[governance] ISOC/USG WCIT Post Mortem

[parminder]

On Tuesday 25 December 2012 11:06 AM, Adam Peake wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>> Later in the speech, Kramer regrets that much could be done (at the WCIT)
>> about spread of broadband, but that this was not something members were
>> willing to pursue seriously.... Again, it surprised me, but this statement
>> is consistent with the above one on ETNO..... Of course, broadband is
>> Internet, right!
>>
> No.  In the same way as Article 9 is not Internet.

So, you are saying that broadband is not Internet. Whereby, do you agree 
that we could have had text in the new ITRs like ' universal access to 
broadband will be promoted through greater competition and......' ?

Also, are inter-connection regimes, and net neutrality, telecom issues 
or Internet issues? If they are telecom issues, could we have had them 
mentioned in the new ITRs.

(Wish we were having this conversation before dubai. We may just have 
saved the world from the bad effects of the eventual stand off.)

parminder

(PS; what article 9 are you speaking of? ITR's article 9 on special 
arrangements?)


>
> Adam
>
>> This is perplexing. Does the Ambassador say that US would have accepted to
>> write in the ITR's high-level principles that, say, ETNO kind of proposals
>> should never be encouraged (I mean, of course, in some form of non-specific
>> formal text) and that, say, more competition should be promoted to improve
>> universal access to broadband .
>>
>>  From his speech I clearly get this impression. And if true, that makes a
>> revealing point.
>>
>> Why did the civil society then had this single agenda - no internet in the
>> ITRs (as if the Internet was a kind of virus which, even if present in the
>> minutest quantity, spreads everywhere quickly) - without making the
>> distinction between the physical/ infrastructure player (with issues like
>> broadband access, net neutrality, inter-connection regimes) and higher,
>> application and content players.
>>
>> Why were we not able to present and articulate a positive agenda around
>> broadband access, net neutrality and the such, vis a vis the issues that
>> belong to physical/ infrastructure layer.
>>
>> Why were we, the CS, ended up looking like also motivated by the  secret
>> desire (though not difficult to divine) - as were the extreme libertarian
>> actors, to just see the ITU die, and with it, also all regulatory regimes
>> around the Internet at national levels. If we indeed want to see ITU simply
>> die, lets not play games and say so it clearly. No Internet in ITU's scope -
>> not even the physical/ infrastructure layer -  is simple a death warrant for
>> the ITU. Which may be fine, but then who, for instance addresses the issue
>> of ' global net neutrality'. ('Global net neutrality' was identified as a
>> key cross-border issues by a Council of Europe's expert committee, in which
>> incidentally, Wolfgang also participated.) Why do we think that these are
>> questions for someone else to answer, not for us, the 'global IG civil
>> society'.
>>
>> Why did we allow ourselves to so blatantly take sides in the intense
>> ideological struggle taking place around the remit and powers of the FCC in
>> the US, where the struggle for net neutrality is now all but lost. A game
>> which is going to soon visit our own national regulatory systems very soon.
>> Just watch out!
>>
>> That was at least as big a game that played out at the WCIT as the efforts
>> by some authoritarian countries to use ITU to carve out tightly controllable
>> 'national segments' of the Internet. But, such is the power of the
>> neoliberal social intermediary space - in which I include media as well as
>> the civil society - that only one story is coming out of the WCIT.
>>
>> parminder
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