (RFP) to operate the functions of the Internet Assigned Names > Authority (IANA), saying it had not received satisfactory bids. It said it > was adding new requirements for the RFP, including a "structural > separation of policymaking from implementation," a "robust companywide > conflict of interest policy," and "consultation and reporting requirements > to increase transparency and accountability to the international > community." IANA is currently a department of ICANN. Its functions include > managing the DNS Root Zone and assigning generic top-level domains > (gTLDs). The NTIA plans to reissue its RFP at a future date. In the > meantime, ICANN will continue to manage its operations until September. > The Internet community has been raising concerns about conflicts of > interest at ICANN ever since the previous board chairman, Peter Dengate > Thrush, left ICANN to chair Top Level Domain Holdings, a company expected > to benefit from the planned introduction of new gTLDs. "Every director is > required to file a statement of conflict of interest, which will be > reviewed to ensure all potential conflicts are visible," ICANN board > chairman Steve Crocker said Monday. The application process for the new > gTLDs has heightened the call for transparency and accountability within > ICANN, mainly because the people who serve the community are also business > people who expect to do business with ICANN. "ICANN must place commercial > and financial interests in their appropriate context," Beckstrom said. > "How can it do this if all top leadership is from the very domain name > industry it is supposed to coordinate independently?" Beckstrom said the > new gTLD program has received 254 registrations online, with every > registrant entitled to request 50 different gTLDs. The application > deadline is April 12 and ICANN will reveal the applicants May 1. ICANN is > expected to have a new CEO by July, when Beckstrom steps down. He cited > potential conflicts of interest as one of the potential challenges for any > new ICANN leader. "A more subtle but related risk is the tangle of > conflicting agendas within the board that would make it more difficult for > any CEO to meet the requirements of this deeply rewarding and sometimes > frustrating job," he said. In the coming week, ICANN is expected to > continue discussions on the new gTLD application process as it relates to > brand protection and address issues of cybersecurity, IPv6 deployment and > security and resilience of the Domain Name System. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World! > Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:08:14 +0000 > From: alice at apc.org > Subject: [kictanet] Domain seizures for copyright infringement likely to go global > CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > Domain seizures for copyright infringement likely to go global > Law enforement officials urge ICANN to take steps to ensure compliance > with international agreements > > By Rebecca Wanjiku | Computerworld Kenya | 14 March 12 > > Efforts to take down websites for copyright infringement are likely to > move beyond U.S.-based registries, with ICANN (the Internet Corporation > for Assigned Names and Numbers) promising to more closely cooperate with > global law enforcement agencies and governments. > > Cooperation to combat copyright infringement has been a hot topic this > week at ICANN's international meeting in San José, Costa Rica. There are > 22 registries and over 700 registrars accredited by ICANN. Registries > contain domain names registered in a top-level domain, while registrars > sell domains. > > Any domain under a U.S. registry must follow U.S. laws regardless of where > the servers are, according to agreements currently in place. The seizure > of domains deemed to infringe on copyrights was first carried out by > Verisign, the operator of the registry for .net and .com. > > During an open session with the Government Advisory Committee (GAC), the > ICANN board confirmed that it will enforce its contracts with registrars > more effectively in order to meet expectations from governments and law > enforcement authorities. The expectations were contained in a 12- page > document submitted by the GAC, which also includes representatives from > national law enforcement agencies as well as Interpol. > > "There has been some agreement on 11 of the 12 recommendations made by law > enforcement authorities to the registrar accreditation agreement; we will > work to ensure agreement meets expectations and give registrars the > incentive to accept recommendations right away," said Kurt Pritz, ICANN > senior vice president in charge of stakeholder relations. > > Representatives from governments, Interpol and the U.S. Federal Bureau of > Investigation said they felt that ICANN's failure to enforce its own > contractual agreements was damaging to Domain Name System users as well as > end users. > > Some of the 12 recommendations relating to registrar agreements was > inclusion of a clause that holds registrars responsible through negligence > for registering domains engaging in criminal activity. Another > recommendation is for registrars to maintain detailed information of > domain buyers, including their source IP addresses and transaction > information, and validate the contact information given by domain buyers. > > Law enforcement officials have also urged ICANN to review registrars' > compliance record with enforcement agreements prior to renewing their > contracts. > > "Complaints on compliance started coming in the last six to nine months, a > team of 12 is now in place and will improve the quality of service," said > Rod Beckstrom, ICANN CEO and president. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 03:31:45 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:31:45 +0200 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Blocking_Of_Internet_Traffic_Common?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?_In_Europe_=96_EU_Report?= Message-ID: <4F619AE1.5040800@gmail.com> [The Great Democratic Firewall... with the guarded insight that ACTA etc will be the guiding light to do something about this... the road to hell is paved...] Blocking Of Internet Traffic Common In Europe – EU Report Published on 14 March 2012 @ 12:11 pm Intellectual Property Watch By Maricel Estavillo for Intellectual Property Watch Operators and internet service providers in Europe resort mostly to blocking voice-over-internet protocol (VoIP) and peer-to-peer traffics to guard the security of and prevent congestion on their networks, according to a preliminary report from the European Union telecommunications regulator, the Body of European Regulators for Electronic Communications (BEREC). The two measures are the most common internet traffic management practices deployed by providers of internet on both fixed and mobile networks. The report, the first of its kind from BEREC, was undertaken to identify emerging trends in traffic management practices and to find evidence of negative experiences from users and content and application providers resulting from the practices. The report was based on the responses from 400 operators surveyed. The link to the report is here [pdf]. “When blocking/throttling is implemented in the network, it is typically done through deep packet inspection,” BEREC said in a press release. From its survey, BEREC said it found operators resorting to a “wide-range of practices” and also using a “wide-range of implementation methods” to include active buffering and application-specific techniques. Policy justifications given by respondents include security issues such as controlling spam and for them to prevent network congestion to allow them to offer specialised services such as internet telephony or TV. The preliminary report was submitted by BEREC to the European Commission on 6 March. The regulatory body will publish the full report in the second quarter of the year. Paris-based advocacy group La Quadrature du Net said in a press release that the findings in the report confirm the complaints against net restrictions that were submitted by some European customers on the RespectMyNet.eu platform. The group is now calling for an EU-wide internet neutrality law. “Such widespread practices clearly show that EU Commissioner Neelie Kroes’ ‘laisser-faire’ approach on net neutrality allows operators to violate their users’ freedom of communication and privacy. She can no longer deny the evidence and must urgently propose a EU-wide law on Net Neutrality, so as to ensure that freedoms online but also innovation and competition in the digital economy are protected,” said La Quadrature spokesperson Jérémie Zimmermann. Related Articles: EU Telecoms Said To Be Unfairly Restricting Internet Access Filtering and Blocking Closer To The Core Of The Internet? Council Of Europe Sees Human Rights Concerns In Internet Restrictions -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 03:58:36 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:58:36 +0200 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?StratforLeaks=3A_Google_Ideas_Direc?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?tor_Involved_in_=91Regime_Change=92?= Message-ID: <4F61A12C.8060909@gmail.com> StratforLeaks: Google Ideas Director Involved in ‘Regime Change’ Google CEO Eric Schmidt gives a speech during the opening ceremony of the CeBIT computer fair in Hanover 5 March 2012. (Photo: REUTERS - Fabian Bimmer) By: Yazan al-Saadi Published Wednesday, March 14, 2012 Top Google execs, including the company’s CEO and one of Barack Obama’s major presidential campaign donors Eric Schmidt, informed the intelligence agency Stratfor about Google’s activities and internal communication regarding “regime change” in the Middle East, according to Stratfor emails released by WikiLeaks and obtained by Al-Akhbar. The other source cited was Google’s director for security and safety Marty Lev. The briefings mainly focused on the movements of Jared Cohen, currently the director of Google Ideas, a “think/do-tank” billed as a vehicle for spreading American-style liberal democracy. Cohen was also a former member of US Secretary of State’s Policy Planning Staff and former advisor to Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton. Email exchanges, starting February 2011, suggest that Google execs were suspicious that Cohen was coordinating his moves with the White House and cut Cohen’s mission short at times for fear he was taking too many risks. Stratfor’s vice-president of counter-terrorism Fred Burton, who seemed opposed to Google’s alleged covert role in “foaming” uprisings, describes Cohen as a “loose Cannon” whose killing or kidnapping “might be the best thing to happen” to expose Google. *The Cohen Conspiracy* Stratfor’s spotlight on Cohen began on 9 February 2012 after Burton forwarded to the secure email list a Foreign Policy article discussing Cohen’s move from the State Department to Google Ideas. With this article, Burton noted that Cohen had dinner in Cairo with Wael Ghonim on January 27, 2011 just hours before the Egyptian Google Executive was famously picked up by Egypt’s State Security. (doc-id 1122191 ) On the same day, Stratfor’s staff make reference to a Huffington Post article which highlighted Cohen’s role in “delaying the scheduled maintenance on Twitter so the Iranian revolution could keep going” and a Foreign Policy article that noted that Cohen “was a Rhodes scholar, spent time in Iran, [and] hung out in Iraq during the war…”. These casual discovers further perked Stratfor’s curiosity about Cohen. (doc-id 1629270 ) The following day, Burton forwarded a message to the secure email list from “a very good Google source” who claimed that Cohen “[was] off to Gaza next week”. Burton added, “Cohen, a Jew, is bound to get himself whacked….Google is not clear if Cohen is operating [with a] State Dept [or] WH [White House] license, or [is] a hippie activist.” Korena Zucha, another senior analyst on the list, queried, “Why hasn’t Google cut ties to Cohen yet? Or is Cohen’s activity being endorsed by those higher up in the [company] than your contact?” In turn, Burton replied, “Cohen’s rabbi is Eric Schmidt and Obama lackey. My source is trying to find out if the billionaire owners are backing Cohen’s efforts for regime change.” (doc-id 1111729 ) Later on, Burton forwarded information from the “Google source” of Cohen’s links in establishing Movements.org . The source added, “A site created to help online organization of groups and individuals to move democracy in stubborn nations. Funded through public-private partnerships.” Burton pointed out that the US State Department is the organization’s public sponsor.” (doc-id 1118344 ) Indeed, the State Department, partnering with a number of corporations, was the main sponsor for the 2008 inaugural Alliance of Youth Movements summit in New York City that subsequently established Movements.org. Hillary Clinton endorsed the organization and presented a video message during the second summit held in Mexico City a year later. On 11 February, Burton wrote to the secure email list that Cohen was still planning to head to Gaza. He added, “The dude is a loose can[n]on. GOOGLE is trying to stop his entry into Gaza now because the dude is like scorched earth. It’s unclear to GOOGLE if he’s driving without a license, but GOOGLE believes he’s on a specific mission of “regime change” on the part of leftist fools inside the WH who are using him for their agendas.” (doc-id 1113596 ) Throughout this day, the idea proposed by Burton, and seemingly felt by his Google contacts as well, of Cohen and the White House’s involvement in the uprisings was actively discussed among the analysts, especially in regards to who would be targeted next. (doc-id 1113965 ) By Monday, 14 February 2011, Burton shared intelligence with George Friedman, Stratfor’s founder, and Scott Stewart, vice-president of Stratfor’s tactical department, from his source in Google that Cohen was ordered not to go to Gaza. Burton’s Google source further stated, “Also, thinking I [the unnamed source] may be on the right track about him despite his denials [in reference to Cohen working for the White House/State Department].” When asked to clarify his sources on Cohen, Burton claimed that they were Marty Lev, Google’s director for security and safety, and Eric Schmidt, the current CEO of Google. (doc-id 398679 ) A week later, Burton forwarded an internal Google email obtained from a ‘senior Google executive’. This email was seemingly sent by Cohen to the senior Google executive to discuss Cohen’s planned trip in March. In it, Cohen wrote, “I wanted to follow-up and get a sense of your latest thinking on the proposed March trip to UAE, Azerbaijan, and Turkey. The purpose of this trip is to exclusively engage the Iranian community to better understand the challenges faced by Iranians as part of one of our Google Ideas groups on repressive societies. Here is what we are thinking: Drive to Azerbaijan/Iranian border and engage the Iranian communities closer to the border (this is important because we need the Azeri Iranian perspective).” After reading Cohen’s email, Stewart remarked, “Cohen might end up having an accident if he is not careful. This is not child’s play.” Burton responded, “GOOGLE is getting WH [White House] and State Dept. support and air cover. In reality, they are doing things the CIA cannot do. But, I agree with you. He’s going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose GOOGLE’s covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Gov’t can then disavow knowledge and GOOGLE is left holding the shit bag.” (doc-id 1121800 ) On 10 March 2011, Burton forwarded another message from his ‘senior Google executive’ source detailing how Cohen was requested not to travel on his proposed trip. The source explained that Google had concerns over Cohen’s “baggage” as a “US State Dept. policy maker, his research and publications on Muslim extremists and youth movements and his presence in Egypt just as the uprising started.”The source also stated that Cohen was recommended to “take a lower profile on this specific trip and let time pass before being visible and associated with people known by their states to be active in challenging repressive societies.” (doc-id 1164190 ) A subsequent message from Burton’s source on 22 March 2011 affirmed that Cohen “heeded the advice not to go to Turkey or UAE for those meetings.” (doc-id 1133861 ) The final email dealing with Cohen was on 30 March 2011. Here, Burton forwarded to the alpha (secure) email list a response by his source to Burton’s question of whether Cohen was playing any role in Libya at the time. The source stated, “Not that I’m aware of. He heeded the advice to avoid Turkey and UAE and didn’t go on that trip.” (doc-id 1160182 ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Google Ideas: Politicizing Technology* Certainly, there is more than meets the eye to Cohen and his actions; even his superiors in Google seem to think so. The belief, chiefly by Burton, that Cohen had seemingly played a role in fermenting the uprisings that toppled Zine el Abidine Ben Ali and Hosni Mubarak underplays, and at times entirely disregards, the ability and agency by local movements in Tunisia and Egypt. Nevertheless, Google Ideas, which Cohen directs, is a new animal. According to a report by the Financial Times published last July, Google Ideas seems to bond idealistic activist sensibilities with Google’s pursuit for continued global expansion - blurring the lines between business and political action. Schmidt and Cohen dub Google Ideas as a “think/do-tank” that aims to tackle political and diplomatic matters through the use of technology. The first public event for the think/do-tank, in partnership with the Council on Foreign Relations and the Tribeca Film Festival, was held last June in Dublin. It gathered around 80 ‘former’ extremists, including former Muslim radicals, neo-Nazis, US gang members, and others, in a “Summit Against Violent Extremism”. The announcement by Google declared that the summit’s aim is “to initiate a global conversation on how best to prevent young people from becoming radicalised and how to de-radicalise others” and that “the ideas generated at the Dublin summit will be included in a study to be published later in the year.” One spin off was the creation of the Against Violent Extremism group, apparently a network for those who attended the Dublin Summit. Beyond merely networking, the group also advertises certain projects that are in need of funding. Notably, much of the projects pertain to the Middle East, including an “Al-Awlaki Counter-Campaign” - Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen of Yemeni origin, was assassinated in September of last year by the US for his alleged al-Qaeda connections. But the Against Violent Extremism site does not seem to be presently active. The last update for projects in need of funding was made in September and the last announcement regarding the workings of the site was made in October. More recently, Foreign Policy reported in January that the Brookings Institute, one of the oldest and most influential think-tanks in Washington, DC, named Google Ideas as “the best new think tank established in the last 18 months.” Such accolades arguably suggests that Google Ideas is expected to be a major player in the near future. http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/stratforleaks-google-ideas-director-involved-%E2%80%98regime-change%E2%80%99 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From pranesh at cis-india.org Thu Mar 15 15:54:41 2012 From: pranesh at cis-india.org (Pranesh Prakash) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:24:41 +0530 Subject: [governance] ALAC's statement on "Global Public Interest" and IOC + Red Cross gTLD Reservation Message-ID: <4F624901.7010805@cis-india.org> http://goo.gl/UAZyR On Reserved Names for the Red Cross and IOC Added by Evan Leibovitch, last edited by Evan Leibovitch on Mar 14, 2012 ALAC STATEMENT ON THE RESERVATION OF OLYMPIC AND RED CROSS NAMES IN THE GTLD APPLICATION PROCEDURE: The ALAC notes with concern the recent activities of the ICANN Board, its staff, and the GNSO regarding the reservation of domain names related to the Olympic and Red Cross movements. We object to the poor precedents these activities set forward both on substance and on process: On substance, we see no substantial reason to afford to the Red Cross and the International Olympic Committee protections not available to other rights holders. Substantial objection procedures were put in place regarding the gTLD program, well capable of addressing all concerns about confusion and misuse. ICANN’s Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC), which has raised the concerns about these names, indeed has its own hard-won objection mechanisms in place. Moreover, there are many in the At-Large Community who believe specifically that specially entrenched protection of olympic-related names is against the global public interest. We note that many legitimate uses of the word “olympic” and its derivatives are used for airlines, cameras, restaurants, paint, and numerous businesses around the world with no connection to the Olympic athletic movement or the IOC. These businesses are not currently seen to be confusing with the olympic movement, and we believe that needless restriction on these names -- beyond what already exists -- is publicly harmful. On process, it is regrettable to see the domain naming policy (a hard-bargained consensus amongst many stakeholders) being overridden as a result of a bilateral engagement by the ICANN Board. We accept that the GAC, in advancing its concerns over these names, was performing its role according to its members’ wishes. However, the ICANN Board’s imposition of these wishes upon the community without prior consultation demonstrates numerous flaws and poor precedents: It is our understanding that the scope given the GNSO Drafting Team, in debating this matter, precluded it from rejecting outright the proposed changes because the Board had already forced the matter. The Drafting Team was left in a position of refining -- and indeed legitimizing -- a Board directive that many community members thought to be objectionable outright; The overriding of broad consensus-based policy based on a bilateral negotiation calls into question ICANN’s publicly expressed commitment to maintaining (and indeed strengthening) its “multi-stakeholder model”. How can ICANN's multi-stakeholder model claims be trusted when the community consensus can be so easily overridden due to perceived political expediency? The late date of this activity, changing the Applicant Guidebook so long after its “final” version was published, reduces public confidence and destabilizes the application process Why is this only about generic names? That is, why would “co.redcross” be subject to pre-restriction but “redcross.co” not? The uneven and unequal application of such a demand is the source of both instability and confusion. The debate on such policy should not be limited to the GNSO, since it is an issue affecting all domain names. We note many of our concerns about this process have been expressed in Kurt Pritz’s March 2 letter to the GNSO Drafting Team. We believe, though, that rather than simply requesting further details and refinement, staff's concerns call into question the value of the entire initiative. In view of the above, the ALAC specifically advises and requests the ICANN Board to reconsider its directions regarding the Red Cross and Olympic names as being ultimately against the global public interest. This matter should be reviewed with the purpose of giving the ICANN Board guidance on the global public interest related to making changes to previously-approved multi-stakeholder consensus. ALAC further advises the ICANN Board to leave the Applicant Guidebook unmodified in this regard . As the body mandated by ICANN to represent the interests of Internet end-users around the world, we believe that this initiative damages the credibility of ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model without providing substantial end-user benefit, but has the effect of creating new potential sources of public confusion and instability. -- Pranesh Prakash · Programme Manager · Centre for Internet and Society PGP: 0x1D5C5F07 · @pranesh_prakash · http://cis-india.