[governance] ITU - summary of draft ITRs to date

[Milton L Mueller]

> -----Original Message-----
>
> >Now if that passes, do you think the presence or absence of that
> provision in a treaty will have any impact whatsoever on the stability,
> >security of the Internet, the level of spam, or the privacy and FoE
> rights of Internet users? Do you think that the complex trade-offs
> between freedom of expression, privacy, and fighting cybercrime that have to be
> operationalized in the real world by ISPs, users and states are
> >affected in any significant way by that?
> 
> I do, because one the main planks of the ITU's ambition is to be tasked
> with sorting out Cybercrime, and that will at the very least mean an
> ITU-inspired clone of the Budapest Convention (as a proposal for
> adoption by non-Budapest nations).
> 
> That might well affect the rights of Internet users in those counties,
> if it doesn't come with the safeguards enshrined in ratifying Budapest
> (briefly: that you also have to match the ECHR as well).

> As for Spam, I think their solution might be universal end-to-end
> authenticated email, and that's a whole can of worms.

[Milton L Mueller] Roland, the more you talk about this issue, the more you raise questions about how much you know about it.

First, can you tell me (this _is_ a rhetorical question) what is the difference between the "safeguards" in ratifying Budapest and those in ratifying an ITU treaty? 

Because there aren't any. They are both international treaties formulated by intergovernmental organizations, with the exception that ITU is more universal in its membership than the Council of Europe, and thus more likely to fail to achieve consensus. 

And as for universal end-to-end email, you made me laugh out loud. If you believe that ITU, which has no serious leverage over the world's software developers, DNS providers or email operators, can magically make something happen that every other vendor who has tried, including Microsoft, has failed to do, then you attribute tremendous, almost magical powers to the ITU. Which shows how little you know about it. 


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