[governance] Re: Survey Results Out [IGC Consultations]

Mon Feb 20 05:04:44 EST 2012

Thanks Imran. As promised your comments on the Charter review has been
forwarded to Jeremy who is part of the Charter Review.

Have a great day!
Sala

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Sala,
> With reference to following suggestions for which (I think) you have tried
> to convince me about existence of the provisioning of time relaxation etc...
> I did not mentioned any single instance or case. So, there was no needed to
> explain.
>
> I submitted these suggestions to follow onward by the IGC-CS as the
> good/common practices and as a tradition (you can also say SOP).
>
> Thanks
>
> Imran Ahmed Shah
>
> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
> To: Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; "Imran
> @IGFPak.org" <imran at igfpak.org>
> Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012, 12:37
> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Survey Results Out [IGC Consultations]
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Coordinators and All Members
>
>
> Thank you Imran for taking the time to give the list feedback and
> recommendations. They are much appreciated. Some comments are inline.
>
> With reference to the context; discussion and objections on designing and
> conducting the Survey for a common statement and Balloting for voting my
> recommendations are as follows:
>
> 1.    Prior to conduct any survey/ balloting, the Mailing List and Voting
> members should be intimated in-time and encouraged and asked to suggest that
> what items should be (and/or what should not be) inclusive in the survey
> and/or ballot.
>
> The Charter creates an exception for the waiver of the 48 hour rule, I have
> highlighted the relevant bits see below:
>
> "The IGC will work on the basis of consensus as much as is possible. When
> complete consensus cannot be reached the coordinators will be jointly
> empowered to call rough consensus. Rough consensus, for the purposes of the
> IGC, is defined as the point at which an overwhelming majority of the IGC
> appears to agree with a position with any dissenting minority view having
> been well discussed and respected. Rough consensus can only be called after
> a serious attempt has been made to accommodate minority points of view.
>
> When both coordinators agree that it is necessary to make a rough consensus
> call, the coordinator will announce the text of the consensus decision on
> the mailing list and allow for at least fourty eight (48) hours of final
> discussion. As discussed under the role of the appeals team, a rough
> consensus call can be appealed to the appeals team.
> Statements and representation at meetings.
>
> Normally, whenever there is sufficient time for a statement to be discussed
> and approved by the caucus as a whole, the decision procedure outlined above
> will be required. However, there will be occasions when members of the
> caucus will be attending meetings and will be presented with the opportunity
> to make statements that require a very quick response. In these cases, while
> it is still required that the caucus be informed of an upcoming statement
> and its contents as soon as possible the following rule may be applied when
> necessary:
> The coordinators will act as the official representatives of the caucus and
> will be responsible for approving any statement that cannot be discussed by
> the caucus within the time available.
> In the case of face-to-face meetings, they will also coordinate with the
> members of the IGC who are present. Any statement should reflect the assumed
> general thinking of the caucus, rather than just that of those members who
> are physically present at the meeting.
> If neither of the IGC coordinators can be physically present in face-to-face
> meetings, they will delegate coordination to another participant of such
> events. This delegation should, if possible, be made before the meeting and
> with the advice of the caucus.
> Statements and positions on behalf of the caucus will be prepared and
> coordinated by the coordinators, or their delegate as appropriate.
> Such statements will reflect the vision, objectives and basic principles of
> Civil Society in general, and the IGC in particular. Such statements will
> try to interpret, in good faith, the assumed general thinking of the caucus,
> based on past discussions and documents, and should not contradict the
> positions taken by the caucus in the past.
> Such statements will be sent to the IGC as soon as possible, preferably
> before being presented, but if that is impossible, then as soon after their
> presentation as possible.
>
>
> 2.    Survey should have some additional input fields to provide more
> opportunities to obtain inputs and ideas for every kind and every level of
> users while they are attempting to answer limited pre-written fields.
>
> I agree.
>
> 3.    During the survey/ balloting the user should be provided with the
> option to disagree with all of the contents, overall theme or the list of
> candidate to vote for. In case of disagreement, user may be provided fields
> (text box) to endorse the statement and reason of the conflict or
> disagreement.
>
> I cannot comment on the balloting but you can raise that with the Charter
> Review Working Group. However in relation to the Survey, absolutely. This
> was provided through the No Option and "Alternative Suggestion" Text option
> where people could give their comments and some people did use this.
>
> 4.   The conflicts, disagreements and/or submitting alternate ideas, inputs
> should also be considered while preparing the final report.
> If you read the report, we did not amend nor vary people's comments but
> placed them as they were answered in the fields. Diversity of ideas is
> important and fully agree. However, if one does not participate, one's views
> is not factored in. I have discovered that the IGC website has its own lime
> survey so we will be using this in the future.
>
>
>
> With reference to the modification in the IGC Charter,
>
>
> I will forward your comments on Charter modification to the Working Group
> that is looking into this. I will not comment on Charter modification until
> the WG has carried out its review and asks for public comments from the
> list. Suffice to say there is a working group that is reviewing the Charter.
> If you are not already a member and desire to be a part it, feel free to
> send Jeremy an email to join.
>
>
>
> Thanking you and Best Regards
> Imran Ahmed Shah
>
> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012, 4:18
> Subject: [governance] Re: Survey Results Out [IGC Consultations]
>
> Dear All,
>
> I would like to apologise to the list for the shortcomings of the Survey
> that was carried out and solely take full responsibility. In the future to
> ensure that these shortcomings are confined, I will use the
> http://www.igcaucus.org/limesurvey
>
> This will mean that each member will actually get the form sent to your
> account with your name on it. I also thank Avri and Chris for raising the
> shortcomings of the poll.
>
> Sala
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> We are pleased to announce the results of the Survey that was held recently.
> The Survey is attached. We thank all who participated.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Fatima Cambronero, Izumi Aizu and Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
>
>
>
>
>
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