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's more or less a month from now. I personally believe that more time should be focused on strategy and substantive contributions that will make IGF 2012 a success. regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org On 2012-03-15, at 5:05 PM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/manning-treatment-inhuman/ > > wolfgang > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Thu Mar 15 19:32:30 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:32:30 -0600 Subject: [governance] Bradley Manning In-Reply-To: References: <4F61A12C.8060909@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC9E5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <48ACC211-3AAB-438B-BCB3-5838728177BC@cafonso.ca> Why "instead"?? --c.a. sent from a dumbphone On 15/03/2012, at 15:42, Robert Guerra wrote: > Wolfgang, > > Instead of sharing news on and about Manning, i'd be more interested in you thoughts and those of others on this list what workshops might be of interest ahead of the April 15th deadline. > > It's more or less a month from now. > > I personally believe that more time should be focused on strategy and substantive contributions that will make IGF 2012 a success. > > regards > > Robert > -- > R. Guerra > Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 > Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom > Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > > On 2012-03-15, at 5:05 PM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > >> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/manning-treatment-inhuman/ >> >> wolfgang >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 19:55:24 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:55:24 +0500 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?StratforLeaks=3A_Google_Ideas_D?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?irector_Involved_in_=91Regime_Change=92?= In-Reply-To: <4F61A12C.8060909@gmail.com> References: <4F61A12C.8060909@gmail.com> Message-ID: There is another angle to this story though totally different, have a look at the following: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jodywestby/2012/03/14/social-media-companies-contribute-to-cybercrime/ All these firms do have more critical information on their service users than many other profiling agencies. Its not surprising that this may be happening and the general understanding across the masses in Pakistan is similar to the ones below but then again there has to be a mix of logic and reality. Best Fooo!!!! On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: > > StratforLeaks: Google Ideas Director Involved in ‘Regime Change’ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As the IGF is concerned with Internet procedures based on the law, the allegations of the United Nations special rapporteur on torture seem to be an important element to be discussed, especially in relation to concerns that all countries should be equally observing the content of UN Conventions and treaties. Norbert On 03/16/2012 06:32 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Why "instead"?? > > --c.a. > > sent from a dumbphone > > On 15/03/2012, at 15:42, Robert Guerra > wrote: > >> Wolfgang, >> >> Instead of sharing news on and about Manning, i'd be more interested >> in you thoughts and those of others on this list what workshops might >> be of interest ahead of the April 15th deadline. >> >> It's more or less a month from now. >> >> I personally believe that more time should be focused on strategy and >> substantive contributions that will make IGF 2012 a success. >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> -- >> R. Guerra >> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom >> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org >> >> On 2012-03-15, at 5:05 PM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: >> >>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/manning-treatment-inhuman/ >>> wolfgang >>> ____________________________________________________________ -- In April 2011, I started a new blog: ...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia http://www.thinking21.org/ continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia. Here are my latest postings: Myanmar’s Roadmap to Democracy (27.2.2012) http://www.thinking21.org/?p=800 The Freedom of Expression – China and Cambodia – and the Internet (4.3.2012) http://www.thinking21.org/?p=839 After the International Women’s Day 2012 (9.3.2012) http://www.thinking21.org/?p=862 If you want to receive these reports and comments regularly into your mailbox, you can, in the upper left corner of the website, "Enter your email address" into the box that says so, and then click on "Subscribe" - free of charge. Norbert Klein nhklein at gmx.net Phnom Penh / Cambodia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A bit of context explaining how the issue might be linked to the subject at hand - well, is quite helpful. Wikileaks and Manning well, bring up all sorts of issues related such as - transparency, due process, human rights and whistle blowing. If they are issues people want discussed at the IGF, then I suggest we strategize how they could be developed into workshop proposals. regards Robert R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org On 2012-03-15, at 9:20 PM, nhklein wrote: > Maybe the Subject Line with the name of an individual is distracting - what Wolfgang posted is about a statement by the United Nations special rapporteur on torture, saying that the treatment of a prisoner in the USA "was cruel, inhuman and degrading" - and it was in response to some alleged activities on the Internet. > > As the IGF is concerned with Internet procedures based on the law, the allegations of the United Nations special rapporteur on torture seem to be an important element to be discussed, especially in relation to concerns that all countries should be equally observing the content of UN Conventions and treaties. > > Norbert > > On 03/16/2012 06:32 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >> >> Why "instead"?? >> >> --c.a. >> >> sent from a dumbphone >> >> On 15/03/2012, at 15:42, Robert Guerra wrote: >> >>> Wolfgang, >>> >>> Instead of sharing news on and about Manning, i'd be more interested in you thoughts and those of others on this list what workshops might be of interest ahead of the April 15th deadline. >>> >>> It's more or less a month from now. >>> >>> I personally believe that more time should be focused on strategy and substantive contributions that will make IGF 2012 a success. >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Robert >>> -- >>> R. Guerra >>> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >>> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom >>> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org >>> >>> On 2012-03-15, at 5:05 PM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/manning-treatment-inhuman/ >>>> >>>> wolfgang >>>> ____________________________________________________________ > > -- > In April 2011, I started a new blog: > > ...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia > http://www.thinking21.org/ > > continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia. > Here are my latest postings: > > Myanmar’s Roadmap to Democracy (27.2.2012) > http://www.thinking21.org/?p=800 > > The Freedom of Expression – China and Cambodia – and the Internet (4.3.2012) > http://www.thinking21.org/?p=839 > > After the International Women’s Day 2012 (9.3.2012) > http://www.thinking21.org/?p=862 > > > If you want to receive these reports and comments regularly into your mailbox, you can, in the upper left corner of the website, "Enter your email address" into the box that says so, and then click on "Subscribe" - free of charge. > > > Norbert Klein > nhklein at gmx.net > Phnom Penh / Cambodia > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sat Mar 17 09:28:47 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:28:47 -0400 Subject: [governance] 2012 Cyber Dialogue forum - Conference Briefs now online Message-ID: Further to my earlier email, let me share with participants of this mailing list the - conference briefs - for the 2012 Cyber Dialogue, which will take place in Toronto March 18-19. I hope the previously posted conference "stewardship papers" as well as these four briefs are of interest. Look forward to any questions, comments and/or feedback you may have. regards Robert -- Senior Advisor, Citizen Lab Munk Centre for Global Affairs, University of Toronto Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Web: http://citizenlab.org Below are details : Conference Aim ---------------------- The aim of the annual Cyber Dialogue (presented by the Canada Centre for Global Security Studies at the Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto) is to convene an influential mix of global leaders from government, civil society, academia and private enterprise to participate in a series of facilitated public plenary conversations and working groups around cyberspace security and governance. The second annual Cyber Dialogue forum takes place March 18-19 2012 in Toronto, Canada. Building upon last year's successful dialogue - Securing the Cyber Commons? - this year's Cyber Dialogue will address the question: What is Stewardship in Cyberspace? Conference Briefs ------------------------- CYBER DIALOGUE 2012 BRIEFS Prepared by Camino Kavanagh with the support of Matthew Carrieri Camino Kavanagh is currently pursuing a PhD at Kings College London's Dept. of War Studies and is a non-resident fellow at University of Toronto's Canada Centre for Global Security Studies and the Citizen Lab. Her principal research focus is on power dynamics in (and in relation to) cyberspace. Camino is also a Fellow at NYU's Center on International Cooperation (CIC) where she focuses principally on transnational threats such as organized crime and trafficking. She has an MA in Contemporary Warfare and an MA in International Human Rights Law Matthew Carrieri is currently finishing his MA in Near Eastern Studies with business focus at NYU; and has a BA in Middle East Studies from McGill BRIEF 1: WITHER “RULES OF THE ROAD” FOR CYBERSPACE? http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012briefs/brief-1.pdf BRIEF 2: LIMITS OF DISSENT IN CYBERSPACE http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012briefs/brief-2.pdf BRIEF 3: THE WHO’S WHO OF POLICING IN CYBERSPACE http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012briefs/brief-3.pdf BRIEF 4: THINKING STRATEGICALLY ABOUT CYBER SECURITY http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012briefs/brief-4.pdf Conference Program ---------------------------- March 18-19, 2012 http://www.cyberdialogue.ca/agenda/ March 18th (Opening Session). -The opening plenary, which includes a discussion with a panel and audience will be archived and placed online. I will check later today if a live steam will be available on Sunday 14:30 – 15:15 EDT / UCT 18:30 / Tokyo 3:30 WELCOME AND OPENING PLENARY: What is Stewardship in Cyberspace? Ron Deibert (Director, Citizen Lab and Canada Centre for Global Security Studies) Cyberspace – the global domain of digital electronic telecommunications – is nearing a turning point. Pressure is building towards a “constitutional moment”. Major governments have begun to debate what should be the “rules of the road” for cyberspace, but agreement appears far off. A mixed transnational common pool resource that cuts across political jurisdictions and the public and private sectors, cyberspace has become the operating system for global communications and commerce almost by a series of accidents. Cyberspace functions, and arguably functions very well, in spite of no grand blueprint or central organizing structure. Yet the pressures around the existing system are growing, the demands for some kind of alternative design are mounting, armed forces are debating offensive operations in cyberspace and competing strategies are being developed rapidly that will impact on the future of cyberspace. Is there a role for “stewardship” in cyberspace? What does it mean to be a “steward” as a government, a government’s armed forces, a company, an NGO, a social movement, an engineer, a hacktivist, or a citizen? How should these actors behave in cyberspace? Do they have different roles as stewards? What should they do or not do? Where are the gaps? What is an appropriate balance? Do we need stewardship in cyberspace at all? And how does stewardship relate to strategy in cyberspace? Plenary Panel and Discussions Moderator: Misha Glenny Panelists: Evgeny Morozov, James Lewis, Marietje Schaake, Bob Boorstin, Sunil Abraham, Melissa Hathaway -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Sun Mar 18 22:26:30 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:26:30 -0500 Subject: [governance] Networked Authoritarianism and Social Media in Azerbaijan In-Reply-To: <9342ADB3-F31D-4B79-BE94-9D70E0DF91AB@privaterra.org> References: <9342ADB3-F31D-4B79-BE94-9D70E0DF91AB@privaterra.org> Message-ID: unfortunately, it is not really available. but thanks for the notification. avri On 14 Mar 2012, at 11:05, Robert Guerra wrote: > Katy Pearce just posted on twitter that her paper on Networked Authoritarianism & Social Media in Azerbaijan has just been published. > > Here's details - > > URL - http://is.gd/3DxyC8 > (nods @rmack, @pnhoward, @ethanz, @evgenymorozov) > > Authors: Katy E. Pearce, Sarah Kendzior > > Article first published online: 14 MAR 2012 > > The diffusion of digital media does not always have democratic consequences. This mixed-methods study examines how the government of Azerbaijan dissuaded Internet users from political activism. We examine how digital media were used for networked authoritarianism, a form of Internet control common in former Soviet states where manipulation over digitally mediated social networks is used more than outright censorship. Through a content analysis of 3 years of Azerbaijani media, a 2-year structural equation model of the relationship between Internet use and attitudes toward protest, and interviews with Azerbaijani online activists, we find that the government has successfully dissuaded frequent Internet users from supporting protest and average Internet users from using social media for political purposes. > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 11:21:43 2012 From: ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com (Narine Khachatryan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:51:43 +0430 Subject: [governance] Economist on abuses committed by Azerbaijan along way to hosting Eurovision Song Contest In-Reply-To: <8F861E88-50A4-4306-82B8-3B1809D5C0EE@privaterra.org> References: <8F861E88-50A4-4306-82B8-3B1809D5C0EE@privaterra.org> Message-ID: Dear all, Child International Network recently published the article below highlighting pre-Eurovision human rights violations in Azerbaijan. *Pre-Eurovision evictions* Human Rights Watch is calling on Azerbaijani authorities to halt the wrongful evictions of families in a neighbourhood in the capital Baku and the demolition of their homes ahead of the Eurovision song contest. The organisation further highlights that there have been no court orders validating expropriations and demolitions, as required by the country's constitution. In some cases heating, water and telephone services were cut in buildings that were still populated. Full story can be found here http://www.crin.org/resources/infodetail.asp?id=27666. On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: Thought i'd share the following tweet just posted online by the Executive > Director of Human Rights Watch, Ken Roth on Azerbaijan. > > > https://twitter.com/#!/KenRoth/statuses/175988951767724032 > Economist on abuses committed by #Azerbaijan along way to hosting > #Eurovision Song Contest. References @HRW report. http://econ.st/yaxkOS > > > > http://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2012/03/eurovision-song-contest > > The Eurovision Song Contest > Can Engelbert Humperdinck free Azerbaijan? > Mar 2nd 2012, 16:46 by G.E. | TBILISI > > > ENGELBERT HUMPERDINCK, the 75-year old chosen by the BBC to represent > Britain at the Eurovision song contest, is more famous for such hits as > “After the Lovin’” than for political campaigning. But some activists hope > that when he showcases his crooning in Baku in Azerbaijan on May 26th, the > event will be made memorable for another reason. With some 120m people > expected to tune in, they want to highlight the country’s deteriorating > human-rights record. > > [snipped] > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Narine Khachatryan Media Education Center Yerevan, Armenia http://www.safe.am/ http://www.mediaeducation.am/ http://www.immasin.am -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For full details of the recommendations, visit: http://www.crin.org/resources/infoDetail.asp?ID=27755&flag=report · Domestic violence and violence against women and girls · Early marriage · Trafficking · Ill-treatment of children in the justice system · Use of, and conditions in, juvenile detention (including the detention of children with adults), etc. -- Narine Khachatryan Media Education Center Yerevan, Armenia http://www.safe.am/ http://www.mediaeducation.am/ http://www.immasin.am -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From Elvana.THACI at coe.int Tue Mar 20 11:42:31 2012 From: Elvana.THACI at coe.int (THACI Elvana) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:42:31 +0000 Subject: [governance] Council of Europe adopts Internet governance strategy to protect human rights, rule of law and democracy online In-Reply-To: References: <8F861E88-50A4-4306-82B8-3B1809D5C0EE@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <2BC8C1F8EE620E4DBF566BCF5F804CE3145787C1@V-Linguistix02.key.coe.int> Dear list members, For your information, the Council of Europe Internet Governance Strategy 2012-2015, which was adopted by the Committee of Ministers on 14 March 2012, is available at this address: https://wcd.coe.int/ViewDoc.jsp?Ref=CM%282011%29175&Language=lanEnglish&Ver=final&BackColorInternet=C3C3C3&BackColorIntranet=EDB021&BackColorLogged=F5D383 Kind regards, Elvana Thaçi Information Society Division Information Society and Action Against Crime Directorate DG I - Human Rights and Rule of Law Council of Europe F-67075 Strasbourg Cedex Tel. + 33 (0) 3 90 21 56 98 Fax. + 33 (0) 3 88 41 27 05 E-mail: elvana.thaci at coe.int Internet:http://www.coe.int/t/informationsociety/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Tue Mar 20 12:24:39 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:54:39 +0530 Subject: [governance] Bradley Manning In-Reply-To: <48ACC211-3AAB-438B-BCB3-5838728177BC@cafonso.ca> References: <4F61A12C.8060909@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC9E5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <48ACC211-3AAB-438B-BCB3-5838728177BC@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <4F68AF47.2080401@itforchange.net> intrigues me as well! On Friday 16 March 2012 05:02 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Why "instead"?? intrigues me as well! > > --c.a. > > sent from a dumbphone > > On 15/03/2012, at 15:42, Robert Guerra > wrote: > >> Wolfgang, >> >> Instead of sharing news on and about Manning, i'd be more interested >> in you thoughts and those of others on this list what workshops might >> be of interest ahead of the April 15th deadline. >> >> It's more or less a month from now. >> >> I personally believe that more time should be focused on strategy and >> substantive contributions that will make IGF 2012 a success. >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> -- >> R. Guerra >> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom >> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org >> >> On 2012-03-15, at 5:05 PM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: >> >>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/manning-treatment-inhuman/ >>> wolfgang >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Tue Mar 20 12:39:24 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:39:24 +0100 Subject: [governance] ICANN/IOC/Red Cross References: Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA00@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> FYI http://www.circleid.com/posts/20120320_slippery_territory_ioc_and_red_cross_in_the_new_gtld_program/ Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lorena.jaume-palasi at gsi.uni-muenchen.de Tue Mar 20 20:05:26 2012 From: lorena.jaume-palasi at gsi.uni-muenchen.de (=?utf-8?B?TG9yZW5hIEphdW1lLVBhbGFzw60=?=) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:05:26 +0000 Subject: AW: [governance] ICANN/IOC/Red Cross In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA00@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA00@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <1564848873-1332288395-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1960963123-@b13.c15.bise7.blackberry> Lieber Wolfgang, kannst Du bitte kurz meine Terminvorschlaege und meine Frage zu Newsletter beantworten? Die Zeit draengt sehr und der Lenkungskreis bittet mich langsam um Entscheidungen und erste Produkte. LG, Lorena Von meinem drahtlosen BlackBerry®-Handheld gesendet -----Original Message----- From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" Sender: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:39:24 To: Reply-To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" Subject: [governance] ICANN/IOC/Red Cross FYI http://www.circleid.com/posts/20120320_slippery_territory_ioc_and_red_cross_in_the_new_gtld_program/ Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lorena.jaume-palasi at gsi.uni-muenchen.de Tue Mar 20 20:19:51 2012 From: lorena.jaume-palasi at gsi.uni-muenchen.de (=?utf-8?B?TG9yZW5hIEphdW1lLVBhbGFzw60=?=) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:19:51 +0000 Subject: AW: [governance] ICANN/IOC/Red Cross In-Reply-To: <1564848873-1332288395-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1960963123-@b13.c15.bise7.blackberry> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA00@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1564848873-1332288395-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1960963123-@b13.c15.bise7.blackberry> Message-ID: <1799608272-1332289189-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-509063011-@b13.c15.bise7.blackberry> Dear list, that was a private e-mail to Wolfgang. Please ignore it and accept my apologies. Cheers, Lorena Jaume-Palasi Von meinem drahtlosen BlackBerry®-Handheld gesendet -----Original Message----- From: "Lorena Jaume-Palasí" Lorena.Jaume-Palasi at gsi.uni-muenchen.de Sender: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:05:26 To: ; "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" Reply-To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "Lorena Jaume-Palasí" Lorena.Jaume-Palasi at gsi.uni-muenchen.de Subject: AW: [governance] ICANN/IOC/Red Cross Lieber Wolfgang, kannst Du bitte kurz meine Terminvorschlaege und meine Frage zu Newsletter beantworten? Die Zeit draengt sehr und der Lenkungskreis bittet mich langsam um Entscheidungen und erste Produkte. LG, Lorena Von meinem drahtlosen BlackBerry®-Handheld gesendet -----Original Message----- From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" Sender: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:39:24 To: Reply-To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" Subject: [governance] ICANN/IOC/Red Cross FYI http://www.circleid.com/posts/20120320_slippery_territory_ioc_and_red_cross_in_the_new_gtld_program/ Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 22:36:43 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:36:43 +0500 Subject: [governance] Bradley Manning In-Reply-To: <4F68AF47.2080401@itforchange.net> References: <4F61A12C.8060909@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC9E5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <48ACC211-3AAB-438B-BCB3-5838728177BC@cafonso.ca> <4F68AF47.2080401@itforchange.net> Message-ID: And other stakeholder groups not only submit a number of their own proposals but also encourage a number of joint and shared interest workshops and lobby for them when the finalizations happen in May so better get to work Igc! Fouad Bajwa sent using my mobile device On 20 Mar 2012, at 09:24 PM, parminder wrote: > intrigues me as well! > > On Friday 16 March 2012 05:02 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >> >> Why "instead"?? > > intrigues me as well! >> >> --c.a. >> >> sent from a dumbphone >> >> On 15/03/2012, at 15:42, Robert Guerra wrote: >> >>> Wolfgang, >>> >>> Instead of sharing news on and about Manning, i'd be more interested in you thoughts and those of others on this list what workshops might be of interest ahead of the April 15th deadline. >>> >>> It's more or less a month from now. >>> >>> I personally believe that more time should be focused on strategy and substantive contributions that will make IGF 2012 a success. >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Robert >>> -- >>> R. Guerra >>> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >>> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom >>> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org >>> >>> On 2012-03-15, at 5:05 PM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/manning-treatment-inhuman/ >>>> >>>> wolfgang >>>> ____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Tue Mar 20 23:06:40 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:06:40 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 Message-ID: A reminder that stakeholders wishing to hold workshops at the 2012 IGF Annual meeting in Baku are encouraged to submit proposals using the online workshop submission form. The deadline for submission is 12 April 2012 - 22 days from now http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 Workshops 2012 We are now accepting workshop proposals for the 2012 IGF Annual Meeting in Baku. The workshops will be held generally in parallel to the Main Sessions. Organizers of workshops are asked to present their proposals making use of the template posted below. Proposals should respect the organizational principles and criteria for the selection of workshops. The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) will assess the proposals. The final schedule will be determined in light of the number of proposals submitted. Organizational Principles • The guiding organizational principle for holding workshops is the multi-stakeholder approach. Geographical diversity is an equally relevant factor. • All proposals fulfilling the selection criteria and using the template will be posted on the IGF Web site. • Proposals should preferably be submitted in English. 