[governance] "Oversight"

[Avri Doria]

Bill,

I did not say it was the GAC that was contacted, though various members were.  They are not the competition authorities. 

As for my answer not being good enough for Perry, oh well guess i will have to live with that. I was not the one who checked and my partners in the proposal would be the ones who have the specifics, but somehow Perry's way of putting it does not motivate me to go check. On the other hand, I do remember that we made our proposal some of the competion authorities consulted said they could not do things in the time frames we wanted (we included a step in the application process if I remember correctly).  But this requirement was left out of the Board's decsion (in fact the Board never admitted any relationship between our proposal and their decsion - they took all of the cruft from the VI group and then decided appropriately)  I also rembered that I wasn't as concerned about this as my co-authors as I figure anti-competative bahavior was their job and if there were complaints, they would deal with thm. 

In any case, very few of the Registries or Registrars have controlling market share on the international stage, maybe one of each, so the point is rather moot.  And on the national stage, many ccTLDs may have controling market share (I dont know but it seems possible - if anyone does, they do), but that is not what we are talking about.

avri


William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Maybe I'm misunderstanding Avri's account of their satisfaction level. 
>My recollection that the USG and EC both provided paper saying the
>competition implications hadn't been worked through satisfactorily and
>the existing VI prohibitions should be maintained. They and the UK made
>the same arguments at the famous GAC/Board meeting in Singapore (where
>the EC rep deftly suggested, with respect to trademarks, that it was a
>'discussion between the deaf and the stupid'…?)
>
>Not saying I disagree with the board's decision, but simply that the
>GAC wasn't overjoyed.  Actually, the board's disagreement was a good
>affirmation of the model…
>
>Bill
>
>On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>> In message <d9e94c0d-9d56-4df1-9121-e8ff95278dc4 at email.android.com>,
>at 19:28:00 on Sun, 17 Jun 2012, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> writes
>>>> First of all I would like to know from the people more
>>>> closely involved, which competition authorities did ICANN talk to.
>I
>>>> take it to be US government's because I know of no international
>level
>>>> competition authority
>>> 
>>> I remember that several countries competition authorites were spoken
>to.  I would have to go through records, which I am not inclined to do
>>> right now, to get the names of those countries.  The US was
>certainly among them, but there were others. .
>> 
>> This is not an answer to the question (or even a guess) but if anyone
>talks to the competition authorities in both Washington and Brussels
>(for the EU) then they've covered (by various economic measures) 2/3 of
>the world.
>> 
>> If both of those think it's OK, and both are hard to please, then the
>proposal is probably OK.
>> -- 
>> Roland Perry
>> 
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