[governance] Re: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?

Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzmeyer at internatif.org
Tue Jun 26 06:54:34 EDT 2012


On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:28:25AM +0200,
 Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com> wrote 
 a message of 164 lines which said:

> In addition, there are applications using the previous
> facility. They may or may not use domain names instead of IP
> addresses.

All applications do (ping and traceroute do not count), at least in
the normal usage. Simple experiment: shut down your DNS resolver for a
while and see what works. Bonus: do it with unsuspecting users and
measure how long it takes before they complain.

By the way, this is precisely why the problem of unilateral control of
the root by the US governement is a problem: DNS is actually important.

> Unless your mailer or ISP does not conform to RFC 2822, you can mail
> to:

RFC 822, which is even older, said quite clearly "THE USE OF
DOMAIN-LITERALS IS STRONGLY DISCOURAGED.  It is  permitted  only  as
a means of bypassing temporary system limitations, such as name tables
which are not complete."

> *pouzin@[137.194.2.14]*

% telnet 137.194.2.14 smtp
Trying 137.194.2.14...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host

The router site-G06-odeon.rap.prd.fr (195.221.127.186) sends back an
ICMP "unreachable - admin prohibited". You did not notice there was no
longer any incoming email?

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