12 April 2012 is set as the deadline for submitting proposals. • The rooms reserved for workshops and all equipment, including a screen and a PC or laptop for projections and a projector (XGA/SVGA Data), will be available free of charge. Details related to the logistics will be made available in due course. • There will be no interpretation provided for workshops. If interpretation is desired the workshop organizers are free to make their own arrangements in coordination with the IGF Secretariat. The organizers will be responsible for all associated costs. Content and format • They are two general workshop types: o Feeder workshops: will focus on the specific issues relevant to the Baku meeting themes and will act as leaders to the relevant main sessions. As was done in previous years in the relevant main sessions, the moderators of these sessions will call on the feeder workshop rapporteurs to relate the viewpoints expressed in the workshops. Each feeder workshop will be asked to assign a rapporteur whose role will include attending the relevant main session, giving a brief overview of the session's discussions and take part in a one hour round table session that will immediately proceed the main session on that topic. They should also be available to act as a resource to the moderators of the relevant main session. To the extent possible participants from the feeder workshops are also encouraged to attend the main sessions related to the feeder workshops in order to broaden the discussions on the sub-themes of the sessions. o Other workshops: Workshops on other topics of relevance to Internet Governance. (More details will be available in the draft programme paper.) • Workshops dealing with topics that are addressed in the main meeting will not be scheduled at the same time as the main meeting. • Workshops should explore a theme from different angles and different stakeholders' perspectives. Pure advocacy workshops will not be considered. • All workshops will be Webcast and have realtime transcription. • Workshops should respect the general format of meetings and should be structured to be interactive, allowing a large portion of their time for open discussion and interaction with meeting attendees, such as a Q&A session. They could include keynote presentations, moderated panels and discussions both from the floor and from remote participants. Workshops should be designed with the format that is most appropriate to the particular topic under discussion. Selection criteria • Relevance to the main themes and sub-themes. Priority will be given to proposals related to the main themes. • Demonstratively proposed or organized following the multi-stakeholder principle (e.g. at least three relevant stakeholder groups being represented in the organization of the workshop). • Capacity to improve understanding of the IGF themes and topics. • Proven experience, expertise and capacity to manage the staging of the workshop, including the raising of funds necessary to do so. • Timeliness, completeness and adherence to deadlines. • The provision of background papers. • Developing country support. • Gender balance. • Balance of speakers to participant discussion in the design of the workshop; that is, the degree of interaction planned. • Youth participation. • Suitability for remote participation, for example linkages to a hub event. • A name of a remote moderator is also required for each workshop. Template for submitting proposals An online form will be made available shortly for the submission of workshop proposals containing the following questions: Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall under? Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF workshop before? Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to various stakeholder groups.(Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Proposals should be between 200 - 1000 words. Reporting The organizers will be asked to prepare a short summary report of their workshop after the IGF annual meeting. A template for the report will be made available. 2012 Main sub theme questions http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/936-main-themes-questions The following are the main session questions proposed by the MAG: Emerging Issues Questions Question 1: What are the implications of the use of new technical and political instruments on the free flow of information, access to information, and with respect for human rights? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:Access to content, new models, common challenges for old and new media
Low cost mobile access to the Internet
Technical measures and use of intermediaries as instruments of law enforcement and intermediary safe harbors Question 2: What are acceptable and proportionate measures that offer Intellectual Property protection, yet allow for and respect individual users’ freedom to express themselves, to access and share content/culture, and to innovate and create? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:

Measures to protect intellectual property in balance with incentives for creativity and innovation
Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television
Legislative issues
Creativity and human rights
Innovation on the Internet
The networked individual and expanded power of freedom Question 3: In what ways are new opportunities and challenges being created as the new Internet services and traditional media (such a broadcast TV and radio) are accessed through the ‘same screen’? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:

Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television
User generated content: reliability and responsibility
Low cost mobile access to the internet Question 4: To what extent do Internet based services offer new and radically different opportunities to help families, social groups, communities and broader structures in society organize and re-organize themselves when challenged by natural disaster or strife? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of;

Internet and traditional media for disaster recovery and management
Internet Governance for Disaster Reduction and Response – Best practice and possible collaboration framework Managing Critical Internet Resources Questions Question 1: What is the role and importance of IXPs in localizing content, including to ensure easier connectivity in cases of disasters? Question 2: How can IG policy choices ensure sustainability during natural disasters and recovery/relief efforts? Question 3: What IG choices, best practices and technical and policy challenges impact the migration of resources starting to run over IP, migration of resources? Question 4: What policy dialogues in international forums could impact these migrations? For example, what, if any, implications are there from the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) and its review of the International Telecommunications Regulations? What changes in this binding set of Treaty-level regulations could impact the future development of the Internet? Question 5: What new developments pose specific new policy and technical challenges?

Introduction of new gTLDs,
IPv4 and IPv6: Emerging IPv4 markets, and related governance issues relevant to market ideas/realties,
Emergence of smart grids – what are best practices to enable an interconnected world? Question 6: With respect to multistakeholder accountability mechanisms, such as the AOC at ICANN, what are the results of such efforts, and what are the consequences for other CIR organizations?

Questions for Feeder Workshops:

What are the effects of jurisdiction and territoriality on the ongoing discussions about critical internet resource coordination?
What is the relationship of the multi-stakeholder accountability mechanisms and the overall goal of enhanced cooperation? Security, Openness and Privacy Questions Question 1: What impact can security and governance issues have on the Internet and human rights? Question 2: Freedom of expression and free flow of information: how do legal framework, regulations, and principles impact this?

What risks can Internet fragmentation pose to security, privacy and openness?
What impact does cloud computing have on concerns over cybersecurity and cybercrime? Question 3: What risks do law enforcement, information suppression and surveillance have on security, privacy and openness and how can public and private sector cooperate to conform and observe human rights? Question 4: What measures can be taken to ensure freedom of expression, access to knowledge and privacy, including for children? What are challenges to protect freedom of expression online and what measures can be taken to better empower citizen’s access to information and participation in digital age?
“Net Etiquette” and the roles and responsibilities of users as they relate to openness, privacy security? Question 5: What policies and practices that can assist in making the Internet an effective multistakeholder model to discuss national & regional issues and what best practices developing countries can benefit from. Access and Diversity Questions Question 1: What are the policy challenges around free flow of information, freedom of expression and human rights and the Internet as they relate to access? Question 2: What are the legal policy and regulatory choices including enabling environments that foster infrastructure investment, particularly for developing countries? Question 3: How is the increased demand for more bandwidth, lower costs of Internet access and revenue shifts affecting investment in broadband infrastructure and access networks? Question 4: What challenges do filtering, blocking and the diversity of national legal frameworks more generally pose to ensuring access and diversity? Question 5: Innovation and opportunities in spectrum technology and allocation---implications for access including mobile? Question 6: How can women be empowered in all dimensions of their life through access to the Internet and information? Question 7: How do language barriers impact access to the Internet? Question 8: What opportunities and challenges are presented by multilingualism? Question 9: Mobile access: what it takes to create opportunities for entrepreneurs, youth and developing country stakeholders? Internet Governance for Development Questions IG4D Thematic Cluster 1 "Pending Expansion of the Top Level Domain Space" Question 1:How do various actors in the developing world--governments, industry groupings, the technical community, civil society-perceive the relative costs and benefits of expanding the domain name space; Are there any issues on which greater clarification and mutual understanding would be helpful? Question 2: What kinds of support may be required to help communities, NGOs and businesses from the developing world to participate in the gTLD process? How do we we see the structure of the global market for registry and registrar services evolving in the years ahead?" IG4D Thematic Cluster 2 "Enabling Environment" Question 1: What does it take to attract investment in infrastructure and encourage innovation and growth of ICT services, including mobile technology and how can these technologies best be employed to address development challenges? Question 2: What does it take in terms of IG policy, legal and regulatory approaches? What are the challenges to and opportunities for participation of stakeholders from developing countries with a special focus on increasing participation by youth and women participation in IG from Least Developed Countries? IG4D Thematic Cluster 3 - "Infrastructure" Question 1: What are the key concerns regarding Internet infrastructure from developing countries' experiences and how can new technologies and the Global Internet Governance mechanisms address limitations, offer opportunities and enable development? Taking Stock and the Way Forward In the past year there has been a spate of declarations by various governments and intergovernmental groups that proposed guiding governance principles for various aspects of the Internet's development and use. Examples include, inter alia, the revised ITRs (ITU); the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (India); the International Code of Conduct for Information Security (China, Russia, Tajikistan Uzbekistan); 15 principles on policy making to be transferred into "guidelines" (OECD); the Internet Governance Declaration's 10 principles (CoE); the Deauville Declaration's 6 principles(Group of 8); the Tbilisi Declaration (OSCE), the Cybersecurity Principles (NATO); the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee 10 Principles, and the Draft Code of Ethics for the Information Society (UNESCO). Main Question: To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on guiding principles? Question 1: How are the rules for the Internet set? Question 2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? Question 3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through discussions successive IGFs. Question 4: To what extent do these principles raise distinctive implications and relevance to the world's population? Question 5: What are the prospects for the various countries embracing and implementing such principles or such harmonization of principles? -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From aizu at anr.org Wed Mar 21 02:42:51 2012 From: aizu at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:42:51 +0900 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you very much Robert for sharing this reminder. Are there IGC members who want to organize workshops with IGC as main organizer? I think we should try again to bring the important issues on the table and hope that be shared with other IGC members before submitting. izumi 2012/3/21 Robert Guerra : > A reminder that stakeholders wishing to hold workshops at the 2012 IGF Annual meeting in Baku are encouraged to submit proposals using the online workshop submission form. The deadline for submission is 12 April 2012 - 22 days from now > > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 > > Workshops 2012 > > We are now accepting workshop proposals for the 2012 IGF Annual Meeting in Baku. The workshops will be held generally in parallel to the Main Sessions. Organizers of workshops are asked to present their proposals making use of the template posted below. Proposals should respect the organizational principles and criteria for the selection of workshops. The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) will assess the proposals. The final schedule will be determined in light of the number of proposals submitted. > > Organizational Principles > > • The guiding organizational principle for holding workshops is the multi-stakeholder approach. Geographical diversity is an equally relevant factor. > > • All proposals fulfilling the selection criteria and using the template will be posted on the IGF Web site. > > • Proposals should preferably be submitted in English. 12 April 2012 is set as the deadline for submitting proposals. > > • The rooms reserved for workshops and all equipment, including a screen and a PC or laptop for projections and a projector (XGA/SVGA Data), will be available free of charge. Details related to the logistics will be made available in due course. > > • There will be no interpretation provided for workshops. If interpretation is desired the workshop organizers are free to make their own arrangements in coordination with the IGF Secretariat. The organizers will be responsible for all associated costs. > > Content and format > > • They are two general workshop types: > > o Feeder workshops: will focus on the specific issues relevant to the Baku meeting themes and will act as leaders to the relevant main sessions. As was done in previous years in the relevant main sessions, the moderators of these sessions will call on the feeder workshop rapporteurs to relate the viewpoints expressed in the workshops. Each feeder workshop will be asked to assign a rapporteur whose role will include attending the relevant main session, giving a brief overview of the session's discussions and take part in a one hour round table session that will immediately proceed the main session on that topic. They should also be available to act as a resource to the moderators of the relevant main session. To the extent possible participants from the feeder workshops are also encouraged to attend the main sessions related to the feeder workshops in order to broaden the discussions on the sub-themes of the sessions. > > o Other workshops: Workshops on other topics of relevance to Internet Governance. (More details will be available in the draft programme paper.) > > • Workshops dealing with topics that are addressed in the main meeting will not be scheduled at the same time as the main meeting. > > • Workshops should explore a theme from different angles and different stakeholders' perspectives. Pure advocacy workshops will not be considered. > > • All workshops will be Webcast and have realtime transcription. > > • Workshops should respect the general format of meetings and should be structured to be interactive, allowing a large portion of their time for open discussion and interaction with meeting attendees, such as a Q&A session. They could include keynote presentations, moderated panels and discussions both from the floor and from remote participants. Workshops should be designed with the format that is most appropriate to the particular topic under discussion. > > Selection criteria > > • Relevance to the main themes and sub-themes. Priority will be given to proposals related to the main themes. > > • Demonstratively proposed or organized following the multi-stakeholder principle (e.g. at least three relevant stakeholder groups being represented in the organization of the workshop). > > • Capacity to improve understanding of the IGF themes and topics. > > • Proven experience, expertise and capacity to manage the staging of the workshop, including the raising of funds necessary to do so. > > • Timeliness, completeness and adherence to deadlines. > > • The provision of background papers. > > • Developing country support. > > • Gender balance. > > • Balance of speakers to participant discussion in the design of the workshop; that is, the degree of interaction planned. > > • Youth participation. > > • Suitability for remote participation, for example linkages to a hub event. > > • A name of a remote moderator is also required for each workshop. > > Template for submitting proposals > > An online form will be made available shortly for the submission of workshop proposals containing the following questions: > > Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. > > Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. > > Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall under? > > Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? > > Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF workshop before? > > Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): > > Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) > > Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. > > Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to various stakeholder groups.(Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) > > Proposals should be between 200 - 1000 words. > > Reporting > > The organizers will be asked to prepare a short summary report of their workshop after the IGF annual meeting. A template for the report will be made available. > > > 2012 Main sub theme questions > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/936-main-themes-questions > > > The following are the main session questions proposed by the MAG: > > Emerging Issues Questions > > Question 1: What are the implications of the use of new technical and political instruments on the  free flow of information, access to information, and with respect for human rights? > > Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:Access to content, new models, common challenges for old and new media
Low cost mobile access to the Internet
Technical measures and use of intermediaries as instruments of law enforcement and intermediary safe harbors > > Question 2: What are acceptable and proportionate measures that offer Intellectual Property protection, yet allow for and respect individual users’ freedom to express themselves, to access and share content/culture, and to innovate and create? > > Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:

Measures to protect intellectual property in balance with incentives for creativity and innovation
Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television
Legislative issues
Creativity and human rights
Innovation on the Internet
The networked individual and expanded power of freedom > > Question 3: In what ways are new opportunities and challenges being created as the new Internet services and traditional media (such a broadcast TV and radio) are accessed through the ‘same screen’? > > Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:

Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television
User generated content: reliability and responsibility
Low cost mobile access to the internet > > Question 4: To what extent do Internet based services offer new and radically different opportunities to help families, social groups, communities and broader structures in society organize and re-organize themselves when challenged by natural disaster or strife? > > Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of;

Internet and traditional media for disaster recovery and management
Internet Governance for Disaster Reduction and Response – Best practice and possible collaboration framework > > Managing Critical Internet Resources Questions > > Question 1: What is the role and importance of IXPs in localizing content, including to ensure easier connectivity in cases of disasters? > > Question 2: How can IG policy choices ensure sustainability during natural disasters and recovery/relief efforts? > > Question 3: What IG choices, best practices and technical and policy challenges impact the migration of resources starting to run over IP, migration of resources? > > Question 4: What policy dialogues in international forums could impact these migrations? For example, what, if any, implications are there from the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) and its review of the International Telecommunications Regulations? What changes in this binding set of Treaty-level regulations could impact the future development of the Internet? > > Question 5: What new developments pose specific new policy and technical challenges?

