[governance] [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Mon Jun 25 07:16:41 EDT 2012



On Monday 25 June 2012 03:02 PM, c.a. wrote:
> David, the only relevant "RFC" in the .iq case was a determination from the USG for Icann to suspend the domain.
>    

In the circumstances, David, I dont know how you , and others, have been 
insisting that such kind of a thing has never ever happened, and 
therefore we need no protection against.

This is the worst possible transgression, and abuse, of the oversight 
authority by the US. What greater damning example do you need. parminder

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> On 25/06/2012, at 01:01, David Conrad<drc at virtualized.org>  wrote:
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>> Louis,
>>
>> While this was before my time at ICANN, my understanding is that the USG (or its policies) had no role in the delays relating to redelegation.  Rather, there is a long standing (and quite controversial) policy within ICANN/IANA that goes back to RFC 1591 that dictates that any change of control of a TLD must be demonstrated to be in the best interests of "the Internet community" (not necessarily the government) of the country/territory.  In the .IQ case, ICANN (not the USG) was unable to determine whether the change was in the country's "Internet community's" best interest.  In such cases, the policy dictates that the best course of action is to not make any changes until the situation stabilized in Iraq enough to establish the wishes of "the Internet community".
>>
>> This policy is one of the most problematic for IANA staff to implement for obvious reasons (e.g., what does "the Internet community" mean and how do you measure its best interests), but it does not reflect USG intercession on the redelegation.
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>> Regards,
>> -drc
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:
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>>> English translation:
>>>
>>> « Iraq gets back its domain name .Iq
>>>
>>> by the editor, ZDNet France. Published Monday, August 8, 2005
>>> Tags: Internet, Politics, Domain Names,
>>>
>>> - ICANN has just returned to Iraq the management of its domain name - the ".Iq". The international body responsible for regulating the domain name system (DNS) has entrusted the task to the National Iraqi Communications and Media Commission (NCMC).
>>>
>>> The [Irak] government organization claimed .Iq for more than a year, but Icann believed the country too unstable to do it. It validated the request at a recent meeting, saying "acting in the best interest of local and global Internet communities."
>>>
>>> Since 1997 .Iq belonged to the Texas company InfoCom, which was responsible for its management until 2002. Date on which ICANN suspended the domain name, after several company executives were suspected of having links with Hamas, considered a terrorist organization by U.S. authorities.
>>>
>>> The management change will allow the Iraqi government to standardize its e-mail and web addresses. »
>>>
>>> Louis
>>>
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