AW: [governance] Announcing the First Arab IGF

Jean-Yves GATETE gate.one205 at yahoo.fr
Thu Feb 16 07:12:59 EST 2012


Hi all,
Congratulations to you for that great ARAB IGF initiative...I like the Mr. K. Wolfgang comments and  hope these should help any other IGF initiatives in any region,
Keep it up,regards,
Gatete
 
--- En date de : Jeu 16.2.12, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> a écrit :

De: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Objet: AW: [governance] Announcing the First Arab IGF
À: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "Qusai AlShatti" <qshatti at gmail.com>, "Hanane Boujemi" <hananeb at diplomacy.edu>
Cc: "Khaled KOUBAA" <khaled.koubaa at gmail.com>, governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "Imran Ahmed Shah" <ias_pk at yahoo.com>, salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Date: Jeudi 16 février 2012, 10h57

Hi
 
just a comment from an "Outsider". A regional IGF is - like the global or national IGFs - an evolving "process". It is learning by doing. Deficiencies and weaknesses in the 1st meeting can be corrected in the second one. We have now the 5th meeting in Europe and it moved from a small kick start meeting, supported by an intergovernmental organisation (COE) in 2008 into a remakable event as you will see it in June 2012 in Stockholm. Will say, be patient, learn from your mistakes, stick to the principles of openess, inclusion, transparency, bottom up and multistakholderism and stumble forward! The most important thing is to get started! And this is what you do. Congratulations. 
 
wolfgang

 
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Von: Qusai AlShatti [mailto:qshatti at gmail.com]
Gesendet: Mi 15.02.2012 16:20
An: Hanane Boujemi
Cc: Khaled KOUBAA; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Imran Ahmed Shah; salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Betreff: Re: [governance] Announcing the First Arab IGF


Dear Khaled and Hanan
Thank you Hanan for your kind comments and thank you khaled for raising your concerns. The fact that someone was not there in the meeting does not mean that the meeting was not set in the right way or did not comply with multistakeholder participation. Actually as I have mentioned in a previous input and echoed by some of my colleagues, the open consulation was inclusive, open and publicly anounced for participation. 
 
However what khaled have in mind is what we are planning for the Arab IGF. We do want the Arab youth who drived change in the Arab world and still doing it to be the main dirve of the AIGF. I believe AIGFshould be a dialouge space for them. It should allow us to exchange views with the youth as well as listen to them. 
 
We need also to bare in mind that the purpose of the open consultation that took place in Beirut was only to discuss the launch of the AIGF and I think all of us agree that it is important to us. The planning of AIGF and its program are our upcoming activities. It will start with a public announcement for the AIGF MAG membership and we look forward to all stakeholders to express their interest and participate in the AIGF MAG.
 
Let us look forward to make the upcoming AIGF a successful one by making it inclusive, transparent and open to all with emphasis on Arab youth and activists.
 
Regards,
 
Qusai AlShatti
 
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Hanane Boujemi <hananeb at diplomacy.edu> wrote:


    Kahled
    

    I get your point and I can confirm that civil society fingerprints are quite significant in setting the scene of the AIGF even though there were only few members present.

    Now that the process took off effectively with Kuwait taking the lead in organizing the first AIGF (and thanks to Qusai for his constant support) and ESCWA as well who really worked hard to get this process out of the door.  We have to join forces to make it a successful true open forum to all parties concerned. There will be open consultations to decide on the themes and workshops and that's where civil society from the region must be ready to raise the main issues at stake vis-a-vis IG. 

    There is no chance for the AIGF to be another episode in the oppression soap opera , power is now changing as you said and it's in the hand of the common man thanks to the Internet.
    