Introduction of new gTLDs,
IPv4 and IPv6: Emerging IPv4 markets, and related governance issues relevant to market ideas/realties,
Emergence of smart grids – what are best practices to enable an interconnected world? > > Question 6: With respect to multistakeholder accountability mechanisms, such as the AOC at ICANN, what are the results of such efforts, and what are the consequences for other CIR organizations?

Questions for Feeder Workshops:

What are the effects of jurisdiction and territoriality on the ongoing discussions about critical internet resource coordination?
What is the relationship of the multi-stakeholder accountability mechanisms and the overall goal of enhanced cooperation? > > Security, Openness and Privacy Questions > > Question 1: What impact can security and governance issues have on the Internet and human rights? > > Question 2: Freedom of expression and free flow of information: how do legal framework, regulations, and principles impact this?

What risks can Internet fragmentation pose to security, privacy and openness?
What impact does cloud computing have on concerns over cybersecurity and cybercrime? > > Question 3: What risks do law enforcement, information suppression and surveillance have on security, privacy and openness and how can public and private sector cooperate to conform and observe human rights? > > Question 4: What measures can be taken to ensure freedom of expression, access to knowledge and privacy, including for children? What are challenges to protect freedom of expression online and what measures can be taken to better empower citizen’s access to information and participation in digital age?
“Net Etiquette” and the roles and responsibilities of users as they relate to openness, privacy security? > > Question 5: What policies and practices that can assist in making the Internet an effective multistakeholder model to discuss national & regional issues and what best practices developing countries can benefit from. > > Access and Diversity Questions > > Question 1: What are the policy challenges around free flow of information, freedom of expression and human rights and the Internet as they relate to access? > > Question 2: What are the legal policy and regulatory choices including enabling environments that foster infrastructure investment, particularly for developing countries? > > Question 3: How is the increased demand for more bandwidth, lower costs of Internet access and revenue shifts affecting investment in broadband infrastructure and access networks? > > Question 4: What challenges do filtering, blocking and the diversity of national legal frameworks more generally pose to ensuring access and diversity? > > Question 5: Innovation and opportunities in spectrum technology and allocation---implications for access including mobile? > > Question 6: How can women be empowered in all dimensions of their life through access to the Internet and information? > > Question 7: How do language barriers impact access to the Internet? > > Question 8: What opportunities and challenges are presented by multilingualism? > > Question 9: Mobile access: what it takes to create opportunities for entrepreneurs, youth and developing country stakeholders? > > Internet Governance for Development Questions > > IG4D Thematic Cluster 1 "Pending Expansion of the Top Level Domain Space" > > Question 1:How do various actors in the developing world--governments, industry groupings, the technical community, civil society-perceive the relative costs and benefits of expanding the domain name space; Are there any issues on which greater clarification and mutual understanding would be helpful? > > Question 2: What kinds of support may be required to help communities, NGOs and businesses from the developing world  to participate in the gTLD process? How do we we see the structure of the global market for registry and registrar services evolving in the years ahead?" > > > IG4D   Thematic Cluster 2 "Enabling Environment" > > > Question 1: What does it take to attract investment in infrastructure and encourage innovation and growth of ICT services, including mobile technology and how can these technologies best be employed to address development challenges? > > Question 2: What does it take in terms of IG policy, legal and regulatory approaches? What are the challenges to and opportunities for participation of stakeholders from developing countries with a special focus on increasing participation by youth and women participation in IG from Least Developed Countries? > > IG4D Thematic Cluster 3 - "Infrastructure" > > Question 1: What are the key concerns regarding Internet infrastructure from developing countries' experiences and how can new technologies and the Global Internet Governance mechanisms address limitations, offer opportunities and enable development? > > Taking Stock and the Way Forward > > In the past year there has been a spate of declarations by various governments and intergovernmental groups that proposed guiding governance principles for various aspects of the Internet's development and use.  Examples include, inter alia, the revised ITRs (ITU); the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (India); the International Code of Conduct for Information Security (China, Russia, Tajikistan  Uzbekistan); 15 principles on policy making to be transferred into "guidelines" (OECD); the Internet Governance Declaration's 10 principles (CoE); the Deauville Declaration's 6 principles(Group of 8); the Tbilisi Declaration (OSCE), the Cybersecurity Principles (NATO); the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee 10 Principles, and the Draft Code of Ethics for the Information Society (UNESCO). > > Main Question: > > To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on guiding principles? > > Question 1: How are the rules for the Internet set? > > Question 2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? > > Question 3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through discussions successive IGFs. > > Question 4: To what extent do these principles raise distinctive implications and relevance to the world's population? > > Question 5: What are the prospects for the various countries embracing and implementing such principles or such harmonization of principles? > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *            << Writing the Future of the History >>                                 www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at ella.com Wed Mar 21 12:18:13 2012 From: avri at ella.com (Avri Doria) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:18:13 -0500 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 21 Mar 2012, at 01:42, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Are there IGC members who want to organize workshops with > IGC as main organizer? I think we should try again to bring the > important issues on the table and hope that be shared with > other IGC members before submitting. Using the Etherpad we have, I have created: http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/IGF_12_Workshop_Proposal_A It is as of yet empty. Except for the questions that must be answered. Anyone want to take a go at creating a first proposal. http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/IGF_12_Workshop_Proposal_A of course anyone else can go to http://igcaucus.org:9001 and start another one, especially if they have a real idea. cheers avri BTW, I read of an experiment being held in the IETF this time for the use of etherpads for taking minutes/notes on a meeting - allowing several people to add stuff at the same time. It will be interesting to see how well it works. And it might be a good way for us to take notes at meetings were some at present some are remote and no one catches it all. avri -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Wed Mar 21 14:12:27 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:12:27 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> Avri, Ether and Pirate pads were used during the last two IGFs to help the Freedom House NGO delegation create and develop statements during the meeting. It worked out quite well. Glad you and others are starting to use it as well. It is a nice substitute for Google Docs Robert > > > BTW, I read of an experiment being held in the IETF this time for the use of etherpads for taking minutes/notes on a meeting - allowing several people to add stuff at the same time. It will be interesting to see how well it works. And it might be a good way for us to take notes at meetings were some at present some are remote and no one catches it all. > > > avri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at ella.com Wed Mar 21 15:34:13 2012 From: avri at ella.com (Avri Doria) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:34:13 -0500 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> Hi, Thanks for the words of encouragements Again, goes to Jeremy who set up the software. I only get credit for nagging about it. I do hope people start to use them. I have been using them all over the place, but thought it was important that the IGC, and IG civil society in general, have a place to store our etherpad docs that was controlled by the IGC. I now hope people start using them. Them have been up for a few months already, this is just the first time I have used one for IGC purposes. avri On 21 Mar 2012, at 13:12, Robert Guerra wrote: > Avri, > > Ether and Pirate pads were used during the last two IGFs to help the Freedom House NGO delegation create and develop statements during the meeting. It worked out quite well. > > Glad you and others are starting to use it as well. It is a nice substitute for Google Docs > > Robert > > >> >> >> BTW, I read of an experiment being held in the IETF this time for the use of etherpads for taking minutes/notes on a meeting - allowing several people to add stuff at the same time. It will be interesting to see how well it works. And it might be a good way for us to take notes at meetings were some at present some are remote and no one catches it all. >> >> >> avri > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ecology2001 at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 14:34:17 2012 From: ecology2001 at gmail.com (Robert Pollard) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:34:17 -0400 Subject: [governance] March 23: Last-minute hidden "Public Hearing" on .nyc tld In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *Public hearing on contract awarding nyc to Neustar* *Friday, March 23, 2012* commencing at 2:00 P.M. DoITT, 2 MetroTech Center 4th Floor, Brooklyn NY 11209 Friends I just became aware of a public hearing tomorrow - announced two days ago in the New York City Record (attached) - at DoITT, MetroTech Center on awarding nyc to Neustar so that an application could be submitted in time for the April 12 ICANN deadline The lack of any prior public consultation, and the virtually hidden, late notice of Friday's hearing is the antithesis of an Open NYC. Btw, other than the less-than informative notice in the City Recrd, you can only find more information by going to the DoITT's office - 75 Park Place, 9th Floor, New York, NY 10007, tel 1.212.788.6600 - and even then, according to Tom Lowenhaupt who was there this morning, you may encounter resistance to looking at - let alone copying - any additional information about the contract If anyone can make it to tomorrow's hearing an/or publicize it, that would be great. Meanwhile, I posted the following on Google+. Please re-share it, +1 it, tweet it, etc In peace Robert https://plus.google.com/u/0/106632164238171300064/posts/YeKFhujdbMz *March 23: Last-minute hidden "Public Hearing" on .nyc top-level domain* #dotnyc #opengov #AskMike #nyc *Broad-based consultation essential for .nyc* Mike Bloomberg: The ''.nyc'' top-level domain is far too important to be relegated to a virtually hidden "Public Hearing" at 2pm this Friday, held with no access to any of the details of the contract or of the governance of .nyc and with no prior broad-based consultation - e.g. such as was held for PlaNYC, supplemented by well-designed and well-publicized online consultation & participation opportunities. If .nyc is to serve the needs of the New York city community, it is essential that the contract not be awarded to Neustar, and that the application for .nyc be postponed until the necessary public consultation takes place and not submitted until the next round of tld applications. *Barely visible late notice* However, with ICANN's April 12 deadline for applications for new tlds rapidly approaching, buried at the bottom of page 676 of the March 20 NYC City Record is a ''Late Notice'' on "Agency Public Hearings on Contract Awards'' on March 23 for a Public Hearing on granting *Neustar* the "right to apply for and, and if obtained, operate, administer, manage and market nyc" *Non-disclosure of the significance of the contract* The late notice doesn't even mention what ''nyc'' refers to - namely the .nyc top-level domain - potentially immensely valuable virtual "real estate" - that could serve as a catalyst - in conjunction with initiatives such as the Road Map for a Digital City and PlaNYC - in New York City becoming a pioneer in development of a 21st century smart city that supports promotes the remarkable opportunities that Web 2.0 offers for strengthening civic engagement, community organizations, schools, small businesses and more. *Smarter, Greener, Climate-Friendly NYC* .nyc could also play a key role in supporting NYC's laudable Climate Change activities by promoting the city's transition to to a smarter, greener, climate-friendly, virtually carbon-free, digital knowledge-based platform that in conjunction with a commitment to universal broadband access, can provide invaluable economic development and educational opportunities while helping New Yorkers find was to save time, money and energy while reducing our - and the city's - carbon footprints as well as helping to reduce traffic congestion. *Neighborhood domains* Thomas Lowenhaupt has been for years advocating the establishment of .nyc along with reserving domains for NYC communities - i.e. Corona.nyc would be reserved to the Corona neighborhood in Queens and not available as an advertising platform for a beer of the same name. Provisions would need to be established to ensure that community domains would be governed by guidelines for openness and inclusion for community organizations, businesses, schools and residents. *No participation if you are Deaf* Btw, if anyone needs Sign Language interpretation for the "Public Hearing", it seems you are out of luck; you have to request this no later than seven days before the hearing, but the notice was not posted until three days before Friday's hearing. Meanwhile, here is the full text of the notice for the Public Hearing (with CAPS replaced by *bold*): -- *Late Notice* * * *Agency Public Hearings on Contract Awards* *Note*: Individuals requesting Sign Language Interpreters should contact the Mayor’s Office of Contract Services, Public Hearings Unit, 253, Broadway, 9th Floor, New York, N.Y. 10007, (212) 788-7490, no later than *Seven (7) business days prior to the Public Hearing*. TDD users should call Verizon relay services. __ *Information Technology and Telecommunications Public Hearing* Notice is hereby given that a Contract Public Hearing will be held on Friday, March 23, 2012 at DoITT, 2 MetroTech Center, 4th Floor, Brooklyn NY 11209, commencing at 2:00 P.M. on the following: In the matter of a proposed contract between the Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications and Neustar located at 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling, VA 20166, to apply for, and if obtained, operate, administer, manage and market nyc. The term of the contract shall be for five (5) years with two (2) five (5) year renewal options at the City’s discretion. The contract is a Revenue contract, PIN: 85812P0001. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 16:33:06 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 01:33:06 +0500 Subject: [governance] What keeps cybercrime in the world moving Message-ID: I just caught this piece off slashdot and it shows something that we have heard a lot about in the past within the technology guru community that half of the world's malicious software is made on purpose to keep the world going for many others. An important aspect here is that this process is led as a profession and business....sadly! Sparrowvsrevolution writes "Forbes profiles Vupen, a French security firm that openly sells secret software exploits to spies and government agencies. Its customers pay a $100,000 annual fee simply for the privilege of paying extra fees for the exploits that Vupen's hackers develop, which the company says can penetrate every major browser, as well as other targets like iOS, Android, Adobe Reader and Microsoft Word. Those individual fees often cost much more than that six-figure subscription, and Vupen sells them non-exclusively to play its customers off each other in an espionage arms race. The company's CEO, Chaouki Bekrar, says Vupen only sells to NATO governments and 'NATO partners' but he admits 'if you sell weapons to someone, there's no way to ensure that they won't sell to another agency.'" Source: http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/03/21/1855202/meet-the-hackers-who-get-rich-selling-spies-zero-day-exploits -- Regards. -------------------------- Foo -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gpaque at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 16:40:03 2012 From: gpaque at gmail.com (Ginger Paque) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:10:03 -0430 Subject: [governance] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ISOC_Next_Generation_Leaders_eLearn?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ing_programme_=93Shaping_the_Internet_=96_History_and_Fu?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?tures=94_=28English=2C_French_and_Spanish=29_Application?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?s_now_open_-?= Message-ID: ================================================================================= VERSION FRANCAISE CI-DESSOUS // VERSIÓN ESPAÑOLA ABAJO // ================================================================================= ** *Applications now open - Next Generation Leaders eLearning programme “Shaping the Internet – History and Futures” (English, French and Spanish)* Applications are now open for the Internet Society’s Next Generation Leaders (NGL) eLearning programme “Shaping the Internet – History and Futures.” English: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning French: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr Spanish: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es Internet Society is pleased to call for applications from talented individuals seeking to join the new generation of Internet leaders, who will address the critical technology, policy, business, and education challenges that lie ahead. Following the success of last year’s programme, in 2012 the Internet Society is offering two classes in English, one in French, and one in Spanish. All classes will start the week of 21 May 2012. The course, “Shaping the Internet – History and Futures”, is delivered by the DiploFoundation through their eLearning platform and learning methodology and features weekly online discussions of the course materials, moderated by a tutor and an expert facilitator. The NGL programme is designed to advance the careers of individuals who have the potential to become local, regional, and international leaders within the Internet technology, policy, and governance communities. The curriculum empowers participants to share their particular expertise with colleagues while acquiring knowledge in areas outside of their specialties. Places in the eLearning course are strictly limited, so all applications will be subject to a thorough selection process. *The deadline for applications is 10 April 2012.