[governance] RE: FW: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?

[Riaz K Tayob]

Parminder

Once again you storm the ramparts to be beaten back variously by 
arguments for "US exceptionalism", effectiveness over legitimacy, 
multistakeholderism, anti-UN (world government, entrée John Boltonites) 
and a preference for reform over anything more "radical".

It would not be a problem if your seemingly "radical" views (which are 
rather mainstream if one takes the legitimacy issue seriously) were 
engaged with on its own terms instead of posturing that passes for 
analysis. It would be wonderful to see more people on this list taking 
the reform position as tactically necessary for the strategic goal of a 
legitimate internet governance for all, but in my cursory review except 
for one reformist-multistakeholderist this seems not to be the case.

This is such a pity since it adopts a forlorn approach to internet 
governance and flies in the face of all the measures even ICANN has 
taken in response to crits on its legitimacy. It seems like some 
contributors to this list seek to be more Catholic than the Pope!

Keep up the good work on this list which imho is a rather hostile 
environment for these types of views. Perhaps especially for those who 
hold to US exceptionalism even with the horrible Patriot Act you could 
suggest a hegemonic role without the necessity for such an act. But then 
you would not only be unproductive and contrary but an idealist too... 
what a complex bind...

Peace

Riaz


On 2012/06/18 10:57 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:
> Better than continuing to build these pipe dreams, many of us have found it far more productive, as well as a learning experience for all, to get started solving what we can with a broader outlook for its impact on problems we can't solve yet.




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