    Hanane


    On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Khaled KOUBAA <khaled.koubaa at gmail.com> wrote:
    

        Hanane,
        The AICTO is a Governmental-Organization and does not represent the civil society. 
        You know more than me that they are really very few of real civil society "free" and "independent" CSO in the Arab World.
        The private sector is as well governed in a big part by governments. So what we will have is a Arab IGF where what the governments will propose will be congratulated and accepted by the participants. 
        Let's be honest with ourselves, are we just continuing to do the same "cinema" than before ? 
        I think that a region like the Arab region where there is now huge geopolitical regional change, revolutions in some countries, power changing in some others, and all this with a big role being played by Internet. 
        Do you think an Arab IGF can be made like this ? We need a real participatory process.
        Where is the revolution leaders ? where is the Internet and Human rights activists ? are they involved ? will the be invited ? I don't think so.
        The same old pro-dictators continue to play the same game in our countries.
        
        Khaled
        
        Le 14/02/2012 21:18, Hanane Boujemi a écrit : 

            Kahlid&Tijani,
            
            There was a lady from Tunisia Ms. Roukia who represented Arab ICT ORG. The whole AIGF process was delayed for one year due to the Arab spring and ESCWA had to organize the last consultation meeting to establish the forum very quickly and it might explain the reason why other CS ORGs from the Arab region did not manage to participate. 
            
            I was very much involved since 2009 in this process. I participated in the consultaions that took place in 2010 and 2012 and I also constributed with other CS members from the Arab region to define the Arab IG roadmap published by UNESCWA and based on which the forum will be organized. I suppose that the emerging issues since the roadmap was drafted will be also taken into consideration to define the agenda of the first edition.
            
            Please do follow @IGFArab on Twitter and ArabIGF on Facebook for more updates about the whole process. It will be great if we get as many Arab CS members involved. It will be also great to do some outreach at the local level to define the IG process since the concept is still ambiguous to the masses in the region. I am afraid a lot of work needs to be done in this regard.
            
            Hanane Boujemi



            On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk at yahoo.com> wrote:
            


                Dear Quasi,
                Would you please share the next meeting schedule for AIGF activities?
                I hope that if there is some remote participation facility, some of our Group Members may join from Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Sharjah and Saudi Arabia.
                We can also ask UN-GAID to participate and support in AIGF formation activities.
                Thanks and Regards
                Imran Ahmed Shah
                ------------------------------On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 12:33 AM PKT Qusai AlShatti wrote:>Dear Salenieta:>Yes they were there.>>Qusai>>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <>salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:>>> I am just wondering whether the UAE ICT regulators were also there at the>> planning. If not, I am happy to facilitate the introduction? Let me know.>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Qusai AlShatti <qshatti at gmail.com> wrote:>>>> Dear Khaled:>> We wish that you were there with us in Beirut. The open consultation were>> conducted in an open transparent inclusive multistakeholder process were>> all participants from all multistakeholder groups actively engaged in an>> equal manner in discussing the Arab IGF and in drafting the outcomes of the>> open consultations. I don't have the list of final participants but all>> stakehlders groups from the Arab World were represented. Actually
 we>> requested the ESCWA and
                
                 LAS before the meeting to ensure a>> multistakeholders representation in the open consultations. A public>> announcement was made for this purpose. Furthemore when the open>> consultation was requested by the Arab ministers of communication, they>> requested that it should be conducted in a multistakeholder format.>>>> We look forward for your participation in the Arab IGF and its process.>>>> Regards,>>>> Qusai AlShatti>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:57 PM, khaled koubaa <khaled.koubaa at gmail.com>wrote:>>>>> Hi Qusai,>>> Could you please share with us the list of participants at that meeting>>> in Lebanon.>>> I have real concern with contnuous oversight of some gov-organizations>>> of the Arab IGF without real multistakeholders involvment.>>> Thank you,>>>>>> Khaled Koubaa>>>>>> Sent by an Android phone>>> Le 14 févr. 2012 11:41, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <>>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> a écrit :>>>>>> We
 warmly congratulate this
                