* * * *The Programme* The programme offers 25 places in each class for professionals from diverse stakeholder backgrounds in the fields of Internet technology, governance, and policy. All courses are open to individuals from around the world. The programme will be conducted entirely online. The programme includes four thematic parts, which take place over six months during 2012 (May to October, with an exam at the conclusion of the course): § The History of the Internet § Technical Background - Internet Standards and Technology § Internet Governance and Policy § Emerging issues – Studies in Internet Policies, Processes and Diplomacy Learning activities take place in an online classroom and include analysis of course materials, interactive group discussions using a variety of communication tools, assignments, and exams. Successful participants will receive a certificate of completion of the programme. *Languages* Course materials and moderated online discussions for each course are in English, French, and Spanish respectively. *Target Audience* The project is designed for Internet Society members from academia, the public sector, technology industries, and civil society who are committed to the ongoing expansion of an open, sustainable Internet. Applications from the following categories of individuals from both developed and developing countries are encouraged: § officials in governmental ministries and departments dealing with ICT-related issues (for example, telecommunications, culture, education, foreign affairs, justice) § officials in regulatory authorities or institutions dealing with Information Society, Internet, and ICT-related issues § postgraduate students and researchers (for example, telecommunications, electrical engineering, law, economics, development studies, sociology) § engineers in the Internet field § civil society activists in the Internet field § journalists covering Internet-related issues § business people in the Internet field (for example, those managing ISPs or involved in software development). *Timeline* § 22 March: 2012 Call for Applications begins § 10 April: 2012 Call for Applications ends § 10, 11 May: Selection Results released § 21 May: Online classes commence *Requirements* Applicants are required to have: § met the age requirement (20-40 years old) § a basic awareness of, and interest in, Internet-related issues § knowledge and experience of the multi-stakeholder approach in international affairs § a professional background and relevant work or academic experience in the Internet field § member staus in ISOC http://www.internetsociety.org/get-involved/join-community § fluency in English § good writing skills, ability to summarize information, and focus on details § regular access to the Internet (dial-up connection is sufficient) § minimum of 8 hours commitment per week during each thematic part of the online course (this is perhaps the single most important requirement and should be evaluated seriously by any potential applicant) § readiness to participate in online consultations (once a week at specified times) *Deadline for Applications* The deadline for applications is 10 April 2012, by midnight UTC/GMT. *How to Apply * For more information about the full Next Generation Leaders programme, including details on how to apply to all eLearning courses, please visit: English: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning French: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr Spanish: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es If you have any questions, please contact . ************************************************************************ FRANCAIS *Candidatures maintenant ouvertes – Programme de formation à distance des leaders de la prochaine génération « Façonner Internet – Histoire et avenir » (anglais, français et espagnol)* Les candidatures sont désormais ouvertes pour le programme de formation à distance des leaders de la prochaine génération (Next Generation Leaders - NGL) de l'Internet Society « Façonner l’Internet – Histoire et avenir ». Anglais : http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning Français : http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr Espagnol : http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es L’Internet Society a le plaisir d’annoncer l’appel à candidatures de personnes talentueuses souhaitant se joindre à la prochaine génération de leaders de l'Internet qui se penchera sur les défis technologiques, politiques, commerciaux et éducatifs qui se profilent. Suite au succès du programme l’année dernière, l’Internet Society propose deux cours en anglais, un en français et un en espagnol en 2012.. Tous les cours débuteront la semaine du 21 mai 2012. La formation « Façonner l’Internet – Histoire et avenir » sera assurée par DiploFoundation par l’intermédiaire de sa plateforme de formation à distance et sa méthodologie d’apprentissage. Elle comprend des discussions hebdomadaires en ligne portant sur le matériel pédagogique, animées par un tuteur et un formateur expert. Le programme NGL est destiné à faire évoluer la carrière de personnes dotées d’un potentiel de leadership à l'échelle locale, régionale et internationale au sein des communautés Internet en matière de technologie, politiques et gouvernance. Le programme permet aux participants de partager leur expertise avec leurs collègues tout en acquérant des connaissances dans des domaines autres que leurs spécialités. Les places pour la formation à distance étant strictement limitées, toutes les candidatures seront soumises à un processus de sélection rigoureux. *La date limite de dépôt des candidatures est le 10 avril 2012.* * * *Le programme* Le programme offre 25 places par cours pour des professionnels issus de divers horizons dans les domaines de la technologie, de la gouvernance et des politiques liées à Internet. Tous les cours sont ouverts aux participants du monde entier. Le programme se déroulera entièrement en ligne. Le programme comprend quatre parties thématiques et s’étendra sur six mois (de mai à octobre 2012, avec un examen à la fin du cours) : § Histoire de l’Internet § Origines techniques – Normes et technologie Internet § Gouvernance et politiques liées à l’Internet § Questions émergentes – Étude des politiques, processus et diplomatie de l’Internet Les activités d'apprentissage se dérouleront dans une salle de cours en ligne et comporteront l'analyse du matériel pédagogique, des discussions de groupe interactives reposant sur plusieurs outils de communication, des devoirs et des examens. Les participants retenus recevront un diplôme de conclusion du programme. *Langues * Le matériel pédagogique et les discussions animées en ligne pour chaque cours sont en anglais, français et espagnol, respectivement. *Public ciblé * Le projet est destiné aux membres de l’Internet Society issus du monde universitaire, du secteur public, des industries technologiques et de la société civile, engagés dans l'expansion continue d'un Internet ouvert et durable. Les candidatures des catégories de personnes suivantes, issues à la fois de pays développés et en développement, sont encouragées: § représentants des ministères et départements gouvernementaux traitant des questions liées aux TIC (télécommunications, culture, éducation, affaires étrangères, justice, par exemple) ; § représentants des autorités ou institutions de réglementation s’occupant de la société de l’information, de l’Internet et des questions liées aux TIC ; § étudiants de troisième cycle et chercheurs (en télécommunications, génie électrique, droit, économie, développement et sociologie, par exemple) ; § ingénieurs dans le domaine de l’Internet ; § militants de la société civile dans le domaine de l’Internet ; § journalistes couvrant les questions liées à l’Internet ; § entrepreneurs dans le domaine de l’Internet (fournisseurs de services Internet ou personnes impliquées dans le développement de logiciels, par exemple). * * *Calendrier * § 22 mars : Ouverture de l’appel à candidatures 2012 § 10 avril : Clôture de l’appel à candidatures 2012 § 10 et 11 mai : Divulgation des résultats de la sélection § 21 mai : Début des cours en ligne *Critères de sélection * Les candidats doivent : § avoir l’âge requis (de 20 à 40 ans) ; § avoir des notions de base en matière de, ou être intéressés par, les questions liées à l’Internet ; § disposer de connaissances et d’expérience en approche multi-parties prenantes en termes d’affaires internationales ; § avoir une formation académique et/ou une expérience professionnelle appropriées dans le domaine de l’Internet ; § être membre de l’ISOC ; http://www.internetsociety.org/get-involved/join-community § maîtriser le français ; § avoir de bonnes capacités de rédaction, de synthèse et une précision des détails ; § disposer d’une connexion Internet (haut débit de préférence) ; § avoir au moins 8 heures de disponibilité hebdomadaire pendant chaque partie thématique de la formation en ligne (il s'agit du critère de sélection le plus important qui doit être évalué sérieusement par tous les candidats éventuels) ; § être prêts à participer aux consultations en ligne (une fois par semaine à des heures précises) ; *Date limite de dépôt des candidatures * La date limite de dépôt des candidatures est le 10 avril 2012 à minuit UTC/GMT. *Comment déposer une candidature * Pour en savoir plus sur le programme complet Next Generation Leaders (Leaders de la prochaine génération), y compris obtenir des détails sur la façon de poser sa candidature aux cours de formation à distance, veuillez consulter : Anglais : http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning Français : http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr Espagnol : http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es Pour toute question, veuillez contacter . ************************************************************************ ESPAÑOL *Abierto el plazo de presentación de solicitudes para el programa de eLearning “Dando forma a Internet – historia y futuro” del programa Líderes de la próxima generación. **(inglés, francés y español)* Abierto el plazo de presentación de solicitudes para el programa de eLearning “Dando forma a Internet – historia y futuro” del programa de Líderes de la próxima generación. Inglés: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning Francés: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr Español: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es Internet Society tiene el placer de convocar solicitudes de personas con talento interesadas en unirse a una nueva generación de líderes de Internet, que harán frente a los desafíos más importantes relacionados con la tecnología, la política, la empresa y la educación que les esperan. Después del éxito del programa del año pasado, en 2012, Internet Society ofrece dos clases en inglés, una en francés y una en español.Todas las clases comenzarán en la semana del 21 de mayo de 2012. El curso, “Dando forma a Internet – historia y futuro” viene avalado por la DiploFoundation y se imparte con la metodología de su plataforma de eLearning, que ofrece debates semanales en línea sobre el contenido del curso, moderados por un tutor y facilitador experto. El programa NGL se ha diseñado para ayudar a individuos a avanzar en su carrera profesional, individuos que tienen el potencial de convertirse en líderes locales, regionales e internacionales en la comunidad de tecnología de Internet, políticas y gobernanza. Este currículo permite a los participantes compartir su experiencia particular con los colegas además de adquirir conocimientos en áreas relacionadas que no forman parte de sus especialidades. Las plazas del curso en línea con metodología eLearning son muy limitadas, y todas las solicitudes están sujetas a un proceso de selección muy estricto. *La fecha límite para la presentación de solicitudes es el 10 de abril de 2012.* *El programa* El programa ofrece clases de 25 alumnos para profesionales con antecedentes diversos en los campos de tecnología de Internet, gobernanza y política. Todos los cursos están disponibles para candidatos de cualquier parte del mundo. El programa se desarrollará de forma exclusiva en línea. El programa incluye cuatro bloques temáticos, que se impartirán durante seis meses del año 2012 (de mayo a octubre, con un examen al terminar el curso): § The History of the Internet (La historia de Internet) § Technical Background - Internet Standards and Technology (Antecedentes técnicos: estándares de Internet y tecnología) § Internet Governance and Policy (Gobernanza de Internet y política) § Emerging issues – Studies in Internet Policies, Processes and Diplomacy (Problemas emergentes: estudios en políticas, procesos y diplomacia de Internet) Las actividades de formación se desarrollan en una clase en línea, e incluyen análisis de los materiales del curso, debates en grupo interactivos usando diversas herramientas de comunicación, tareas y exámenes. Los participantes que completen el programa con éxito recibirán un certificado de aprovechamiento del curso. *Idiomas * Los materiales del curso y los debates moderados en línea de cada curso serán en inglés, francés y español respectivamente. *Audiencia objetivo* El proyecto está diseñado para miembros de Internet Society procedentes del sector académico, público, tecnológico y miembros de la sociedad civil que se comprometan al crecimiento libre y sostenible de Internet. Se anima especialmente a presentar solicitudes a miembros de las siguientes categorías de participantes, tanto de países desarrollados como de países en vías de desarrollo: § funcionarios públicos de ministerios y departamentos que se encargan de temas relacionados con las TIC (tecnologías de la información y la comunicación), como telecomunicaciones, cultura, educación, asuntos exteriores o justicia § funcionarios públicos de autoridades de normativa gubernamental o instituciones que se encargan de temas relacionados con la sociedad de la información, Internet y las TIC § estudiantes de posgrado e investigadores (de telecomunicaciones, ingeniería eléctrica, derecho, economía, estudios de desarrollo o sociología, por ejemplo) § ingenieros en el ámbito de Internet § activistas de la sociedad civil en el ámbito de Internet § periodistas que tratan cuestiones relacionadas con Internet § empresarios en el ámbito de Internet (como por ejemplo los que se dedican a la gestión de ISP (proveedores de servicio de Internet) o al desarrollo de software. *Plazos * § 22 de marzo: Comienza la admisión de solicitudes para 2012 § 10 de abril: Termina la admisión de solicitudes para 2012 § 10, 11 de mayo: Publicación de los resultados de la selección § 21 de mayo: Comienzo de las clases en línea *Requisitos * Los candidatos deben tener: § una edad comprendida entre los 20 y los 40 años; § interés y concienciación en asuntos relacionados con Internet; § conocimiento y experiencia con el enfoque de multiparticipación en asuntos internacionales; § antecedentes profesionales y experiencia laboral o académica relevantes en el ámbito de Internet; § ser miembro de ISOC http://www.internetsociety.org/get-involved/join-community § español fluido § buena capacidad de escritura, facilidad para hacer resúmenes y atención a los detalles; § acceso a Internet regular (de acceso telefónico es suficiente); § un mínimo de 8 horas de trabajo por semana durante cada bloque temático del curso en línea (éste es el requisito más importante y todos los candidatos deben tenerlo especialmente en cuenta); y § disposición para participar en las consultas en línea (una vez a la semana en horarios especificados); *Fecha límite para la presentación de solicitudes * La fecha límite para la presentación de solicitudes es el 10 de abril de 2012 a las 00:00 UTC/GMT. * * *Cómo enviar la solicitud * Para más información acerca del programa Líderes de la próxima generación, incluidos detalles sobre cómo rellenar solicitudes para los cursos de eLearning, vaya a: Inglés: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning Francés: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr Español: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es Si tiene alguna pregunta, envíe un correo electrónico a la dirección < leaders at internetsociety.org>. 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Esta es una muy buena noticia!!!!! Thank you Ginger! This is great news!! * Sergio Salinas Porto Presidente Internauta Argentina Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet FLUI- Federación Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet ICANN/LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * * "Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" -Eduardo Galeano- * El 22/03/2012 05:40 p.m., Ginger Paque escribió: > > ================================================================================= > > VERSION FRANCAISE CI-DESSOUS // VERSIÓN ESPAÑOLA ABAJO // > > =================================================================================** > > *Applications now open - Next Generation Leaders eLearning programme > “Shaping the Internet – History and Futures” (English,French and Spanish)* > > Applications are now open for the Internet Society’s Next Generation > Leaders (NGL) eLearning programme “Shaping the Internet – History and > Futures.” > > English: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning > > French: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr > > Spanish: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es > > Internet Society is pleased to call for applications from talented > individuals seeking to join the new generation of Internet leaders, > who will address the critical technology, policy, business, and > education challenges that lie ahead. > > Following the success of last year’s programme, in 2012 the Internet > Society is offering two classes in English, one in French, and one in > Spanish. All classes will start the week of 21 May 2012. > > The course, “Shaping the Internet – History and Futures”, is delivered > by the DiploFoundation through their eLearning platform and learning > methodology and features weekly online discussions of the course > materials, moderated by a tutor and an expert facilitator. > > The NGL programme is designed to advance the careers of individuals > who have the potential to become local, regional, and international > leaders within the Internet technology, policy, and governance > communities. The curriculum empowers participants to share their > particular expertise with colleagues while acquiring knowledge in > areas outside of their specialties. > > Places in the eLearning course are strictly limited, so all > applications will be subject to a thorough selection process. > > */The deadline for applications is 10 April 2012./* > > ** > > *The Programme* > > The programme offers 25 places in each class for professionals from > diverse stakeholder backgrounds in the fields of Internet technology, > governance, and policy. All courses are open to individuals from > around the world. The programme will be conducted entirely online. > > The programme includes four thematic parts, which take place over six > months during 2012 (May to October, with an exam at the conclusion of > the course): > > §The History of the Internet > > §Technical Background - Internet Standards and Technology > > §Internet Governance and Policy > > §Emerging issues – Studies in Internet Policies, Processes and Diplomacy > > Learning activities take place in an online classroom and include > analysis of course materials, interactive group discussions using a > variety of communication tools, assignments, and exams. Successful > participants will receive a certificate of completion of the programme. > > *Languages* > > Course materials and moderated online discussions for each course are > in English, French, and Spanish respectively. > > *Target Audience* > > The project is designed for Internet Society members from academia, > the public sector, technology industries, and civil society who are > committed to the ongoing expansion of an open, sustainable Internet. > > Applications from the following categories of individuals from both > developed and developing countries are encouraged: > > §officials in governmental ministries and departments dealing with > ICT-related issues (for example, telecommunications, culture, > education, foreign affairs, justice) > > §officials in regulatory authorities or institutions dealing with > Information Society, Internet, and ICT-related issues > > §postgraduate students and researchers (for example, > telecommunications, electrical engineering, law, economics, > development studies, sociology) > > §engineers in the Internet field > > §civil society activists in the Internet field > > §journalists covering Internet-related issues > > §business people in the Internet field (for example, those managing > ISPs or involved in software development). > > *Timeline* > > §22 March:2012 Call for Applications begins > > §10 April: 2012 Call for Applications ends > > §10, 11 May: Selection Results released > > §21 May:Online classes commence > > *Requirements* > > Applicants are required to have: > > §met the age requirement (20-40 years old) > > §a basic awareness of, and interest in, Internet-related issues > > §knowledge and experience of the multi-stakeholder approach in > international affairs > > §a professional background and relevant work or academic experience in > the Internet field > > §member staus in ISOC > http://www.internetsociety.org/get-involved/join-community > > §fluency in English > > §good writing skills, ability to summarize information, and focus on > details > > §regular access to the Internet (dial-up connection is sufficient) > > §minimum of 8 hours commitment per week during each thematic part of > the online course (this is perhaps the single most important > requirement and should be evaluated seriously by any potential applicant) > > §readiness to participate in online consultations (once a week at > specified times) > > *Deadline for Applications* > > The deadline for applications is 10 April 2012, by midnight UTC/GMT. > > *How to Apply * > > For more information about the full Next Generation Leaders programme, > including details on how to apply to all eLearning courses, please visit: > > English: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning > > French: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr > > Spanish: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es > > If you have any questions, please contact >. > > ************************************************************************ > > FRANCAIS > > *Candidatures maintenant ouvertes – Programme de formation à distance > des leaders de la prochaine génération « Façonner Internet – Histoire > et avenir » (anglais, français et espagnol)* > > Les candidatures sont désormais ouvertes pour le programme de > formation à distance des leaders de la prochaine génération (Next > Generation Leaders - NGL) de l'Internet Society« Façonner l’Internet – > Histoire et avenir ». > > Anglais : > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning > > Français : > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr > > Espagnol : > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es > > L’Internet Society a le plaisir d’annoncer l’appel à candidatures de > personnes talentueuses souhaitant se joindre à la prochaine génération > de leaders de l'Internet qui se penchera sur les défis technologiques, > politiques, commerciaux et éducatifs qui se profilent. > > Suite au succès du programme l’année dernière, l’Internet Society > propose deux cours en anglais, un en français et un en espagnol en > 2012.. Tous les cours débuteront la semaine du 21 mai 2012. > > La formation « Façonner l’Internet – Histoire et avenir » sera assurée > par DiploFoundation par l’intermédiaire de sa plateforme de formation > à distance et sa méthodologie d’apprentissage. Elle comprend > desdiscussions hebdomadaires en ligne portant sur le matériel > pédagogique, animées par un tuteur et un formateur expert. > > Le programme NGL est destiné à faire évoluer la carrière de personnes > dotées d’un potentiel de leadership à l'échelle locale, régionale et > internationale au sein des communautés Internet en matière de > technologie, politiques et gouvernance. Le programme permet aux > participants de partager leur expertise avec leurs collègues tout en > acquérant des connaissances dans des domaines autres que leurs > spécialités. > > Les places pour la formation à distance étant strictement limitées, > toutes les candidatures seront soumises à un processus de sélection > rigoureux. > > */La date limite de dépôt des candidatures est le 10 avril 2012./* > > ** > > *Le programme* > > Le programme offre 25 places