[governance] Re: [nomcom] Re: APC's Application
Carlos A. Afonso
ca at cafonso.ca
Thu Feb 23 06:20:15 EST 2012
Frankly, Adam, this is ridiculous. Please do recognize the shortcomings of this nomination process. BTW, we (APC) know who we are.
frt rgds
--c.a.
sent from a dumbphone
On 23/02/2012, at 05:31, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> Does APC support the IGF NomCom's selections or is this a one-way
> street? APC is an important organization, its members have
> contributed enormously to the IGF (and WSIS and WGIG etc.) but it
> isn't the only cs player in this space.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>> Sala,
>>
>> It’s not improper for the IGC to support nominees submitted by other
>> organisations, or positions advocated by other organisations. The Nomcom is
>> only responsible for submitting and deciding on IGC nominees – I am not
>> suggesting at all that we change that or add additional names to IGC
>> nominations. I agree that would be improper. However I don’t see why we
>> shouldn’t express support for nominees of other organisations.
>>
>> The only reason we are discussing this at all is because of some sort of
>> administrative stuff up that I don’t understand yet. I appreciate that the
>> Nomcom has attempted to make amends at the last moment but the simple fact
>> is that due to some process issue some very good names were not considered.
>>
>> Those good names of civil society people have been forwarded anyway. I think
>> it is proper to indicate to the powers that be that we are supportive of
>> those names being considered in addition to those IGC submitted,
>> particularly in the circumstance where the number of names submitted by IGC
>> is less than the number of vacancies that are out there to be filled.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:11:43 +1200
>> To: Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>> Cc: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, Thomas Lowenhaupt
>> <toml at communisphere.com>, Valeria Betancourt <valeriab at apc.org>,
>> <nomcom at lists.igcaucus.org>, Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>,
>> shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>, Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: [nomcom] Re: APC's Application
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> The selection is purely something for the NomCom to do without interference
>> from any of us. Hence the decision to review or add names must be their
>> decision solely and this is to preserve some level of independence. Once the
>> NomCom makes the selection, the recommendations are then put forward by the
>> IGC through the coordinators the Secretariat. In this case, one of the
>> Coordinators is a nominee nad has recused himself from dealing with this
>> administrative issue.
>>
>> For the IGC to indicate to the Secretariat support of APC's list of Nominees
>> would be improper unless the APC list was within the basket of nominees that
>> they were considering and decide on their own accord that they accept the
>> candidates and list them with other nominees. In this instance, APC has
>> withdrawn its list of candidates from the NomCom and the NomCom should only
>> review the list of candidates within its current basket.
>>
>> Yes I agree that when the air is clearer, we can then discuss ways we can
>> improve the processes etc.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> As a quick way to deal with this, can the coordinators write to the relevant
>> UN authority and express that, in addition to the names submitted, IGC is
>> also supportive of the names submitted by APC? I think most people on this
>> list would support such an action.
>>
>> (When the air is clearer I think there are a few things we need to learn
>> from the issues that arose with this years Nomcom and a few matters that
>> need further clarification. But for now, it would be good if IGC expressed
>> support for the APC nominees. That’s an IGC decision, not a Nomcom one, and
>> may be our easiest path forward in the circumstances.)
>>
>>
>> Ian Peter
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml at communisphere.com
>> <http://toml@communisphere.com> >
>> Reply-To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>> <http://governance@lists.igcaucus.org> >, Thomas Lowenhaupt
>> <toml at communisphere.com <http://toml@communisphere.com> >
>>
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:41:52 -0500
>> To: Valeria Betancourt <valeriab at apc.org <http://valeriab@apc.org> >
>> Cc: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
>> <http://salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> >, <nomcom at lists.igcaucus.org
>> <http://nomcom@lists.igcaucus.org> >, Jacqueline Morris
>> <jam at jacquelinemorris.com <http://jam@jacquelinemorris.com> >, shaila mistry
>> <shailam at yahoo.com <http://shailam@yahoo.com> >, Anriette Esterhuysen
>> <anriette at apc.org <http://anriette@apc.org> >,
>> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org <http://governance@lists.igcaucus.org> >
>>
>> Subject: [governance] Re: [nomcom] Re: APC's Application
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> The NomCom has been discussing adding APC names to the list to be
>> submitted, and not subtracting those whom we had already selected, agreeing
>> this would be unkind and unfair.
>>
>> If this agreeable, let us know.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Tom Lowenhaupt
>>
>> On 2/22/2012 10:28 AM, Valeria Betancourt wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Sala and members of the IGC NomCom,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Given that APC's nominations for the MAG has been forwarded for the IGC
>> NomCom for consideration, we would like to express that while we regret that
>> the NomCom did not consider the names submitted by the APC in the first
>> phase of the process, we would rather not have the process reopened as this
>> is not fair to the current list of nominees. We have submitted our names
>> directly to the Secretariat. We do hope that the IGC can clarify its
>> procedures in the future.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Valeria
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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