[governance] Re: ITU consultation and open access => IGF working groups

Fouad Bajwa fouadbajwa at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 01:48:56 EDT 2012


Hi Bill,

First of all I would Iike to share your concerns having been through the
puddle of similar bumpy rides. My reason to incline towards exploring how
the ICANN governance model functioned was partly  encouraged by  an
incident that took place on the closed MAG list.

I had proposed a similar DC on Accountability and Transparency or more
closely to the AoC inspired approach (but multistakelder led) of such
International bodies. This happened after the EURODIG in Geneva and I was
both bashed on the list and threatened offline by a MAG colleague from a
different stakeholder group that such international bodies could hurt me
and I was blindly following western CS agenda and this would never be my
country's position. Interestingly everyone that bashed the idea were from
the same stakeholder group....well anyways...

Simply said, having been part of the IG4D exercise and from what I shared
above and as you detailed, such a dynamic coalition is necessary but the
participation in it has to be monitored to exclude discriminating and
threatening individuals that are trying to play as if they've got
everything under control and in their grip, especially a number of them
from my region.

Anyways, I am in support of this DC proposal.

Fouad Bajwa
On Jul 15, 2012 7:00 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>
>
> Great idea.
>
> We sort f did it in WGIG.  It would be a great recurring exercise for the
> IGF.
>
> As for Dynamic Coalitions, do they work, or do we need some new mechanisms?
>
> On 14 Jul 2012, at 12:41, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
>
> During the WGIG time some academics - as Alejandro will remember - started
> to call for a general becnhmnarking of all - intergovernmental and
> international - organisations according to criteria like openess,
> transparency, legitimacy, accountability, membership, acess, diversity,
> bottom up PDP etc. The analysis was never done. Would be a good subject for
> Baku or a new "Dynamic Coalition on Transparency and Accountybility of
> International Internet Organisations".
>
>
>
> In 2006 I proposed a working group on this consistent with the TA mandate
> that IGF "Promote and assess, on an ongoing basis, the embodiment of WSIS
> principles in Internet Governance processes."  I was told in no uncertain
> terms that this was doubly a non-starter, since a) working groups are a
> radioactive construct that necessarily implies heavy UN bureaucratic
> machinery and negotiated outcomes (hence the subsequent DC construct as an
> anodyne alternative); and b) no private sector, multistakeholder, or
> intergovernmental institution/process involved in global IG would be happy
> to have outsiders in the IGF assessing what it does.  Some subsequent
> beating of the drum and the APC-UNECE-COE effort to devise a code of good
> practice http://www.apc.org/en/node/9507/ ultimately led to a Main
> Session on the WSIS principles in Sharm, at which org reps each got up to
> say that they fully embody the WSIS principles, full stop.  That session
> was deemed by some to have been less than successful and was hence dropped
> rather than added into the standard MS rotation like IG4D.
>
> Things have moved on since then and one could argue that it is now time to
> make a serious effort to put working groups back on the table.  I know this
> didn't get consensus in the WGIGF but CS could nevertheless flesh out the
> case for WGs as flexibly configured non-bureaucratic processes that would
> study and report views (including divergent ones) on pressing issues on
> which progress cannot be achieved via DCs, particularly in light of
> generally limited governmental/IO participation.  My top candidates for WGs
> would be:
>
> *Enhanced Cooperation, per some of the May CSTD interventions, including
> APC's
> http://www.apc.org/en/news/enhancing-cooperation-among-stakeholders-internet (much
> more likely to attract governments etc. than something under IETF, which
> carries additional internal burdens)
>
> *Embodiment of the WSIS principles in global IG processes/"openess,
> transparency, legitimacy, accountability, membership, acess, diversity,
> bottom up PDP "
>
> *IG4D (a similar cross-cutting criteria-based exercise, e.g. as proposed
> in my chapter in the Sharm book
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/images/2010/book/igf.sharm.book.final.pdf )
>
> Putting the WG construct back on the table for discussion in the MAG and
> beyond (including at the IGC's Baku workshop) would be a concrete and
> useful contribution.  Do others here dis/agree?  If the latter, would
> anyone be willing to collaborate on a text of 3-5 pages laying out the
> rationale?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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