par cours pour des professionnels issus > de divers horizons dans les domaines de la technologie, de la > gouvernance et des politiques liées à Internet. Tous les cours sont > ouverts aux participants du monde entier. Le programme se déroulera > entièrement en ligne. > > Le programme comprend quatre parties thématiques et s’étendra sur six > mois (de mai à octobre 2012, avec un examen à la fin du cours) : > > §Histoire de l’Internet > > §Origines techniques – Normes et technologie Internet > > §Gouvernance et politiques liées à l’Internet > > §Questions émergentes – Étude des politiques, processus et diplomatie > de l’Internet > > Les activités d'apprentissage se dérouleront dans une salle de cours > en ligne et comporteront l'analyse du matériel pédagogique, des > discussions de groupe interactives reposant sur plusieurs outils de > communication, des devoirs et des examens. Les participants retenus > recevront un diplôme de conclusion du programme. > > *Langues * > > Le matériel pédagogique et les discussions animées en ligne pour > chaque cours sont en anglais, français et espagnol, respectivement. > > *Public ciblé * > > Le projet est destiné aux membres de l’Internet Society issus du monde > universitaire, du secteur public, des industries technologiques et de > la société civile, engagés dans l'expansion continue d'un Internet > ouvert et durable. > > Les candidatures des catégories de personnes suivantes, issues à la > fois de pays développés et en développement, sont encouragées: > > §représentants des ministères et départements gouvernementaux traitant > des questions liées aux TIC (télécommunications, culture, éducation, > affaires étrangères, justice, par exemple) ; > > §représentants des autorités ou institutions de réglementation > s’occupant de la société de l’information, de l’Internet et des > questions liées aux TIC ; > > §étudiants de troisième cycle et chercheurs (en télécommunications, > génie électrique, droit, économie, développement et sociologie, par > exemple) ; > > §ingénieurs dans le domaine de l’Internet ; > > §militants de la société civile dans le domaine de l’Internet ; > > §journalistes couvrant les questions liées à l’Internet ; > > §entrepreneurs dans le domaine de l’Internet (fournisseurs de services > Internet ou personnes impliquées dans le développement de logiciels, > par exemple). > > ** > > *Calendrier * > > §22 mars :Ouverture de l’appel à candidatures 2012 > > §10 avril :Clôture de l’appel à candidatures 2012 > > §10 et 11 mai :Divulgation des résultats de la sélection > > §21 mai :Début des cours en ligne > > *Critères de sélection * > > Les candidats doivent : > > §avoir l’âge requis (de 20 à 40 ans) ; > > §avoir des notions de base en matière de, ou être intéressés par, les > questions liées à l’Internet ; > > §disposer de connaissances et d’expérience en approche multi-parties > prenantes en termes d’affaires internationales ; > > §avoir une formation académique et/ou une expérience professionnelle > appropriées dans le domaine de l’Internet ; > > §être membre de l’ISOC ; > http://www.internetsociety.org/get-involved/join-community > > §maîtriser le français ; > > §avoir de bonnes capacités de rédaction, de synthèse et une précision > des détails ; > > §disposer d’une connexion Internet (haut débit de préférence) ; > > §avoir au moins 8 heures de disponibilité hebdomadaire pendant chaque > partie thématique de la formation en ligne (il s'agit du critère de > sélection le plus important qui doit être évalué sérieusement par tous > les candidats éventuels) ; > > §être prêts à participer aux consultations en ligne (une fois par > semaine à des heures précises) ; > > *Date limite de dépôt des candidatures * > > La date limite de dépôt des candidatures est le 10 avril 2012 à minuit > UTC/GMT. > > *Comment déposer une candidature * > > Pour en savoir plus sur le programme complet Next Generation Leaders > (Leaders de la prochaine génération), y compris obtenir des détails > sur la façon de poser sa candidature aux cours de formation à > distance, veuillez consulter : > > Anglais : > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning > > Français : > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr > > Espagnol : > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es > > Pour toute question, veuillez contacter >. > > ************************************************************************ > > ESPAÑOL > > *Abierto el plazo de presentación de solicitudes para el programa de > eLearning “Dando forma a Internet – historia y futuro” del programa > Líderes de la próxima generación. **(inglés, francés y español)* > > Abierto el plazo de presentación de solicitudes para el programa de > eLearning “Dando forma a Internet – historia y futuro” del programa de > Líderes de la próxima generación. > > Inglés: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning > > Francés: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr > > Español: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es > > Internet Society tiene el placer de convocar solicitudes de personas > con talento interesadas en unirse a una nueva generación de líderes de > Internet, que harán frente a los desafíos más importantes relacionados > con la tecnología, la política, la empresa y la educación que les > esperan. > > Después del éxito del programa del año pasado, en 2012, Internet > Society ofrece dos clases en inglés, una en francés y una en > español.Todas las clases comenzarán en la semana del 21 de mayo de 2012. > > El curso, “Dando forma a Internet – historia y futuro” viene avalado > por la DiploFoundation y se imparte con la metodología de su > plataformade eLearning, que ofrece debates semanales en línea sobre el > contenido del curso, moderados por un tutor y facilitador experto. > > El programa NGL se ha diseñado para ayudar a individuos a avanzar en > su carrera profesional, individuos que tienen el potencial de > convertirse en líderes locales, regionales e internacionales en la > comunidad de tecnología de Internet, políticas y gobernanza. Este > currículo permite a los participantes compartir su experiencia > particular con los colegas además de adquirir conocimientos en áreas > relacionadas que no forman parte de sus especialidades. > > Las plazas del curso en línea con metodología eLearning son muy > limitadas, y todas las solicitudes están sujetas a un proceso de > selección muy estricto. > > */La fecha límite para la presentación de solicitudes es el 10 de > abril de 2012./* > > *El programa* > > El programa ofrece clases de 25 alumnos para profesionales con > antecedentes diversos en los campos de tecnología de Internet, > gobernanza y política. Todos los cursos están disponibles para > candidatos de cualquier parte del mundo. El programa se desarrollará > de forma exclusiva en línea. > > El programa incluye cuatro bloques temáticos, que se impartirán > durante seis meses del año 2012 (de mayo a octubre, con un examen al > terminar el curso): > > §The History of the Internet (La historia de Internet) > > §Technical Background - Internet Standards and Technology > (Antecedentes técnicos: estándares de Internet y tecnología) > > §Internet Governance and Policy (Gobernanza de Internet y política) > > §Emerging issues – Studies in Internet Policies, Processes and > Diplomacy (Problemas emergentes: estudios en políticas, procesos y > diplomacia de Internet) > > Las actividades de formación se desarrollan en una clase en línea, e > incluyen análisis de los materiales del curso, debates en grupo > interactivos usando diversas herramientas de comunicación, tareas y > exámenes. Los participantes que completen el programa con éxito > recibirán un certificado de aprovechamiento del curso. > > *Idiomas * > > Los materiales del curso y los debates moderados en línea de cada > curso serán en inglés, francés y español respectivamente. > > *Audiencia objetivo* > > El proyecto está diseñado para miembros de Internet Society > procedentes del sector académico, público, tecnológico y miembros de > la sociedad civil que se comprometan al crecimiento libre y sostenible > de Internet. > > Se anima especialmente a presentar solicitudes a miembros de las > siguientes categorías de participantes, tanto de países desarrollados > como de países en vías de desarrollo: > > §funcionarios públicos de ministerios y departamentos que se encargan > de temas relacionados con las TIC (tecnologías de la información y la > comunicación), como telecomunicaciones, cultura, educación, asuntos > exteriores o justicia > > §funcionarios públicos de autoridades de normativa gubernamental o > instituciones que se encargan de temas relacionados con la sociedad de > la información, Internet y las TIC > > §estudiantes de posgrado e investigadores (de telecomunicaciones, > ingeniería eléctrica, derecho, economía, estudios de desarrollo o > sociología, por ejemplo) > > §ingenieros en el ámbito de Internet > > §activistas de la sociedad civil en el ámbito de Internet > > §periodistas que tratan cuestiones relacionadas con Internet > > §empresarios en el ámbito de Internet (como por ejemplo los que se > dedican a la gestión de ISP (proveedores de servicio de Internet) o al > desarrollo de software. > > *Plazos * > > §22 de marzo:Comienza la admisión de solicitudes para 2012 > > §10 de abril:Termina la admisión de solicitudes para 2012 > > §10, 11 de mayo:Publicación de los resultados de la selección > > §21 de mayo:Comienzo de las clases en línea > > *Requisitos * > > Los candidatos deben tener: > > §una edad comprendida entre los 20 y los 40 años; > > §interés y concienciación en asuntos relacionados con Internet; > > §conocimiento y experiencia con el enfoque de multiparticipación en > asuntos internacionales; > > §antecedentes profesionales y experiencia laboral o académica > relevantes en el ámbito de Internet; > > §ser miembro de ISOC > http://www.internetsociety.org/get-involved/join-community > > §españolfluido > > §buena capacidad de escritura, facilidad para hacer resúmenes y > atención a los detalles; > > §acceso a Internet regular (de acceso telefónico es suficiente); > > §un mínimo de 8 horas de trabajo por semana durante cada bloque > temático del curso en línea (éste es el requisito más importante y > todos los candidatos deben tenerlo especialmente en cuenta); y > > §disposición para participar en las consultas en línea (una vez a la > semana en horarios especificados); > > *Fecha límite para la presentación de solicitudes * > > La fecha límite para la presentación de solicitudes es el 10 de abril > de 2012 a las 00:00 UTC/GMT. > > ** > > *Cómo enviar la solicitud * > > Para más información acerca del programa Líderes de la próxima > generación, incluidos detalles sobre cómo rellenar solicitudes para > los cursos de eLearning, vaya a: > > Inglés: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning > > Francés: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/fr > > Español: > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme/elearning/es > > Si tiene alguna pregunta, envíe un correo electrónico a la dirección > >. > > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > > VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu > Diplo Foundation > Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme > www.diplomacy.edu/ig > /The latest from Diplo..../From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the > most exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in > May 2012: *Bilateral Diplomacy*, *Diplomacy of Small States*, and > *E-diplomacy*. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 18:43:39 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:43:39 -0300 Subject: [governance] FW: Company claims ownership of 482 new gTLDs Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: nettime-l-bounces at mail.kein.org [mailto:nettime-l-bounces at mail.kein.org] On Behalf Of nettime's_roving_reporter Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:59 PM To: nettime-l at kein.org Subject: [SPAM] Company claims ownership of 482 new gTLDs http://domainincite.com/company-claims-ownership-of-482-new-gtlds/ Company claims ownership of 482 new gTLDs Kevin Murphy, March 22, 2012, 15:51:26 (UTC), Domain Registries A small New York company has warned new gTLD applicants that it owns 482 top-level domain strings and that ICANN has "no authority" to award them to anybody else. Name.Space claims it has ownership rights to potentially valuable gTLDs including several likely to be applied for by others, such as .shop, .nyc, .sex, .hotel and .green. It's been operating hundreds of "gTLDs" in a lightly-used alternate DNS root system since 1996. Now the company has filed for trademark protection for several of these strings and has said that it will apply for several through the ICANN new gTLD program. But Name.Space, which says it has just "tens of thousands" of domain registrations in its alternate root, is also claiming that it already owns all 482 strings in the ICANN root too. "What we did is put them on notice that they cannot give any of these 482 names to anyone else," CEO Alex Mashinsky told DomainIncite. "These names predate ICANN. They don't have authority under US law to issue these gTLDs to third parties." "We're putting out there the 482 names to make sure other people don't risk their money applying for things ICANN cannot legally give them," he added. [DEL: I could not find a comprehensive list of all 482 strings, but Name.Space publishes a subset here. :DEL] Read the company's full list here (pdf). It's a slightly ridiculous position. Anyone can set up an alternative DNS root, fill it with dictionary words and start selling names - the question is whether anyone actually uses it. However, putting that aside, Name.Space may have a legitimate quarrel with ICANN anyway. It applied for a whopping 118 gTLDs in ICANN's initial "test-bed" round in 2000, which produced the likes of .biz, .info, .name and .museum. While ICANN did not select any of Name.Space's proposed names for delegation, it did not "reject" its application outright either. This is going to cause problems. Name.Space is not the only unsuccessful 2000 applicant that remains pissed off 12 years later that ICANN has not closed the book on its application. Image Online Design, an alternate root provider and 2000 applicant, has a claim to .web that is likely to emerge as an issue for other applicants after the May 2 reveal date. These unsuccessful candidates are unhappy that they've been repeatedly told that their old applications were not rejected, and with the privileges ICANN has given them in the current Applicant Guidebook. ICANN will give any unsuccessful bidder from the 2000 round an $86,000 discount on its application fees, provided they apply for the same string they applied for the first time. However, like any other applicant this time around, they also have to sign away their rights to sue. And the $86,000 discount is only redeemable against one gTLD application, not 118. "We applied for 118 and we would like to get the whole 118," said Mashinsky. ICANN is not going to give Name.Space what it wants, of course, so it's not clear how this is going to play out. The company could file Legal Rights Objections against applications for strings it thinks it owns, or it could take matters further. While the company is not yet making legal threats, any applicants for gTLDs on Name.Space's list should be aware that they do have an additional risk factor to take into account. "We hope we can resolve all of this amicably," said Mashinsky. "We're not trying to throw a monkey wrench into the process." # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime at kein.org !DSPAM:2676,4f6b848425626914488019! -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 02:41:00 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 08:41:00 +0200 Subject: [governance] FW: Company claims ownership of 482 new gTLDs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F6C1AFC.9010608@gmail.com> This is interesting. The first come first serve implicit rule of IPRs was done away with by conflating trademarks with domain names and creating the notion of cyber-squating... this is the wild west of terra nullius... anything can happen, but most likely 'might is right'... signing away rights to ICANN to apply? On 2012/03/23 12:43 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: nettime-l-bounces at mail.kein.org > [mailto:nettime-l-bounces at mail.kein.org] On Behalf Of > nettime's_roving_reporter > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:59 PM > To: nettime-l at kein.org > Subject: [SPAM] Company claims ownership of 482 new gTLDs > > > http://domainincite.com/company-claims-ownership-of-482-new-gtlds/ > > Company claims ownership of 482 new gTLDs > > Kevin Murphy, March 22, 2012, 15:51:26 (UTC), Domain Registries > > A small New York company has warned new gTLD applicants that it owns > 482 top-level domain strings and that ICANN has "no authority" to award > them to anybody else. > > Name.Space claims it has ownership rights to potentially valuable > gTLDs including several likely to be applied for by others, such as > .shop, .nyc, .sex, .hotel and .green. > > It's been operating hundreds of "gTLDs" in a lightly-used alternate DNS > root system since 1996. > > Now the company has filed for trademark protection for several of these > strings and has said that it will apply for several through the ICANN > new gTLD program. > > But Name.Space, which says it has just "tens of thousands" of domain > registrations in its alternate root, is also claiming that it already > owns all 482 strings in the ICANN root too. > > "What we did is put them on notice that they cannot give any of these > 482 names to anyone else," CEO Alex Mashinsky told DomainIncite. "These > names predate ICANN. They don't have authority under US law to issue > these gTLDs to third parties." > > "We're putting out there the 482 names to make sure other people don't > risk their money applying for things ICANN cannot legally give them," > he added. > > [DEL: I could not find a comprehensive list of all 482 strings, but > Name.Space publishes a subset here. :DEL] Read the company's full > list here (pdf). > > It's a slightly ridiculous position. Anyone can set up an alternative > DNS root, fill it with dictionary words and start selling names - the > question is whether anyone actually uses it. > > However, putting that aside, Name.Space may have a legitimate quarrel > with ICANN anyway. > > It applied for a whopping 118 gTLDs in ICANN's initial "test-bed" round > in 2000, which produced the likes of .biz, .info, .name and .museum. > > While ICANN did not select any of Name.Space's proposed names for > delegation, it did not "reject" its application outright either. > > This is going to cause problems. Name.Space is not the only > unsuccessful 2000 applicant that remains pissed off 12 years later that > ICANN has not closed the book on its application. > > Image Online Design, an alternate root provider and 2000 applicant, has > a claim to .web that is likely to emerge as an issue for other > applicants after the May 2 reveal date. > > These unsuccessful candidates are unhappy that they've been repeatedly > told that their old applications were not rejected, and with the > privileges ICANN has given them in the current Applicant Guidebook. > > ICANN will give any unsuccessful bidder from the 2000 round an $86,000 > discount on its application fees, provided they apply for the same > string they applied for the first time. > > However, like any other applicant this time around, they also have to > sign away their rights to sue. > > And the $86,000 discount is only redeemable against one gTLD > application, not 118. > > "We applied for 118 and we would like to get the whole 118," said > Mashinsky. > > ICANN is not going to give Name.Space what it wants, of course, so it's > not clear how this is going to play out. > > The company could file Legal Rights Objections against applications for > strings it thinks it owns, or it could take matters further. > > While the company is not yet making legal threats, any applicants for > gTLDs on Name.Space's list should be aware that they do have an > additional risk factor to take into account. > > "We hope we can resolve all of this amicably," said Mashinsky. "We're > not trying to throw a monkey wrench into the process." > > > # distributed via: no commercial use without permission # > is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative > text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: > http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime at kein.org > > > !DSPAM:2676,4f6b848425626914488019! > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 14:26:10 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 06:26:10 +1200 Subject: [governance] Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team Report [Call for Comments] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear All, As some of you may know the Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) had released its Draft Report and Recommendations on the 15th March, 2012 and public comments are invited and close on the 8th April, 2012 see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm Kind Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From apisan at unam.mx Sat Mar 24 14:33:03 2012 From: apisan at unam.mx (Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:33:03 +0000 Subject: [governance] Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team Report [Call for Comments] In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <6DCAB3E586E6A34FB17223DF8D8F0D3D188D6C33@W8-EX10MB.unam.local> Sala, all, SSR review comments are open till April 30, not April 8. Forum opens on April 9, closes April 30. Alejandro Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 *Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com *LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty *Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 *Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ Desde: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro [salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com] Enviado el: sábado, 24 de marzo de 2012 12:26 Hasta: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Asunto: [governance] Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team Report [Call for Comments] Dear All, As some of you may know the Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) had released its Draft Report and Recommendations on the 15th March, 2012 and public comments are invited and close on the 8th April, 2012 see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm Kind Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 14:48:45 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 06:48:45 +1200 Subject: [governance] Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team Report [Call for Comments] In-Reply-To: <6DCAB3E586E6A34FB17223DF8D8F0D3D188D6C33@W8-EX10MB.unam.local> References: <6DCAB3E586E6A34FB17223DF8D8F0D3D188D6C33@W8-EX10MB.unam.local> Message-ID: Thanks Alejandro. If there are people interested in getting together to use the etherpad on the website or responding to this email thread to discuss the contents of the Report and recommendations and encourage comments and participation into the policy processes, then we had better get this moving along. This Policy space is a critical as it affects the stability of the internet through the DNS and makes recommendations that will affect us so it is important to be involved through giving feedback. Dr Alejandro Pisanty chairs the SSR-RT that issued the Draft Report and Alice Munya is one of the GAC Nominees to this. My suggested time frames for us as a community are:- *25th March, 2012* [alert IGC of the Report and Public Comment Period] and call for consultations and volunteers. It would be excellent to have a mix of skill sets [technical, economics, legal etc] *31st March, 2012* - the volunteers can start initiating and assembling structured feedback and a response *4th April, 2012* - first consolidated draft *8th April, 2012* - second consolidated draft This can be put to the IGC for 48 hours comment and further analysis, work, input etc can be poured into this and we can finalise by the 14th April, 2012 and submit our Position. Kind Regards, Sala On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < apisan at unam.mx> wrote: > Sala, all, > > SSR review comments are open till April 30, not April 8. Forum opens on April 9, closes April 30. > > Alejandro Pisanty > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > *Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > *LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > *Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > *Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > ________________________________________ > Desde: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [ governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro [salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com] > Enviado el: sábado, 24 de marzo de 2012 12:26 > Hasta: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Asunto: [governance] Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team Report [Call for Comments] > > Dear All, > > As some of you may know the Security, Stability & Resiliency of the > DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) had released its Draft Report and > Recommendations on the 15th March, 2012 and public comments are > invited and close on the 8th April, 2012 see: > http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm > > Kind Regards, > > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ICANN has community participants and leaders from all regions of the world, and is seeking ways to make enhancements to its performance as a global organization. The feedback collected from the survey will help inform ICANN's strategy for improving its global engagement. By identifying the activities that are most important toward fully reflecting the global nature of ICANN's mission, it will also help to establish priorities for next steps. The survey is available in all of the UN languages, and feedback is encouraged from stakeholders in all regions. Take the survey: http://questionpro.com/t/AHB7OZM7Lx The survey is designed to: Help ICANN understand its relative strengths and challenges as a global participant; Evaluate ICANNs major organizational functions/processes and the extent to which they can be leveraged to improve ICANNs effectiveness and reputation globally; and Assist ICANN in prioritizing initiatives that will improve its effectiveness as a global organization. The survey results will be shared with the ICANN community, and additional opportunities will be made available to comment before any actions are formalized and implemented. The survey is open until 22 April 2012. Questions may be sent to participation at icann.org.   This message was sent to baher.esmat at icann.org from: ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way Suite 330 | Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601   Email Marketing by    Manage Your Subscription ------ End of Forwarded Message -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Wed Mar 28 10:43:46 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:43:46 +0200 Subject: [governance] New Role for Google? References: <4F61A12C.8060909@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CC9E5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA70@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> FYI UK House of Lords & Commons "We also recommend that major corporations, such as Google, take practical steps to limit the potential for breaches of court orders through use of their products and, if they fail to do so, legislation should be introduced to force them to. An effective deterrent against future breaches of injunctions online would be for the Attorney General to be more willing to bring actions for civil contempt of court for such breaches." http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/jt201012/jtselect/jtprivinj/273/273.pdf wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The deadline for submission is 12 April 2012 - some 14 days (2 weeks) from now. http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 Workshops 2012 We are now accepting workshop proposals for the 2012 IGF Annual Meeting in Baku. The workshops will be held generally in parallel to the Main Sessions. Organizers of workshops are asked to present their proposals making use of the template posted below. Proposals should respect the organizational principles and criteria for the selection of workshops. The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) will assess the proposals. The final schedule will be determined in light of the number of proposals submitted. Organizational Principles • The guiding organizational principle for holding workshops is the multi-stakeholder approach. Geographical diversity is an equally relevant factor. • All proposals fulfilling the selection criteria and using the template will be posted on the IGF Web site. • Proposals should preferably be submitted in English. 12 April 2012 is set as the deadline for submitting proposals. • The rooms reserved for workshops and all equipment, including a screen and a PC or laptop for projections and a projector (XGA/SVGA Data), will be available free of charge. Details related to the logistics will be made available in due course. • There will be no interpretation provided for workshops. If interpretation is desired the workshop organizers are free to make their own arrangements in coordination with the IGF Secretariat. The organizers will be responsible for all associated costs. Content and format • They are two general workshop types: o Feeder workshops: will focus on the specific issues relevant to the Baku meeting themes and will act as leaders to the relevant main sessions. As was done in previous years in the relevant main sessions, the moderators of these sessions will call on the feeder workshop rapporteurs to relate the viewpoints expressed in the workshops. Each feeder workshop will be asked to assign a rapporteur whose role will include attending the relevant main session, giving a brief overview of the session's discussions and take part in a one hour round table session that will immediately proceed the main session on that topic. They should also be available to act as a resource to the moderators of the relevant main session. To the extent possible participants from the feeder workshops are also encouraged to attend the main sessions related to the feeder workshops in order to broaden the discussions on the sub-themes of the sessions. o Other workshops: Workshops on other topics of relevance to Internet Governance. (More details will be available in the draft programme paper.) • Workshops dealing with topics that are addressed in the main meeting will not be scheduled at the same time as the main meeting. • Workshops should explore a theme from different angles and different stakeholders' perspectives. Pure advocacy workshops will not be considered. • All workshops will be Webcast and have realtime transcription. • Workshops should respect the general format of meetings and should be structured to be interactive, allowing a large portion of their time for open discussion and interaction with meeting attendees, such as a Q&A session. They could include keynote presentations, moderated panels and discussions both from the floor and from remote participants. Workshops should be designed with the format that is most appropriate to the particular topic under discussion. Selection criteria • Relevance to the main themes and sub-themes. Priority will be given to proposals related to the main themes. • Demonstratively proposed or organized following the multi-stakeholder principle (e.g. at least three relevant stakeholder groups being represented in the organization of the workshop). • Capacity to improve understanding of the IGF themes and topics. • Proven experience, expertise and capacity to manage the staging of the workshop, including the raising of funds necessary to do so. • Timeliness, completeness and adherence to deadlines. • The provision of background papers. • Developing country support. • Gender balance. • Balance of speakers to participant discussion in the design of the workshop; that is, the degree of interaction planned. • Youth participation. • Suitability for remote participation, for example linkages to a hub event. • A name of a remote moderator is also required for each workshop. Template for submitting proposals An online form will be made available shortly for the submission of workshop proposals containing the following questions: Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall under? Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF workshop before? Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to various stakeholder groups.(Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Proposals should be between 200 - 1000 words. Reporting The organizers will be asked to prepare a short summary report of their workshop after the IGF annual meeting. A template for the report will be made available. 2012 Main sub theme questions http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/936-main-themes-questions The following are the main session questions proposed by the MAG: Emerging Issues Questions Question 1: What are the implications of the use of new technical and political instruments on the free flow of information, access to information, and with respect for human rights? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:Access to content, new models, common challenges for old and new media Low cost mobile access to the Internet Technical measures and use of intermediaries as instruments of law enforcement and intermediary safe harbors Question 2: What are acceptable and proportionate measures that offer Intellectual Property protection, yet allow for and respect individual users’ freedom to express themselves, to access and share content/culture, and to innovate and create? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Measures to protect intellectual property in balance with incentives for creativity and innovation Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television Legislative issues Creativity and human rights Innovation on the Internet The networked individual and expanded power of freedom Question 3: In what ways are new opportunities and challenges being created as the new Internet services and traditional media (such a broadcast TV and radio) are accessed through the ‘same screen’? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television User generated content: reliability and responsibility Low cost mobile access to the internet Question 4: To what extent do Internet based services offer new and radically different opportunities to help families, social groups, communities and broader structures in society organize and re-organize themselves when challenged by natural disaster or strife? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of; Internet and traditional media for disaster recovery and management Internet Governance for Disaster Reduction and Response – Best practice and possible collaboration framework Managing Critical Internet Resources Questions Question 1: What is the role and importance of IXPs in localizing content, including to ensure easier connectivity in cases of disasters? Question 2: How can IG policy choices ensure sustainability during natural disasters and recovery/relief efforts? Question 3: What IG choices, best practices and technical and policy challenges impact the migration of resources starting to run over IP, migration of resources? Question 4: What policy dialogues in international forums could impact these migrations? For example, what, if any, implications are there from the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) and its review of the International Telecommunications Regulations? What changes in this binding set of Treaty-level regulations could impact the future development of the Internet? Question 5: What new developments pose specific new policy and technical challenges? Introduction of new gTLDs, IPv4 and IPv6: Emerging IPv4 markets, and related governance issues relevant to market ideas/realties, Emergence of smart grids – what are best practices to enable an interconnected world? Question 6: With respect to multistakeholder accountability mechanisms, such as the AOC at ICANN, what are the results of such efforts, and what are the consequences for other CIR organizations? Questions for Feeder Workshops: What are the effects of jurisdiction and territoriality on the ongoing discussions about critical internet resource coordination? What is the relationship of the multi-stakeholder accountability mechanisms and the overall goal of enhanced cooperation? Security, Openness and Privacy Questions Question 1: What impact can security and governance issues have on the Internet and human rights? Question 2: Freedom of expression and free flow of information: how do legal framework, regulations, and principles impact this? What risks can Internet fragmentation pose to security, privacy and openness? What impact does cloud computing have on concerns over cybersecurity and cybercrime? Question 3: What risks do law enforcement, information suppression and surveillance have on security, privacy and openness and how can public and private sector cooperate to conform and observe human rights? Question 4: What measures can be taken to ensure freedom of expression, access to knowledge and privacy, including for children? What are challenges to protect freedom of expression online and what measures can be taken to better empower citizen’s access to information and participation in digital age? “Net Etiquette” and the roles and responsibilities of users as they relate to openness, privacy security? Question 5: What policies and practices that can assist in making the Internet an effective multistakeholder model to discuss national & regional issues and what best practices developing countries can benefit from. Access and Diversity Questions Question 1: What are the policy challenges around free flow of information, freedom of expression and human rights and the Internet as they relate to access? Question 2: What are the legal policy and regulatory choices including enabling environments that foster infrastructure investment, particularly for developing countries? Question 3: How is the increased demand for more bandwidth, lower costs of Internet access and revenue shifts affecting investment in broadband infrastructure and access networks? Question 4: What challenges do filtering, blocking and the diversity of national legal frameworks more generally pose to ensuring access and diversity? Question 5: Innovation and opportunities in spectrum technology and allocation---implications for access including mobile? Question 6: How can women be empowered in all dimensions of their life through access to the Internet and information? Question 7: How do language barriers impact access to the Internet? Question 8: What opportunities and challenges are presented by multilingualism? Question 9: Mobile access: what it takes to create opportunities for entrepreneurs, youth and developing country stakeholders? Internet Governance for Development Questions IG4D Thematic Cluster 1 "Pending Expansion of the Top Level Domain Space" Question 1:How do various actors in the developing world--governments, industry groupings, the technical community, civil society-perceive the relative costs and benefits of expanding the domain name space; Are there any issues on which greater clarification and mutual understanding would be helpful? Question 2: What kinds of support may be required to help communities, NGOs and businesses from the developing world to participate in the gTLD process? How do we we see the structure of the global market for registry and registrar services evolving in the years ahead?" IG4D Thematic Cluster 2 "Enabling Environment" Question 1: What does it take to attract investment in infrastructure and encourage innovation and growth of ICT services, including mobile technology and how can these technologies best be employed to address development challenges? Question 2: What does it take in terms of IG policy, legal and regulatory approaches? What are the challenges to and opportunities for participation of stakeholders from developing countries with a special focus on increasing participation by youth and women participation in IG from Least Developed Countries? IG4D Thematic Cluster 3 - "Infrastructure" Question 1: What are the key concerns regarding Internet infrastructure from developing countries' experiences and how can new technologies and the Global Internet Governance mechanisms address limitations, offer opportunities and enable development? Taking Stock and the Way Forward In the past year there has been a spate of declarations by various governments and intergovernmental groups that proposed guiding governance principles for various aspects of the Internet's development and use. Examples include, inter alia, the revised ITRs (ITU); the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (India); the International Code of Conduct for Information Security (China, Russia, Tajikistan Uzbekistan); 15 principles on policy making to be transferred into "guidelines" (OECD); the Internet Governance Declaration's 10 principles (CoE); the Deauville Declaration's 6 principles(Group of 8); the Tbilisi Declaration (OSCE), the Cybersecurity Principles (NATO); the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee 10 Principles, and the Draft Code of Ethics for the Information Society (UNESCO). Main Question: To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on guiding principles? Question 1: How are the rules for the Internet set? Question 2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? Question 3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through discussions successive IGFs. Question 4: To what extent do these principles raise distinctive implications and relevance to the world's population? Question 5: What are the prospects for the various countries embracing and implementing such principles or such harmonization of principles? -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm Wed Mar 28 16:18:03 2012 From: carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm (SAMUELS,Carlton A) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:18:03 -0500 Subject: [governance] IGF12-Baku / Call for Workshop Proposals / April 12 Deadline (15 days and counting) In-Reply-To: <1A74EB9E-6EEE-450D-B99C-F7BE61837983@privaterra.org> References: <1A74EB9E-6EEE-450D-B99C-F7BE61837983@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <39D05A5FD7C1334DA749CCFCE8538F872585D174E6@xchg1.uwimona.edu.jm> Thanks for this Robert. Maybe we could get some further clarity on the IG4D thematic cluster "Pending Expansion of the Top Level Domain Space". It seems to me that questions that laser on matters of address pool expansion (IPv4 vs IPv6), effective participation of developing economies in the expanded Internet economy this telegraphs, the policy dialogue framework (multistakeholderism ala ICANN, AoC vs Treaty ala ITU) and such might be added there for good effect. - Carlton ________________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra [rguerra at privaterra.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:49 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] IGF12-Baku / Call for Workshop Proposals / April 12 Deadline (15 days and counting) A 2nd reminder that stakeholders wishing to hold workshops at the 2012 IGF Annual meeting in Baku are encouraged to submit proposals using the online workshop submission form. The deadline for submission is 12 April 2012 - some 14 days (2 weeks) from now. http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 Workshops 2012 We are now accepting workshop proposals for the 2012 IGF Annual Meeting in Baku. The workshops will be held generally in parallel to the Main Sessions. Organizers of workshops are asked to present their proposals making use of the template posted below. Proposals should respect the organizational principles and criteria for the selection of workshops. The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) will assess the proposals. The final schedule will be determined in light of the number of proposals submitted. Organizational Principles • The guiding organizational principle for holding workshops is the multi-stakeholder approach. Geographical diversity is an equally relevant factor. • All proposals fulfilling the selection criteria and using the template will be posted on the IGF Web site. • Proposals should preferably be submitted in English. 