AW: [governance] Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US

Wed Feb 1 04:37:34 EST 2012

Hi Ronny,

we al know this since decades and the "crying fire in a crowded theater" argument is well known, reasonable and reflects the issues of freedon & responsibility (or rights & duties) in public media and individual private communications. So nothing is new. The problem is that one can settle such issues only on a case by case approach taking into account the concrete circumstances and this needs due process and a legal procedure (and transparency).

But as some people has said on this list, the more annoying fact is that Twitter posts are systematically watched by somebody else. Also here we know the difference between an open postcard (which can be read by any postman) and a closed letter (which is private and its content is protected by law). And Twitter is certainly a postcard and not a private letter. The problem here is that we have to be careful in critisizing similar practices by more restrictive regimes. The double standard approach will bring us back to the cold war constellation where the freedom fighters of the West were seen by the East as the "aggressors" while the peace fighters of the East were seen by the West as the "terrorists". 

So nothing is new and a clear answer is difficult. As said above it has to can be settled only by a case by case approach, taking into account the circumstances and based on clear criteria and standards which are laid down in Article 19 of the UN Universal Declaration on Human Rights. 

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Von: Koven Ronald [mailto:kovenronald at aol.com]
Gesendet: Di 31.01.2012 17:21
An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
Betreff: Re: [governance] Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US

Dear Wolfgang -- 

The problem is that the Homeland Security people can't seem to tell the difference between "crying fire in a crowded theater," which is not protected by the 1st Amdmt. and a genuinely funny or unfunny attempt to be humorous. Given 9/11, can they really be blamed for erring on the side of not laughing ? 

I really hate what we now must go thru to get on a plane, but I might not even be around to hate it if someone got on a plane with a bomb. So I'd rather just keep the hating to myself.

Bests, Rony

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Hi

is "joking" protected by the first amendement of the US constitution and part of 
Article 19 (right to freedom of exression) of the UN Human Rights Declaration?  

wolfgang

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Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Riaz K Tayob
Gesendet: Di 31.01.2012 16:23
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31 January 2012 Last updated at 12:51 GMT 

Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US

  Post-9/11 USA is highly cautious of any perceived threat, Abta said 

Holidaymakers have been warned to watch their words after two friends were 
refused entry to the US on security grounds after a tweet.

Before his trip, Leigh Van Bryan wrote that he was going to "destroy America".

He insisted he was referring to simply having a good time - but was sent home.

Trade association Abta told the BBC that the case highlighted that holidaymakers 
should never do anything to raise "concern or suspicion in any way".

The US Department for Homeland Security picked up Mr Bryan's messages ahead of 
his holiday in Los Angeles.

The 26-year-old bar manager wrote a message to a friend on the micro-blogging 
service, saying: "Free this week, for quick gossip/prep before I go and destroy 
America."

The Irish national told the Sun newspaper <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4095372/Twitter-news-US-bars-friends-over-Twitter-joke.html>  
that he and his friend Emily Bunting were apprehended on arrival at Los Angeles 
International Airport before being sent home.

"The Homeland Security agents were treating me like some kind of terrorist," Mr 
Bryan said.

"I kept saying they had got the wrong meaning from my tweet."

No joke 

Abta, which represents travel companies in the UK, said holidaymakers need to 
learn to be ultra-cautious when it comes to talking about forthcoming trips, 
particularly after 9/11.

Continue reading the main story <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16810312#story_continues_2>  

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	Airport security staff do not have a sense of humour when it comes to potential 
risk"

Abta 

"Posting statements in a public forum which could be construed as threatening - 
in this case saying they are going to "destroy" somewhere - will not be viewed 
sympathetically by US authorities," it told the BBC.

"In the past we have seen holidaymakers stopped at airport security for 'joking' 
that they have a bomb in their bag, thoroughly questioned and ending up missing 
their flights, demonstrating that airport security staff do not have a sense of 
humour when it comes to potential risk."

In another tweet, Mr Bryan made reference to comedy show Family Guy saying that 
he would be in LA in three weeks, annoying people "and diggin' Marilyn Monroe 
up".

Mr Bryan told the newspaper that he was questioned for five hours about his 
Twitter messages.

'Tweeter account' 

After the interview, Homeland Security's reported: "Mr Bryan confirmed that he 
had posted on his Tweeter website account that he was coming to the United 
States to dig up the grave of Marilyn Monroe. 

"Also on his tweeter account Mr Bryan posted he was coming to destroy America."

  Paul Chambers was fined after posting a message about Robin Hood Airport 

The US Customs and Border Protection agency said in a statement that it tried to 
maintain a balance between "securing our borders while facilitating the high 
volume of legitimate trade and travel that crosses our borders every day".

It added: "We strive to achieve that balance and show the world that the United 
States is a welcoming nation."

Mr Bryan is not the only person to suffer from a misjudged tweet. In January 
2010, Paul Chambers tweeted that he would blow snow-affected Robin Hood Airport 
in Doncaster "sky high!" if it was not reopened in time for him to see his 
girlfriend.

He was fined £385 plus £2,600 in costs - a sum which actor Stephen Fry offered 
to pay on Mr Chambers' behalf.

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