                 development and look forward to including>>> this in our Calendar.>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Qusai AlShatti <qshatti at gmail.com>wrote:>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues:>>>> I would like to take the opportunity to announce the establshment of>>>> the Arab IGF (AIGF). The first meeting of AIGF will be organized by Kuwait>>>> Information Technology Society which will be held in Kuwait on the first>>>> week of October 2012. I am attaching the AIGF announcement.>>>>>>>>>>>> *Announcement of*>>>>>>>> *The endorsement of the Arab Internet Governance Forum (AIGF) process*>>>>>>>> A Multistakeholder open consultation meeting to discuss the launch of>>>> the Arab Internet Governance Forum (AIGF) was held during the period of>>>> 31/1 - 1/2/2012 in Beirut, Lebanon. The open consultation was organized by>>>> the League of Arab States (LAS), the United Nation Economic and Social>>>> Commission of Western Asia (ESCWA) and the Council
 of Ministers of the>>>>
                
                 Republic of Lebanon. The open consultation was sponsored by Kuwait>>>> Information Technology Society and RIPE NCC and was attended by the IGF>>>> secretariat. More than 50 participants representing stakeholders from>>>> governments, private sector, civil society and regional organizations in>>>> the Arab World attended the open consultation and engaged actively in>>>> discussing the importance of an Internet Governance Forum for the Arab>>>> World.>>>>>>>> The open consultation was carried based on the request of the Arab>>>> Telecommunication and Information Technology Council of Ministers (ATICM)>>>> to seek feedback from various stakeholders on the need for an Arab IGF. The>>>> ministers requested it after receiving the outcome of an expert group>>>> meeting that was organized by the ESCWA in October 2010 which emphasized on>>>> the need to have a dialogue on Internet Governance with relevance to>>>> stakeholders in the
 Arab World.>>>>>>>> During
                
                 the open consultations, a strong consent emerged on the need>>>> and the importance for the Arab IGF especially with the turn of events in>>>> the region and the major role of the Internet in these events. A report>>>> recommending the establishment of AIGF was drafted by the participants and>>>> forwarded by the LAS Secretariat to the Executive Bureau of the Arab>>>> Telecommunication and Information Technology Council of Ministers (ATICM)>>>> on 2/2/2012, who welcomed the outcome, endorsed it and recommended the>>>> active participation of all stakeholders, including governments, in the>>>> Arab IGF process.>>>>>>>> The participants in the open consultations focused also on the goals>>>> of the AIGF and its structure. There was consent to adopt a structure>>>> similar to the IGF's current structure with a secretariat and a>>>> Multistakeholder Advisory Committee (MAG). *A proposal was made by>>>> Kuwait Information
 Technology Society to host the
                 First Arab IGF in Kuwait>>>> in early October 2012 and a proposal was made by the Republic of Egypt>>>> National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority to be the AIGF secretariat>>>> *. There was an agreement and consent on both proposals by the>>>> participants. It was agreed that a public announcement for the MAG>>>> membership will be made to give the opportunity for all stakeholders in the>>>> Arab world to express their interest to participate in it.>>>>>>>> The open consultation recommended that the AIGF should:>>>>>>>> ·         Focus on discussing public policies related to Internet>>>> Governance especially in the areas of access, stability, security and>>>> development.>>>>>>>> ·         Facilitate the exchange of information, best practices,>>>> knowledge and lessons learned by involving experts, technical community and>>>> Academics.>>>>>>>> ·         Gather different opinions and build
 consensus for unified>>>> Arab views on priorities
                
                 and on mechanisms to respond to Arab countries>>>> needs related to Internet governance issues.>>>>>>>> ·         Discuss emerging issues and present recommendations on it.>>>>>>>> ·         Build and develop capacity in Internet Governance as well>>>> as improve the participation of all stakeholders to benefit from all>>>> possible resources of knowledge and expertise.>>>>>>>> ·         Communicate globally the Arab positions and enhance the>>>> Arab role in formulating Internet Governance policies.>>>>>>>> ·         Outreach with the Internet Governance Forum and other>>>> regional IGFs with purpose of exchanging knowledge and expertise.>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:>>>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org>>>> To be removed from the list, visit:>>>> 
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