12 April 2012 is set as the deadline for submitting proposals. • The rooms reserved for workshops and all equipment, including a screen and a PC or laptop for projections and a projector (XGA/SVGA Data), will be available free of charge. Details related to the logistics will be made available in due course. • There will be no interpretation provided for workshops. If interpretation is desired the workshop organizers are free to make their own arrangements in coordination with the IGF Secretariat. The organizers will be responsible for all associated costs. Content and format • They are two general workshop types: o Feeder workshops: will focus on the specific issues relevant to the Baku meeting themes and will act as leaders to the relevant main sessions. As was done in previous years in the relevant main sessions, the moderators of these sessions will call on the feeder workshop rapporteurs to relate the viewpoints expressed in the workshops. Each feeder workshop will be asked to assign a rapporteur whose role will include attending the relevant main session, giving a brief overview of the session's discussions and take part in a one hour round table session that will immediately proceed the main session on that topic. They should also be available to act as a resource to the moderators of the relevant main session. To the extent possible participants from the feeder workshops are also encouraged to attend the main sessions related to the feeder workshops in order to broaden the discussions on the sub-themes of the sessions. o Other workshops: Workshops on other topics of relevance to Internet Governance. (More details will be available in the draft programme paper.) • Workshops dealing with topics that are addressed in the main meeting will not be scheduled at the same time as the main meeting. • Workshops should explore a theme from different angles and different stakeholders' perspectives. Pure advocacy workshops will not be considered. • All workshops will be Webcast and have realtime transcription. • Workshops should respect the general format of meetings and should be structured to be interactive, allowing a large portion of their time for open discussion and interaction with meeting attendees, such as a Q&A session. They could include keynote presentations, moderated panels and discussions both from the floor and from remote participants. Workshops should be designed with the format that is most appropriate to the particular topic under discussion. Selection criteria • Relevance to the main themes and sub-themes. Priority will be given to proposals related to the main themes. • Demonstratively proposed or organized following the multi-stakeholder principle (e.g. at least three relevant stakeholder groups being represented in the organization of the workshop). • Capacity to improve understanding of the IGF themes and topics. • Proven experience, expertise and capacity to manage the staging of the workshop, including the raising of funds necessary to do so. • Timeliness, completeness and adherence to deadlines. • The provision of background papers. • Developing country support. • Gender balance. • Balance of speakers to participant discussion in the design of the workshop; that is, the degree of interaction planned. • Youth participation. • Suitability for remote participation, for example linkages to a hub event. • A name of a remote moderator is also required for each workshop. Template for submitting proposals An online form will be made available shortly for the submission of workshop proposals containing the following questions: Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall under? Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF workshop before? Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to various stakeholder groups.(Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Proposals should be between 200 - 1000 words. Reporting The organizers will be asked to prepare a short summary report of their workshop after the IGF annual meeting. A template for the report will be made available. 2012 Main sub theme questions http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/936-main-themes-questions The following are the main session questions proposed by the MAG: Emerging Issues Questions Question 1: What are the implications of the use of new technical and political instruments on the free flow of information, access to information, and with respect for human rights? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:Access to content, new models, common challenges for old and new media Low cost mobile access to the Internet Technical measures and use of intermediaries as instruments of law enforcement and intermediary safe harbors Question 2: What are acceptable and proportionate measures that offer Intellectual Property protection, yet allow for and respect individual users’ freedom to express themselves, to access and share content/culture, and to innovate and create? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Measures to protect intellectual property in balance with incentives for creativity and innovation Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television Legislative issues Creativity and human rights Innovation on the Internet The networked individual and expanded power of freedom Question 3: In what ways are new opportunities and challenges being created as the new Internet services and traditional media (such a broadcast TV and radio) are accessed through the ‘same screen’? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television User generated content: reliability and responsibility Low cost mobile access to the internet Question 4: To what extent do Internet based services offer new and radically different opportunities to help families, social groups, communities and broader structures in society organize and re-organize themselves when challenged by natural disaster or strife? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of; Internet and traditional media for disaster recovery and management Internet Governance for Disaster Reduction and Response – Best practice and possible collaboration framework Managing Critical Internet Resources Questions Question 1: What is the role and importance of IXPs in localizing content, including to ensure easier connectivity in cases of disasters? Question 2: How can IG policy choices ensure sustainability during natural disasters and recovery/relief efforts? Question 3: What IG choices, best practices and technical and policy challenges impact the migration of resources starting to run over IP, migration of resources? Question 4: What policy dialogues in international forums could impact these migrations? For example, what, if any, implications are there from the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) and its review of the International Telecommunications Regulations? What changes in this binding set of Treaty-level regulations could impact the future development of the Internet? Question 5: What new developments pose specific new policy and technical challenges? Introduction of new gTLDs, IPv4 and IPv6: Emerging IPv4 markets, and related governance issues relevant to market ideas/realties, Emergence of smart grids – what are best practices to enable an interconnected world? Question 6: With respect to multistakeholder accountability mechanisms, such as the AOC at ICANN, what are the results of such efforts, and what are the consequences for other CIR organizations? Questions for Feeder Workshops: What are the effects of jurisdiction and territoriality on the ongoing discussions about critical internet resource coordination? What is the relationship of the multi-stakeholder accountability mechanisms and the overall goal of enhanced cooperation? Security, Openness and Privacy Questions Question 1: What impact can security and governance issues have on the Internet and human rights? Question 2: Freedom of expression and free flow of information: how do legal framework, regulations, and principles impact this? What risks can Internet fragmentation pose to security, privacy and openness? What impact does cloud computing have on concerns over cybersecurity and cybercrime? Question 3: What risks do law enforcement, information suppression and surveillance have on security, privacy and openness and how can public and private sector cooperate to conform and observe human rights? Question 4: What measures can be taken to ensure freedom of expression, access to knowledge and privacy, including for children? What are challenges to protect freedom of expression online and what measures can be taken to better empower citizen’s access to information and participation in digital age? “Net Etiquette” and the roles and responsibilities of users as they relate to openness, privacy security? Question 5: What policies and practices that can assist in making the Internet an effective multistakeholder model to discuss national & regional issues and what best practices developing countries can benefit from. Access and Diversity Questions Question 1: What are the policy challenges around free flow of information, freedom of expression and human rights and the Internet as they relate to access? Question 2: What are the legal policy and regulatory choices including enabling environments that foster infrastructure investment, particularly for developing countries? Question 3: How is the increased demand for more bandwidth, lower costs of Internet access and revenue shifts affecting investment in broadband infrastructure and access networks? Question 4: What challenges do filtering, blocking and the diversity of national legal frameworks more generally pose to ensuring access and diversity? Question 5: Innovation and opportunities in spectrum technology and allocation---implications for access including mobile? Question 6: How can women be empowered in all dimensions of their life through access to the Internet and information? Question 7: How do language barriers impact access to the Internet? Question 8: What opportunities and challenges are presented by multilingualism? Question 9: Mobile access: what it takes to create opportunities for entrepreneurs, youth and developing country stakeholders? Internet Governance for Development Questions IG4D Thematic Cluster 1 "Pending Expansion of the Top Level Domain Space" Question 1:How do various actors in the developing world--governments, industry groupings, the technical community, civil society-perceive the relative costs and benefits of expanding the domain name space; Are there any issues on which greater clarification and mutual understanding would be helpful? Question 2: What kinds of support may be required to help communities, NGOs and businesses from the developing world to participate in the gTLD process? How do we we see the structure of the global market for registry and registrar services evolving in the years ahead?" IG4D Thematic Cluster 2 "Enabling Environment" Question 1: What does it take to attract investment in infrastructure and encourage innovation and growth of ICT services, including mobile technology and how can these technologies best be employed to address development challenges? Question 2: What does it take in terms of IG policy, legal and regulatory approaches? What are the challenges to and opportunities for participation of stakeholders from developing countries with a special focus on increasing participation by youth and women participation in IG from Least Developed Countries? IG4D Thematic Cluster 3 - "Infrastructure" Question 1: What are the key concerns regarding Internet infrastructure from developing countries' experiences and how can new technologies and the Global Internet Governance mechanisms address limitations, offer opportunities and enable development? Taking Stock and the Way Forward In the past year there has been a spate of declarations by various governments and intergovernmental groups that proposed guiding governance principles for various aspects of the Internet's development and use. Examples include, inter alia, the revised ITRs (ITU); the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (India); the International Code of Conduct for Information Security (China, Russia, Tajikistan Uzbekistan); 15 principles on policy making to be transferred into "guidelines" (OECD); the Internet Governance Declaration's 10 principles (CoE); the Deauville Declaration's 6 principles(Group of 8); the Tbilisi Declaration (OSCE), the Cybersecurity Principles (NATO); the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee 10 Principles, and the Draft Code of Ethics for the Information Society (UNESCO). Main Question: To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on guiding principles? Question 1: How are the rules for the Internet set? Question 2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? Question 3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through discussions successive IGFs. Question 4: To what extent do these principles raise distinctive implications and relevance to the world's population? Question 5: What are the prospects for the various countries embracing and implementing such principles or such harmonization of principles? -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 08:07:09 2012 From: ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com (Narine Khachatryan) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:37:09 +0430 Subject: [governance] EC proposed to establish a European cyber-crime centre Message-ID: Dear all, For your information here is the link to the EC press release on the proposal of establishing a cyber-crime centre which will co-ordinate Europe's fight against online crimes. The European Commission proposed on March 28, 2012 to establish a European Cybercrime Centre within the European Police Office, Europol in The Hague (The Netherlands). The centre will be the European focal point in fighting cybercrime and will focus on illegal online activities carried out by organised crime groups, particularly those generating large criminal profits, such as online fraud involving credit cards and bank credentials. The EU experts will also work on preventing cybercrimes affecting e-banking and online booking activities, thus increasing e-consumers trust. A focus of the European Cybercrime Centre will be to protect social network profiles from e-crime infiltration and will help the fight against online identity theft. It will also focus on cybercrimes which cause serious harm to their victims, such as online child sexual exploitation and cyber-attacks affecting critical infrastructure and information systems in the Union. http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/12/317&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en -- Narine Khachatryan Media Education Center Yerevan, Armenia http://www.safe.am/ http://www.mediaeducation.am/ http://www.immasin.am -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 11:55:49 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:55:49 -0400 Subject: [governance] FW: [A2k] G. Moody: Euro Commission Blames Social Networks For ACTAFailure Message-ID: <99DF71AC56A849DABA8B24058074C2F2@UserVAIO> -----Original Message----- From: a2k-bounces at lists.keionline.org [mailto:a2k-bounces at lists.keionline.org] On Behalf Of Manon Ress Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:09 PM To: a2k discuss list Subject: [A2k] G. Moody: Euro Commission Blames Social Networks For ACTAFailure In Techdirt http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120312/09321618075/european-commission-bl ames-social-networks-acta-failure-worried-about-its-imminent-directive-copyr ight-enforcement.shtml by Glyn Moody Tue, Mar 13th 2012 4:12am European Commission Blames Social Networks For ACTA Failure; Worried About Its Imminent Directive On Copyright Enforcement from the still-not-listening dept Now that the EU's ratification of ACTA has departed from the original script of everyone just waving it through, the European Commission is clearly trying to come up with Plan B. Some insights into its thinking can be gained from the minutes (pdf) of a recent Commission meeting, pointed out to us by André Rebentisch. Here's what the President of the European Commission, José Manuel Barroso, said about ACTA: The President introduced the topic, commenting on the intensity and scale of the public debate and the organised campaign against the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). There were those in particular who felt that the agreement would lead specifically to an unwarranted restriction on freedom of expression and democracy on the Internet, and would distort the reasonable balance between intellectual property rights and other fundamental rights. He therefore felt that the Court of Justice of the European Union should be asked to confirm the Commission’s position in this matter, namely that ACTA was consistent and compatible with the Treaties and with the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union. He suggested that that day’s discussion should consider that point, but also the question of when would be an appropriate time to refer the matter to the Court, and the possibility of consulting Parliament and the Council with a view to adopting a common approach in this matter. The suggestion that the anger over ACTA was somehow part of an "organised campaign" looks like a continuing failure to grasp that the protests were about all Internet users across Europe coming together to defend their online community. As for the "common approach" with the European Parliament, it's easy to see why the European Commission would want this: it would allow the referral of ACTA to the European Court of Justice to be framed in such a way as to increase the likelihood of a positive response from the court. It will be interesting to see whether the European Parliament acquiesces in this, or continues to take a hard line on the need for more searching questions to be asked. Barroso's comments were followed by some observations from Karel De Gucht, the European Commissioner with direct responsibility for ACTA, who made some revealing remarks: He noted that opposition had increased in the run-up to January’s planned vote in the US Congress on two legislative initiatives -- the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA) -- aimed at increasing the protection of intellectual property rights on the Internet; in the end the vote had not been held, following a hostile campaign by social networks and the loss of White House support. It's interesting to see De Gucht linking the growing hostility to ACTA with the storm generated by SOPA/PIPA, and giving the credit for stopping those US bills to a "hostile campaign" waged by social networks. You can tell this really worries him, because he says something similar about social networks and ACTA immediately afterwards: Despite the signature of ACTA in January by the Commission, the Union Presidency and twenty-one other Member States, the intense media campaign which was unleashed in Europe, instigated largely by the social networks, had since led a number of Union Heads of State or Government to decide to delay signature or ratification of the agreement by their national parliaments. He added that the campaign had also had a considerable influence on Members of the European Parliament and, following recent contacts with various political groups, he now felt it would be difficult to muster a majority in favour of ACTA within the EP. What's extraordinary is that no less than three other commissioners also spoke at the meeting about the importance of social networks, and the need to grapple with them. Viviane Reding: She concluded by highlighting the rising influence of social networks on the Internet and the need for the Commission to take account of this in its communication policy and in dealing with various dossiers. Instructions had already been given to the communication units in the Directorates-General. Neelie Kroes: She concluded by stressing the need for appropriate communication on the agreement, without waiting for the Court’s opinion, targeted particularly at the various stakeholders involved and social networks. Michel Barnier: was also of the opinion that the key role of social networks in public debate in Europe forced the Commission to think carefully about adapting some of its means of communication and that Members should discuss the matter as soon possible. What emerges very clearly from this is that the most senior politicians in the European Union are completely nonplussed by the power of social networks to mobilize not just Net activists but ordinary Internet users, and are struggling to deal with it. I think we can expect to see attempts to neutralize that new force by "reaching out" to social networks in a variety of ways in the coming months. One area where that will clearly happen is for the forthcoming update on the EU's "IPR Enforcement Directive", generally known as IPRED. The Commission meeting referred to it explicitly: As regards the planned revision of the 2004 Directive on enforcement of intellectual property rights, the Commission needed to adopt a prudent and balanced approach to this politically delicate exercise, and take account of existing texts on the protection of data and privacy in the areas of telecoms and fundamental rights. The EC knows that it must be very careful here, because the measures already mooted for the next version of IPRED are very close to some of SOPA's bad ideas -- for example, turning ISPs into copyright cops. The European Commission has observed what happened in the US, and is clearly very concerned that the IPRED update will meet the same opposition from those mysterious, uncontrollable social networks as SOPA/PIPA did and ACTA is now doing. Follow me @glynmoody on Twitter or identi.ca, and on Google+ -- Manon Anne Ress Knowledge Ecology International 1621 Connecticut Ave, NW, Suite 500 Washington, DC 20009 USA http://www.keionline.org manon.ress at keionline.org _______________________________________________ A2k mailing list A2k at lists.keionline.org http://lists.keionline.org/mailman/listinfo/a2k_lists.keionline.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 17:57:13 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. 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